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You are here: Home / Gotta have some of your attention, give it to me

Gotta have some of your attention, give it to me

by DougJ|  April 30, 20128:11 pm| 130 Comments

This post is in: Both Sides Do It!, Our Failed Media Experiment

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Via reader D and many others, no one could have predicted that even a liberal former Republican (and svengali to closet case Republican Senatorial candidate Michael Huffington) turned pageview pimp would back Mitt Romney:

“I think it’s one thing to celebrate the fact that they did such a great job. It’s one thing to have an NBC special from the Situation Room,” the media mogul (Arianna Huffington) said on “CBS This Morning.” “All that, to me, is perfectly legitimate. But to turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do.”

The thing is this: one of the big foreign policy differences between Obama and McCain was Obama’s belief in going into Pakistan to get Al Qaeda. Given the civilians who died in drone strikes and the fact that I don’t know how important killing Osama bin Laden was, I’m not sure who I agree with in retrospect.

But saying that a Republican president wouldn’t have gone into Pakistan to kill Osama bin Laden…well, that’s probably true. If you can’t accept that, you’re calling war hero John McCain a liar, you tree-hugging punk. He said he wouldn’t do it, and I take him at his word.

Arianna just likes attention. That’s why I don’t read HuffPost, and it’s why I don’t listen to anything she says. It’s great that she pulls more pageviews than Drudge, but she lost me at the vaccines cause autism, if not earlier.

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  1. 1.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 30, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    She lost me when she opened her mouth. Her voice grates.

  2. 2.

    BruceFromOhio

    April 30, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    That’s why I don’t read HuffPost

    Funny that. I stopped reading it because every time I did, brain cells died, and I didn’t even get high.

  3. 3.

    DougJ, Head of Infidelity

    April 30, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    I like her crazy accent.

  4. 4.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    I do love how touting a successful assassination to get yourself re-elected is somehow more despicable than using footage from 9/11 to the same end.

    Whassamatta, Arianna, upset that your team got shown up as the incompetents they are just when you though they could turn it around and you could go back?

  5. 5.

    Villago Delenda Est

    April 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    There you go. If you got high, you’d get something out of those brain cells dying. Arianna doesn’t even give you that.

    Backing Rmoney. This sin is unforgivable. Her tumbrel reservation is confirmed.

  6. 6.

    poco

    April 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    I am still boycotting HuffPo, and totally digged Obama’s ding at Arianna for getting her content for free, but celebration of death is not something that gets me all excited. YMMV

  7. 7.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @DougJ, Head of Infidelity: Its not just the accent that is crazy.

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    April 30, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    She’s probably just in a snit because Obama (accurately) mocked the HuffPo model at the correspondents dinner thing over the weekend.

  9. 9.

    lol

    April 30, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    There’s no shortage of hand-wringing on the left about this as well. No wonder they’ve been lost in the fucking wilderness – they’re too proud to take credit for any accomplishment.

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    April 30, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Whassamatta, Arianna, upset that your team got shown up as the incompetents they are just when you though they could turn it around and you could go back?

    Nah, I think she’s upset that Obama made fun of her at the WHCD, so she’s being mean to him to return the favor. Like a perfect Villager, putting pique above principle.

  11. 11.

    ant

    April 30, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    Obama need to bring back that terror color alert thing.

    n crank the colors up every time ariana open her mouth.

  12. 12.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Obama should receive his due. He couldn’t be sure it was OBL What if SEALS were killed?
    It was a decisive, and correct action, and don’t tell me Dubya wouldn’t strut like a peacock.

  13. 13.

    lol

    April 30, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    Also, can anyone explain where the “fear-mongering” or “celebration” is in the ad?

    Edit: Josh Marshall got it exactly right that the Villagers are unused to a Democrat throwing punches instead of meekly being on the receiving end of an attack. Democrats have to play by different rules and we’re seeing that now.

  14. 14.

    dr. luba

    April 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    I gave up on the Huffington Post shortly after it came on line. Just one look into the so-called “health” section, a morass of quackery and anti-vaccinationism, was enough for me.

    And making millions while paying your “correspondents” nothing? Such a class act.

  15. 15.

    Baud

    April 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    When you’ve lost Arianna, you’ve lost almost no one else in America.

  16. 16.

    dmsilev

    April 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Also, too,

    She added: “There is no way to know whether Romney would’ve been as decisive. And to actually speculate that he wouldn’t be is, to me, not the way to run campaigns on either side.”

    Actually we do know what Romney would have done, because back in 2007-2008 he told us what he would do and not do. Specifically, he stated that sending a strike force into Pakistan was absolutely off the table.

