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by Tim F|  April 30, 201211:14 pm| 112 Comments

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As long as I’m linking to io9, I might as well recommend this. No point summarizing, just go read. And chat about whatever.

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  1. 1.

    TooManyJens

    April 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    (Or that there are some jokers who see Amazon reviews as a great place to post new comedy bits. Let’s hope it’s the latter.)

    …are they new to Amazon?

  2. 2.

    Hill Dweller

    April 30, 2012 at 11:19 pm

    Obligatory ‘The Daily Show sucks’ comment.

  3. 3.

    Amir Khalid

    April 30, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    (Repost from a previous open thread: I know some Juicers are interested in the Bersih 3.0 thing here in KL.)

    Now for some more Bersih 3.0 coverage from Balloon Juice’s self-appointed Malaysian correspondent.

    The mutual finger-pointing is well underway. Bersih and the Royal Malaysian Police are blaming each other for starting the violence. Inspector-General (i.e. national chief) of Police Ismail Omar says Bersih broke a promise to keep things peaceful.

    Bersih chairwoman Ambiga Sreenavasan and opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim accuse the cops of overreacting to a breach of a crowd barricade, which happened when the crowd was dispersing after the Bersih 3.O rally. The barricade was meant to keep demonstrators from reaching Dataran Merdeka, an iconic public square which is to Malaysians roughly what the Washington Mall is to Americans. (Bersih 3.0 organisers had promised compliance with a court order to keep out of Dataran Merdeka, but on the day some people had other ideas upon leaving the rally.)

    Local corporate media — TV, radio, major print newspapers — are all dutifully echoing the government line, that demonstrations have no place in Nalaysia, that Bersih are out to disrupt oublic order.

    Independent (mostly online) media is taking a more nuanced view. The violence by some young and hotheaded demonstrators after the rally ended is deplored, even though provoked by the police, because to some extent it defeated Bersih’s plan to have a peaceful event. (The cop in the car got overturned, after he apparently rammed some demonstrators in it, had his picture in the papers, with a bandage on his head.)

    There’s a sense that the day was still a net loss for PM Najib Abdul Razak and his Barisan Nasional government. Najib was going to call a general election this year, but now he might want to put some more distance between Bersih 3.0 and the election lest Barisan candidates suffer.

  4. 4.

    Culture of Truth

    April 30, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Reminds me of this http://www.thinkatheist.com/profiles/blogs/bill-nye-bood-in-texas-for/

  5. 5.

    danielx

    April 30, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    It’s hard to know where to start on the alarming reviews. However, it’s cause for reflection on the idiocy of my gender when it comes to personal vanity. I mean, how much more info do you need than “Don’t use this product on your nads!” Plus which some of these Brits really should be Balloon Juice commentators.

    Take it away, The Cantankerous Tiger:

    Probably the first thing you will notice after using this product is the pain. Although as a man I lack the required experience, I’m going to estimate that using this product is at least eleven times more painful than childbirth.
    Imagine sticking a rusty razor blade into your favourite eye, before tying your hands behind your back. Then imagine that you use the entrenched razor blade to slice open a raw onion. All the while being butt naked. This product is slightly more painful than that.

    A second endorsement from someone named NoGGY:

    If you are keen player in the arts of “BDSM” or “Sadomasochism”, be my guest, this product will certainly bring you pleasure. However if you are a run of the mill bloke trying to remove some unwanted hair from some unwanted places, this product will make you cry.

    All these reviews are from people who evidently ignored the product label warnings about – ahem! – not using the product in intimate areas. I must say that the well known British stiff upper lip is nowhere in evidence in any of these reviews, and there are supposedly thirty pages worth. I didn’t get past the first two pages before tears were pouring from my eyes. Tears of laughter and – shudder – vicarious wincing. The lengths that some people will go to for visual enhancement….

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    April 30, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    On the topic at hand, I also remember the similarly hilarious Amazon reviews, some years ago, of a Japanese hi-fi company’s wonder product: a five-foot long CAT-5 audio cable, with fancy shielded connectors, for US$500 — a sum which, in real life, would buy you Cat-5 cable by the kilometer drum.

  7. 7.

    jon

    April 30, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    After careful consideration, I’ll continue my appointment schedule at Dr Evil’s Sharks with Frickin’ Lasers Hair Removal Salon and Headquarters.

    Look for their Groupon.

  8. 8.

    lamh35

    April 30, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    James Fallows reacts to Romney “Even Jimmy Carter..” crack.

    ‘Even Jimmy Carter’

    Mitt Romney informs us that the raid that took out Osama bin Laden one year ago was no big deal, because “even Jimmy Carter would have given that order.”

    Grrrrr…

  9. 9.

    Hill Dweller

    April 30, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    Looks like the wingers have gone to the tried and true tactic of planting a story in the Daily Mail(getting pushed by Drudge) attacking Obama for talking about the Bin Laden raid.

