Spent the day cooking and cleaning, and am now waiting for folks to show up. It’s just been hot as hell here the past few days.
BTW- Read Kay’s post on Wisconsin and the full DWS remarks at CNN, and it is clear that once again, I don’t know my ass from a hole in the ground. Your bloghost, clueless as ever. Some things really never change.
gbear
It’s cool. Both posts convinced me to donate to We Are Wisconsin.
Baud
And this is what separates this blog from most others. (ETA: The willingness to be introspective, not the cluelessness, if that wasn’t clear.)
This, and Kay, who is awesome.
Maude
But you cook and clean and that’s what’s important.
Have a wonderful time and keep Rosie girl away from the food table.
schrodinger's cat
So how did you finally cook your chicken?
P.S. How is the great furry one? We can has photos?
Joseph Nobles
“Your bloghost”, not “you’re bloghost.” I are not a bloghost.
I just recently came down with this case of grammar Nazi. Maybe I should see a doctor about it.
Sam
@Baud:
Reader for years, long too broke to contribute, but doing so today and this is why.
jeffreyw
@schrodinger’s cat: Homer is looking out for you.
JordanRules
Good sh*t John! Now can we get more deters on the grub?
schrodinger's cat
@jeffreyw: Where is Bitsy? Homer looks like he is up to something.
Mnemosyne
I’m getting ready to go out and buy the rest of the stuff for our dinner tonight — burgers, potato salad and maybe some fruit salad on the side.
And, yes, John, though we call you an idiot and an asshole in the comments sometimes, we do appreciate that you can admit when you’re wrong. You set a good example for those of us who have more trouble doing it.
Roger Moore
@jeffreyw:
This is not relevant to my interests.
Villago Delenda Est
John, don’t be too hard on yourself.
Those stories were pretty deliberately stripped of context and the remarks placed in such a way to give that impression of DWS’s comments.
I fell for it too, based on your reading of it, and what was put up.
It’s clear from the fuller comments that DWS wasn’t being a total idiot.
The vile Crowley cow still is a total idiot, however.
kideni
No worries, John. When I was in Denmark earlier this month and only getting bits of information, I was a little annoyed/discouraged. Now that I’m back in WI, though, I’m feeling better. Canvassers are everywhere and phone banks are busy (and Obama’s OFA has been great with helping organize all that). All along, this has been a fight from the ground up. Help from the national orgs is appreciated, but we wouldn’t want them controlling the message. It’s still a tough fight, because Walker’s side has so much freaking money, and the right-wing media is strong in southeast WI, where much of the population is. However, Barrett did really well in his debate with Walker Friday night, and the media actually reported it that way. We’ll see how they report the next debate later this week, but I thought that was a good thing.
I saw an interesting comment on another board: someone noticed that wearing a “Vote for Barrett” button got a much friendlier response than a “Recall Walker” one — positive messages win out.
Steeplejack
@Joseph Nobles:
How about
/punctuation Nazi
jeffreyw
@schrodinger’s cat: Mrs J has her busy testing product.
kc
At least you’ll admit it when you’re wrong.
S. cerevisiae
A toast to all who have given their lives in service to their country, no matter how they served.
Skol!
PurpleGirl
@Joseph Nobles: I fight with my inner grammar cop a lot. I’m so tempted to write a correction comment — to, two, too; their, there, they’re; who’s, whose, etc. And let’s not mention the proper use of apostrophes.
jeffreyw
@Roger Moore: We have a hard time keeping the kittehs entertained.
taylormattd
@Villago Delenda Est: This is exactly correct. The remarks in those stories are stripped of all context, and written as you say.
But please, let’s remember something: the this faulty, bullshit storyline is being relentlessly pushed by the leading lights in the so-called “progressive” blogosphere. There is nothing more exciting to these people than a DEMOCRAT HAS BETRAYED US ALL story.
The real lesson to be learned is that whenever John gets an email from whatever is the TownHouse list these days, or whenever an enraged facebook post shows up from Matt Stoller, Chris Bowers, Glenn Greenwald, anyone at FDL, Atrios, Digby, or the like, his default setting should be to view the post as false, and only then read to see if it actually is true.
taylormattd
Oh, hey, what did you end up making besides the stuffed peppers?
Maude
@taylormattd:
That wouldn’t be any fun for us. He goes off like a rocket and we enjoy ourselves.
Amir Khalid
What you did there, I think I seen it.
