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Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.

There are no moderate republicans – only extremists and cowards.

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When you’re in more danger from the IDF than from Russian shelling, that’s really bad.

I’ve spoken to my cat about this, but it doesn’t seem to do any good.

This chaos was totally avoidable.

The press swings at every pitch, we don’t have to.

Is it negotiation when the other party actually wants to shoot the hostage?

Insiders who complain to politico: please report to the white house office of shut the fuck up.

Disagreements are healthy; personal attacks are not.

This year has been the longest three days of putin’s life.

She burned that motherfucker down, and I am so here for it. Thank you, Caroline Kennedy.

Just because you believe it, that does not make it true.

But frankly mr. cole, I’ll be happier when you get back to telling us to go fuck ourselves.

No one could have predicted…

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The revolution will be supervised.

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Too often we hand the biggest microphones to the cynics and the critics who delight in declaring failure.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

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Now that Hilary Rosen is in police custody, many are saying that the war on women has become an unwinnable quagmire. That’s silly: life is different for people married to nine-figure wingers by the name of Willard than for the other 99.9%.

The insane Republican counterattack is just a sign that they are on the defensive in the larger scheme of things. I’ll keep talking about the war on women the same way I’ll keep talking about vouhcercare. If Politifact and Glenn Kessler make a big production of rating your claims as “false”, that means you’re winning.

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  3. 3.

    DougJ, Head of Infidelity

    @Denny:

    I have no idea how that happened. I’m on a new browser and maybe it’s auto completing in the title now?

  4. 4.

    kooks

    Who the fuck is Hilary Rosen? I didn’t realize she was a part of a coordinated effort to restrict the rights of women by saying mean things on cnn.

    The false equivalences, they astound.

  5. 5.

    General Stuck

    The insane Republican counterattack is just a sign that they are on the defensive in the larger scheme of things.

    The tail is waging the Hyena. The ones who are insane are driving the clown car, the others, what the hell else they gonna do but climb in with them, for the sake of serendipitous possibilities. It’s not like they have any new ideas that haven’t already failed.

    The rest of us just got to navigate best we can, and every now and then the wingnuts win a skirmish of insignificance, then go right back at all the domestic culture wars they have started. class, gender, poor, immigrants, etc ect…./ They can’t help themselves at this point, and Hilary Rosen using a poor choice of words to describe the truth, will not change the state of play other than a news cycle, maybe two.

    It will be a contest, of how much rope the wingnuts outside the 27 percenters, are willing to give the true believers and their white supremacy, male supremacy , wealth supremacy ways. Guess we’ll find out in Nov.

  6. 6.

    beltane

    Maybe we should do as the wingnuts do and flap around gnashing our terrible teeth and rolling our terrible eyes every time Bobo says something stupid on NPR.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    I don’t know. I have a feeling this is one of those game changing moments that can really affect the election. I used to be pretty confident, but now I’m concerned that Romney just may edge out Hilary Rosen in some key states this November.

  10. 10.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Has any national outlet given more than cursory coverage of Scott Walker (Romney’s “hero”) overturning WI’s version of the Lily Ledbetter Act? How ’bout Pete Hoekstra (yeah, that guy) saying the equal pay is “a nuisance“? And did Ann Romney really talk to the NRA about being a “mom”?

  14. 14.

    patrick II

    Raising children for many working people is a different world than the one Ms. Romney lives in. If a single woman waitress with two kids earning $20,000 a year gets a call from school saying one of her kids is sick and needs to go home, can she leave work? Can she afford to lose the wages? Can she afford the doctor bill? Does she have medical insurance if he turns more seriously ill? (Mr. Romney would hope not).

    I might add that I think this is an attempt to inoculate Mitt by proxy from attacks on his elitism and that’s why the right wing media has decided to make such a big deal about this. They are, as usual, arguing for effect, not worrying about the illogic of their position.

  17. 17.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    They can try and pivot all they want but they are not going to be able to undo everything they have done since 2011 when all of these Repub legislatures took office and started stripping women of their rights faster than a dictator with a mission. Excuse the expression but elephants forget stuff faster than women do, ask any husband.