  10. 10.

    lamh35

    April 30, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    Obligatory Colbert >>>>>>>>> Stewart!

  11. 11.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    I was forced to follow the link under the main story to a story about Bhutan’s friendly phalluses being threatened by Western prudishness. It was unexpectedly interesting, though definitely NSFW, and made me wonder where Los Angeles’ Bhutanese neighborhood might be. (We have every other nationality under the sun gathered here, so I’m sure we have immigrants from Bhutan as well.)

  12. 12.

    PeakVT

    April 30, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Your (possibly FTL) cable.

  13. 13.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    April 30, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    @Hill Dweller: Just saw that at TPM. I’d never heard it before. I guess even with FoxNews, with Russert dead, Republicans need furriners to get their talking points into the media.

    @lamh35: tonight it was like Stewart was trying to get me to give up on him.A Biden is dumb joke? Really? I actually think Biden would be a great foil to Stewart if he was pissed off, but much as I like Biden, he’s a bit of press-fucker.

  14. 14.

    Valdivia

    April 30, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    so now the Romney camp is gearing up for a Nave Seals for Truth about Obama and Bin Laden?

    WTF

  15. 15.

    Valdivia

    April 30, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    I couldn’t even click on the link. Is it horrid? TPM described it as I said above Navy Seals for Truth

  16. 16.

    JGabriel

    April 30, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    __
    __
    Oh god, I can’t stop laughing. These reviews (Thank you, John Cole!) for Veet for Men Hair Removal Gel Creme 200 ml are hilarious:

    5.0 out of 5 stars
    DO NOT PUT ON KNOB AND BOLLOCKS, 24 Jan 2012
    By Andrew
    __
    Being a loose cannon who does not play by the rules the first thing I did was ignore the warning and smear this all over my knob and bollocks. The bollocks I knew and loved are gone now. In their place is a maroon coloured bag of agony which sends stabs of pain up my body every time it grazes against my thigh or an article of clothing. I am suffering so that you don’t have to. Heed my lesson. DO NOT PUT ON KNOB AND BOLLOCKS.

    3.0 out of 5 stars
    LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION, 17 April 2012
    By The Cantankerous Tiger
    __
    I like the clean shaven look down in my gentleman’s log cabin, so for the past few years I’ve used a shaver. However the hair keeps growing back which means every 6 months I have to spend 20 minutes trimming again. As I’m sure you’ve realise this is valuable time I cannot waste. So I decided to get to the root of the problem and purchased this product.
    __
    Probably the first thing you will notice after using this product is the pain. …

    Oh, the humanity!

    .

  17. 17.

    Steve in DC

    April 30, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    http://www.pearcable.com/sub_products_anjou_sc.htm
    if you want cable insanity

  18. 18.

    General Stuck

    April 30, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    Lame wingnut meme of the day

    The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

    Everyone knows the word “forward’ can only mean soshulist lackey. So sneaky, that Obama, but he can’t fool the Washington Times wizards. No siree.

  19. 19.

    JGabriel

    April 30, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    DO NOT PUT ON KNOB AND BOLLOCKS is undoubtedly going into the Internet Meme Hall Of Fame, up there with Keep Fucking That Chicken and All Your Base Are Belong To Us.

    .

  20. 20.

    Valdivia

    April 30, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    @General Stuck:

    You know there is an old yiddish paper printed in nyc. the name of this paper is…… The Forward.

    I guess anyone using that word is an evil comunist!

  21. 21.

    kchiker

    May 1, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Did anyone just see Diane Keaton on Colbert? Holy crap she was…medicated.

  22. 22.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 12:01 am

    @JGabriel

    Nothing beats I put on my wizard robe and hat.

    http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/robe-and-wizard-hat

    take it away bloodninja

  23. 23.

    Hill Dweller

    May 1, 2012 at 12:03 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The both sides do it angle in the student loan bit was infuriating.

    The constant Broderesque take on stories is annoying, but more than anything, it feels like Stewart is just mailing it in.

    Even the correspondents’ pieces, which has always been the strength of the show, are hit and miss.

  24. 24.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 12:11 am

    @Hill Dweller

    Stewarts deal has always been pointing out that the king and court have no clothes, which is true, and that none of the nobles have the balls to say it, also true.

    That one side is more prone to jackassery than the other side does not mean that the other side is innocent of it.

  25. 25.

    4tehlulz

    May 1, 2012 at 12:16 am

    @General Stuck: It’s true.

    After all, you know who else was a European Marxist…

  26. 26.

    danielx

    May 1, 2012 at 12:17 am

    @JGabriel:

    I’ll tell ya, if I had any interest in such a procedure they would have convinced me not to use the product in an unapproved area. Those reviewers did…wait for it…wax eloquent, didn’t they?

  27. 27.

    Cassidy

    May 1, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Excellent product. Most prisoners confessed within five minutes of the first application. Can recommend.

    My favorite.

