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Open Thread, Political Musings

by Soonergrunt|  May 12, 201210:06 am| 41 Comments

This post is in: Energy Policy, Gay Rights are Human Rights, Humorous, Open Threads, Religious Nuts 2, Both Sides Do It!

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I keep reading about how Romney can’t close the deal with the fundagelicals no matter what he does. Christ, what does he have to do?  Beat up a gay kid?
Oh. Oh, dear. Ummm, yeah. sorry.

 

Also too, Rmoney’s”support” of gay adoption lasted less than one day

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  1. 1.

    different-church-lady

    May 12, 2012 at 10:07 am

    Too soon?

  2. 2.

    Roger Moore

    May 12, 2012 at 10:10 am

    Christ, what does he have to do? Beat up a gay kid?

    He has to go back in time and change all his positions to what the fundangelicals want. He’s trying to do that in a hacky kind of way by pretending he never held his old positions, but he’s incapable of pulling it off. To really win them over, he needs to actually change history so there’s no record of his old positions.

  3. 3.

    MattF

    May 12, 2012 at 10:12 am

    @Roger Moore: It’s that gol-durned librul space-time continuum, just deliberately making things hard for good people.

  4. 4.

    Hunter Gathers

    May 12, 2012 at 10:16 am

    Christ, what does he have to do?

    Renounce his faith, become an Evangelical.
    What’s funny is that these people are in no danger of staying home or voting for the Kenyan Usurper. All they are doing is demonstrating how much control that they have over Mittens.

    They own his candy ass.

  5. 5.

    Smiling Mortician

    May 12, 2012 at 10:24 am

    I think he has ceased flipping. Now he only flops. All day long.

    these people are in no danger of staying home or voting for the Kenyan Usurper

    Dunno. They might stay home if they ultimately don’t believe he’s really their guy. But the harder he tries to prove he’s their guy, the less likely he is to win the votes of the reasonable republican (I know, this creature may only be rumored to exist).

  6. 6.

    handsmile

    May 12, 2012 at 10:26 am

    @Roger Moore:

    Apparently the Rmoney campaign already recognizes that time travel would be his most effective strategy:

    http://www.hulu.com/watch/349561/onion-news-network-romney-to-travel-back-in-time-to-kill-liberal-versions-of-himself

  7. 7.

    Mark-NC

    May 12, 2012 at 10:28 am

    Not sure what you are worried about with the fundagelicals. The hate ni–ers, they hate gays, they hate liberals, they hate the middle class and poor people, they hate ……………

    Seems like Romney can get nasty enough to make them happy.

  8. 8.

    Steve

    May 12, 2012 at 10:31 am

    “Oh, all I meant was that gay adoption is legal in 49 states.” Well, congratulations, abortion is legal in all 50 states. So I guess that’s a non-issue too.

  9. 9.

    Mike in NC

    May 12, 2012 at 10:34 am

    Rmoney’s”support” of gay adoption lasted less than one day

    In other words, a man of firm principles and deep convictions!

  10. 10.

    Commish

    May 12, 2012 at 10:35 am

    I found this collection of photos from Kowloon Walled City fascinating.

    Demolished in 1992, the “Walled City” was an enclave near Hong Kong that through quirks of history wound up in a political limbo outside of both Chinese and British authority for several decades, immune to most laws and regulations. A libertarian paradise! See if you’d like to have lived there.

  11. 11.

    mai naem

    May 12, 2012 at 10:39 am

    He could renounce his faith but if he did that he can kiss Utah/Arizona goodbye and any chance he has of NM,Nevada and Colorado and possibly Idaho. But he will win all the Deep South states by a huge margin and probably W.Va and South Carolina too. I think it’s an excellent idea.

  12. 12.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 12, 2012 at 10:40 am

    I have always been a firm believer in Nixon’s Law (GOP nomination goes to the best hater).

    I was worried I’d seen its last days, what with the clown show this year, and Mitt getting the nomination. Now I’m not so sure.

    Never bet against the Dickster. This man is one seething mass of resentments.

  13. 13.

    Baud

    May 12, 2012 at 10:41 am

    @Davis X. Machina: Romney hates, but do you really think he was the best hater of this year’s bunch?

  14. 14.