  20. 20.

    Suffern ACE

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Yep cause that’s what that Hillary person was up to. She was trying to pass a law that made stay at home moms feel unappreciated so she’s as dangerous as anything that state legislatures are actually doing.

  21. 21.

    beltane

    @DougJ, Head of Infidelity: No, but we listen to it for some strange masochistic reason. Instead of critiquing Brooks’s proto-fascist blathering of the day, we should run around screaming that he personally insulted us, our grandmothers, our pet hamsters and the sacred American soil they have tread upon.

  22. 22.

    handy

    I’m a long time Democrat voter and liberal, but I’m very concerned about party leader Hillary Rosen’s comments and the tone of the Democrat war on mothers so this November I feel I have no choice but to vote Republican. The political tone is just too dangerous and radical.

  23. 23.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik

    Like I said earlier, I’m not about to go in assuming that because it’s retarded on its face that it’s going to fade as an issue, or that Politifact’s retarded contrarianism means it’s good for us and that the issue is going to die on the vine because of common sense. I’m not about to panic, mind, but I’ve seen this road before. Keep an eye out and don’t let the lies sink in, because otherwise, they stay sunk in. Don’t assume it’s in the bag because the GOP has an uncannily effective way of making the public believe patently false shit all the time.

    Which segues to my OT note that….(sigh)…About 50 NASA scientists write a letter condeming what they feel is the organizations full on acceptance of ‘climate alarmism’. Not a climatologist amongst them. Met with instant credulity, because apparently climate experts are the stupidest motherfuckers on the planet who should never ever ever be believed, but anyone doubting climate change is instantly a super authority that can never be doubted.

    Sometimes, lies win. Hell, almost all the fucking time, lies win.

  24. 24.

    dmsilev

    A week ago, essentially nobody knew who Hillary Rosen was and the Republicans were passing or trying to pass a whole slew of anti-woman legislation (and, more generally, anti-sane-people legislation). A week from now, nobody will remember who Hillary Rosen is, and the Republicans will still be trying to pass a whole new slew of anti-woman legislation.

    But the Republicans “won the news cycle”, and as President McCain can tell us, that’s the important thing.

  25. 25.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    @patrick II:

    Back when I had co-workers, our receptionist came to me in tears. She had just got a call from the school saying that her daughter had a fever and had to be picked up immediately. She disputed the fever story, saying that her daughter had been fine when she was dropped off that morning, but the school was insistent. She had only been working for me for a couple of weeks and she was absolutely terrified that she was going to lose her job because of having to go home. Her husband was in Iraq, and there was no way in hell I was going to hold it against her. I am a big softy of course and a bleeding heart liberal. Can’t say what would have happened had I been a miserable RWNJ given the same situation however.

  26. 26.

    SectarianSofa

    I was going to say something snarky, but then half-flipped it and was going to say something vaguely pro-DougJ, and then it was obviously incoherent, so I deleted it.
    Anyway, all you keep doing what you’re doing. I approve (especially now that we’ve de-typoed this far).

  30. 30.

    SectarianSofa

    @Brian R.:

    Yeah, I don’t understand why anyone is backing off that message. Fuckin’ Democrats. “‘War on Women’? It’s not nuanced enough! You know, strictly speaking, blahblahblahblah….”

  34. 34.

    R Johnston

    If Politifact and Glenn Kessler make a big production of rating your claims as “false”, that means you’re winning.

    And I always figured it meant they were cranky because the price of their weed habit had grown beyond what they could afford on the allowances their parents give them.

    Actually, I still figure that.

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    I told Veritas that Mitt would put his foot in his mouth again sometime this weekend, and then everyone would forget about not-from-the-Obama-campaign Hilary Rosen’s not-really-a-gaffe. That rich Mormon fool had better not fail me.

  36. 36.

    David Koch

    It was a big mistake for Obama to appoint Hilary Rosen as Secretary of State.

