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You are here: Home / What About the Long Form

What About the Long Form

by John Cole|  May 29, 201211:21 pm| 78 Comments

This post is in: Serenity Now!

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I seriously hate this country some days:

Yes, Republican Mitt Romney appears eligible to be president, according to a copy of Romney’s birth certificate released to Reuters by his campaign. Willard Mitt Romney, the certificate says, was born in Detroit on March 12, 1947.

His mother, Lenore, was born in Utah and his father, former Michigan governor and one-time Republican presidential candidate George Romney, was born in Mexico.

So on a day when real estate and media mogul Donald Trump was trying to help Mitt Romney by stirring up a new round of questions about whether Democratic President Barack Obama was born in the United States, Romney’s own birth record became a reminder that in the 1968 presidential campaign, his father had faced his own “birther” controversy.

Back then, George Romney – who died in 1995 – was a moderate who was challenging eventual President Richard Nixon in the Republican primaries.

Records in a George Romney archive at the University of Michigan describe how questions about his eligibility to be president surfaced almost as soon as he began his short-lived campaign.

This was an actual news piece. Thank you, Reuters and Ron Fournier.

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  1. 1.

    Spaghetti Lee

    May 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Nice try, Mitto Romniquez! Every True American Birfer knows that if both your parents weren’t born swaddled in an American flag with fireworks going off in the distance, yer not a REAL AMERICAN!

  2. 2.

    Micheline

    May 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    I don’t understand the outrage. To me it is obvious that Romney is not only stupid but so desperate that he would openly embrace Donald Trump. By getting angry you are playing into the right’s hands.

  3. 3.

    Alison

    May 29, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    You and me both, John.

    Fuck that fucking asshole, Trump. Despicable piece of trash.

  4. 4.

    middlewest

    May 29, 2012 at 11:29 pm

    It is an odd coincidence that McCain and Romney have origins south of the border. OR IS IT?!

  5. 5.

    lacp

    May 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    Wasn’t there something a few threads down about religious drug cartels? Not that I’m accusing Willard’s family or anything, but it would be irresponsible not to speculate. I mean, Mountain Meadows, methamphetamine, Mitt….they all start with “m”, don’t they? Coincidence?

  6. 6.

    S. cerevisiae

    May 29, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    I wanna fucking die. Fuck this species.

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    May 29, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    Oh please do it Willard. Embrace your inner birfer and challenge Obama’s birth. You will turn into one of those lunatics they won’t even let be dogcatcher. Your career will die an ignomious death just because you decided you needed the crazy fringe.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 29, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Plenty of people are eligible to be President.

    OvenMitt isn’t qualified to be a fucking dog catcher. His pathetic tenure as governor of Massachusetts demonstrated that clearly.

  9. 9.

    Dork

    May 29, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    Until the state of AZ OKs this birf cert, I reserve the right to doubt that Mitt is actually an actual human.

  10. 10.

    lamh35

    May 29, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    I posted this on the thread earlier, but it fits here better

    Ugh, I was so pissed by the segment on Rachel Maddow where John Harwood was on and basically said that yeah Romney is using Trump’s birtherism to raise money and as a way to “stick it to the lefttis and the Rachel Maddow and MSNBC” and let them know that they dont’ plan to buckle down to the left and that Romney was actually joking about birtherism and the campaign released Romney’s birth certificate today as a way to put the Rachel Maddows and MSNBC of the world that the campaign won’t be apologizing for anything.

    Harwwod basically said that hey what backlash, people already consider Trump a clown, so hey who really cares if Romney dabbles in birtherism…I think Rachel was stunned by Harwood. She seemed speechless that Harwood was actually saying that hey it’s no big deal that the Romney camp is happy to out right court racist idiots like Trump. It took her a moment to try to push back, but it was half-hearted at best since, IMHO, she just seemed shock that Harwood was so blase’ about the whole thing.

    If Harwood is the voice of the village, then I feel sadder than I already felt for the citizens of US who gets their info from feckless hacks like Harwood and the like.

    Rachel intro to Harwood was great, but Harwood basically pissed all over it.

    BTW, This is OT, but I saw FLOTUS on TheView, GMA, and The Daily Show and I can understand why Romney hired Ann Romney a press secretary. Ann Romney ain’t go nothing on Michelle O. She even charmed the pants out of Jon Stewart and basically had him eating out of his hand. Micheele O is def the best surrogate PBO has!