    So, unless Ms. Huffington wants to argue that Romney doesn’t mean a single word that comes out of his mouth (and granted, there is some slight bit of evidence for that particular viewpoint), he wouldn’t have ordered that mission. And it’s absolutely positively fair for Obama and his campaign to point that out.

  17. 17.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @poco:

    It’s not the death, it’s the hypocrisy. The same people who proudly touted their failure to prevent 9/11 as their shining moment are now whining that it’s not fair that Obama gets to talk about assassinating the architect of 9/11.

    Commentary from the link:

    Note that in Romney World, he gets to go after the President on Iraq, Afghanistan, Russia, etc… and it’s only when the President turns around and criticizes him that it becomes “playing politics.”

  18. 18.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    April 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    @Ben Franklin: Danger Monkey woulda snorkled in to an aircraft carrier and paraded around in a SEAL outfit under a MISSION ACCOMPLISHED AGAIN banner.

  19. 19.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    April 30, 2012 at 8:26 pm

    I don’t know how important killing Osama bin Laden was

    He was still planning and organizing, and he had been successful enough to launch a major attack. Killing him removes that icon.

    From the point of view of getting out of Afghanistan, it allows parts of the country to be turned over to the Taliban, which while sucking for the people there, means we’re out of the nation-building that the right used to hate.

    Semi-OT, did anyone else read this about Obama’s use of the military.

  20. 20.

    4tehlulz

    April 30, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @dmsilev: SLANDER! ARIANA WOULD NEVER STOOP SO LOW AND PAY THE WORKERS.

  21. 21.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @lol:

    Also, can anyone explain where the “fear-mongering” or “celebration” is in the ad?

    The mere fact that Obama succeeded where Bush failed is by definition fearmongering and celebration.
    /wingnut

  22. 22.

    Bruce S

    April 30, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    “unless Ms. Huffington wants to argue that Romney doesn’t mean a single word that comes out of his mouth (and granted, there is some slight bit of evidence for that particular viewpoint)”

    “slight?”

    That’s a joke, right?

  23. 23.

    MikeJ

    April 30, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @lol:

    There’s no shortage of hand-wringing on the left about this as well.

    Yeah but the left whines if we get out of bed in the morning[1]. Any sort of fighting back shows we’re “sinking to their level.”

    Fuck the left. Buncha pussies.

    My favourite thing about this action is that the military advised Obama not to do it. Wanted the safe option, just bombing. Obama acted like the president when he told Gates how it was gonna be. None of this Republican “always listen to the military” shit.

    [1] I’m sure there would be complaints of John & Yoko style grandstanding if we stayed in bed.

  24. 24.

    Hill Dweller

    April 30, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    McGramps and Willard are boxed in. They’re both on record saying they wouldn’t go into Pakistan(and attacking Obama for saying he would). Obama just has to keep reminding the press/public of that fact.

  25. 25.

    Mike G

    April 30, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    Repukes were happier having bin Laden as a shadowy bogeyman out there somewhere, to justify all manner of adventurism and fearmongering.

    As for Arianna, I remember her spolit society bitch behavior when I lived in her closeted husband-puppet’s congressional district – a shallower, more media-grandstanding piece of social-climbing trash I have never seen.

  26. 26.

    Jebediah

    April 30, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    I think the Huffpoop business model has been around a while. I just read an article in Motorcyclist magazine about a woman who was, for a bit, the (uncredited) editor of the same mag in the late ’40s. Her husband wanted to add road tests to the magazine and had located a suitable test rider (Pee Wee Cullum.) The publisher squashed the idea by refusing to pay Cullum, claiming he should be happy just to have his name in print. (Cullum was a popular speedway racer at the time, so was probably already familiar with the sensation of having his name in print.)

  27. 27.

    MikeJ

    April 30, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @Hill Dweller: I like the TP hed: Obama Defends Attack On Romney: ‘I Assumed’ He Meant It When He Said He Wouldn’t Get Bin Laden

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    April 30, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Bruce S: I’m in training for the Understatement Olympics.

  29. 29.

    Jebediah

    April 30, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    don’t tell me Dubya wouldn’t strut like a peacock.

    They would have declared a national holiday with parades featuring big papier-mache Dubya’s.
    Disingenuous turd-fuckers.

  30. 30.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    @Mike G:

    Central Coast/ San Luis Obispo?

  31. 31.

    chopper

    April 30, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    i do love how the goopers are flipping their shit. he’s politicizing bin laden’s death! meanwhile bush lands a plane on a carrier to declare ‘mission accomplished’ in front of 2 thousand cameras and their underwear gets all sticky.