    Moreover, why is Hollywood liberal Hillary Swank attacking apple pie?

  37. 37.

    Suffern ACE

    @dmsilev: Yeah. The news cycle on this one will be short. I don’t think we will see the three week countertop inspection and stories about the REAL Hilary Rosen like we did with outrageous tales of oversexed Georgetown co eds. First she’s enough of an insider to know shit about the people complaining. Also they protest too much if they attack her career and imply that it’s not real work. She does what they do for a living, and we can’t have it out there that that work isn’t actually of vital importance to anyone but the guys who purchase those souls.

  39. 39.

    beltane

    @Amir Khalid: Well, there is that tiny, insignificant detail about his 2011 tax returns, which will not be filed on time, but this is of minor importance compared to any perceived slights on his wife, a woman who has lived the life of a 21st century equivalent of a Hapsburg princess.

  41. 41.

    jl

    @Brian R.: I agree. I think reason is that average person’s, or women’s, experience with access to health care is like average person’s experience with prices, jobs and economy: it is very difficult to BS people. They know what is really going on, and the politicians have to guess as best they can about what is going on from crummy data and weight of anecdotes.

    So, trying to BS people in those areas is a very dangerous game. The GOP is trying to BS people on multiple fronts where the average person knows what is happening far better than the coddled suits in national politics and media.

    Lots of women of child bearing age (Edit: and out of child bearing age, too) know from their own experience what is happening on state and local level wrt to access to care. And lots of people know lots of people who know from their own direct experience.

    So, keep BSing away GOP, and the hacks can re-lie on the old man’s money all they want. It’s Good news for Democrats in the election, I think.

  42. 42.

    dr. bloor

    @dmsilev:

    This, a thousand times. We routinely have our heads so far up the butt of the internets and are so hard at work playing inside baseball that we forget this will slide right off the surfaces of 99.999% of the brains in the US, if it gets that far in the first place.

  43. 43.

    Suffern ACE

    @Amir Khalid: I was wondering if the hyper nature of the response isn’t due to her first name until good old Tommy Donohew bought up her lesbianism. Although a lot of right wingers are confused by Hilary Clinton’s apparent heterosexuality and have chosen to ignore it for the past 20 years. It’s been a confusing week

  45. 45.

    Quincy

    Great post title. But the song uses the b-word so your war on women is way worse than the Republican’s. Or at least it’s the same. We’ll get the definitive answer from George, Peggy and Doug Schoen after the break.

  47. 47.

    jl

    @dr. bloor: I agree. dmsileve zeroed in on how it will work, and why all the straining the GOP and Romney do to stir up a media fuss is like digging a hole in water, it will gone so fast most people will know nothing about it, and the rest will forget or dismiss it long before the election.

    The signs of possible weakening of pace of recovery are far more important issues, both for the election and for welfare of country, but got much less attention, for example.

  48. 48.

    muddy

    A former friend who went full metal wingnut (called himself a libertarian, heh indeed) would always come up to the point in the argument where he fell back on, “Shut up muddy”. I would say, Thank you for conceding. It got to the point where he would be saying some wrong-ass bullshit to someone and I would just turn my head and before I could open my mouth he’d say, “Shut up, muddy”. I said then that his argument was pretty weak when he conceded without even hearing the objection. It was sweet. Every. Single. Time. I. Won. I’d say, you can look it up, and he’d say he was too lazy, as though that was a meaningful retort.

    But then it grew tiresome, and I don’t hang around with them anymore. I presume his propaganda goes unchallenged now, but wev.

  49. 49.

    Amir Khalid

    @Suffern ACE:
    I remember the whispers about Hillary Clinton being a lesbian. I hear that the same whispers were going around re Eleanor Roosevelt. Was it because Eleanor didn’t change her last name when she got married?

  51. 51.

    Suffern ACE

    @Amir Khalid: She offered to change it to “Rosenthal” before the wedding, just so they could show how traditional the marriage was, but the press conveniently ignored it and that item has been lost to history until now.