  28. 28.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 12:21 am

    I’m pretty sure everybody makes the mistake of nairing their nads once in their life, followed by the hilarious disaster that follows.

  29. 29.

    Dollared

    May 1, 2012 at 12:22 am

    @General Stuck:
    “Forward.” That would be the state motto of Wisconsin. A coincidence, of course.

  30. 30.

    Cassidy

    May 1, 2012 at 12:23 am

    @Steve in DC: True, but he went from pointing out idiocy to bending over backwards and contorting himself into a human sourdough pretzel so that he could maintain the facade. He’s so scared of people labeled as “liberal” that he’ll ignore batshit crazy Republicans if there is something he can say about some idiot Democrat. He doesn’t seem to get that the people he’s trying to impress already consider him a liberal and don’t watch him.

  31. 31.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2012 at 12:26 am

    @PeakVT:
    Yes, that was the one.

  32. 32.

    Dollared

    May 1, 2012 at 12:26 am

    BTW, you-all should also follow the “Mark Trail finds a marijawana farm” link @the 109 site as well.

    Buckets of awesome, with the actual offending panels and commentary from Dr. Emilio Lizardo.

    “But the main reason this particular arc is so damn magical is because Mark Trail is the absolute worst medium to tell a taut crime story. This goes back to artist Jack Elrod’s tendency to obfuscate the action with close-ups of animals. So when Ranger Tom Martin is kidnapped by pot farmers, the reader is treated to consistent photo-bombs by deciduous fauna. If there is ever a Mark Trail movie, every other frame will be interrupted by a nosy muskrat or nutria or marmoset. And the below strips are just the ones that ran during April. Mark Trail’s wedding pictures likely occurred during a joint locust swarm/salmon migration.””

    You gotta see the panels.

  33. 33.

    Hill Dweller

    May 1, 2012 at 12:28 am

    @Valdivia: I’m not clicking a Daily Mail link. Although I’ve seen enough summations to get the gist. The fact it is in a rag like the Daily Mail(and pushed by Drudge) should set off alarm bells for fair-minded people.

    The Republicans will push it like crazy tomorrow, but the facts remain Romney said he wouldn’t go into Pakistan, and criticized Obama for saying he would; Obama said he would get OBL, and did it.

    Romney is vulnerable on national security, and the right knows it. Hence, the preemptive ‘outrage’.

  34. 34.

    freelancer

    May 1, 2012 at 12:29 am

    James Randi showed high-end audiophile cable makers to pretty much be as full of shit as Uri Geller and Sylvia Browne.

  35. 35.

    JGabriel

    May 1, 2012 at 12:32 am

    __
    __
    Washington Times via General Stuck:

    The Obama campaign apparently didn’t look backwards into history when selecting its new campaign slogan, “Forward” — a word with a long and rich association with European Marxism.

    Much like “BACKWARD” has a long and rich association with American Republicans.

    .

  36. 36.

    Hill Dweller

    May 1, 2012 at 12:34 am

    @Steve in DC: I can count on two hands the number of shows I’ve missed since Stewart starting hosting. So, I’m well aware of Stewart’s shtick, and the show’s tenor.

    Additionally, I have absolutely no problem hitting Dems(or anyone for that matter) if it is warranted.

    All that said, the last couple of months, Stewart has been tying himself in knots trying to be ‘balanced’. The bit on student loans tonight was a great example.

  37. 37.

    JGabriel

    May 1, 2012 at 12:36 am

    @Steve in DC:

    I’m pretty sure everybody makes the mistake of nairing their nads once in their life …

    [Room goes quiet. Everyone looks at someone else, with stricken expressionlessness. Conversation resumes, as if the moment never happened.]

    .

  38. 38.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 12:43 am

    @Cassidy

    I know plenty of diehard conservatives that watch John Stewart and Colbert as well. Ditto a lot of centrists. What you forget is that not all conservatives are knuckle dragging bible thumpers.

    By far the most dangerous conservatives are, IMHO, socially liberal ones, they tend to be the most economically fuck the poor (seems to go hand in hand with social liberalism). They don’t care about abortion, they are fine with the gays marrying, they believe in global warming but don’t want to take the economic hit, and they really just want to slash the fuck out the entitlement state.

    These guys are legion. They are totally game for slamming idiotic conservatives and idiotic liberals. Stewart does have an audience that’s far more defined by age than it is by political culture.

    In fact, it’s in my experience that if you’re white and have a college degree, there is little difference between a Republican and a Democrat. Both of them want to gut the welfare state and privatize shit, and both them are socially liberal and down with blowing lines of coke at a gay bar and picking up the easy women there. It’s just a matter of if you’re in the Democratic party trying to make it more fiscally conservative or if you’re in the Republican party waiting for the old religious people to die off. But outside of that difference, they are the same.

    Granted a lot of this is DC culture, but it’s true in other major cities as well (holler NYC).

    Outside of the true believers this country is moving to the left on social issues and to the right on economic issues. Because that’s what the people with the money and the power want.