David Koch
I blame DWS for the heatwave.
robertdsc-iPhone 4
How is Tunch?
stinkbait
Another of those rare occasions where I agree with Cole. He truly doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground. An expert at self marginalization and he wonders why people like to flame him so much.
Stick with cooking and cleaning up dog puke.
Joseph Nobles
@Steeplejack: X-P
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
Did you see this in the NYTimes yesterday? I already wrote the guy a fan letter (and got a response):
http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/21/the-most-comma-mistakes/
Linda Featheringill
@jeffreyw:
Oh! Bitsy’s such a big girl! [and lovely, of course]
Brachiator
@Joseph Nobles:
Also, too, the autocorrect function will sometimes suggest “your” when “you’re” is meant, and the reverse. And there is a comment is this thread that uses “deters” when I’m pretty sure “details” was intended, another error perhaps of an attempt at autocorrection.
I also hate it when I notice an error and try to correct it, only to find that the edit feature won’t work, which occurs with annoying regularity on my mobile browser.
Anyway, on the larger issues, kudos to John and Kay on posting on this issue, and double kudos to John for seeing where he may have been misled.
Roger Moore
@jeffreyw:
This picture gets my seal of approval.
David Koch
DWS killed the czar and his ministers as Anastasia screamed in vain. That’s the nature of DWS’ game.
Amir Khalid
@Joseph Nobles:
@Steeplejack:
No, no, no. The comma — which is Joseph Nobles’, not John Cole’s — is correctly placed after the first set of quote marks; but, for the same reason, the period should be outside the second set as well. Thus,
should be
Harrumph.
Suffern ACE
Once again, always wrong John Cole…oh whatever. It’s too damn hot to stand outside by the grill. And too hot to sit by the computer and be snarky.
jeffreyw
@Roger Moore:
We remain skeptical.
Villago Delenda Est
@Roger Moore:
Rush Limbaugh’s anorexic brother?
quannlace
Keep an eye on those critters. One cook-out, I was vigilant about keeping the hamburgers and hot dogs from the clutch of my dog, Clemmie. Then I turned around from the grill and saw she’d eaten all the buns!
Raven
Mr Bluebird on my shoulder. . .
ruemara
@Roger Moore: looks exactly like my Kagebasho, except less… lacking in dignity
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
I did see that article and liked it. The Times itself is succumbing to increasingly slipshod copyediting. One thing I have noticed a particular increase in is what Yagoda refers to as the “missing comma” after a parenthetical phrase, e.g., “But the Boston manager, Bobby Valentine said the team is not in a slump.”
Also, over the last few years the Times has scuttled sank (and shrank, stank, etc.). “The ship sunk yesterday in the Gulf of Aden.” No, the ship sank yesterday.
Did you ever subscribe to The Underground Grammarian? It was a cool little newsletter that came out every so often. I think the guy had a Web site for a while, but I don’t know if it’s still active.
These days I don’t go out of my way to find grammar/usage sites on the Web. I’ve got enough agita as it is.
The comma/quote thing has piqued my interest because it seems to be trending up on Balloon Juice over the past year, even among “careful” writers.
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
I believe your country follows more of a U.K. brand of style/usage. You would get bounced out of any U.S. newsroom or publishing house with your example. Harrumph, indeed.
geg6
I was lazy today. Only did laundry. Am turning leftover grilled chicken from yesterday’s soirée into chicken Caesar salads served with garlic bread. Too hot and tired out from a weekend of cooking and cleaning. Went to the local parade and spent some quiet moments at the local war memorial, remembering those I knew and those I didn’t who served and never came home.
And Cole? You’re a good man. All good men own up to their mistakes. Just one of the many reasons I fell in love with my John.
Joseph Nobles
@Amir Khalid: No, Steeple is correct about American usage. Both comma and period in.
gnomedad
@Joseph Nobles:
I lean toward being a grammar Nazi, yet sometimes I find my fingers typing just such horrors, and they are not typos in the trivial sense. Mostly I notice them at once. This doubtless provides some insight into how the brain works — one module “hears” what the other is “saying” and transcribes it carelessly?
sparrow
Not a long-time reader at all, but a very appreciative one. I’m one of those cradle-republicans who made the slow transition to independent (late teens) to sort-of-democrat in my mid-20s to a raging leftist (or whatever) today. Thanks for pushing me to send money to We are wisconsin. We can’t let the bastards win without a fight.