  52. 52.

    maya

    I don’t know, Ann Romney could be the catalyst to attract a large female demographic of Lagonda Moms.

  53. 53.

    David Koch

    @beltane:

    Come to think of it, did George W. Bush ever work a day in his life?

    I can’t believe you would attack fatherhood that way. That’s really below the belt. Of course he worked, he was the father of twins!

  54. 54.

    Narcissus

    Have to be something mighty powerful to overcome the biological urges of motherhood and wifehood to make a woman get an education and a career and carry on such as a man should. Has to be lesbianism.

  56. 56.

    R Johnston

    @beltane: Come to think of it, did George W. Bush ever work a day in his life?

    In the useful employment sense of the word “work”, no.

    In the useful tool sense of the word, yes.

    In the physics sense of the word, infrequently and I’d rather not ponder those infrequent exceptions.

  57. 57.

    Hill Dweller

    A dozen Secret Service agents accompanying the President in Columbia were relieved of their duties and sent home. Apparently, there are accusations of misconduct.

  58. 58.

    Cromagnon

    Democrats are such flaming pussies… Politico gets all bent out of shape cause a mega-rich country-club wife, who ‘works so hard’ having the hired help raise her kids, gets ‘dissed’ and the Dems drop down on their knees apologizing nine ways to heaven.Pathetic… So basically the choice we have is between insane asshole republicans, or a bunch of limp-dick wimp-ass democrats…. Awesome!

  59. 59.

    Mike in NC

    @beltane:

    Come to think of it, did George W. Bush ever work a day in his life?

    Some people would argue that being an alcoholic coke-head is hard work.

  62. 62.

    beltane

    OK, OK I’ll leave George W. Bush alone. But it’s awfully hard to make the case that the world wouldn’t be a better place if he had just spent his entire adult life doing nothing but sitting on the couch, drinking beer and watching ESPN. I think he also would have preferred that life.

  63. 63.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    @beltane:

    Come to think of it, did George W. Bush ever work a day in his life?

    Well, if you count all the times he woke up in the White House the middle of the night, heard strange thumping and screeching noises coming from the basement, and mustered up the courage to go down there (which you never do in the horror movies, if you have any brains at all) just so he could flip on the light switch and see that it was just Dick Cheney in his gimp outfit drooling and fondling the nuclear football with the codes in it, yet again. And then having to say “No Dick, gimme! Let go DAMMMIT!” and struggle to wrestle it away without causing the sweaty bastard to have another heart attack, because you know how he is when he gets all excited and aroused like that.
    __
    I mean it may not sound like an honest day’s work to you, but I for one am grateful for that, no mattter what you call it.

  67. 67.

    oldmtnbkr

    @48 Eleanor and FDR were cousins; Eleanor was from TR’s branch of the clan.

    On a near-brush-with-greatness note, my dear departed Dad got to shake hands with FDR. Yep, I’m proud of that! But more proud of his being a life-long liberal.

  71. 71.

    eemom

    Come to think of it, did George W. Bush ever work a day in his life?

    “Is it true what they say, that Papa never worked a day in his life?”

    Bushie was a rolling stone…..

  74. 74.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    @Mike in NC:

    Come to think of it, did George W. Bush ever work a day in his life?

    He worked pretty hard to get out of his TANG obligation.

  75. 75.

    Original Lee

    I’m sure at least half of the sound and the fury over Rosen’s comments are Wurlitzer-produced. Although Rosen does have a history of saying things with less-than-elegant phrasing, her tone of voice and attitude when viewing just the little clip of that one sentence were kinda snotty and condescending-sounding. If you saw the whole answer, the overall attitude was different, just as reading the one sentence gave a totally different impression that the whole answer. So I think that’s part of it.

    But it occurred to me that the other part of it could be that most of the 27-percenters who are women didn’t actually “choose” to stay home with the kids, in the sense that many liberals and media talking heads mean. They got married right out of high school or college, because that’s what their families and their churches expected of them, and then they stayed home with the kids, because that was expected of them, and many of them probably have no problems with taking care of the home front while their husbands go off to work. They consider that they are doing their duty, so at least some of the fury, IMO, is because they never really felt that they had options, and so their whole lives are so tied up in being SAHMs that any criticism of a SAHM gets right up their noses.

