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Good old lunatic Bill Donohue, always good for a laugh:

This episode of “The Daily Show” was done to protest Fox’s alleged indifference to the “war on women,” and in doing so Stewart not only made a vulgar attack on Christians, he objectified women.

We are asking Stewart to apologize. If he does not, we will mobilize Protestants, Jews, Mormons and Muslims to join us in a boycott of his sponsors. Moreover, we will not stop with a boycott; there are other things that can be done to register our outrage. We are prepared to spend the money it takes to make this a nationwide issue, and we are prepared to stay the course. Tomorrow we will have something definitive to say, one way or the other.

They are going to boycott Jon Stewart because he said “vagina manger.”

Seriously.

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  2. 2.

    butler

    We are prepared to spend the money it takes to make this a nationwide issue

    Spend it, Bill! Spend every last penny you have!

  3. 3.

    the Conster (f/k/a Cat Lady)

    The Venn diagram of people who watch Stewart and the set of people who listen to Donohue = O O

  5. 5.

    trollhattan

    Without Rih to channel his idiocy I guess it’s back to doing it his ownself.

    My rhetorical question for Wednesday: Do they not understand what handing a gift to Stewart and his writers comprises? Because they just did.

  9. 9.

    tones

    @the Conster:
    exactly right!

    I’m pretty sure his point was that if it isn’t the ten commandments or a nativity scene they don’t care, as well as the fact that they take their “war on Christmas” as reality, but not their obvious war on women.

  10. 10.

    Cris (without an H)

    To the disingenuous outrage seekers, these statements are identical:

    “Women are second-class citizens.”
    “Republicans believe women are second-class citizens.”

    Everybody — and I mean everybody — knows the difference between use and mention, even if they’re not familiar with the terms. But professional crybabies like Bill Donahue and Rush Limbaugh will happily pretend they can’t tell the difference if it gives them a chance to throw a tantrum.

  11. 11.

    jibeaux

    I’m going to go out on a limb and say that sponsors of TDS are probably a slightly hardier lot than he and his army of mobilized infidels think.

    And what does “Tomorrow we will have something definitive to say, one way or the other” mean? Are they going to release a press release that just says “yes” or “no”?

  14. 14.

    BGinCHI

    Tomorrow we will have something definitive to say, one way or the other.

    Shorter Donohog: We will either threaten or piss our pants. Tune in tomorrow for our cowardice.

  18. 18.

    Mike E

    Not so much a nativity, but the entire governmental apparatus should fit in there nicely

  19. 19.

    Rome Again

    Am I hearing this correctly? Donohue is threatening to remove a viewership that never even existed in the first place? REALLY?

  21. 21.

    jl

    My objection to the Daily Show skit was that, technically, I think it should have been called a ‘vagina creche’, not a ‘vagina manger’.

    Followed the link, but don’t see that Donohue talked about that.

    Why? Because he is a coward, that’s why. IMHO.

    Edit: though, some comments above suggest that ‘nativity scene’ would also be appropriate, for women who have given birth.

    Rectification of names, people, the revolution starts there!

  23. 23.

    Gex

    Ah. I was properly prepped for this minute of outrage having just watched Hitchens eviscerate a guy on a debate about the existence of God.

    Favorite paraphrase: Because if there isn’t really a God, what we are really talking about is YOUR power over ME. And you wonder why I’m not too keen…

  25. 25.

    Gex

    @butler: They make money with their wars on (gays/women). Why do you think they wage them? The anti-gay movement of the last decade has helped keep churches afloat and made a lot of people wealthy. The more he stirs up this outrage the more he will spend, but he won’t spend all of the money that is donated.

  26. 26.

    Shinobi

    I like how the objectification of women is secondary to the VULGAR ATTACK ON CHRISTIANS OMG.

    I wonder if he’s actually had his sense of humor removed? or if it just atrophied from lack of use?

  27. 27.

    jibeaux

    @trollhattan: They could just go up to a microphone with a Magic Eight ball. If it gives you one of those bullshit nonanswers, just shake it again until it cooperates, dammit.