  32. 32.

    bemused

    April 30, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    OT, in an earlier thread someone mentioned Paul Krugman and Ron Paul would be having a discussion on Bloomberg TV today. I hoped there would be video of that and it’s already on youtube. Krugman was supposed to host the whole 3? hours which I will watch when time allows. I don’t know how long he and Paul chat. Ron Paul cultists were already confident Ron Paul would make Krugman cry.

  33. 33.

    chopper

    April 30, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    and as to huffington, this is the broad that once went on teevee to advise the president to let out his inner Angry Black Man.

    she’s america’s biggest concern troll. if she tells obama he should be doing one thing, he should be doing the opposite.

  34. 34.

    Lojasmo

    April 30, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @MikeJ:

    And, iirc, the CoTJCoS said it was as if Obama was the adult in the room. How he operates is awe inspiring.

  35. 35.

    Raven

    April 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    She’s so special. . .

  36. 36.

    Ben Cisco

    April 30, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    If we had a competent media instead of the FerengiMedia™ we’re stuck with, every time one of these jackwagons opened their pie hole to lie about what the Republicans would have done, there would be an immediate cut to three clips:

    One of Bush saying he wasn’t truly concerned about getting bin Laden.

    One of Grandpa Walnuts saying that he wouldn’t go into Pakistan to get bin Laden.

    One of RomTron3000’s ORIGINAL stance on the matter.

    GAME. OVER.

  37. 37.

    Ash Can

    April 30, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Arianna is pathetic. These people have sweet fuck-all.

  38. 38.

    chopper

    April 30, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @bemused:

    jesus. k-thug is a nobel prize winning economist and he’s on TV having an economic discussion with…ron fucking paul?

    it’s like thurgood marshall having a televised debate with glenn greenwald. ugh.

  39. 39.

    Southern Beale

    April 30, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    This whole Dana Loesch-Twitter-gasm thing is just .. just … fucking stupid.

    Amazing. It’s all about them, isn’t it? They’re legends in their own mind.

    But what I’ve learned is that the Junior Breitbarts troll the internet like nobody’s business. I guess they need a life.

  40. 40.

    Keith

    April 30, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    I would say that it’s not as despicable as using a flag-draped body from 9/11 in your campaign ad.

  41. 41.

    schrodinger's cat

    April 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    Keeping Bin Laden alive provided GWB the rationale to continue the War On Terror, indefinitely. These so called progressives like Arianna want Obama to fight with one hand behind his back.

  42. 42.

    jwb

    April 30, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @bemused: Krugman has a brief account of the “debate” and link to the video on his blog.

  43. 43.

    Hill Dweller

    April 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    In other news, the Obama campaign is going up with a new ad in Ohio, Iowa and Virginia tomorrow. The title of the ad is ‘Swiss Bank Account’.

    They aren’t f’n around.

  44. 44.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    it’s like thurgood marshall having a televised debate with glenn greenwald. ugh.

    I think that would be exculpatory, and interesting.

  45. 45.

    Bruce S

    April 30, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    “I’m training for the understatement Olympics”

    That’s an understatememt.

  46. 46.

    Dave

    April 30, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Killing Obl and bragging about it is just purely good politics.

    Arianna huffington, I mean, if you have read huffpo for more than ten minutes, ever, you’re a tasteless buffoon.

  47. 47.

    dmsilev

    April 30, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Hill Dweller: How very uncivil and non-bipartisan and shrill of them.

  48. 48.

    aimai

    April 30, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    The threat level went to blackity black black black as soon as Obama was elected and has never gone down below Elmo/Red since, as far as the Republicans are concerned.

    aimai

  49. 49.

    Baud

    April 30, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @dmsilev: It’s unseemly and unprecedented for the Democratic nominee to take sides in an election.

  50. 50.

    ruemara

    April 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    I still have my Arianna for gov buttons and signage. It reminds me to never take any supposed left leaning conversion case seriously without seeing if they practice what they preach. Fuck her.

  51. 51.

    poco

    April 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah, I totally get that—just not happy that the playing field we are given is not a particularly good one. OTOH if we can be the Daddy Party for once….

  52. 52.

    Ken

    April 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @Jebediah: They would have declared a national holiday with parades featuring big papier-mache Dubya’s.

    “Would have”? Right after OBL’s death, a fair number of that crowd tried to claim the credit should got to Dubya’s policies.

  53. 53.

    Anya

    April 30, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    Where’s anonymous when you need them? Why can’t they hack Huffpuff’s email.