    Oh, they might disagree on if cutting spending or marrying the gays should be done first, that’s about it.

  39. 39.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2012 at 12:43 am

    @Steve in DC:
    (Crosses fingers.) Not me! I mean, um, not me …

  40. 40.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Also, since I feel like being that asshole tonight:

    Any gentleman yukking it up about these reviews tonight who also insists that his wife/girlfriend/ladyfriend stay smooth Down There should keep in mind that, yes, you are demanding that she apply burning chemicals to her most delicate parts just to please your aesthetic sense but find the idea that you would do something equally painful in return to be just HI-larious.

    (If you apply equal grooming standards to yourself and your partner then obviously this admonishment doesn’t apply to you. But it’s pretty common to see guys not make the connection between “hair removal is painful” and “hey, my wife/girlfriend/ladyfriend is remarkably body hair-free …”)

  41. 41.

    Mark S.

    May 1, 2012 at 12:48 am

    It’s nice to see Mark Trail is as zany as ever. I always liked how in every other panel it would look like an animal was talking.

    Come to think of it, that’s about the only entertaining thing about Mark Trail.

  42. 42.

    Hill Dweller

    May 1, 2012 at 12:51 am

    Maddow has been doing great work covering Michigan politics/governance recently.

  43. 43.

    Cassidy

    May 1, 2012 at 12:54 am

    @Mnemosyne: Yes, but see, you’ve conveniently left out another part of that argument. Unless a woman happens to be extraordinarily talented, she never has to worry about even so much as having her nose tickled. OTOH, I have yet to meet a guy who enjoys an excessive amount of garnish. So, it does behoove the ladies to stay well groomed.

  44. 44.

    Nutella

    May 1, 2012 at 12:57 am

    Best line from the Amazon reviews was the title of one: “Baldy go where no man has gone before”.

  45. 45.

    patroclus

    May 1, 2012 at 12:59 am

    Thanks to John Cole, first of his name, Balloon Juice is the greatest blog that ever was or will be. But only death pays for life and winter is coming…

  46. 46.

    Yutsano

    May 1, 2012 at 1:00 am

    @Cassidy:

    Unless a woman happens to be extraordinarily talented, she never has to worry about even so much as having her nose tickled. OTOH, I have yet to meet a guy who enjoys an excessive amount of garnish.

    Ahem. I happen to be so talented. And I will tell you right now going until your nose is buried in a forest before you’re all the way down is rather annoying. I’m not asking for baldness here, but at the very least keep the forest under some semblance of control.

  47. 47.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 1:02 am

    @freelancer

    There is “high end audio” and then there is “high end audio”, you get diminishing returns. But first off some basics.

    If the signal is digital it’s just 1’s and 0’s, either it gets to the end intact or it does not, there is no signal degradation or interference or any of the crap people rant on about. It either does, or does not. Thus high end DIGITAL cables are complete and total bullshit. The only reason you should buy them is if they are certified to be run through your wall and your ceiling, and this is more so you don’t start a fire and burn down the entire place.

    Now analogue cables are different. In this signal strength and cable quality do matter, as does the length of the run. This things can be extremely finicky. The catch, you’re not really going to be able to hear a difference on cheaper home theater systems, read anything south of 15,000 bucks just for speakers, at all. The speakers simply aren’t capable of producing the right sound. That’s also leaving out a player, amp, and receiver which are only going to make things more expensive.

    Of course, there is a limit to just how much build quality really does anything for a speaker cable. A hundred bucks a meter is actually reasonable for good cables, but anything above that you cross into the area where it doesn’t do you any good.

    Of course the problem is that the industry convinced people that since analogue needs better cables digital must as well! And if quality cables makes a difference on an $20,000 home theater system it will also make a difference on an $1000 pile of shit that BOSE made. And if 100 bucks a meter is a great cable than 2000 bucks a meter is an amazing cable!

    There is a lot of snake oil out there but in audiophile territory quality cable does make a difference. I’d never buy from pear though.

    http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/audio/index.htm

    I get most of my stuff from them. Great guy, it is all made in America not that Chinese shit at all.

    The owner also did a great take down of Monster cable

    http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back

    Of course, if you want to buy union produced audio cables you have to go to the EU, and you start to get up in prices (not worth it unless you have top end gear) but you do support a union shop.

    http://www.jenving.se/?p=products

  48. 48.

    burnspbesq

    May 1, 2012 at 1:02 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Don’t get me started on audiophiles who have a cable fetish. I personally know people who have spent $15K on speaker cables.

    This is no lie.

  49. 49.

    dollared

    May 1, 2012 at 1:05 am

    @burnspbesq: My father would look at consumption like that and explain that “confiscatory taxation is there to prevent rich people from acting like idiots.”

  50. 50.

    Cassidy

    May 1, 2012 at 1:07 am

    @Yutsano: Don’t get me wrong, I firmly believe in a man being clean and groomed. OTOH, I think that on one end, a small part of the population deals with that particular issue vs. a man bringing along a machete in the event Dr. Livingston is found.