  28. 28.

    jl

    Johnny Bones, that cheap two bit hood from Toledo who runs the House, takes the Bishops letter on the GOP budget very seriously and is going to hold hearings to try to get the message out, and solve the problem, just like for women’s nativity scene health.

    Oh, wait, no, TPM says that the bishops are dismissed.

    “… the [GOP] budget itself illustrates that the GOP has different priorities, reflecting the Bishops’ concerns.

    It objects both to the GOP budget blueprint, and to its requirement that the House pass legislation cutting food stamps and other domestic programs to offset the cost of rescinding “sequestration” — the across-the-board cuts to national security and domestic spending programs set to take effect on Jan. 1.

    Indeed, as illustrated here, the Republican budget calls for preserving high levels of spending on Medicare, Social Security and defense — but since the GOP refuses to increase taxes, it holds down deficits with massive cuts to Medicaid, SCHIP and most of the domestic budget. ”

    Boehner Dismisses Catholic Bishops’ Criticism Of GOP Budget
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/04/boehner-dismisses-catholic-bishop-criticism-of-gop-budget.php?ref=fpa

    Edit: I don’t know if Johnny Bones represents Toledo, but it sounds good.

  29. 29.

    JGabriel

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    BGinCHI:

    Anybody else hear that news today that the Bishops’ Council condemned the Ryan Budget for being immoral?

    Yep, here’s the story at TPM.

    As I said over there, this is what happens when a political party grants authority to attack their opposition to a church — the church gets the authority to attack their own platform too. The GOP shouldn’t have gotten into bed with the bishops for a pro-life blowjob if they didn’t want a buggering over the hungry and the poor.

    Also, see this ThinkProgress piece on some priests refusing to participate in church ordered drives to overturn marriage equality in Washington state.

    .

  31. 31.

    quannlace

    Tomorrow we will have something definitive to say, one way or the other.

    We’ll attempt to be slightly less vague than today’s chickenshit statement.

    It’s always a hoot to see how Donohue deludes himself into thinking he’s this major player on the national scene. He’s allowed to take up some screen time , fulminating on Fox, and maybe a few minutes on CNN. And then he’s promptly ignored.

  32. 32.

    Quaker in a Basement

    we will mobilize Protestants, Jews, Mormons and Muslims to join us in a boycott of his sponsors

    Bless his heart.

  35. 35.

    Montysano

    @Shinobi:

    I wonder if he’s actually had his sense of humor removed? or if it just atrophied from lack of use?

    Much like Ted Nugent, Donohue is just another grifter. If a week goes by without any media action, he gets panicky. Spew some bile, make a buck.

  36. 36.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    Awesome, maybe Bill Donohue’s newfound sympathies for women will compel him to join the Limbaugh boycott.

    Hahaahahhahaha!

  37. 37.

    trollhattan

    Also, too, does the general public even know who the hell Donohue is? My only exposure (ewww) to him is through bloggy mockings like this one. Compared to, say, Jessie Jackson, he has a thousandth of the public profile.

  38. 38.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    If he does not, we will mobilize Protestants, Jews, Mormons and Muslims to join us in a boycott of his sponsors.

    If this hateful jackalope, who has directly and by name grossly insulted every one of these religions could pull this off, I’ll abandon my atheism and adopt him as my personal god because there’s no way he’s going to be able to mobilize a single member of the above groups without some seriously potent divine intervention.

  40. 40.

    Martin

    Hello, I’m Dick Clark’s head. Welcome to a special year 3000 edition of New Year’s Rockin’ Eve!

    So long Dick. You had a good run.

  44. 44.

    Raven

    @JPL: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

    and a Tijuana Tuck and Roll

  50. 50.

    Raven

    @JPL: It got cancelled for me a LONG time ago. . .unless one of my teams is in the Chick-Fil_A Bowl that is.

  52. 52.

    Bulworth

    I look forward to this boycott having the same equally successful and stunning effect as that of the “million moms” of JC Penney and Ellen DeGeneris.

  54. 54.

    Mickey

    Here’s the thing. They are going after comedy shows and Comedians who don’t take themselves seriously and don’t try pretend their stories are real.

    Think about it. The only “both sides do it” equivalent the right can find are comedians that don’t take themselves seriously. How fucking funny is that!