Roger Moore
@Villago Delenda Est:
No, though I can understand the confusion. These fellas come ashore in Central California every year around New Years to give birth and breed before heading back out to sea. It’s fantastic to see. You can get beaches that are literally covered with elephant seals. And the newborn baby seals are incredibly cute.
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
The Times seems to have virtually no copyediting now. They constantly misuse “who” and “whom” (“This was the man whom my mother said should marry me”), and I’ve brought up here before the now constant hyphen between an adverb and an adjective (“They need a more-effective strategy”). Not to mention using “swap out for” instead of “replace with” (“swap out yogurt for cream cheese”), which is all over their food pages but has started to appear elsewhere as well. And yes, I know it’s some kind of computer term, but it’s not English.
kdaug
@quannlace:
Our Golden snagged a pack of bacon off the counter once.
Found it the next day in spray form.
Our Golden snagged a pack of bacon off the counter once.
PurpleGirl
@jeffreyw: That is a great picture.
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
I had dinner recently with an old J-school friend who worked for the Washington Post until a few years ago, and she mentioned that the paper recently tried to rehire some copyeditors lost to buyouts and
forced“encouraged” retirement because the paper had had a run of major editing snafus and realized they haddownsizedgutted the staff too much.Incidentally, she (mostly) shares the Balloon Juice consensus that the Kaplan tail is wagging the Post dog to deleterious effect.
Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
@Joseph Nobles:
There, gentlemen, we differ. For me, the “British” rule, that punctuation belongs inside the quote marks only when it is part of the quote, is the logical one.
Joseph Nobles
xkcd is correct about if you really want to torture someone, teach them about proper kerning. The people who bought the office building where I work put the name of the building up in shiny chrome letters over the door. And the letters are TOO DAMN CLOSE TOGETHER. And the O’s, oh jesus god, there are four capital O’s and they are all crooked as hell and none of them even orient to a single other one. You can tell because they’re fucking chrome and they reflect the goddamn light.
And that’s before you get into the building and see what insanity the interior designer is vomiting out all over the place. I’ll take a picture today of the little ashtray-trash can things they’ve placed in the elevator lobbies. They appear to have been imported from the waiting room of Hell. Tim Burton would see one of these things and instantly become a disciple of Thomas Kinkade. It’s the kind of atrocity one designs after one’s soul has been sent three times through a wood chipper. I’m not exaggerating.
WereBear
@Joseph Nobles: This is the world the John Galts are building: a place where everything worthwhile is too expensive.
piratedan
You’re a bloghost John, and here’s your invitation to Flogwarts where you learn to spew facts and realities (aka Republican memes) that muggles (Democrats) simply can’t see. j/k but I had to use the joke before its expiration date was up.
Steeplejack
@Amir Khalid:
That’s fine for where you are (Kuala Lumpur?). Just realize it’s not U.S. style.
eemom
So very charming and endearing, that after the fact mea culpa, that boyish humility. And so very much easier than making the minimal effort required to distinguish ass from hole in the ground in the first place.
Suffern ACE
@Joseph Nobles: Hmmm. So they’re using the concept of “Hell” as the defining metaphor for your workplace? I guess that’s more interesting possibility than salt mines or a rat maze.
Roger Moore
@ruemara:
Many black cats look alike. My understanding is that most black cats in the USA have a Siamese background. If you cross a pointed cat with one that doesn’t have the temperature dependent albinism gene, you tend to get solid colored kittens. That means most black cats here tend to have a more oriental body shape as well as the black coloring.
JPL
Gosh Colombian tamales are tasty and filling. I was going to hamburgers on the grill when neighbors arrived with home made tamales. Yum!
Origuy
@Joseph Nobles: I struggle with this constantly, because it seems wrong to me. Since I do a lot of technical writing, where the quotation marks enclose characters that must be typed exactly, I will break this rule when it could be misleading. I guess I shall have to relocate to the UK. (One more reason….)
(God, I hope I punctuated that correctly!)
Amir Khalid
@Steeplejack:
I can adapt to American spelling just fine. I use it here. But if I were ever to write in the US, that particular American rule of punctuation would get me into arguments with copy editors. It just does not make sense.
Raven
This cat belongs to our neighbor/tenant. Remind you of anyone?
Raven
And here.
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
All I can say is get off my lawn, kids.
Steeplejack
@Origuy:
This is a valid exception–code snippets, etc.