    @DougJ, Head of Infidelity: but the annoying voice comes with the crazy accent.

  54. 54.

    dr. bloor

    April 30, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    Pfft. File this under “Death of Breitbart, and other events that 99.9999% of all Americans will ignore.” Intertubes junkies really need to get over themselves sometimes.

  55. 55.

    danimal

    April 30, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    I think it’s safe to say that Obama’s campaign will ignore Ariana’s helpful advice. Carry on.

  56. 56.

    bemused

    April 30, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    @chopper:

    Heh, but no worse than what Krugman has to deal with every time he appears on the so very serious Sunday talk show panels. I feel for him. He always looks so exasperated. Who wouldn’t with trying to debate George Will and that crowd.

    @jwb:

    Thanks.

  57. 57.

    DougJ, Head of Infidelity

    April 30, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    Good for them. You fuck with me, I put my foot in your ass.

  58. 58.

    Billy Rae Valentine

    April 30, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    paul krugamn vs. ron paul on bloomberg tv today. figured you guys would be all over this.

  59. 59.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    @poco:

    What’s the old cliche? You play on the playing field you have, not the one you want to have. It would be nice to have an actual rational discussion about the US’s place in the world and what actions we should take given our outsized power compared to everyone else, but Romney and the Republicans aren’t capable of having that discussion.

    For example, I am of the opinion that Obama’s actions in Libya were calculated just right (ie acting as part of a UN-approved coalition that was led by other NATO members) but I know that people who lean more towards pacifism hate any military action by the US at all, so it’s a tough needle to thread for any Democrat.

  60. 60.

    Baud

    April 30, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    @DougJ, Head of Infidelity:

    You fuck with me, I put my foot in your ass.

    By October, that will be the Obama campaign’s official slogan.

  61. 61.

    Davis X. Machina

    April 30, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    The ‘Obama’s politicizing OBL’s death’ is annoying and predictable.

    Me, I’m waiting for the GOP to embrace “It was a gross violation of OBL’s due-process rights. He should have been haled before the a US court, or in a pinch, the ICC instead. Rule of law.”

    That would have novelty value.

  62. 62.

    Mickey

    April 30, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Arianna Fluffington is still a Republican. Always has been!

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Gotta say, that was a Thing of Beauty he did there.

  64. 64.

    redshirt

    April 30, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    @Mike G: Indeed. The “Goldstein” character is an excellent tool for the control of the scared, riled up masses. That’s why you’re not supposed to kill your Goldstein.

    Another Obambi mistake!

  65. 65.

    dmsilev

    April 30, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    @Baud: It’s “Chicago style” politics…

  66. 66.

    Silver

    April 30, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    @chopper:

    He needs to take a page out of the scientists’ handbook for not debating creationists.

    That looks better on Ron Paul’s CV than Krugman’s.

  67. 67.

    Baud

    April 30, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @dmsilev: Sounds good to me.

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    @Baud:
    Heh

  69. 69.

    dmsilev

    April 30, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @redshirt: Wasn’t’ one of our resident morons claiming the other day that we couldn’t be sure that Osama was *really* dead because Obama wouldn’t release the photographic evidence? Maybe Goldstein lives on…

  70. 70.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    April 30, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @aimai: As mad as I am at Huffnpuff’s jackassery, that still made me laugh. Nice.

  71. 71.

    redshirt

    April 30, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @dmsilev: Don’t fret! We’ll make a new one. :)

    Also, about the no photograph thing, I was thinking: What if Bush were President and killed OBL just as now, and also did not release any photos. Would I trust the Government’s version of events 100%? I’m not sure a I would.

    So I try to be patient with this new conspiracy theory and its theorists, as it’s based on “concealment of evidence”. It might be possible to prove to such a person that the facts support the case. Possible, but not likely.

  72. 72.

    Roger Moore

    April 30, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @aimai:
    Where would you like your internets delivered?

  73. 73.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    @redshirt:

    OK, I give. Are you talking Jeff Goldstein (whom I call ‘Goldbrick’) of PW or..?

  74. 74.

    El Cid

    April 30, 2012 at 9:11 pm

    Yes, yes, good thing Republicans didn’t get all political about 9/11.

  75. 75.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    I’m not sure if I’m more embarrassed for you or for whatever schools you went to that never exposed you to it.

    Nineteen Eighty-Four.

  76. 76.

    Hill Dweller

    April 30, 2012 at 9:14 pm

    @dmsilev:

    It’s “Chicago style” politics…

    The pit bull joke at the WHCD had a ‘yeah, I ate dog, fuck you!’ quality to it.

  77. 77.