  55. 55.

    jl

    @trollhattan:

    ” Also, too, does the general public even know who the hell Donohue is? ”

    He seems to be trotted out by corporate media as voice of all Catholics times past present and future. When I was traveling end of March, I saw the guy on CNN babbling about Catholic owned hospitals and colleges having to provide insurance policies that covered women’s stuff destroyed religious freedom.

    That crisis of the century was kind of played out, but I guess they needed some filler in between baseless and endless speculation and posturing and bickering talking heads on he Trayvon Martin shooting.

    I think Donohue actually represents a PR slush fund masquerading as a nonprofit something or other, and a few very bitter and excitable people around the country.

    So, blogs and airport/hotel lobby TV is only time I ever hear or read about the guy.

  56. 56.

    MikeJ

    @Raven:

    Dick Clark died. Let the bashing begin.

    Early rock timeline (abridged, so don’t complain If i leave out your fve)

    Rockabilly (Carl Perkins, Jerry Lee Lewis) -> Dick Clark Era (Fabian, Frankie Avalon) -> Beatles, Stones, Who

    Which of those eras sucked the hardest?

  57. 57.

    gnomedad

    This is why I’m not big into calls for apologies and denunciations. Let them show us who they are as often as possible and let them whine about what meanies we are. I hope Rush gives the keynote at the GOP convention.

  58. 58.

    Corpsicle

    In a better world this would be a sort of performance art religious joke.

    So a Catholic, a Protestant, a Jew, a Mormon and a Muslim walk into this protest, and …

  59. 59.

    lamh35

    @Raven:

    Darn, I had to come off my internet exile for the news about Dick Clark.

    Aww man, I still try to stay up every year to watch Dick Clark’s New Year’s Rockin’ Eve. As I’ve gotten older, haven’t been able to stay up so late…LOL.

    RIP Dick Clark.

  61. 61.

    Calouste

    Oh, a religious boycott? Just like the boycotts of JC Penney for employing Ellen DeGeneres as a spokesperson and Starbucks for endorsing gay marriage that had those companies shaking in their boots with laughter?

  63. 63.

    Chris

    We are asking Stewart to apologize. If he does not, we will mobilize Protestants, Jews, Mormons and Muslims to join us in a boycott of his sponsors.

    Good idea – you and your ilk have proven a lot more popular among Protestant fundiegelicals than among Catholics so far.

    As for mobilizing Jews and Muslims behind a Catholic League crusade? Heh. Good luck with that.

  65. 65.

    jl

    @g:

    Did Donohue include Mormons in the boycott?

    Hmmppph. So, he doesn’t want Mormons to join?

    Hate speech, I want an explanation, and if not explanation, an apology, and if no apology, I want Wolf to make him apologize straight to the camera, or else, reject, revile, renounce, repudiate and refudiate time for all right thinking respectable peoples.

    And, what about he Samaritans?

    Ok, sorry, I missed Mormons. So, how about Samaritans, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs and Jains? Hmm?

  66. 66.

    BGinCHI

    Next, Bill Donohue leads Catholics and Muslims on a protest against the Crusades.

    VICTORY!

  69. 69.

    pragmatism

    @Corpsicle: a catholic priest, a pedophile and a rapist walk into a bar. he orders a beer. burnsy, esq., attorney and counselor at law walks in and says, “THIS MAN DOES NOT REPRESENT CATHOLICISM!”

  72. 72.

    Bubblegum Tate

    I think Stewart should use Donohue as his own version of Colbert’s Ham Rove.

    Also: BILL DONOHUE IS FRIENDS WITH RADICAL MUSLIMS! AIIIEEEEEE!

  73. 73.

    lamh35

    @Raven: I’m only 35, so obviously, I wasn’t around in 60. So when I became aware of Dick Clark, is was probably more so because of New Year’s Rockin’ Eve. It was one of the few nationalize television programs on New Year’s Eve. So that’s my first experience with Dick Clark…so I can’t say much about it’s decent into “square-ness”.

    But it was a staple on New Year’s Eve.

  74. 74.