I have worked some places where the style was to put even the shortest snippets in a “blockquote” to avoid any ambiguity.
ruemara
@Raven: explains why Tunch is fat. He’s using his transdimensional cat powers to pretend he’s someone else’s pet.
Raven
Does Tunch have green eyes?
Steeplejack
@Raven:
Doesn’t have the flashy after-market tail.
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
Amen, sister.
Raven
@Steeplejack: I have clippers.
Yutsano
@Raven: Tail colour is wrong, but definitely haz teh floofiness!
Roger Moore
@Origuy:
I think the rules have to be different for technical documents. For example, when using something that’s case sensitive and all lowercase as the first word in a sentence, you really have to leave it lowercase even though convention says it should be capitalized. E.g. “
ls
is the standard command to list files.”Raven
@Yutsano: This tells me how little attention I pay to cats. If these folks hadn’t gone on a 5 week camping trip I would have never gotten this close.
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
I’ve been meaning to ask you: what do you think in general of the Pevear/Volokhonsky translations of the Russian masters? (Or any new translations.) I haven’t read a lot of those books since the old Constance Garnett versions way back in school, and I have been thinking about loading some of them on the Nook.
(Currently going through Edith Grossman’s Don Quixote and enjoying it a lot.)
gogol's wife
When is the Eurovision thread coming? These Russian grannies are rather strange:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdgbM8k_wNg
I love that floofy cat that Raven posted the picture of.
Raven
And here’s their gigantic dog along with my crew.
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
You’re asking either the right person or the wrong person, depending on how much you want to hear. I think P&V are HIGHLY overrated. A translator named Michele Berdy has done an evisceration of their “Master and Margarita.” (Sorry about the punctuation but I can’t figure out how to italicize here.) I gave a talk comparing their translations of Dostoevsky to those of Constance Garnett, and Garnett wins. As for other modern translators, it would depend on the novel. For Crime and Punishment, I’d go with Sidney Monas. For The Devils, I’d go with Michael Katz. For Brothers Karamazov, it’s harder. This may be P&V’s best effort, but I still think Garnett (in the revised Norton edition) is the best. I teach with Ignat Avsey’s version (Oxford World Classics). It has problems, but is pretty accurate and quite readable. Again, just let me know which novel(s) you’re interested in. There’s no one “master” these days.
ETA: Despite what Oprah may think.
Roger Moore
@Raven:
It’s especially noticeable in Tunch’s case because he has a classic Van pattern: white except for red on the tail, the top of the head, and the ears. If it were just a few random spots, people might not care as much.
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
P.S. I blame Nabokov for all the gratuitous sneering at Constance Garnett that goes on. Her achievement was monumental.
Raven
@Roger Moore: We’ll I’ll be dogged!
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
Thanks! I haven’t decided where to (re)start, but now I know where to come for the rantin’ and recommendin’.
Also trying to figure out which edition(s) of the various pieces and parts of Proust to get. I know some British publisher commissioned new translations of at least the first few volumes by several different authors, but I seem to remember reading that they are uneven. And I don’t remember how much the Kilmartin line has
eradicatedcleaned up the Moncrieff purple haze. (The Sweet Cheat Gone? Within a Budding Grove? Jeez.)Italics are easy. Just do it like this: <i>A Title of Something</i>.
gogol's wife
@Steeplejack:
Don’t ask me about Proust! I know nossing.
Where do you get that little sideways circumflex thingy? I really am barely able to use a computer for anything.
Roger Moore
@Steeplejack:
Or highlight the thing you want to italicize and click the button with the italic “i” in it.
Steeplejack
FYWP. Edit mode different from entry mode.
Italics: <i>A Title of Something</i>.
Roger Moore
@gogol’s wife:
Are you sure about that, or have you just forgotten? Perhaps you should try using a familiar scent to see if it jogs your memory.
Steeplejack
@Roger Moore:
Yeah, but I’ve seen how many people here cannot handle that (or blockquote). And I’m not talking about not getting a multi-paragraph blockquote, I’m talking about people who end up blockquoting an empty line or their own response to what they’re trying to blockquote. For quick and dirty the in-line code might work better, at least for some people.
Roger Moore
@Steeplejack:
How do you get the stupid greater and lesser signs to show up in FYWP? It always treats them as part of a tag when I use them, even when I use the proper HTML escape codes.