    Edit: Foreplay should never seem like the really weird parts of Apocalypse Now.

  51. 51.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 1:09 am

    @Cassidy:

    Unless a woman happens to be extraordinarily talented, she never has to worry about even so much as having her nose tickled.

    You guys really have no conception of where hair shows up on you, do you? Trust me, you have more than a few in places that your wife is too polite to mention while she’s down in that area.

    Take a look sometime, fellas — you’ve got at least a few strays in the, shall we say, knob area that you’ve never noticed but, trust me, she has.

  52. 52.

    burnspbesq

    May 1, 2012 at 1:11 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    Any gentleman yukking it up about these reviews tonight who also insists that his wife/girlfriend/ladyfriend stay smooth Down There …

    … is in effect saying he’d like to do 12-year-old girls but is afraid of doing the jail time that goes with fulfilling that wish.

  53. 53.

    TheMightyTrowel

    May 1, 2012 at 1:11 am

    @Cassidy: Oh the poor sensitive mens. What if they gets a yucky lady hair in their precious little teeths. As a lady who likes ladies, I can’t say copious hair has ever been a problem. Usually a bonus.

  54. 54.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 1:12 am

    @Mnemosyne

    I demand a clean crotch, but I also trim myself. Having said that though, not all areas of the body are equally sensitive. And putting those chemicals on your balls is a very stupid idea. Women tend to have more and better hair removal products than men do. I’m sure part of this is gender issues, but the truth is we really don’t have many options.

    If you put hair remover on your balls your nuts are going to turn beet red and it will hurt like hell, they will also crack and bleed when you’re done with it.

    Most of us, in an honest “hey if I don’t like hair she probably doesn’t either” stroll down the CVS isle and find men’s hair remover, slap it on our balls and then never do that again.

    There isn’t a ball hair remover, I’ve looked. I used to live in Dupont circle, the gay mecha of DC and I asked at several salons. Tons of chest hair removers (though some women seem to like that because “you look like a man and not a little boy” it seems) but there is no ball hair remover. And waxing (I asked as well) and laser treatments are also evidently verboten.

  55. 55.

    GregB

    May 1, 2012 at 1:13 am

    I too remember when the GOP humbly stopped talking about the Cold War after it was over and never, ever, ever politicized the Cold War by claiming that one man won a war that was fought 50 years running by no less than 7 Presidents.

  56. 56.

    Cassidy

    May 1, 2012 at 1:13 am

    @TheMightyTrowel: Eh…to each their own. Wonderful thing about preferences and all. And I’m honestly not concerned about my teeth. It’s when you come up for air and a stray one gets to the back of the throat. Coughing fits are never romantic.

  57. 57.

    burnspbesq

    May 1, 2012 at 1:14 am

    @dollared:

    Well, if your system is built around these bad boys, maybe the cables don’t seem out of place.

    http://www.stereophile.com/content/mighty-magico-q7

  58. 58.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 1:20 am

    @Steve in DC:

    For that specific area, it’s not the sensitivity per se, it’s the skin texture. It’s harder to remove hair from loose/wrinkled skin, so the relatively simple procedure of removing hair from the flat, smooth skin of the chest becomes much more complicated when you move to that differently-textured skin.

    But also almost all chemical hair-removers don’t work, in my experience. Nothing like smearing chemicals on your shins and watching blood seep out of your pores while the actual hair doesn’t budge an inch to turn you off that method.

  59. 59.

    burnspbesq

    May 1, 2012 at 1:21 am

    That’s a wrap for me. I was up at 4:15 to catch a plane. See y’all tomorrow.

    P.S. Fuck Manchester City. And the horses they rode in on. And their motherfucking Carolina Blue uniforms.

  60. 60.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 1:21 am

    He’s using MIT cables, those retail for 20k and up in some cases. But yeah, that’s going utterly high end.

    The cables do make a difference, that’s not the issue. The issue is telling people that using a speaker cable costing several thousand dollars is going to improve sound quality and then cramming down the necks of people who think Sony and Samsung make good speakers, they don’t.

  61. 61.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 1:25 am

    @Mnemosyne

    No, no it is. Smear the chemicals on your arm and then smear it on a nipple and your asshole, wait 10 mins or so. Notice the difference? Balls is about 100 times worse. You’ve got more nerve endings and it’s uber sensitive, and the skin doesn’t crack and bleed in other areas.

  62. 62.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 1:26 am

    @Cassidy:

    Trimming is courteous (and usually painless) for everyone. It’s complete removal that’s painful, tedious and annoying, and yet a lot of guys don’t seem to realize just how much work it takes.

    And that’s not even getting into the itching when things start growing back, plus the lovely red bumps from the inevitable ingrown hairs. I think that was even worse than the actual removal.