    A quick anecdote: A few years back, before the recession, I took the kids to their swimming lesson and sat in the bleachers with the other parents (almost all women, and I assume the mothers of the children in the pool) while I worked on my laptop on a paper I was getting ready to send off for publication, with a stack of galley proofs next to me. Since it was a make-up lesson for my kids, we weren’t on our regular schedule and I knew none of the other parents. After one look at me with my obvious work, the others huddled together and moaned about how long it would be before they could return to the workforce and whether or not it would be worthwhile to start taking refresher coursework as soon as the youngest was in middle school. It gradually dawned on me that every single one of these women had quit her job when she gave birth to her first child and was not going back to work until her youngest child was twelve years old, that they did this because it was expected of them in their social circle and/or by their husbands, and that they resented it tremendously. If the only thing they knew about was the short version of Rosen’s remarks, they would have been pissed as hell, I think.

    And as was pointed out above, some of the SAHMs didn’t exactly have a choice about staying at home because the cost of childcare was too high, so they are angry because Rosen came off in the short clip as being contemptuous of SAHMs.

    It’s enormously frustrating to me that Wurlitzer is functioning so well on this, but perhaps it’s been dialed up to 11 to avoid having people look too closely at Romney’s tax returns (for whatever year).

  76. 76.

    ARoomWithAMoose

    Between this and the “real mitt will unzip” pseudo gaff, I think the handlers have decided they can’t make Mitt appear human, so Ann is being trotted out to take some hits and maybe evoke some sympathy. At some point they’ll throw some shills out in the crowd to heckle her.

  78. 78.

    FlipYrWhig

    So, the next time Erick Erickson says something stupid, do we get to spend 2 solid days dissecting its massive impact on the Republican message and watching the press demand answers from Mitt Romney?

  80. 80.

    Scamp Dog

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik: Scientists, my ass. I read through the list of job titles, and it looks like nearly everybody on the list was in the Shuttle program, doing engineering work. (No disrespect to the profession as a whole intended, as I’m an engineer myself, although disrespect to this particular group is DEFINITELY intended).

    I’d say their political prejudices have overridden their technical smarts, and would bet dollars to donuts that they’re Republicans who are just sure that Democrats are bad for NASA, even though the Rs are the ones who cut taxes, run up the deficit, and sadly claim that there just isn’t any money to spare for the space program. They’re angry that Obama canceled the Orion program, but have totally forgotten that he gave NASA $6 billion in stimulus funds. I suspect that they’re hoping that if they can prevent climate scientists from pissing off their GOP pals, NASA will get more money, or they’ll at least get to grab funding away from the climate folks.

    The fact that at the beginning of the W administration, when we were looking at “surpluses as far as the eye can see”, the Republicans ignored NASA and focused first on tax cutting, and then fighting expensive wars on the national credit card is not worth remembering, apparently.

  82. 82.

    FlipYrWhig

    @Original Lee: You have to work pretty hard to find in Rosen’s words anything about stay at home moms. It was obviously ripping into Romney as out of touch with American women _because she’s so rich_. If all you had to go on was the tape, you’d hear condescension from Rosen… about the idea that Ann Romney knows what women are thinking. Then you have to be told that Romney didn’t work outside the home. It’s extremely indirect and roundabout without a shitload of guidance and coaching about what to be offended by.

  83. 83.

    Nutella

    @beltane:

    Well, there is that tiny, insignificant detail about his 2011 tax returns, which will not be filed on time, but this is of minor importance compared to any perceived slights on his wife, a woman who has lived the life of a 21st century equivalent of a Hapsburg princess.

    Wait, what? The guy with hundreds of millions of dollars, who could hire thousands of accountants, is such a disorganized idiot and incompetent administrator that he can’t file his effing taxes on time?