ETA: And yes, FYWP decided to eat them again this time.
Steeplejack
@gogol’s wife:
The “less than” and “greater than” symbols are above the comma and period, respectively (shift-comma and shift-period).
Steeplejack
@Roger Moore:
It works for me if I type in the escape codes in the form ampersand + number sign + decimal code.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
Let’s see if I can get this to work:
burnspbesq
@Joseph Nobles:
Heck no! Revel in it. Luxuriate in it. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a stickler for proper grammar. Plus, it pisses off the ignorant and sloppy, which is inherently a good thing.
Steeplejack
@Steeplejack:
FYWP. I give up.
Roger Moore
@Steeplejack:
Hmm: < >
ETA: I’ll have to remember that. One more point in the FYWP universe.
WaterGirl
@Raven: Great photo!
@jeffreyw: Also a great photo. I love that pink nose!
Yutsano
@Steeplejack: I wholeheartedly concur with this sentiment.
Roger Moore
@Yutsano:
Who doesn’t? There’s a reason FYWP has a lexicon entry.
Steve in DC
I made goose today, why, I don’t know. But we had a hunting trip recently and bagged one (no it wasn’t legal at all, well none of it was but with this crew the law is more a loose idea than the law). I shot the goose, so he’s mine.
He’s been stuffed with his own guts, boiled to harden the skin, soaked in cane sugar and orange, and is now sitting over some coals. Will finish him off with some mint but smells nice.
Think Chinese style cooking with French flavoring, I LOVE GEESE FOR EATING, plus that fat renders real damn well. I think I can get some french fries out of it.
My friends dog is freaking the fuck out though and begging for scraps, it’s not even cooked yet! We also spoil him, Mugsy is an ex service rottie my boy Justin took in. He’s blind and has a mean streak but he’s cool. He doesn’t like kids though, but it’s a man day today so he’ll do fine. He knows he will get a leg as tradition so I think he’s more angry about the cooking time than we are!
jeffreyw
@PurpleGirl:
@WaterGirl:
Thanks!
Thanks!
asiangrrlMN
@jeffreyw: D’awwww! Homer has grown up to be such a handsome boy. And, is Bitsy new?!?
@Roger Moore: Your black kitteh is adorable!!! WANT!
@Raven: TUNCHIE doppelganger minus the after-market tail as Steepman said. So cute! So are your babies.
Punctuation: I’m with Amir on punctuation. The punctuation should only go inside the quote mark if it’s part of the quote. Yes, I know that’s not the American way to do it, but I don’t care.
WANT TUNCHIE!
And, food.
Odie Hugh Manatee
I think you’re wrong; you’re not a Republican any more. Now you’re just as error prone as other normal people instead of being wrong all of the time. You rise to above normal when you admit those errors.
That’s not a Republican trait, you have a clue.
Steeplejack
@Roger Moore:
There ya go! Got it working. I had to stop and go get dinner to calm myself. FYWP.
Odie Hugh Manatee
OT: Redstate has a link for donations to fund a bounty to be paid to whoever can provide information that leads to the arrest and prosecution of the person(s) who “swatted” Patterico and Erickkk, Son of Erickkk (plus some other guy).
$2,550 collected so far. Now all they need is a generic (Insert Liberal Here) WANTED poster!
Roger Moore
@asiangrrlMN:
He’s also very friendly and mild-mannered. He’s one of the friendliest cats I’ve ever met, and definitely contradicts the old canard about cats being aloof and barely tolerating people.
Villago Delenda Est
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
Well, I hope that their reach extends beyond the grave, because Breitbart is dead. Or hadn’t they noticed?
Steve in DC
honestly fuck cats and fuck cat owners. I had a relative put in the hospital because cat people kept a cat in a no cat apartment that my kid sister moved into later. Fuck cat people. And most of them advocate this sort of shit because “but we love our furry friends”, that crap is life and death for some people.
People that kill cats are good, people that smuggle them in are bad. Death to all cats.
Roger Moore
@Villago Delenda Est:
I think the wingnuts are hoping to turn him into their version of Tupac Shakur.
Scamp Dog
@Odie Hugh Manatee: You know, the arrest and prosecution of whoever did that is a good thing in my book. Yes, Erikkk, Son of Erikkk is a piece of work (not so sure about Paterico, I’m barely aware of him), but that kind of “prank” can get people killed. I just want Erik to shut up, change his mind, or simply disappear from the blogosphere and media environment, not die violently.