    Davis X. Machina

    May 12, 2012 at 10:52 am

    @Baud: You have to balance the hate factor against having any chance at all in the election. He gets out-hated by a couple of people, but of those who had a real shot, I don’t know.

    He’s growing into the role, though.

  15. 15.

    MattF

    May 12, 2012 at 10:55 am

    @Davis X. Machina: Well, on first impression Mitt’s not a hater– but there’s a reason why his approval tanks once people get to know him better. The pieces come together, and they don’t compose a pretty picture.

  16. 16.

    HRA

    May 12, 2012 at 10:56 am

    He’s constantly “evolving”.

  17. 17.

    Cacti

    May 12, 2012 at 11:03 am

    Christ, what does he have to do?

    Renounce his Mormonism in the most public way possible.

  18. 18.

    Roger Moore

    May 12, 2012 at 11:07 am

    @HRA:

    He’s constantly “evolving”.

    I think you mean “devolving”. The Republicans are atavistic, and Mitt is trying to go along with the group.

  19. 19.

    Mnemosyne

    May 12, 2012 at 11:08 am

    It’s already amazing to me how just about every Romney attack on Obama has an automatic backfire. “You want to talk about how horrible it is that Obama ate dog when he was a kid? Then it’s fair game for us to bring up your boarding school days, isn’t it?”

  20. 20.

    Roger Moore

    May 12, 2012 at 11:16 am

    @Mnemosyne:
    Looking at this year’s Republican primary field is almost enough to make me feel sorry for John McCain and understand why he picked Palin as his running mate. Look at his other options. He apparently balked at picking Romney after looking at his opposition research file, and my guess is that all this crap showed up then. Then I remember what a fucking asshole McCain is, and the sympathy dries up.

  21. 21.

    Soonergrunt

    May 12, 2012 at 11:31 am

    @Roger Moore: Apparently McCain and Rmoney hate each other intensely. I read somewhere that NONE of the 2008 Republican candidates liked Rmoney at all.

  22. 22.

    HRA

    May 12, 2012 at 11:34 am

    @Roger Moore: Yes, that’s what he is doing.

  23. 23.

    Baud

    May 12, 2012 at 11:52 am

    @Roger Moore: OTOH, there has never been a better time for heterosexual poo-flinging chimps to break into Republican politics.

  24. 24.

    Roger Moore

    May 12, 2012 at 11:52 am

    @Soonergrunt:

    I read somewhere that NONE of the 2008 Republican candidates liked Rmoney at all.

    After seeing as much of Romney as we have for the past year, can you blame them?

    ETA: @Baud:
    I don’t know. I think the chimps would be too sophisticated for today’s Republican party. Poo flinging suggests the possibility of tool use, while today’s Republican party seems to view anything beyond screaming at the top of your lungs as effite liberal fanciness.

  25. 25.

    RalfW

    May 12, 2012 at 11:57 am

    I loved reading this in the Houston Chronicle this morning

    Ramesh Ponnuru, editor of the conservative National Review, noted in the aftermath of Lugar’s loss that most tea party successes in the last couple of years have come in races for open seats. “The Tea Party may be losing popularity,” Ponnuru writes, “but its power inside the Republican Party appears to be growing.” Ponnuru – who acknowledged that he and Cruz are friends from college – sees a similar dynamic in Texas. “The fact that Lugar lost so badly should be a sign of concern for Dewhurst,” he said.

    Yep. The Tea Party is turning toxic to the general population, so it’s time for Republicans to embrace them even more. So brilliant, Ponnuru!

  26. 26.

    runt

    May 12, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Romney 2012: Just Close Your Eyes and Think of Reagan.

  27. 27.

    Baud

    May 12, 2012 at 12:10 pm

    @runt: Wasn’t that how Pennsylvania’s governor said women should deal with forced ultrasound?

  28. 28.

    Randy P

    May 12, 2012 at 12:19 pm

    @runt: As far as I’m concerned, you win the Internets for today.

  29. 29.

    The Moar You Know

    May 12, 2012 at 12:32 pm

    Looks like Florida is starting to take gun violence seriously in the wake of the Martin case.

    I wonder what’s different about this case. Any ideas, folks?

  30. 30.

