And in other birther news, as the rotting corpse of Breitbart’s media empire continues on in the self-digestion phase, today some putrid cadaver gas leaked out into the body politic:
I hesitate to offer advice to the amateur vetting squad over at Breitbart.com, but here goes: If you have to start a piece with a disclaimer announcing that “Breitbart News is a site that has never advocated the narrative of ‘Birtherism,'” then you’re doing something wrong.
There is no getting out in front of birther allegations.
The latest installment of the self-serious and wildly incompetent Breitbart.com-led “vetting” of President Obama concerns a 1991 pamphlet published by Obama’s former literary agency that erroneously describes Obama as being “born in Kenya.” The Breitbartlings claim they’re not publishing this as bait for the unkillable birther conspiracy, but rather because… well, even they don’t seem too sure:
It is evidence–not of the President’s foreign origin, but that Barack Obama’s public persona has perhaps been presented differently at different times.
It’s actually evidence of the passive voice’s capacity for mischief. And while they might not consider this “evidence” of Obama’s “foreign origin,” all the birther troglodytes out there certainly do.
Like I said the other day, there is a significant segment of wingnuttia who really do think the reason McCain lost was not because of his lurching between positions like a lunatic, not because of the disaster of the Bush years, not because of the economic implosion brought on by Republican policies, and not because of his idiot Veep, but because they just didn’t go negative enough on Obama and because he was not vetted. It’s only going to get nuttier as hacks like the Breitbart stooges attempt to “vet” someone who has been in the job for four years.
piratedan
in this dance, I suspect that there’s never a jump to the “left”……but that there’s plenty of pelvic thrusting and insanity to go around.
WJS
But there were no birthers in 1991. Victory!
redshirt
They’ve got proof! What now, LIBTARDS?
EconWatcher
We are really in uncharted waters in this, the first presidential election since Citizens United. I wonder if the massive amounts of bile that will be unloaded through attack ads will lead people just to tune it all out.
Zifnab
This really isn’t hard to understand. The people doing the “vetting” hate Obama with a fiery passion, and they all know why. If other people don’t hate Obama it must be because they’re either a part of the Grand Liberal Conspiracy to destroy America. And since you can’t really have a conspiracy if 51% of the voting public is in on it, the remaining voting pool must be ignorant and/or stupid.
What do you do when you’re dealing with someone who thick-headedly refuses to believe the obvious? You keep shoving it in their faces until they are forced to recognize reality.
Hence the GOP playbook. Clearly, there is an independent middle that isn’t part of the Grand Liberal Conspiracy. Clearly, that independent middle doesn’t know what the True American Conservatives know, or they’d be True American Conservatives too. Clearly, the path forward is to keep getting that word out until you have a majority on your side.
Joseph Nobles
Evidently the old gypsy woman who Andrew Breitbart pissed off isn’t done yet.
4tehlulz
@EconWatcher: Are we assuming that the global economy doesn’t implode?
Cuz if it does, people will vote for..someone…despite it.
MattF
We’re going to be seeing these dead-enders more and more–for the next six months, for sure. They’re in combat, they see the world through a haze of red. And when Obama wins in November, at least partly because of their craziness, it’ll be time to pay the Devil his due.
The Bearded Blogger
I think this won’t work. Flinging poo works in politics up until you reach the point of diminishing returns. Then you look silly/boring/hateful.
Martin
Or that the agency confused Obama with his dad. In other conspiracy news, according to Citicorp I was married to my mom for 9 years and took out my first mortgage when I was 4. No doubt when I decide to run for President that will be trotted out as evidence of my liberal inçestuous policy goals and desire to destroy the economy by loaning money to toddlers.
The Bearded Blogger
@MattF: I predict at least two secessionist movements next year (west and south)
Villago Delenda Est
Wingtards wanting to go negative: “The sheriff is a ni*CLANG*!”
American public: “What did he say?”
McCain campaign: “I think he said the sheriff is near”
Linda Featheringill
@EconWatcher: #4
The Republicans will have more money to play with than the Democrats.
The question, of course, is how much is enough campaign money? Then I guess we should ask whether the Dems will get their hands on that much money.
And I don’t know the answers.