    General Stuck

    April 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    We’ve come full circle with the political nuttery giving itself mutual reach arounds for whatever the cool thing is at any given moment. Not only did Obama do precisely what he said he would do in the campaign of 2008, he did it when many of his own inner dem circle thought it too pol risky to poll vault into Pakistan, in the middle of that countries ruling elite, that just happened to be where OBL was hiding.

    The republicans under GWB, got bored quickly with hunting ObL and finishing what they started in Afghanistan, for a new adventure in Iraq, to avenge George’s daddy, to prove once and for all what a badass the Bush’s are.

    And in the process sent the very resources needed to catch or kill Bin Laden into Iraq, with GEorge telling the world he wasn’t that concerned with OBL, something Romney parroted in 2008. And now these cheese dick motherfuckers want to claim the mantle of Obama finishing what these wingnuts started. I don’t think so, and all the wingnuts can do is put up another clown with daddy issues to walk down that road to hell again? Fuck em sideways.

    If you want to think the voters will buy this shit, go ahead, but pick your flavor of kool aid now, cause that is the current equation in our national politics. All or nothing. I’m not over confident, because being wrong will likely be the end of this country as it has been. There is no other way to process the truth or consequence of that, imho.

  78. 78.

    redshirt

    April 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Ben Franklin: “1984” man. If you’ve never read it, go do so as soon as you can.

  79. 79.

    Roger Moore

    April 30, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Ben Franklin:
    Emmanuel Goldstein from 1984.

  80. 80.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @redshirt:

    It’s been 40 years. Time to re-read.

  81. 81.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Yes, yes. Your input is always, a most valuable asset.

  82. 82.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    Since Australia’s copyright laws are different than those in the US, you can download Orwell’s books at Project Gutenberg Australia:

    gutenberg.net.au/plusfifty-n-z.html#orwell

    No excuses.

  83. 83.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    I know, so mean of me to bring up a book that’s been constantly referenced, parodied, and discussed since the day of its publication in 1949. I mean, really, how could I possibly expect anyone who claims to be interested in politics to have heard of a book so obscure?

  84. 84.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    No excuses.

    Don’t fuck with me, Falstaff.

  85. 85.

    karen marie

    April 30, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    @bemused: I wouldn’t bet against it but not for the same reason as the Paultards.

  86. 86.

    poco

    April 30, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah–its a horrible needle to thread–and I have no desire to feature as a concern troll– ’cause I actually do think that Obama is doing a pretty terrific job, but being forced by Republican policies to brag about killing OBL, now that is a pretty bad playing field! All this to say, what BJ says everyday–its a horrible position to be in; I want to rah rah the good stuff but the way the Villagers and Repukes play it, I am forced (and not liking it) to rah rah the stuff I find distasteful.

  87. 87.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    Yes, I’m terrified of the political acumen of someone who admits to making shit up so he can play intellectual “what if?” games. Scaaaary.

  88. 88.

    billiecat

    April 30, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    Concern troll Arianna is concern trolling. /ignore

  89. 89.

    Valdivia

    April 30, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    Am I imagining this is a The Wire reference?

    and FTR I can’t stand Arianna.

  90. 90.

    Jebediah

    April 30, 2012 at 9:29 pm

    @Ken:
    Point taken.

  91. 91.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    @poco:

    All this to say, what BJ says everyday—its a horrible position to be in; I want to rah rah the good stuff but the way the Villagers and Repukes play it, I am forced (and not liking it) to rah rah the stuff I find distasteful.

    I can see that. I don’t want to rah-rah about OBL’s death, but I can’t say I’m sorry that he’s gone and won’t be able hurt anyone else. And it sounds as though the raid was professional enough that a minimum number of people were killed or injured, so I think we can tout that aspect with a clear conscience. There’s something to be said for taking out the bad guy while minimizing the damage to everyone else in the bad guy’s vicinity.

    But, all things considered, I’d rather rah-rah about the end of DADT and how much good the PPACA has done than the death of one admittedly bad guy.

  92. 92.

    RalfW

    April 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    Siad plenty upthread, but obviously she has terminal butthurt that Obama’s WHCD routine called out HuffPo thusly “There is no one else out there linking to the kinds of hard hitting journalism that HufPo is linking to every single day.”

    So she’ll back Mitt because, like so many in the DC village, her skin is porcelain thin.

  93. 93.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I mean, really, how could I possibly expect anyone who claims to be interested in politics to have heard of a book so obscure?

    OK, hotshot. You’ve had your fun. Your obtuse analytical skills are your greatest strength.