  63. 63.

    burnspbesq

    May 1, 2012 at 1:27 am

    @Steve in DC:

    Thus high end DIGITAL cables are complete and total bullshit.

    We’re going to have a throw-down on this subject someday. Come to my house and sit down at the desk in my office. I’ll run a cheap-shit Belkin USB cable from my laptop to my DAC, you can listen for a while, and then I’ll swap out the Belkin USB cable for the WireWorld cable that I normally use. I guarantee you’ll hear a difference, and it won’t be subtle.

  64. 64.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 1:29 am

    @Steve in DC:

    Oh, I’m not saying that area’s not more sensitive than others — I was saying that the reason no one has come up with a hair removal solution yet is probably more due to the shape and texture issues than the pain issue. Humans will put up with a remarkable amount of pain for vanity.

    ETA: Also, too, the cracking/bleeding can happen in any area. As I mentioned above, it happened on my legs when I tried chemical removers and, as a special bonus, didn’t even remove any hair! But have extremely sensitive skin in general due to rosacea/eczema issues, so I get weird rashes in places other people don’t.

  65. 65.

    freelancer

    May 1, 2012 at 1:30 am

    This thread has gone to plaid.

  66. 66.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 1:34 am

    Why are you doing sound over USB? Why not SPIDIF, HDMI, or optical? USB is shit anyways.

    Maybe your cable is damaged?

    If you’re in the area I’d take up your challenge. Personally I run all my digital audio over optical or HDMI. I’ve got a blue-ray audio player at that (on loan currently, I’m “testing it”) and optical beats the tar out of anything.

    What sort of DAC are you using?

  67. 67.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 1:36 am

    @freelancer:

    Just wait until unsuspecting East Coasters open it tomorrow morning.

    I was hoping to get a good “girls against the boys” thread going here, but I need to go sleep off the rest of this migraine before tomorrow. Good night, all.

  68. 68.

    trollhattan

    May 1, 2012 at 1:38 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    Best of luck to you all. I know very little about the goings on, but even a scant bit of knowledge leads one to understand Malaysia is not ruled with a gentle hand.

    It so happens a photo blogger I follow has a great set of images, here.

    http://robinwong.blogspot.com/2012/04/all-that-is-necessary-for-triumph-of.html

    Stay safe.

  69. 69.

    Comrade Mary

    May 1, 2012 at 1:54 am

    1) Unless you know that you’re entertaining someone who really loves luxuriant locks EVERYWHERE, both men and women should trim things down a bit.

    2) Chemical hair removers are horrible and useless even on legs. Shaving works. A little rubbing with very fine sandpaper (like, Ultra Fine 600 grit) afterwards gives you a nice polish that lasts a few hours, at least. (This advice is for legs. If any gentleman wants to try this on his sack, please provide video.)

  70. 70.

    JGabriel

    May 1, 2012 at 1:58 am

    Mnemosyne:

    Trimming is courteous (and usually painless) for everyone. It’s complete removal that’s painful, tedious and annoying, and … that’s not even getting into the itching when things start growing back, plus the lovely red bumps from the inevitable ingrown hairs. I think that was even worse than the actual removal.

    I think any guy who ever had an operation where he was shaved down there, or just did it experimentally, knows better than to ever ask a woman to go through it. I’ve suggested trimming to a few girlfriends, but I would never ask them to shave the pubic area or otherwise go bald there, for precisely the reasons you mention.

    .

  71. 71.

    eemom

    May 1, 2012 at 2:02 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    Well, this East Coaster is still up and I’d have helped you out with the girls against boys thing, except my reaction to this whole topic of discussion is just kind of eeyew, tee emm I.

    Pubic hair, people? Srsly?

  72. 72.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2012 at 2:02 am

    So far, this has been a wonderful open thread. If I ever decide to go hairless (although I can’t imagine why anyone needs to, unless one’s natural hirsuteness is evident in parts not concealed by bathing attire) I shall have had the benefit of the experience shared here.

  73. 73.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    May 1, 2012 at 2:03 am

    @eemom: This really is TMI territory.

  74. 74.

    eemom

    May 1, 2012 at 2:07 am

    …..but, if y’all INSIST, why has no one mentioned waxing? That is by far the best of all non-permanent hair removals. NO chemicals, and the longer you do it, the less hair grows back. And the hair that does grow back is sparse and not coarse.

  75. 75.

    Yutsano

    May 1, 2012 at 2:11 am

    @Amir Khalid: With any luck your genetics preclude too much hair removal. Although I confess to being stereotypical there. :)

  76. 76.

    joel hanes

    May 1, 2012 at 2:15 am

    No real audiophile setup is complete without proper attention to wall power

    But if your spouse or significant other has already installed ultra-spec cables and cryogenically-treated wall sockets, they probably still need a proper volume knob that inhibits unwanted vibrations using C37 technology. Whatever that is.

  77. 77.

    Steve in DC

    May 1, 2012 at 2:20 am

    @Amir

    I blame the metrosexual trend that cropped a few years ago.