4tehlulz
@Martin: CRA CRA CRA
Zach
The oddest thing is that this whole right-wing-internet-detective stuff really took off with Charles Johnson (now converted) and others showing how silly it was to think that there’d be new, legit dirt on George Bush 4 years into the job. They’ve now become a bunch of Dan Rathers.
Hal
Meanwhile, Mitt Romney has been consistent throughout his public career.
cathyx
And never underestimate the power of money and the stupidity of the electorate.
redshirt
@Martin: That’s some kinky Oedipus shit right there man. You just lost my vote.
replicnt6
@Martin: That’s some kinky Oedipus shit right there man. You just got my vote.
joeyess
Hell, at least they’re continuing Teh Crazy. Which is more than Andrew can do at the moment.
Mike in NC
Can’t wait until some intrepid reporter shoves a microphone in Willard’s face and asks him if he thinks Obama was born in the USA. He’ll bite his lip and go red in the face before finally saying “I only know what he claims”.
jl
I think what they also miss, as I typed in a previous thread, they miss that there is another kind of Obama vetting that sane voters are interested in.
Namely, and I will spell this out very slowly so they will maybe understand if they read it a dozen times or so: What. Has. He. Done. Last. Four. Years. And. What. Are. His. Plans. For. Next. Four.
That little angle seems to escape them.
I think even the toned down semi dogwhistle schtick pissed off a lot of voters last time. I think the wiser GOP advisers know it will really piss people off this time, except for those already batshit insane or racist.
At least they know enough that the GOP cannot be associated with it, and any dregs that show up absolutely have to look as though totally unconnected so backlash does not hit them.
People saw all this garbage in 2008, and will not appreciate a rerun.
Sad, that these loons can not even come up with a sequel, they only have a rerun.
danimal
@redshirt: Whitey tape???
There is a significantly greater than zero chance that rich white Republicans will spend hundreds of millions of dollars showing the world that they are a bunch of racist buffoons, thus relieving the Obama/Dems from the burden of spending millions of dollars stating that Republicans are a party filled with racist buffoons.
Stuck in the Funhouse
What republicans are masters of, is what Patrick Fitzgerald said about finding out what happened in the Plame affair, the kicking up of just enough dust to make it hard to know who and what to believe. It is very potent political weapon, or tool when done by people with half a brain cell. It was the main event, for the Bushies selling the Iraq War to the public, and no one did it better, or with more discipline than Dick Cheney and his bud Donald Duck Rumsfeld.
Breitbart and other clowns only manage to look insane, but if they are persistent enough, for long enough, and insane enough, they can wear down the voting public to a point that nobody gives a shit what happens, or who wins the election. I suspect we are in the warmups for the biggest, most offensive to the human senses political campaign – maybe in the history of man his/her self. To drive all of us so fucking crazy, we throw up our hands in a fit of pox on all their houses. It might be the only way they can possibly win. Or it could give dems a landslide victory. Who the fuck knows.
Villago Delenda Est
@Mike in NC:
He’s already answered that question, and instead of being categorical, he says he “believes” that Obama was born in the US.
He left open a tiny little sliver for the birfers to hold on to…that he can indeed be persuaded that Obama was NOT born in the US if only the right evidence can be presented.
jl
@Villago Delenda Est:
Hard to say what Romney’s little hedge means. He would hedge an answer about being a human living on planet earth. Probably more basis to read something into that one.
WJS
Talk about going full batshit wingnut.
Larry Johnson is all over this:
He’s embracing the fail, whitey tape be damned.
FlipYrWhig
@Villago Delenda Est: In a related manner, I “believe” that Mitt Romney has a little slip of paper somewhere on his body that says “Inspected by #5.”
jl
I think their plan could work if they could turn it into a dance craze. I think the ‘sonics’, as the ‘hep cats’ say, are already there, though I can’t think of the tune right now.
It will be a great way to reach the youth vote.
Oh I’m just sayin’
He might be Kenyan
Do the time warp!
Oh, do the time warp!
He might be commie,
Come ‘n’ get your mommy!
Do the time warp!
Oh do the time warp!
Some people say
He just might be gay
I’m just in my time warp,
Do the time warp.
The Soviet Union
Might be his doin’
Do the time warp!