    Your appearance generally corresponds to the winding down of a thread. You arrange your
    comments to reflect a superior moral and intelletual position, which purports to be a kind of ombudsman for vertias yet you rarely add anything except grammatical critique, or minutiae you can trollop with your forcefed intellect.

    Your identity is quite verklempt.with the lack of attention you received as a child prodigy (of your own definition) with some promise, had it not been for the outlandish narcissim

  94. 94.

    karen marie

    April 30, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    @Ken: They still pop up occasionally to make that claim.

  95. 95.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    Aww, I’m glad you follow me so closely. Appearing towards the ends of threads is unfortunately the curse of living in the Pacific time zone when most of the posters and commenters are on the East Coast. By the time I’m able to get to the site, most of the conversation is already past.

    And I wouldn’t say I was a child prodigy. I was a pretty smart kid, but in retrospect I was handicapped by the ADHD that wasn’t diagnosed until recently.

    I don’t think I’m any more narcissistic than you are, so take that as you will.

    ETA: And the more I type, the more ironic the post title becomes to me, so I’m going to knock off the taunting for now. Apologies for the derail.

  96. 96.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    “Appearing towards the ends of threads is unfortunately the curse of living in the Pacific time zone when most of the posters and commenters are on the East Coast. By the time I’m able to get to the site, most of the conversation is already past.”

    I can smell the execrable bullshit over the internet. I, too, am on the West Coast, but that’s not the issue, is it?

    I keep trying to tell you not to fuck with me.

  97. 97.

    chopper

    April 30, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    dogg, you looked like a fool and got called out. happens to everyone. no need to shit yourself.

  98. 98.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    What, you’re going to expose me as secretly being a secretary at a large entertainment company who spends too much time on the internet at work? Too late for that, I’m afraid.

    ETA: And, sure, you can try to get me fired from my job for spending too much time on the internet at work, but that’s a little petty even for you, isn’t it?

  99. 99.

    Paula

    April 30, 2012 at 9:50 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Interesting that some of the “reader’s picks” comments are split — between those who think the editorial is laudatory and those who think it’s insulting.

    I don’t know what to make of it, myself. Barack Obama is, again, doing exactly as he said he would in the campaign in terms of foreign policy. Having it all laid out in one article just makes more obvious.

  100. 100.

    Ben Franklin

    April 30, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    @chopper:

    I got called out, and answered. The shitstain is MadameLangsyne.

  101. 101.

    slag

    April 30, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @poco: Yeah. But that ad wasn’t exactly a rah rah ad. It was a resume line ad. It made the case–almost devoid of rah rahs–for the OBL decision. And presented a perfectly legitimate point of contrast with Romney. It wasn’t saying “YAY US”, it was saying, “This is how we make decisions”. It left it up to you to decide whether or not you prefer the Obama way of making decisions.

  102. 102.

    OzoneR

    April 30, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    @MikeJ:

    I like the TP hed: Obama Defends Attack On Romney: ‘I Assumed’ He Meant It When He Said He Wouldn’t Get Bin Laden

    i’m sure in a week when polls show this is a liability to Obama because 56% of Americans think he’s wrongly using Bin Laden to win reelection, the lefty blogsphere will tell us how Obama never defended himself or used the bully pulpit and let it happen to him.

  103. 103.

    xian

    April 30, 2012 at 9:59 pm

    @DougJ, Head of Infidelity: I liked her on Green Acres

  104. 104.

    amk

    April 30, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    No one more madder than the bitch scorned. Especially in public. Fuck’er.

  105. 105.

    Donald G

    April 30, 2012 at 10:07 pm

    Oh, come now dahlink, we must simply accept that since Zsa-Zsa is richer and more successful than the revolting peasants who support him, that the leader of the free world must kow-tow to her.

    Making a joke about Arianna Huffington at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner might embolden the proles to show flagrant disrespect Sally Quinn’s dinner parties, and the social order will be overturned and then the Republic will fall and we’ll have anarchy in the streets.

    Next thing you know, the Romney’s won’t be able to strap dogs atop the presidential limousine, and then, where will we be?

  106. 106.

    slag

    April 30, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    In my ideal world, threads that involve women being idiots would never include the word bitch. Asshole/dumbass/jerkwad/scumsucking dirtbag, even. But not the b-word and certainly not the c-word or t-word.

    A girl can dream.

  107. 107.

    BruceFromOhio

    April 30, 2012 at 10:18 pm

    A girl can dream.

    Gaia be damned, this is another one of those so-full-of-win threads. I love these.

  108. 108.