Roger Moore
@Steve in DC:
Have you considered counseling for your anger issues? Maybe you just need to switch to decaf.
Raven
@Roger Moore: Don’t take the bait.
Suffern ACE
@Raven: Don’t worry. While he was out hunting geese, I snuck in and replaced the bait with a vegan-safe soy-based bait alternative.
amk
@Joseph Nobles: kelsey grammar ?
Except that he is an asshole.
Origuy
@Steeplejack: To get < and > to show up in HTML, use the ampersand, followed by “lt” or “gt”, followed by a semicolon. These are called HTML entities. You can use these for a lot of characters that aren’t on your keyboard. A complete list starts here.
«¿♥αβ»
amk
awww, cole. The firebaggers will be so disappointed. They almost had you.
David Koch
@Roger Moore: A hologram of Breitbart will address the Tampa convention.
amk
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
“swatted” swatted or someone was being mean on teh innernetz swatted?
Hoping it is the former one.
Steeplejack
@asiangrrlMN:
Great. I presume you’re interested only in writing for blogs, then. For any kind of professional submission, idiosyncratic spelling and punctuation are “tells” that weigh against your MS.
schrodinger's cat
@jeffreyw: Thanks for all the pics, you has gorgeous kittehs and goggies.
Mike E
Just finished up the weekend with Miss E watching DVDs and went to see Arrietty at the $2 theater. Ghibli never disappoints! Grilled corn and fixed batch #1,211 of BBQ chicken leg quarters. I sent you the recipe, Cole…no pressure.
Steeplejack
@Origuy:
I know that. Thanks for reminding me. It also works the other way, except (as I found out) if you go in and edit the comment; then it gets screwed up. Another FYWP moment.
JoyfulA
@Steeplejack: Thanks for mentioning sink-sank-sunk. I’ve been wondering about my sanity. I’m seeing it everywhere, and “it sunk” just doesn’t pass muster.
I saw an article predicting that the quote-period (or comma) thing will be standard in another decade or two because it’s easier to type and so prevalent on the Internet. I don’t think my eyes will ever adapt to it.
Steeplejack
@Mike E:
I really liked that movie. Saw it in the theater back in March. I love the way they didn’t back off the bittersweet ending. I wish they had just gone ahead and called it The Borrowers, though. (You can’t copyright a title, although, yes, there could be marketing problems, blah, blah, blah. The Secret World of Arrietty is just so clunky.)
Riilism
@Raven: Lovely photo. Would make a beautiful watercolor…
Steeplejack
@JoyfulA:
Nor mine. Too many years of copyediting and close proofreading.
JoyfulA
Copyeditors rewrite such examples so the lc word isn’t the first in the sentence.
Mike E
@Steeplejack: We had a good crowd of mostly 6 and under and they were pretty engaged by the film. I thought it was rather intense at times for a G rating, and a couple of sprites in the audience were a little past their nap time if ya know what I mean. Great to view on a big screen, even if the print was a bit dogeared. Miyazaki is the master.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Scamp Dog:
I wholeheartedly agree. Right now, using the Conservative standard of being guilty until proven innocent, I’m thinking that it’s an internal ratfucking operation done to further the ’cause’. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it until it’s proven otherwise.
They’ve earned my distrust, and earned it well.
@Roger Moore:
Maybe all he needs is a good pussy (in more ways than one). It could partially explain his being an unmitigated asshole, right?
I said “partially” because I think Stevie is an asshole anyways.
shortstop
@Baud: Well, but not every FPer here can admit when he or she has made an error or bad judgment. The fact that Cole can is one of the reasons he’s fun to be around.
Steeplejack
@Mike E:
Yeah, you gotta watch that at times. I recommend Miyazaki all the time, but one woman reamed me because her two daughters freaked out a bit when the parents were turned into pigs in Spirited Away. Okay, okay, I’ll stick with My Neighbor Totoro. If we all were required to watch that once a year, we would live in a much nicer world.
amk
@Origuy: Cool. Thanks. ¶
Odie Hugh Manatee
Hep me, my comment used a BAD WORD and the BJ Mod Gawd (aka FYWP) has decided that it’s not worthy!
Roger Moore
@Steeplejack:
Keep them far, far away from Mononoke, then. Might be wise to keep them away from Nausicaa, too; even Howl’s Moving Castle might be a bit much.