Oh do the time warp!
Ok kids, shuffle on back
An’ try that two step hack!
Oh do the time warp!
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@EconWatcher:
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A salient factor which I think the idiot pirate crew of S.S. Citizens United have overlooked is that the very people who are most swingable in the voting electorate are also the ones who just plain hate political advertising of any sort. The money bombers are pushing on a string, to borrow a phrase from economics. We have plenty of evidence from state level elections (c.f. California) that beyond a point of diminishing returns money bombing an electorate just plain doesn’t work if you don’t have an emotionally compelling hook to hang your pitch on.
__
The other nasty surprise the GOP has coming is that the very people most turned off by this crap are the least capable of, or inclined to, making fine distinctions between what exactly was authorized by whom and what is the official GOP party line vs. what some crazy billionaire is paying to pollute their TV viewing time with. “..but, but, we didn’t say that, it was crazy uncle Jeebers who isn’t an official part of the campaign…”, that story isn’t going to get any traction with people for whom the whole thing is just one big toxic stew of DO.NOT.WANT.
Omnes Omnibus
@FlipYrWhig: Wrong. It was #7.
piratedan
@FlipYrWhig: WIN! except it’d be in spanish
hitchhiker
Jane Dystel and Miriam Goderich run the agency that first offered a contract to the young Barack Obama. Jane and Miriam are — yes, I’m bragging — also my literary agents.
The word is that Miriam (not yet Jane’s partner) was the one who edited the pamphlet with the information on it. I’m torn between hoping the two of them don’t have to be run through the mighty wurlitzer and hoping they get a chance to talk about the young Obama as they knew him, long before everybody else did.
They’re very eloquent on that subject and generally impressive women. It could be fun to watch them turn this “story” into yet another warm testimonial on behalf of the president from sympathetic adult women.
FlipYrWhig
@piratedan: That’s right! _Hecho en Mexico_.
The Bearded Blogger
@EconWatcher: Serious question: Will massive Citizens United advertisement expenditures help the economy and, therefore, boost Obama?
jl
@FlipYrWhig: I’m think more along the lines of Mariana Islands. Labor is less uppity there.
Beavis
It is not just the Breitbart lackeys — I was just listening to Sean Hannity on my car radio in full birther mode. The bat signal has evidently out out from wingnut central.
FlipYrWhig
@jl: The Marianas also have the advantage of having been Republican-ized via Abramoff.
My grandmother used to think “Hecho en Mexico” was hilarious. She pronounced it “Hecko.”
Villago Delenda Est
@WJS:
If the “or what?” is “batshit insane, like me!” I’ll go with “or what?”
Well, except for the “intellectual” part, he just described the Rmoneytron. It’s always projection with the wingtards. Always.
Redshift
@jl: But they’re certain that he has a Secret Plan for the next four years, and the fact that he hasn’t done any of the nefarious deeds they predicted in his first term just means he’s fiendishly clever and will do them once he “doesn’t have to worry about being reelected!”
The real laugh is that they never seem to catch on that the only audience for that level of claptrap are people who already wouldn’t vote for Obama in a million years. Breitbart may have gotten it and just been grifting them, but the Breitbartlets seem to honestly be that stupid.
Redshift
@The Bearded Blogger: I’ve wondered that myself, since it seems to be the only useful result of Romney’s primary money carpet-bombing. I’m thinking not much, since the 2009 stimulus was just under a billion dollars, and the “big” ad buys are described as $15 million or at most $25 million. But it doesn’t hurt, and maybe altogether it will do some good.
It certainly would be amusing if it did.
jl
@Redshift:
The kids down at the malt shop will love it. The 45s will fly off the shelves. We can run it backwards on the flip side, for the wingers who won’t believe anything that is not in ‘secret code’.
I’m not dreamin’
Obama’s schemin’
Do the time warp!
Oh do the time warp!
gnomedad
“He wasn’t vetted” means that they haven’t (yet) found the whitey tape, proof he was born in Kenya, secret plans for gun confiscation, photos of his gay affairs, etc., etc., etc., and we know these things are true because, just look at him, he’s not one of us, not that we’re racist or anything.
Villago Delenda Est
@jl:
Um, jl, hate to rain on your parade, but it’s been done.