    Culture of Truth

    Catholic, Protestants, Jews, Mormons and Muslims

    It must be National Brotherhood Week

  76. 76.

    lamh35

    @Raven: plus I can deny that thanks to American Bandstand a lot of Black music pioneers were brought forth to white audiences and got exposure that they may never had had otherwise.

    So if that is his only legacy, that’s a good one in my book.

  78. 78.

    Gex

    @BGinCHI: Not quite getting the press that their outrage over female medical care got, is it? Gotta love the Village and their thumbs on the scales.

    I mean, it’s not like the Catholic opposition to the death penalty or the Iraq War got any play either.

  80. 80.

    KG

    @JPL: no, they plugged Ryan Seacrest into that spot a couple of years ago.

    and how can Dick Clark be dead? I thought he was a cyborg?

  81. 81.

    lamh35

    @Raven: I hear, ya, but since I was like maybe 5 in 1981 and I wasn’t a teenager who wanted to rock out on NYE until like 1994 (I was 17 then), staying in and watching TV on NYE was what I did if I wasn’t in church with my family…so yeah it made an impact.

    Like I said though, when I’m in on NYE, I do find myself at least watching the ball drop in NYC and it’s usually watching Rockn’ eve.

    ETA: I meant can’t, but I’m not getting into anything over Dick Clark of all people… I know him only as far as NYE impact on my young self. That’s all I was saying

  82. 82.

    Heliopause

    The reason for the myth of Jesus being born of a human female (presumably out her vagina) was to show the humanity of Jesus. The reason for the myth of the manger was to show the humility and sacrifice of Jesus. Stewart was simply combining two images from the Christian mythos into one big superChristian symbol. Jon Stewart is a secret Christian.

  84. 84.

    bemused

    @BGinCHI:

    Ha, ha, Boehner is concerned that if our fiscal house isn’t put in order, there will be no safety nets. He must be taking notes from Mitt on lying blatantly without stumbling.

  85. 85.

    Julia Grey

    They probably are pissed off at Stewart not because he mentioned the vagina manger but that he showed it.

    And it was a bit edgy, I thought.

    It even unnerved Stewart himself, I think. Still. It’s the COMEDY Channel, people. Even the Daily Show is guaranteed to swerve toward vulgarity upon occasion. Shock makes people laugh.

    Don’t come into the kitchen if you don’t want to smell the Christmas Poo. (Was it Hillary’s or Oprah’s naughty bits that were an actual character on South Park?)

    ANYWAY. I really wonder how Donohue thinks he’s going to get Jews and Muslims to join in a protest against an “insult” to CHRISTIANITY?

  86. 86.

    Legalize

    With God as my witness, there will be butt-hurt, Mr. Stewart. There will be butt-hurt on the beaches. There will be butt-hurt in the hills. There will be butt-hurt in the city square.

  87. 87.

    flukebucket

    @Julia Grey:

    It did seem to rattle Stewart a little bit. He turned a shade of red and did look a little out of sorts for a couple of minutes.

  88. 88.

    Ed Drone

    @KG:

    how can Dick Clark be dead? I thought he was a cyborg?

    Dead batteries. Those older-generation cyborgs are hell on using up the power cubes.

    Ed

  90. 90.

    kay

    @BGinCHI:

    He has to ask the other groups.

    I think it’s the best part. It’s hysterical. What if they don’t call him back? What if they say “no” or “we don’t care”?

  92. 92.

    SteveM

    We are asking Stewart to apologize. If he does not, we will mobilize…

    Is that the royal we, Billy D? It must be, because everybody knows you’re the only actual member of the Catholic “League.”

  93. 93.

    KG

    @Julia Grey: Oprah’s naughty bits (front and back) were characters. Hillary’s naughty bits were a WMD.

    And he’ll get Jews and Muslims on board because it’s obviously a shot at organized religion by those godless secularists, or something.

    I’m tired of being outraged because of some act, or worse, being outraged by someone else being outraged. Let’s just skip to the part where we legalize weed and everyone gets stoned, because really, we need to take the edge off.

  94. 94.

    Patricia Kayden

    Wow, conservatism is really a mental illness. That’s the only way you can explain someone like Donahue.