Mike E
@Roger Moore: Spirited Away blew my frikken doors off. Miss E was 7 when we saw it, and we chased that film around town to two other theaters; pure magic. I told a coworker about it and he took his twin 9 yr old girls… they thought it was weird. Oh well.
Steve in DC
@Roger
So you’re OK with people owning animals against the law and contracts and creating asthma and alergic problems for children? If so you should be OK with corporations dumping toxic waste into the drinking water.
Both are fucking WRONG. Cat owners and their like cause health problems for others. Unless you need a cat, it’s not fair to own one and inflict health issues on others. Which is what cats do. It’s worse than second hand smoke if you’ve seen anyone go through the problems.
I have far more contempt for cat owners than I ever could for most others. I’ve seen the people on O2 masks and crippled. Fuck them, and fuck the people that own them. I wouldn’t call the cops to stop a rape against a cat owner, I’d laugh. It’s about time those assholes felt a fraction of the suffering they inflict on others. Hurt them, fight them, mock them. They inflict pain on others for now real reason.
joel hanes
@Steve in DC:
But we had a hunting trip recently and bagged one (no it wasn’t legal at all
I hope you’re joking, or you stole some neighbor’s domestic geese.
Because otherwise, you have just identified yourself as Beyond the Pale, to be shunned and despised by all. There is no fucking excuse for out-of-season hunting of migratory waterfowl.
Steeplejack
@Steve in DC:
Well, he probably thinks “the law is more a loose idea than the law.” You know how that is.
Steve in DC
@joel hanes
Actually there is, they stalk air ports, and people often kill them. We used to all the time in the USN. Killing them to remove them is OK, killing them to eat them is not. What’s the big issue.
I got one, I kept it, oh fucking well.
And to be exact, certain types of geese are never legal to kill for consumption at any time.
Or should I just poison and trap kill them and not eat them? Because that’s legal? Not all laws make sense, a lot of them do not. Blow jobs are still illegal in most places, call the cops!
The truth is the only way we can fight unjust laws is to break them, and point out the idiocy. I smoke pot, I engage in oral sex, I eat the geese I kill…. oh noes!
Steve in DC
@Steeplejack
In general yes, but pet issues are as toxic to some people as dumping toxic waste in their water. I see no difference in attitude or moral high ground between cat owners and the Koch bros, both are evil and should be attacked. Doing things for their own pleasure at human expense.
Best way to solve a cat problem, baseball bat meets their owner, fuck cats and fuck cat people.
Egg Berry
@Steve in DC:
MethAsshole libertarianism is a helluva drug.4tehlulz
OT, but is our medias learning?
Romney won’t repudiate Trump on birther issue
AP story on Yahoo’s front page.
My favorite bit:
>>Romney said Monday evening that while he doesn’t agree with all the people who support him, he appreciates their help to get him at least 50.1 percent of the vote in November.
Think he should’ve given Al Gore a call before unleashing that one.
Smiling Mortician
@Steeplejack: Fucking petard-hoisting. How does it work?
Steve in DC
@Egg
No pro labor with a deep hate for social liberals selling out labor. Not really libertarian at all, though I like them for civil liberties.
I’d put a government ban on cats and dogs, hardly libertarian. And you’d might agree, if you see the harm their hair and dander causes to some. Far worse than smog or smoking, far more vile.
Show me a cat owner, I’ll show them my fist.
amk
Our own steve douche is now reduced to
trollingranting about cats now ? Pathetic. Even for him.The Fat Kate Middleton
@Steeplejack: All you grammar nazis might want to google The Elements of F*king Style, by Chris Baker and Jacob Hansen:
Joseph Nobles
OK, here’s the ashtray/trash can thing. Be careful when you look at it. You might find it looking back.
https://twitter.com/BoloBoffin/status/207285062939582464/photo/1/large
Steeplejack
@The Fat Kate Middleton:
Got it. It’s funny.
Yutsano
@Joseph Nobles: Holy cwap that’s tacky. That’s not even retro-tacky.
Steeplejack
@Joseph Nobles:
That is fugly. Did UltraLounge go out of business?
Joseph Nobles
@Yutsano: I KNOW! I couldn’t even see them the first couple of times they were in place. I think my brain was protecting itself.
Firebert
@amk: He’s achieved Center of the Universe status now. Watch out for the gravity well.