Let’s do the Time Warp again!
This is what the title of the thread references.
Jilli
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama’s then-literary agency which describes the author as “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
“You’re undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more.”
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/05/17/literary_agent_says_1991_booklet_was_a_mistake.html
I’m quite sure this will be ignored by the entire population of wingnuttia, usa.
SensesFail
@replicnt6:
WIN.
Martin
@The Bearded Blogger:
No. Ads aren’t expansionary. They have minimal labor costs, and mostly just add demand to a system that scales exceedingly well and tends to have an excess of supply. More ads just raises the overall cost of advertising. If it were sustained, it could be enough to get some new networks off the ground – that kind of thing, but it’s seasonal.
Now, if the money that was raised was being used for ground operations – hiring staff, printing yard signs and door hangers, that kind of stuff – then that’d be different. But I don’t see any of the SuperPACs putting money into anything that has substance – it’s all messaging and grift.
JPL
The President’s mother is an American citizen, so does it really matter what they say even though, he was born in Hawaii….
Sickos all of them.
jl
@Villago Delenda Est:
WTF, that song warned everyone about Obama? I guess I didn’t understand the lyrics.
My version was specially written for this election, has a better beat, and you can dance to it.
Linda Featheringill
@The Bearded Blogger:
I have been told that this amount of money won’t be big enough to seriously impact the economy. But I think that it will serve as a stimulus, even if a small one. And if the economy is moving into a positive direction anyway, maybe it will push it along a little. Can’t hurt.
Bear in mind that I’m not an economist.
JPL
@Linda Featheringill: I’m not sure how.. Advertising dollars are limited in stimulus.. I’m not an economist and I didn’t sleep in a Holiday Inn so take my thoughts as just thoughts.
Villago Delenda Est
@jl:
Look at the clip, jl.
You can dance to Rocky Horror.
mdblanche
@JPL: You seem to be implying that women count as people.
jl
@Villago Delenda Est: After they win the election with my dance craze jingle and I am the new and rich, Ham Rove, you can laugh all you want.
Redshift
@JPL: I would think that getting dollars out of evil billionaires’ Scrooge McDuck swimming vaults and into the hands of lesser people would have some knock-on effects, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it wasn’t much.
JPL
@mdblanche: I have to go ask
AliceRoberts…Redshift
@JPL: The thing that makes a conspiracy theory different from evidence of an actual conspiracy is that a conspiracy theory expands to compensate for any evidence against it. The wingnuts apparently have some wingnutty idea that if you’re out of the country for a certain length of time after you turn eighteen without “affirming” your citizenship, then you’re technically not a citizen and your kids aren’t automatically citizens. Or something. It doesn’t make any sense in Reality World, of course.
JPL
@Redshift: Depends on the size of their pockets I guess. Some is bound to fall out.
Villago Delenda Est
@Redshift:
Just gets transferred to corporate media Scrooge McDuck vaults.
No actual little people involved in the process. Very efficient.
HRA
@FlipYrWhig:
“In a related manner, I “believe” that Mitt Romney has a little slip of paper somewhere on his body that says “Inspected by #5.”
Magic underwear?
El Cid
Way before Obama and Hillary were running, it was common wisdom on the right that Bush Jr’s popularity was going downhill in 2005 and onward because he’d been too moderate (or liberal), reserved, cautious, and bipartisan.
No, really. They said that.
So this precedes Obama and birtherism and McCain.
As an example, plenty of Republicans I knew abandoned Bush Jr. (though coincidentally at his point of plummeting post-Godhood ratings) when he proposed to be non-lunatic regarding immigration reform — i.e., giving the country away to the Messkins.
g
@Martin: Since O’Keefe just managed to confuse a dead guy with his namesake son, I’d say that’s probably a lesson these guys should have learned.
Triassic Sands
In 2012 will we come to long for the moderation of the Swift Boat Liars?
J R
I’m still hoping that people who are somewhere in the middle will be sickened by the avalanche of rotten spume about to be unleashed by the wing-nut billionaires on an unsuspecting America.
If there is enough truly vile crazy broadcast on TV and published in the magazines and newspapers I trust the Americam people to reject it, and rightly suspecting the worth of those who would benefit from such spew would turn to a trusted and important figure in public life, the President of the US, Barry Obama.