  95. 95.

    catclub

    @Forum Transmitted Disease: “there’s no way he’s going to be able to mobilize a single member of the above groups without some seriously potent divine intervention.”

    Depends which Protestants we are referring to. Evangelical right-wing Christians have a lot of [obsessions] causes in common with ol Bill.

    Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists — not so much.

  97. 97.

    kindness

    So who else here wouldn’t be shocked if one day the authorities were to find Bill O’Donohue’s dead body dressed up in two wet suits with a big dildo stuffed up his bum? His kind of conservatives seem to go there.

  104. 104.

    Jennifer

    @Keith: I want to see the Something Awful crowd do a goatse/Thomas Kinkade mashup. Maybe a re-make of Kinkade’s “The Cross” with the heavenly light from above shining out of a gaping goatse. You get the idea.

  108. 108.

    Bubblegum Tate

    @Julia Grey:

    It even unnerved Stewart himself

    He didn’t seem at all unnerved to me. He laughed at it because he hadn’t seen the graphic before the taping of the show.

  109. 109.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @JPL:

    It wasn’t cancelled when Guy Lombardo passed into the great beyond.

    It won’t be cancelled for Dick “Forever Young” Clark.

  110. 110.

    scav

    We are prepared to spend the money it takes to make this a nationwide issue

    My GSD, Veritas is Bill Donohue. VICTORY!

  111. 111.

    Geeno

    @Villago Delenda Est: Thank you Villago! Guy Lombardo was the name I’ve been trying to come up with since I heard DC died.
    I didn’t think Dick was especially bad in Bowling for Columbine. He was a bit rude, but he just decided he wasn’t going to play Moore’s game with him. There’s no upside to a Dick Clark to getting into it with MM. So he just shut it down and left. Probably exactly the footage Moore was expecting.

  112. 112.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Bill Donohue: Demand whatever the hell you want. WE, OTOH, demand that you go FUCK YOURSELF WITH A RUSTY CHAINSAW.

    @burnsthedefenderofthefaith: As in all crony-capitalist & criminal (but I repeat myself) enterprises, the thugs who run the One Holy Catholic & Apostolic Church use the low-level help as human shields to deflect the shitstorm they so richly deserve. Thanks for enabling them.

  113. 113.

    AA+ Bonds

    Hahahaha shit yes, mobilize your Muslims Bill, all of your Muslims that you have waiting to mobilize

  114. 114.

    AA+ Bonds

    This apostate should be given due course to correct his errors and then excommunicated

  115. 115.

    AA+ Bonds

    @BGinCHI:

    Anybody else hear that news today that the Bishops’ Council condemned the Ryan Budget for being immoral?
    __
    I almost got fucking whiplash when I heard that. I wanted to rewind the radio to see if I’d heard it right.

    The Catholic Church is not right-wing; it posits a system that presumes to pass judgment on democracy and capitalism alike

    The bishops are regularly on the ‘correct’ side of economic justice issues that include labor battles and the death penalty

  116. 116.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    @Culture of Truth:

    It must be National Brotherhood Week

    Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
    And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
    And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
    And everybody hates the Jews.

    But during National Brotherhood Week, National Brotherhood Week,
    It’s National Everyone-smile-at-one-another-hood Week.
    Be nice to people who
    Are inferior to you.
    It’s only for a week, so have no fear.
    Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year!

  118. 118.

    Petorado

    Lordy be. A manger is a term for an animal feed trough. It’s always been taken as a sign of Christ’s humble beginning — a sign that he was not born with a silver spoon in his mouth (unlike some politicians running for president of the US.) A feeding trough is not, in and of itself, a sacred symbol to any religion. No one worships what pigs and cows at this very moment are gorging themselves from before their slaughter. Donohue just loves to nail himself to crosses of his own making and blaming it all on the liberals

  119. 119.

    stan chaz

    Ah, my dear Mr. Donahue, let us take out our bible and meditate a bit on the words attributed to the founder of your religion, in Matthew 5:44: “But I say unto you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those that hate you, and pray for those who insult you and persecute you.” Go in peace my friend – and show us what your religion means by the example of your life, not by having your religion trying to control the lives of the rest of us. ‘Cause when you do that, then both you, and your religion, are fair game……

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