    Jay C

    May 12, 2012 at 12:33 pm

    @Mark-NC:

    Not sure what you are worried about with the fundagelicals. The hate ni—ers, they hate gays, they hate liberals, they hate the middle class and poor people, they hate ……………

    Well, fundamentally (pun intended) they hate anyone who might even remotely be construed to be “Other Than Them”, but I think you’re a tad off base with the “hate the middle class” bit. I think it’s more likely that the fundies – since it is what they have been conditioned to do by decades of biased media consumption – tend to view themselves as the most typical, ordinary and representative “Real Americans”; which in this country, is going to mean an identification with “middle class” as the default classification for sociopolitical identification. For just about everybody outside of the very richest and very poorest strata of society.

  31. 31.

    Randy P

    May 12, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    @The Moar You Know: Aside from the obvious, the witnesses are alive. Under Florida law it’s automatically self-defense if your witnesses are all dead.

    Though it would be interesting to know whether a non-white person has ever successfully used Stand Your Ground in Florida.

  32. 32.

    Hal

    May 12, 2012 at 1:16 pm

    Listening to Tell Me More on NPR on Friday, and Michelle Martin was talking to some Log Cabin Republican who basically said he liked Obama’s endorsement, but was questioning whether it was a cynical, political move to distract from the “real issues.”

    What kills me about these doucebags is they now have an absolute, unequivocal, huge gap between a President who supports gay rights, marriage equality, overall equality etc, vs one who doesn’t think gays should be able to marry, have civil unions, or even adopt. No rights practically at all.

    But hey, Mitt Romney will give you a lower tax rate (if you’re rich) so I guess that makes up for being treated like 3rd class citizens. Fucking idiots.

  33. 33.

    yopd1

    May 12, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Just got surveyed by Princeton Research Associates. Asked about the economy, election, and how I felt about Obama’s support of gay marriage. It’ll be interesting to see if it makes the papers.

  34. 34.

    TG Chicago

    May 12, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    @RalfW: To be fair to Ponnuru, I didn’t read that as him celebrating the fact that Republicans are embracing a toxic brand. I think he was just saying that’s what’s happening. (but he wasn’t lamenting it, either)

  35. 35.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 12, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    @Hal:

    If Rmoney came out and openly called for opening up a Vernichtungslager for gays, the Log Cabin Republicans would be clammoring to be Kapos.

  36. 36.

    Brachiator

    May 12, 2012 at 2:13 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    Never bet against the Dickster. This man is one seething mass of resentments.

    I don’t see much of a comparison between Nixon and Romney at all. Nixon was a seething mass of resentment. Romney lacks the conviction and attention span required to work up a burn about anything.

    Nixon would bristle over attacks by enemies and seek to destroy them. Romney would smoothly write them a check and buy them off.

    Nixon hated the elites he rose to serve. Romney is the elite.

    If anything, Romney resents the fact that he has to work so hard to appease the ignorant, unwashed, uncultured fundies. The double irony is that while these people can be wooed or manipulated, they cannot easily be bought.

    Nixon had a steely determination marred by paranoia. Romney’s surface calm masks insecurity and an essential emptiness.

    The only thing they have in common is that the Right distrusts them. But Romney at least has the faith and full backing of the GOP insiders and the money men.

  37. 37.

    Rasputin's Evil Twin

    May 12, 2012 at 2:43 pm

    @TG Chicago: Sounds like a man admitting to a cancer in his party, and not knowing if it’s curable.

    It might be interesting to compare the GOP’s “platform” for 2012 against the Bull Moose Party’s platform of 1912. Anyone think Theodore Roosevelt’s thinking is more progressive than that of the Tea Party?

    “Theodore Roosevelt: Too progressive for the GOP in 1912. WAY too radical (and badass) for them in 2012.”

  38. 38.

    The Sailor

    May 12, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @Mike in NC: “In other words, a man of firm principles and deep convictions!”

    Well that’s just silly. Everyone knows you don’t get convicted if your daddy gave enough money to your prep school when you commit assault with a deadly weapon.

  39. 39.

    The Sailor

    May 12, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Sorry all, I have a problem with tenses. Obviously I’m two tense.

  40. 40.

    Citizen_X

    May 12, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    @Commish: Holy crap, what a fetid shithole! Er, I mean, FREEDOM! No surprise that they eventually cleared it out.

    And my favorite comment (from a fellow American, sigh): “Never, EVER, give up your guns.”

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