Maybe not. Maybe the spew will overcome all reasonable thoughts and opinions. Maybe we’re doomed to a Mormon rmoneybot for at least the next 4 years.
How much money do you have to have to immigrate to Europe?
jl
@J R:
” How much money do you have to have to immigrate to Europe? ”
No escape from the moneybots there right now. Just a question of what kind of cheesy greedy clueless moneybot wreckage you think is best: American or Duetschegeizkaese.
g
@gnomedad:
Oh, just the other day some lunatic was demanding to see the college transcripts on some blog comment section. What use would Obama’s college transcripts possibly be to even the most lunatic opposition research? Transcripts simply show enrollment and grade, they don’t show anything else. No supposed “scholarship for foreign students”, no “affirmative action acceptance.”
There’s also a claim that a deep dark conspiracy is keeping the transcripts from being released. Yeah, sure there is. It’s called FERPA.
So, say Obama releases his college transcripts, and we find he got a C in calculus. Or maybe Art History. And?
Roger Moore
@Villago Delenda Est:
Sure, but this is Mitt Romney we’re talking about. There’s absolutely no guarantee he’d answer the question the same way if you asked him again today, or even an hour later if it had been in front of a different audience. It seems like it would be worth asking him again, just to check and see what he’ll say this time.
Hill Dweller
If this has been covered, apologies, but did anyone else see Netanyahu say he wasn’t close friends with Willard? Romney has been saying for a while the he and Bibi are BFFs.
It’s these type of lies, which are essentially meaningless and accomplish nothing, that makes me think Romney is a pathological liar.
Foregone Conclusion
‘Vetting’ is the biggest dogwhistle since ‘forced bussing’. I’m often loath to underestimate the underlying, non-racist paranoia and craziness that runs through the radical right (hell, look what they did to Clinton), and a lot of the shit that’s been thrown at Obama would have been thrown at any Democratic president. But nobody was saying in 1996 that Clinton hadn’t been ‘vetted’ properly – they were saying he was a crook, sure, but the whole idea of a sitting president needing to be ‘vetted’ before his re-election stinks of something especially rotten. The risk isn’t of a Republican officer holder letting rip the n-word, there’s a risk they’ll just call him ‘boy’, straight off. Hell, would an adult or a white man still be on probation after four years in a job?
chopper
@replicnt6: that’s some kinky Aegagrus shit right there man. you just got my goat.
Cato
When the Super PAC ads hit this summer and fall, you little liberal fucks are going to be good and hammered in a way the likes of which has never been seen in American politics.
In the words of once and future Senator George Allen, you’re about to get your soft teeth kicked down your whiny throats.
FlipYrWhig
@Foregone Conclusion: Interesting take. I thought the appeal of the “vetting” concept was more about how, as the wingnuts see it, the media (being Teh Librulz) was too far in the tank for Obama that they refused to do their jobs. But it’s related: part of their romance for Obama, as the story goes, comes from their being smitten with black heroes and thus willing to lie for them. Take the Rush Limbaugh comments about Donovan McNabb that got him fired from ESPN and that’s basically the way the wingnuts understand the media treatment of Obama:
Tonal Crow
At this rate, I expect by July that breitbart.com will tell us that Obama was never born.
Which means that by August John Boehner will express a noncommittal attitude when asked about it, and that by October Bobo will mildly chide Republicans for the meme, but only because it “lowers Republicans to Chicago-style attack advertising”.
Also too, on the eve of the election, Politifact will judge the assertion to be “partially false”.
P.S. Don’t throw us in the birther patch! Noooooo! We’ll DIE in there!
Roger Moore
OT: A course at the Joint Forces Staff College has been teaching that we’re at war with Islam, the Geneva Conventions don’t apply, and we should look at the historical precedents of “Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki” for how to deal with Muslim civilians. More details at MSNBC. Sick, sick stuff that should have been stopped in its tracks before it ever got a chance to start.
JoyceH
@Jilli:
Hmmm – I know a publicity agent who’s overdue for a kitchen counter inspection…
dmsilev
Mitt Romney today:
Wow.