    Ed in NJ

    April 30, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    @Paula:

    I look at this whole thing much differently. The OBL ad is the second part of an ongoing strategy. First the Auto Industry bailout ads, while pointing out Obama’s accomplishments, more importantly remind people that those decisions would not have been made under a Republican administration. There is the added bonus that it forces Romney to back up his previous words, instead of using his campaign Etch-A-Sketch.

  109. 109.

    kindness

    April 30, 2012 at 10:39 pm

    This whole thing fits the Republican election pattern.

    Attrition and death of 1000 cuts. Even in Democratic victory push a meme to change the subject and Rovianly turn a Democratic victory on it’s head and present it as defeat. Do this for every single thing over 4 years and the populace doesn’t like anyone.

    Republicans gain. What kills me is the MSM is smart enough to see this and know the steps and the game yet they deny it. The MSM, they’ve sold themselves secretly & publicly to the other team & now play for them.

  110. 110.

    amk

    April 30, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    @kindness: Not gonna work this time.

  111. 111.

    lol

    April 30, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    @OzoneR:

    All the while half the lefty blogosphere is hand-wringing over descending to the Republicans’ level and how this EXACTLY THE SAME as Bush’s fear mongering campaign in 2004 because Obama has nothing to run on.

    This is an argument articulated to me by an actual “liberal” who supports Obama. It’s amazing we win anything with allies like this.

  112. 112.

    RalfW

    April 30, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @kindness: I’d say they openly prostituted themselves, at least some of them, to the dark side. It’s fascinating (in a queasy-ing sort of way) how when major media began experiencing the sorts of industry and job upheavals that average workers and small-to-midsize businesses have been experiencing for decades under GOP “free markets” the media response was to cozy up to the perpetrators rather than identifying with the afflicted.

    Kinda turns the whole notion of journalism on it’s ear, no?

  113. 113.

    David Koch

    April 30, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    i get a kick outta how some lefties still defend the vapid Arianna

  114. 114.

    Mnemosyne

    April 30, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    @xian:

    Hey, now, Eva was the Gabor sister who actually had some talent. (She was also the voice of Miss Bianca in one of my favorite Disney movies, The Rescuers.)

    Zsa Zsa, on the other hand, was the star of Queen of Outer Space and, like Arianna, was more famous for being famous than for any actual accomplishments.

  115. 115.

    karen marie

    April 30, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    @Ben Franklin: I recommend listening to it on Recorded Books. It’s like a horror movie when read aloud.

  116. 116.

    Yutsano

    April 30, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Eva had acting chops. Zsa Zsa married well. That’s the difference right there.

  117. 117.

    kc

    May 1, 2012 at 12:12 am

    Read the linked blog. Then I read the Politici article the blog linked to. Nowhere did I see anything saying she’s actually backing Romney.

  118. 118.

    Mnemosyne

    May 1, 2012 at 12:22 am

    @kc:

    Saying that it’s “despicable” to run an ad bashing Romney is not backing Romney?

    Here’s the quote (via ThinkProgress):

    I agree completely — I agree with the Romney campaign. I think that using the Osama bin Laden assassination, killing the great news that we had a year ago in order to say basically that Obama did it and Romney might not have done it, which is the message. … I don’t think there should be an ad about that. … [T]o turn it into a campaign ad is one of the most despicable things you can do. It’s the same thing that Hillary Clinton did with the 3 a.m. call. You know, you are not ready to be commander-in-chief. […]

    It’s pretty hard to claim you “agree completely” with one candidate’s claim and then turn around and endorse the other candidate, but I’m sure Arianna will figure out a way to do it. She’s always been good at bullshitting people.

  119. 119.

    LosGatosCA

    May 1, 2012 at 1:09 am

    Ariana Huffington is Andrew Sullivan in drag with a fake accent and $300M in the bank.

  120. 120.

    Kane

    May 1, 2012 at 1:29 am

    Arianna has criticized President Obama throughout his presidency. It’s become her shtick. The media presents her as a liberal, then she fires away at Obama and it gets her attention as the media offers the narrative that even the liberal Arianna is disgruntled with Obama.

    But her criticism is oftentimes nothing more than petty nit-picking. Instead of expressing differences on policy and substance in areas of importance, the overwhelming focus tends to be on trivial and petty matters revolving around the president’s personality. Obama is too aloof, Obama didn’t show an adequate level of public anger. She even criticized Obama’s Oval office decor as “the Audacity of Taupe.”

    And has no shame as she omits facts and inconvenient truths. In her criticism of Obama, she often fails to even mention the role of republicans. In fact, her criticism of Republicans has been virtually nonexistent.

  121. 121.