    Just the kind of super-competent businessman we need as president!

  84. 84.

    Thymezone

    @Rome Again:

    At the Democratic National Convention, 1960. I also rubbed shoulders at that venue with Lloyd and Jeff Bridges. My dad was there as support staff to the convention, a precinct committeeman who got the gig from friends in the party over here in AZ. I ran into Eleanor, literally, in the concourse area of the Sports Arena. I immediately recognized her and said, brilliantly, “You’re Eleanor Roosevelt!” And she said, not missing a step, walking rapidly down the concourse … “Yes I am!” And disappeared into a passageway. She was in her Seventies and I was a pretty fast teenager, and I couldn’t keep up with her.

    Other political notables I have met include Eugene McCarthy, Sam Goddard (AZ Governor), Ralph Nader. In my family you took part in all the political activities or you didn’t eat. Voter registration, yard sign placements, canvassing, mailroom duty, running the mimeograph machine, the postage meter .. whatever needed to be done.

  85. 85.

    Nutella

    @Original Lee:

    most of the 27-percenters who are women didn’t actually “choose” to stay home with the kids, in the sense that many liberals and media talking heads mean. They got married right out of high school or college, because that’s what their families and their churches expected of them, and then they stayed home with the kids, because that was expected of them

    This undoubtedly applies to Ann Romney, too. People keep talking about her having the choice to be a stay-at-home mother because the family had plenty of money but I would be surprised if she really had any other choices other than the traditional Mormon one of staying home with the kids.

    (Edited for clarity)

  90. 90.

    Rome Again

    I have to say, I was approached about the Ann Romney thing by a co-worker this morning. I try not to get involved with political discussions with her because I know she’s an unreasonable Republican who wears anti-Obama t-shirts and I’m not looking to start a political war and create a problem for my manager. Still, the thought is not lost on me that this is a woman working two jobs, and she’s pissed because a woman with five houses was supposedly “a stay-at-home-mom” was said to have never worked.

    Voting against their own interests is right.

  91. 91.

    Nicole

    @rda909:

    Oh great, now I got “Maneater” in my head. Thanks a lot…

    I believe that song is actually about the McCain-Palin relationship.

  92. 92.

    Thymezone

    @David Koch:

    We’re sorry that you don’t have a google machine:

    Rosen was with the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) from 1987 to 2003 and served first as President and then Chair and CEO from 1998 to 2003.[2] She presided over the RIAA during the period of when the rise of the Internet notably conflicted with the established Recording Industry interests. She was paid to lobby the US Legislature and was a regular presence on behalf of the her employers in the Recording Industry at a time against proponents of file-sharing and new Internet technologies. During her tenure the RIAA filed lawsuits against early peer-to-peer file-sharing communities including Napster, Audiogalaxy and Grokster. The organization lobbied the US Congress to pass controversial legislation supporting Recording Industry interests, such as the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, the Record Rental Act, and numerous trade treaties (see Societal views on intellectual property). Despite the RIAA’s aggressive tactics, online file-swapping has continued to grow. Industry critics, including those within the Association, have begun to question the effectiveness of the campaign. Indeed, many believe that the RIAA’s activities alienated consumers and some popular artists from the very music industry the RIAA is supposed to protect. Rosen has expressed her agreement with this assertion.

    The RIAA, under Rosen, attempted to lobby for strict digital copyright protection, including copy protected CDs and DRM-enabled media formats for personal computers. Copy-protected CDs were widely rejected by consumers for a variety of technological and political issues. Rosen’s RIAA advanced a legal and public relations campaign to limit the digital file swapping of copyrighted music.
    Post-RIAA career

    Rosen resigned as head of the RIAA at the end of 2003, in order to spend more time with her partner, Elizabeth Birch, and the the twins they adopted in 1999 (a boy and a girl). Birch was then the executive director of the Human Rights Campaign, an organization devoted to LGBT rights.[3]

    Rosen is herself a lesbian[4] and briefly served as interim director for the LGBT organization Human Rights Campaign in 2004.[5] Her partner Elizabeth Birch had been the executive director of HRC for eight years prior. Rosen and Birch separated in 2006.