  11. 11.

    jrg

    May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    In other news, DNA evidence, eyewitness accounts, and video footage cleared a man falsely accused of necrophilia, in a case eerily reminiscent of the 1956 conviction of another man for buttfucking a dead possum.

  12. 12.

    Redshift

    May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    I haven’t seen an amateur analysis of the kerning yet, so I can’t possibly accept that birth certificate as authentic.

  13. 13.

    Villago Delenda Est

    May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    Gosh, I guess I owe Yutsano a refreshing fizzy beverage!

  14. 14.

    amk

    May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    yeah, yeah, yeah mitt – Show us your tax-returns you prick.

  15. 15.

    Egg Berry

    May 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: @Yutsano: I think his habit of strapping dogs on the top of his vehicle would disqualify him from dogcatching duties.

  16. 16.

    TaMara (BHF)

    May 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    I don’t even have words. Beyond spoofing.

  17. 17.

    mark

    May 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    did you see this?

    Wisconsin voting machines can’t be trusted.

    the programmer of the voting machines is a GOPer’s wife. singular.

    I CANT POST LINKS!!!!!!! HELP!!!

    wcmcoop.com /members/meet-command-central-the-people-in-charge-of-wisconsin-voting-machines/

    watch out for that space, comment is moderated without it

  18. 18.

    rammalamadingdong

    May 29, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    We live in stupid times

  19. 19.

    amk

    May 29, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    newt had three wives, trump had three wives, limbaugh had three wives. All supporting romney. Is romney a secret mormon ?

  20. 20.

    Yutsano

    May 29, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Heh. Great minds and mind melds and such.

  21. 21.

    piratedan

    May 29, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    @middlewest: obviously they are both beholden to their “hidden heritage”

  22. 22.

    Sloegin

    May 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    Isn’t Detroit Michigan is some kind of exotic vacation destination? Doesn’t sound like part of America to me. Unlike say, Hawaii.

  23. 23.

    Linda Featheringill

    May 29, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    As I remember, Barry Goldwater was born in Arizona before it became a state. During his presidential campaign, somebody filed a suit claiming that he did not qualify for president. The suit was dropped after Goldwater lost the election.

  24. 24.

    David Koch

    May 29, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    every time they talk birtherism it’s a win.

    it repels swing voters.

  25. 25.

    Ash Can

    May 29, 2012 at 11:55 pm

    Apart from the sheer fucking idiocy of this reporting, how does this help Romney? All it does is call even more attention to the fact that he’s embracing a loudmouth birther asshole who got pwned last year by an OBL-plugging president. If he wants to go down this road, that’s fine with me.

  26. 26.

    satanicpanic

    May 29, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: Mitto Romniquez– I lol’d.

  27. 27.

    Linnaeus

    May 29, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    @Sloegin:

    Well, “Detroit” is a French name, after all…

  28. 28.

    Scott S.

    May 29, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Both my parents have been old-school Republicans all their lives. When the media was talking up how great Trump was doing in his campaign, my dad said he’d eagerly vote for Obama if Trump was the GOP nominee. And my mom told me this morning that they were voting against a senatorial candidate *because* he’d been endorsed by Sarah Palin.

    Snuggling up to the crazies only helps Romney with the 27-percenters. The sane members of the voting public see him palling around with circus clowns, and they wonder what the fuck is wrong with him.

  29. 29.

    The Institute For A Meaningful Apocalypse

    May 29, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    I need to be convinced that Mittens Romney was not ‘birthed’ but hatched in a laboratory experiment gone terribly wrong.

  30. 30.

    Cacti

    May 30, 2012 at 12:01 am

    Over/under two months before a national Repub finally drops the N-bomb?

  31. 31.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    May 30, 2012 at 12:01 am

    As someone else said here when I mentioned this in another thread…

    ‘Obama should release twenty years of tax returns and then challenge Rmoney to do likewise’.

    Obama: ‘Does Mitt want to release some more documents with me? Here are twenty years of my tax returns, how about Mitt doing the same.’

    Please happen.

  32. 32.