    Death Panel Truck

    May 1, 2012 at 1:37 am

    A racist moment from an otherwise classic sitcom:

    Oliver: “Do you know how many musicians you need for a symphony orchestra? At least a hundred and ten. There aren’t that many people in Hooterville!”
    Lisa: “Well?
    Oliver: “Well, where you gonna get ’em?”
    Lisa: “Ain’t you ever hear of wetbacks?”

    I hear Lisa Douglas calling “Olivah!” everytime I hear that wretched Arianna open her mouth.

  122. 122.

    AxelFoley

    May 1, 2012 at 1:39 am

    @lol:

    There’s no shortage of hand-wringing on the left about this as well. No wonder they’ve been lost in the fucking wilderness – they’re too proud to take credit for any accomplishment.

    This.

  123. 123.

    AxelFoley

    May 1, 2012 at 1:42 am

    @dmsilev:

    Actually we do know what Romney would have done, because back in 2007-2008 he told us what he would do and not do. Specifically, he stated that sending a strike force into Pakistan was absolutely off the table.
    So, unless Ms. Huffington wants to argue that Romney doesn’t mean a single word that comes out of his mouth (and granted, there is some slight bit of evidence for that particular viewpoint), he wouldn’t have ordered that mission. And it’s absolutely positively fair for Obama and his campaign to point that out.

    This².

  124. 124.

    AxelFoley

    May 1, 2012 at 1:48 am

    @Ben Cisco:

    If we had a competent media instead of the FerengiMedia™ we’re stuck with, every time one of these jackwagons opened their pie hole to lie about what the Republicans would have done, there would be an immediate cut to three clips:
    One of Bush saying he wasn’t truly concerned about getting bin Laden.
    One of Grandpa Walnuts saying that he wouldn’t go into Pakistan to get bin Laden.
    One of RomTron3000’s ORIGINAL stance on the matter.
    GAME. OVER.

    Listen to the Emissary, for he is wise.

  125. 125.

    Joey Maloney

    May 1, 2012 at 2:23 am

    I couldn’t get that Bloomberg video to play on Mac, so I had to fire up my ancient Windows box to see it. Within two minutes I was heartily sorry I’d bothered.

  126. 126.

    AnotherBruce

    May 1, 2012 at 2:56 am

    @lol: Oh please do point out all these fifth columnists on the lefty blogosphere. It ought to be easy to come up examples since half of it and your anecdotal friend are complaining about how mean Obama is being to Romney.

    Bullshit, a lot of you fuckers remind me of the blue dogs and other centrists out there, whining about how mean the left is. And yes, Arianna Huffington is a piece of shit and always has been. I just don’t know how she gets defined as “the left”. I must have missed her socialist screeds and passionate avocation for taxing the wealthy.

  127. 127.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    May 1, 2012 at 5:13 am

    @DougJ, Head of Infidelity:

    When she talks she sounds like Zsa Zsa Gabor…

    if Zsa Zsa was drunk out of her gourd and shooting heroin.

    @Baud:

    When you’ve lost Arianna, you’ve lost almost no one else in America Arianna.

    And that’s about it.

  128. 128.

    Patricia Kayden

    May 1, 2012 at 7:02 am

    Who needs Huffington Post, when you have Balloon Juice, Little Green Footballs and Joe My God? Like Repubs never used wars to self-hype. Right!

  129. 129.

    gaz

    May 1, 2012 at 7:48 am

    I stopped reading HuffPo when they made their first paid piece -provided to IBM. It was an insipid little number whereby some paid IBM stooge wrote about how IBM was going to use high tech wizardry to keep tabs on all of us. To keep us safe. Presumably by installing tracking devices in our rectums, or something to that effect. It pissed me off something fierce. Haven’t been back since.

  130. 130.

    Kay

    May 1, 2012 at 9:23 am

    I think she’s amazingly horrible, because she’s basically co-opted the people who might have been her critics by hiring them.

    I think the big names that she (actually) pays on that site, from both Right, Left and Libertarian, will never call her out on her blatant opportunism (and absolutely predatory business model, which Obama had the nerve to MAKE A JOKE ABOUT) because they’re on her payroll.

    How much criticism of this scammer do you read or hear? Not much. Is that because all her would-be critics are getting paid, BY HER?

    The absolute hypocrisy of Huffington moaning about the middle and working classes with the rest of the vacant eyed zombies on Morning Joe WHILE she profits from a business model that relies on paying ONLY high profile writers and no one lower on the scale is just so blatant and obvious I continue to wonder why her “principled” (paid) writers NEVER call her out on it.

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