Bubblegum Tate
@Jilli:
No, it will be used as further proof that Obama was born in Kenya. THE FACT CHECKER IS IN ON THE CONSPIRACY!
Helen
@J R: Depends on the country. I am an Irish citizen by virtue of the fact that my mom was born there; even though she became an American citizen 45 years ago. And because she was born in Belfast I had the option of Ireland or UK
jwb
@Bubblegum Tate: And the fact that you are ridiculing the conspiracy just proves that you are in on the conspiracy as well!
Ben Cisco
@jl:
Somewhere, Dick Clark is watching you.
Dunno if he’s smiling or not, but I giggled.
Ben Cisco
@Foregone Conclusion: Damned glad to see someone put this into words. When the shitstorm started in ’08, there was a lot of “but, Clinton” tossed around; a reluctance, if you will, to acknowledge just how “old school” the GOP (and others) were acting towards Obama. Four years hence, and it’s readily apparent to anyone paying the slightest bit of attention whatsoever that we are in uncharted waters.
Not intended to derail the thread, but I needed to get that off my chest. Carry on.
magurakurin
@Cato:
ah the fun we would have had if we had had the Internet when we were 15 in the eleventh grade doing all those bong hits.
Kids today are lucky.
Frankensteinbeck
@Ben Cisco:
I was one of those ‘but, Clinton’s. It was a good argument, but it’s been left behind. Yes, they would have bitched and dragged their feet and demagogued and thrown conspiracy theories at a white Democrat, but there’s a big difference in scale. A BIG difference in scale.
gocart mozart
The kerning on the literary agent’s blurb is all wrong. It is in a font that wasn’t invented until 2007! and is of a type known to be favored by Andrew Breitbart who is not dead.
gocart mozart
@El Cid:
Absolutely Cid, after all the lies and wars and warcrimes and Katrina et cetera, it took Bush’s support for reasonable immigration reform to get him to an under 30% aproval rating.
David Koch
but Obama’s book wasn’t written until 1995.
these fuck-up can’t even get a forgery correct (reminds me of the fake yellow cake crap)
Cain
@Joseph Nobles:
It would have been better if she cursed him with lyncanthropy instead of dying.
kay
@Ben Cisco:
FWIW I agree with you. Birtherism bothers me. It always has. I never thought it was just politics or eccentric Tea Baggers or That Zany Donald Trump.
It’s raw hate. I keep hoping someone great is documenting it. I want these peoples names and faces in a really compelling and popular book or film, with their photos. It should be remembered.
We’ll need a chapter or portion devoted to political media’s cowardice in the face of it, how they simpered and made excuses and minimized it.
amk
At least, breitbart is still dead, thank fsm.
amk
@Beavis: so you’re saying sean klannity is not a breitbart lackey ?
David Koch
ya know, we just don’t know enough about Barack Obama.
for example, where does he live? what kind of car does he drive? does he have a dog or cat?
it’s little things like this that have never been answered.
Jebediah
@Cato:
Dude, you’re slipping. It’s basic Trolling 101 – never let us see you sweat. The waving arms and stomping feet aren’t cutting it – we can see the flop sweat and the slowly spreading urine stain on your trousers.
amk
@Cato: Fucking keyboard kommando koward.
catclub
@Jilli: “I’m quite sure this will be ignored by the entire population of wingnuttia, usa.”
No, it will be taken as proof of the conspiracy.
the fugitive uterus
haha – i just got out of bed and my eyes are all bleary and i thought you wrote “rolling corpse” and i just got this image of Breitbart’s corpse on a gurney or maybe a wheeled Barcolounger being wheeled around the internets
Sally Rakowski
1991- Kenya box checked
2007- Kenya box unchecked
lethargytartare
@Sally Rakowski:
the fuck?
Jebediah
@lethargytartare:
Pay no mind. Sally is a cognitively challenged troll, and if you engage, you will get nothing coherent.
Mike E
McCain lost because he was the last politician to perform hospice care for the dying GOP. All others here on out are zombies.
tones
@jl:
Have you ever heard the song in question?
I do not think it is what you think it is.
And thanks a lot John for sticking that song in my head for the next hundred hours or so – I don’t even have to hear it but only see the name to get it stuck in my head!