    @joel

    Wall power isn’t that absurd, poor power can destroy equipment and you can blow fuses.

    usually though we are just talking about UPS systems though.

  78. 78.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2012 at 2:21 am

    @Yutsano:
    I’m not particularly hairy as men go, although I discovered something in my 30s that was a bit disconcerting: I had, and to this day still have, fine longish (up to half an inch) single hairs growing out of my ears. This may be due to some DNA from India or thereabouts, where hairy ears are not unheard of; an ancestor of mine was a Sri Lankan Malay.

    The discovery was made quite by accident: a colleague was taking a magnified photograph of my ear to illustrate a story on PC audio. They went with another ear model, one less hairy than me.

  79. 79.

    joel hanes

    May 1, 2012 at 2:23 am

    @burnspbesq:

    I hope you’re attempting irony here, ’cause Steve in DC is correct : digital signals either get there “well enough”, or they don’t. There’s no signal fidelity or distortion issue at all.

  80. 80.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2012 at 2:28 am

    @eemom:
    Ah, but waxing lacks the comedy potential of an innocuous-looking cream that BURNS YOUR KNOB AND BOLLOCKS.

  81. 81.

    joel hanes

    May 1, 2012 at 2:30 am

    @Steve in DC:

    wall power isn’t that absurd

    Did you click the link ?

    A UPS is one thing; I use a couple for my computers.

    Gold-plated contacts for a 110 VAC application ?
    Copper would probably serve as well, but whatever butters your muffins. (If it were a 1 VDC application, the gold might make some detectable difference)

    But a $147 wall-power receptacle with “cryogenically treated” wipers is just wanking; its primary benfit is the calibre of the mocking reviews on Amazon (to which I linked).

  82. 82.

    amk

    May 1, 2012 at 2:31 am

    @Hill Dweller: Yup, the correspondents are the ones who are propping up his show now. jon has gone all brodersque since his stupid rally.

  83. 83.

    joel hanes

    May 1, 2012 at 2:37 am

    As to the other subject of this thread:

    I was young in 1970, when styles in everything were more hirsute. I don’t recall having had a problem with that — quite the opposite, really: yet another fascinating way in which women were very different one from another.

  84. 84.

    amk

    May 1, 2012 at 2:40 am

    @burnspbesq: fuck fergie boy for botching it up. just one striker ? that too hit&miss rooney ? yeah, that’s the ticket win a do or die match. And then his antics towards the end ? fergie boy should get the fuck outta the game. retire already, you old nag.

  85. 85.

    amk

    May 1, 2012 at 2:42 am

    what a fucking hairy thread.

  86. 86.

    the fugitive uterus

    May 1, 2012 at 2:48 am

    oh those Brits, at least they can laugh at themselves whilst their balls are on fire

    welcome to the world of self hair-removal, guys! yes, you must avoid the naughty bits during application

    i read instructions.

  87. 87.

    Narcissus

    May 1, 2012 at 2:53 am

    The Romans plucked their body hair.

  88. 88.

    Yutsano

    May 1, 2012 at 3:06 am

    @Amir Khalid: Being of partially Judaic extraction, I have hair in rather interesting locations, including the ears. However I also have just enough Native American that I recover from sunburn easily and whatever hair I do have is rather fine.

  89. 89.

    Elliecat

    May 1, 2012 at 3:08 am

    I thank every deity that I came of age in a time when hanging with a left/liberal crowd meant shaving was optional and none of us ever even dreamed of removing hair from genitalia.

  90. 90.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    May 1, 2012 at 3:10 am

    @amk:

    fuck fergie boy for botching it up. just one striker ? that too hit&miss rooney ? yeah, that’s the ticket win a do or die match. And then his antics towards the end ? fergie boy should get the fuck outta the game. retire already, you old nag.

    LOL. Chav yerself out, there.

  91. 91.

    Southern Beale

    May 1, 2012 at 3:23 am

    From the link at the link:

    DO NOT PUT ON KNOB AND BOLLOCKS.

    Thank you. That line alone made my insomnia worthwhile.

  92. 92.

    Southern Beale

    May 1, 2012 at 3:28 am

    From the link at the link:

    It was as if I had lowered my under-carriage through a volcano and into Hades, whereupon Beelzebub, annoyed by the uninvited intrusion, jabbed me in the rectum with his fork.

    Who can go to sleep after reading that?

  93. 93.

    Anne Laurie

    May 1, 2012 at 3:28 am

    @Elliecat: Bless you for posting that! I feared I was the Only Living Witness…

  94. 94.

    Amir Khalid

    May 1, 2012 at 3:31 am

    This blog needs a new category: Body Hair.

  95. 95.

    Southern Beale

    May 1, 2012 at 3:41 am

    Showing once again how completely backwardsl we are, Tennessee legislators are close to passing a law expanding corporate personhood. I think all of the legislators in our state capitol need a tube of this man-hair stuff.