    In 2006, Rosen founded Berman Rosen Global Strategies, a short-lived consulting firm, with Jason Berman, Chairman of the International Recording Industry Association. In 2007, she launched OurChart.com, a site targeted to lesbians and fans of the television series The L Word.[6] This site subsequently merged with ShowTime.com.[7] She began working for the Brunswick Group, a London-based PR firm, in 2008.[8]

    Rosen began a television commentator career first with CNBC and then with MSNBC. She signed with CNN in early 2008. She was formerly Washington Editor at Large for The Huffington Post and was the site’s political director during the 2008 election.

    Rosen left the Brunswick Group to join the political communications firm, SKDKnickerbocker in 2010.[9]

  93. 93.

    David Koch

    @Thymezone: Still waiting. What makes her a “professional” regarding political messaging? Has she ever working on a campaign? A lobbyist who spreads around money to buy votes in congress doesn’t make one a political communication expert. Nor does hosting georgetown cocktail parties.

  94. 94.

    Jewish Steel

    She signed with CNN in early 2008.

    She got jobbed. Had to deliver 6 more albums on the back end of that deal. That’s why she put out all those double-live sides. Really watered down her catalog; to the point where she’s on a German folk label now.

    S’what happens when you work for the suits.

  97. 97.

    eemom

    @Rome Again:

    Still, the thought is not lost on me that this is a woman working two jobs, and she’s pissed because a woman with five houses was supposedly “a stay-at-home-mom” was said to have never worked.

    This, you see. This, this, this. THIS is what I ultimately can never forgive them for — for being too stupid even to realize that they ARE being fucked in the ass, much less possessing the reptilian good sense to turn their head enough to see by WHO.

    I mean there is a point at which stupidity should be CRIMINALIZED.

  98. 98.

    Thymezone

    @eemom:

    Yes, agreed, but if we criminalize stupidity, 3/4 of the commentariat here is going to be in prison, probably in solitary confinement, strapped to the crazy chairs and breathing through a pig whistle stuck in their teeth.

    I say, why criminalize abject assholish stupidity? This only encourages the stupid to lie about their condition and to try to cover it up. Instead, just give them as much food as they will eat in one sitting, per day, and a bowl of water, and some shredded newspaper, and let them be. It’s more humane.

    If their noses are warm and dry, they may be ill, so a veterinarian should be consulted.

  99. 99.

    Thymezone

    I am so sorry, I said “pig whistle” when I meant “airway dam.”

    I’m not a real EMT, but I did play one once in a weird deal that happened in Las Vegas.

  100. 100.

    Chris

    @eemom:

    I don’t give a damn if they fuck themselves over and are too stupid to realize it. Stupid is as stupid does. What I can’t forgive them for is their obsessive willingness to drag the rest of us down with them. Even worse is that they’re not doing this by accident – for many of them, dragging the rest of us down with them is what it’s all about in the first place.

    If their endless attempts to fuck over their fellow man result in self-inflicted wounds to them to, they deserve every bit of it.

  105. 105.

    Mike D.

    Of course this was a passing thing. But the denials that Rosen’s comments and ones like them are both dumb and harmful to the effort on the margin, and in particular the protests that the problem is really just that the meanie Republicans twist our words, and that to be clear on our side about what a fuckup looks like in the context of this cycle and thus to try to learn how to best avoid them is to “play within right-wing frames” – really f*ckin’ burn me. What self-reassuring tripe. Man the f*ck up and learn from it when your side f*cks up. Luckily, this will pass, but lots of these would be a problem. And this undeniably took the sharp edge off of the winning War on Women rhetoric for a moment at least. That has nothing to do with the fact that the fundamentals will of course continue to reinforce repulsion to GOP policies. That’s irrelevant. This still blunts the effectiveness of the tactical attack in the short term.

    So get f*ckin real. Denial is pathetic.

  106. 106.