Hill Dweller
@4tehlulz:
That Gallup hit job on Obama was covered with the urgency of a terrorist attack. It makes one wonder if they’ve got the same playbook.
amk
@4tehlulz: shorter mitt – I’ll fuck anything for a win.
gbear
@Joseph Nobles: Umm, are those real flowers or pieces of plastic that will be embedded with dust within a few months?
burnspbesq
@Steve in DC:
I suppose you’d also like to fuck everyone who grows peanuts or harvests shellfish. Because, after all, you are a paragon of intellectual consistency.
Joseph Nobles
@gbear: Oh, yeah, that’s plastic, baby. Fix it and forget it.
amk
teh stoopid burns.
Joseph Nobles
@Steeplejack: You know, the lower half does look like the kind of design for the auditorium areas on the cruise ship I worked for. The first time I walked in, I gasped, but then I realized the most important function of the clashing patterns was to be visible in the half-light of a stage show. That way the older patrons didn’t trip and fall and sue the joint.
I don’t know what the building owners’ excuse is.
Roger Moore
@Steve in DC:
No, I’m OK with people owning cats where they are legally allowed to do so without fear that animal hating sadists will kill their pets for sport. I put off getting a cat until I owned my own place because my previous landlady had a no cats rule. Now that I own my own place and I’m allowed to have one, I think I should be allowed to make my own pet choices in peace. If you have a problem with that, please go fuck yourself with AsiangrlMN’s rusty pitchfork.
PurpleGirl
@Joseph Nobles: That is atrocious and soooooooooooooo tacky and fugly. I bet people put ashes in the fake flowers and miss the actual ash container below.
Roger Moore
@Joseph Nobles:
I think it’s part of a clever plan to make smokers into even more of social pariahs than they already are by making it their fault that something that ugly has been inflicted on the building. That or the interior decorator has some clever The Producers-like scam where he’ll get paid extra for making the place as ugly as possible.
David Koch
@4tehlulz:
So Rmoney would welcome the support of Holocaust deniers, Bernie Madoff, Moonies, Nazis, and Klansmen.
danielx
@Steve in DC:
Steve…most people here, from what I’ve been able to figure out, are pet owners. Myself included. In my own home, in which no one is allergic to cats or dogs. Your political views, fine, whatever. Your views on pets? Killing other people’s pets? From what I can tell your logic goes like this.
1. Relative moved into an apartment that was supposed to be pet free and had a bad allergic reaction because some asshole had a cat/pet there previously.
2. Therefore all cats/dogs are bad and should be killed.
3. You personally are going to beat the shit out of any cat owners that you run across.
“Show me a cat owner, I’ll show them my fist.”
You’d be well advised not to do that, since I’ve met several cat owners who I’m reasonably sure could kick your loud mouthed ass into kindling wood without breaking a sweat. If you want to display your assholery, which is exactly what you’re doing, go do it somewhere else.
Go fuck yourself, and do it today.
mainmati
@PurpleGirl:- and commas. So let’s go all Joyce or e.e.cummings in the comments to avoid the grammar issues.
That said, I am a serious grammar Nazi on my and my colleagues technical reports at work.
Roger Moore
@David Koch:
For as long as he calculates they’ll help his election chances, and not a processor cycle longer.
4tehlulz
@David Koch: That’s not hard to do, since you just described the Washington Times editorial board.
PurpleGirl
@mainmati: Yes, I know what you mean. I end up not making comments on errors I see in comments.
At my last job, I had serious issues with an assistant director and her letter writing skills. When she would send a print order to the printer by my desk, I couldn’t resist marking up the print-out. (She would just send the print order and I’d see papers coming out because she NEVER set it for print current-page only and the whole damn file would start to print. I’d have to stop the print order.)
Chuck Butcher
That’s more than most would ever admit, so maybe “a hint of an idea…”
FlipYrWhig
Good on you, John. At Sadly, No and Edroso, they say “always trust the shorter.” Well, when it comes to the cable news nets, make that “never.”. Not because they’re “corporatists” or some such thing, but because they’re so half-assed.
Jerzy Russian
It is easy to tell the difference with practice. The first one is a burro, and the second one is a burrow.
ReflectedSky
I’m so suspicious of the DNC that I posted a comment backing up your original post. Having read Kay’s many, many detailed posts helped me to trust her reporting on that issue.
So my stupid was reduced thanks to the blog you founded and one of the writers you recruited. Thanks for that. (And thanks Kay, for being awesome.)