  96. 96.

    JGabriel

    May 1, 2012 at 5:45 am

    Amir Khalid:

    This blog needs a new category: Body Hair.

    A new TAG! Not Category! John Cole is begging you!

    On the other hand, I’m not sure we need either. It might be redundant. One could make the case that most Balloon Juice threads devolve into discussions of body hair.

    .

  97. 97.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    May 1, 2012 at 6:27 am

    These reviews are genius. I’m thinking maybe 5 of them are legit, the rest are just piling on, but either way I laughed. I laughed hard. And there actually are little fifteen dollar electric trimmers for that stuff you know. May not give an immaculate result, but no rash, no itch, and no unwanted floss for anybody that either really likes you or you spent good money paying to like you for a few minutes. No need for testicular napalm, or anything like that.

  98. 98.

    Randy P

    May 1, 2012 at 6:37 am

    Hard to say something here without giving up TMI. Let me just say to all those who say that their preferred trimming style is “obviously” the only one that ALL their sexual partners want… styles change. People are different. We are living in an era when for some reason men’s chests are supposed to be bare, but not so long ago the romance novels (I am told by wifey and daughter) described “thick mats of chest hair” and young teenage boys were dying to see their own chest hair start sprouting.

    Daughter was amused that those same novels where the prose featured hairy-chested men, usually had bare-chested men on the cover.

  99. 99.

    Valdivia

    May 1, 2012 at 6:45 am

    @eemom:

    Exactly. Waxing is the thing. Chemicals. Yikes.

  100. 100.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 1, 2012 at 7:33 am

    What the hell is wrong with you people? This was a perfectly decent thread about not putting products on your knob and bollocks and you had to go and ruin it. This is why we can’t have nice thing.

  101. 101.

    kdaug

    May 1, 2012 at 7:47 am

    What happens if you put Veet For Men on speaker cables?

  102. 102.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 1, 2012 at 7:54 am

    @kdaug: Bare wires.

  103. 103.

    the fugitive uterus

    May 1, 2012 at 8:06 am

    @Randy P: i agree, i think it’s total BS – what’s wrong with a little natural? you can trim it, you don’t have to rip it all off. i’ve tried that (bikini area) and it was HORRIBLE, i mean excrutiating! – i was crying and shaking at the end. i like chest hair. my bf doesn’t have any, i don’t give a shit. i love him. people really need to relax. the American male would be screaming and crying, almost unintelligibly, about suing and/or doing bodily harm to the maker of the product.

    those reviews, however, are so consistently hilarious that i wonder if they were all written by the same person – but the Brits are so self-deprecating, bless them for that.

  104. 104.

    kdaug

    May 1, 2012 at 8:09 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Do they short out, or cry?

  105. 105.

    Thymezone

    May 1, 2012 at 8:22 am

    When you get your eighth year of inexplicably hanging around a blog, certain thoughts start to pop up in your brain, like blisters.

    On some days, just dragging one’s consciousness from one article to another on this front page is physically painful, the drag, the weight of same-old-same-old dreary same-old starts to feel like pulling the weight of the world behind you, like some kind of Jack LaLanne stunt, pulling a 747 across the taxiway using only his legs, and a harness buckled to his torso, each step sending searing pain through his entire body, the great airplane moving perhaps an inch or two with each mighty effort, the crowd roaring with each budge.

    Today is one of those days.

    Is that thing really moving? Don’t lie to me.

  106. 106.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 1, 2012 at 8:32 am

    @kdaug: How would I know? I am not an electrician.

  107. 107.

    kdaug

    May 1, 2012 at 8:42 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think they’d weep a little, but they’d try to be strong. A speaker wire has a job to do, after all.

  108. 108.

    PIGL

    May 1, 2012 at 9:11 am

    @Steve in DC: “I demand a clean crotch, but I also trim myself.”

    Allow me to translate: “all my sexual relationships are mediated entirely through cheap on-line porn or a credit card.”

    Christ on a sidecar, how is it possible for any conscious entity to be this big of an asshole?

  109. 109.

    jon

    May 1, 2012 at 9:24 am

    I still don’t understand the hate people have for hairless genitals. In a world with tattoos, thong underwear, rubber clogs, pierced anythings, and anal bleaching, it seems quaintly modest in comparison. It’s fashion. People argue all sorts of dangers and benefits, but it’s just fashion.

  110. 110.

    Narcissus

    May 1, 2012 at 11:11 am

    Some fashion is approved, and some is not.

  111. 111.

    joel hanes

    May 1, 2012 at 11:47 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    For a definitive answer, I guess we’ll just have to wait for the electrician, or someone like him.

  112. 112.

    Catsy

    May 1, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    @Valdivia:

    You know there is an old yiddish paper printed in nyc. the name of this paper is…… The Forward.
    __
    I guess anyone using that word is an evil comunist!

    Or a Jewey-Jew, which is the same thing!

    /snark (for the humor-impaired)

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