    Thymezone

    @Mike D.:

    That is either the best spoof ever written here, or the most hilarious crock of bullshit ever sincerely written here. Either way, it’s gold. Gold.

    “Blunts the effectiveness of the tactical attack.” Oh my fucking god, that is gold.

  107. 107.

    xian

    @beltane: yeah, what is this about him habitually filing for an extension? doesn’t he have an army of tax attorneys and accountants squeezing each nickel for him? why so late?

  108. 108.

    grandpa john

    Funny as hell watching the “ Nattering nabobs of negativity
    ”
    Trying to be the fount of all knowledge in declaring the winner in a War in which they have no participation and no voice.
    The winner of this war will be determined in Nov and will be determined by women at the ballot box

  110. 110.

    Another Halocene Human

    @The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik: About 50 NASA scientists write a letter condeming what they feel is the organizations full on acceptance of ‘climate alarmism’.

    Instant credulity is right. So 50 random NASA scientists, which may include people with BA’s only, depending on what kind of work they do, or people with engineering degrees, who usually use their P.E. as a penis substitute but are all too happy to pretend to be scientists today (the work they do is sciency, see?) at an organization famed for being crawling with RWNJs, whine about the work of scientists in a completely different branch of physical sciences, one which requires way more than a BA to practice, let alone understand (trust me on that one), work that has been ongoing for decades, validated and extended, building into a consensus that even the former skeptics (in the field, not the paid shills) have signed onto.

    In other news, chiropractors challenge oncologists on cancer treatment.

  111. 111.

    Another Halocene Human

    @dmsilev: But the Republicans “won the news cycle”, and as President McCain can tell us, that’s the important thing.

    Sometimes I need a reminder that not everyone gets their news from Slashdot. I’ve had conniptions every time that shameless RIAA shill landed upwards in another job. Apparently, crime DOES pay, you just have to know how to go about it. Get the laws passed in your favor first, then party like it’s 1399.

    The way she was called an Obama campaign adviser and so on tells me that the GOP actually had this media pushback planned in advance and was waiting for the misstep. Unfortunately, too few knew who Rosen was, allowing the charge to stick.

    The adoption counter-gaffe just goes to show that her tenure at HRC was worth something. The professional gay-baiters knew exactly who she was.

    Also, anyone noticed that now that Catholic Charities is losing its big state adoption contracts that the RCC has always supported adoption has always opposed adoption.

  112. 112.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Can’t say what would have happened had I been a miserable RWNJ given the same situation however.

    Honest to Bob I have seen RWNJ’s help employees out in those sorts of circumstances. However, they all live in fear that stricter (=fairer) labor laws will cause them to end up with The Great Grifter Employee, that semi-mythical figure who uses ADA, Worker’s Comp, EEOC, etc to grift off a hapless employer for fun and profit and can never, ever be fired.

    Most problems with bad employees could be prevented by just googling their name and actually calling their damn references BEFORE you hire them. However, bosses be lazy.

  113. 113.

    Another Halocene Human

    @SectarianSofa: Yeah, I don’t understand why anyone is backing off that message. Fuckin’ Democrats. “’War on Women’? It’s not nuanced enough! You know, strictly speaking, blahblahblahblah….”

    It’s because they listen to NPR (=Nice Polite Republicans) and, having been trained in school to consider both sides, think they should consider both sides.

    People who have actually been poor know that these GOP measures ARE war on them and their families.

    And this, ladies and germs, is how the highly educated, comfortable Democratic elite loses the working class.

    “There’s no real difference between parties” unless you are a working class woman, gay, black, legal child of illegal immigrants, a government employee, disabled, on Medicaid, or live near exploitable minerals or fossil fuels.

  114. 114.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Scamp Dog: Oh, but W promised we would be going to Mars! I guess if you’re a tea partyin’ engineer, pie in the sky beats pie on your plate. I mean, come on, Sara Lee* is BORING. PIE IN THE SKY! PIE IN THE SKY!

    *unmanned probes which have done the best real science in NASA’s history

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