    Spaghetti Lee

    May 30, 2012 at 12:04 am

    @The Institute For A Meaningful Apocalypse:

    I love your nym.

    @Cacti:

    Depends. Is the convention in less than two months? Either way, I’ll take Gingrich at 5:1 odds.

  33. 33.

    Hill Dweller

    May 30, 2012 at 12:04 am

    @Ash Can:

    Apart from the sheer fucking idiocy of this reporting, how does this help Romney? All it does is call even more attention to the fact that he’s embracing a loudmouth birther asshole who got pwned last year by an OBL-plugging president. If he wants to go down this road, that’s fine with me.

    As I said in the post below this one, I think Willard releasing his birth certificate is going to piss off the media. They’ve been carrying his water for months(getting hammered for it), and probably would have ignored the Trump nonsense, but this was too cute by half. I wouldn’t be surprised if some take it as Romney rubbing it in their face.

  34. 34.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    May 30, 2012 at 12:05 am

    I don’t want to get into hagiography, and I’m no expert on George Romney, but I’m guessing he would not be proud of Willard.

  35. 35.

    Yutsano

    May 30, 2012 at 12:06 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: I think he released his last six years already. He could certainly pile on here. It could get epic.

    @Cacti: Fourth of July. Ten quid says it happens.

  36. 36.

    Scott S.

    May 30, 2012 at 12:07 am

    @Hill Dweller: Maybe, but I don’t think we should underestimate the Village media’s kinky desire to let rich Republicans rub stuff in their faces.

  37. 37.

    satanicpanic

    May 30, 2012 at 12:08 am

    @Cacti: I’ll take no one, because that would be racist. And everyone knows that if you avoid using that word, you can never be racist, no matter how many witch doctor’s heads you photoshop Obama’s face onto.

  38. 38.

    The Institute For A Meaningful Apocalypse

    May 30, 2012 at 12:10 am

    @Scott S.:

    Snuggling up to the crazies only helps Romney with the 27-percenters. The sane members of the voting public see him palling around with circus clowns, and they wonder what the fuck is wrong with him.

    I’m not so sure of that. Propaganda 101, includes the planting of an illegitimate seed to be watered daily, in hopes it takes up root in even the sanest mind to do something stupid (like vote for Romney/wingnut), because that Obama. he looks funny, and I just don’t know, especially those big black floppy ears that are not to be trusted.

  39. 39.

    piratedan

    May 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

    @Cacti: over but just barely, probably happen at the convention amongst their collective euphoria of media spin

  40. 40.

    Hill Dweller

    May 30, 2012 at 12:15 am

    @Yutsano:

    I think he released his last six years already. He could certainly pile on here. It could get epic.

    I think Obama has released 12 years of tax returns at this point. They’ve also voluntarily released their campaign bundlers.

    It won’t be hard for the Obama campaign to weave Romney hiding his bundlers, taking the hard drives from the governor’s office, foreign bank accounts, hiding tax returns, etc. into the narrative of a secretive, shady person hiding his true character.

  41. 41.

    jl

    May 30, 2012 at 12:16 am

    @The Institute For A Meaningful Apocalypse:

    Propaganda 101 also says the con should not be laughable on its face, and birtherism is just about that by now. Why would they go with this when the ‘he’s a soshulist dark person is a lazy spendthrift in over his head and giving all the money to bad bad peopole’ line would work so well?

    Maybe as other commenters have suggested, Romney is an ass who wants to rub stuff in peoples’ faces just because, or he is mightily scared of doing anything, no matter how trivial that might disappoint the crazy base.

  42. 42.

    Cacti

    May 30, 2012 at 12:19 am

    And on an utterly unrelated note…

    The Spurs are now 10-0 in the playoffs, and winners of their last 20 since the end of the regular season.

    Ties them for the 3rd longest win streak in NBA history.

  43. 43.

    West of the Cascades

    May 30, 2012 at 12:27 am

    @Cacti: What are the odds that — after it happens — John Harwood will opine that it doesn’t really matter because it’s really just the GOP’s way of sticking it to the leftists?

  44. 44.

    Mnemosyne

    May 30, 2012 at 12:28 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:

    I do wonder what other documentation Obama has up his sleeve to make the birthers look foolish. I’m guessing that he waits until Romney tries to make an actual claim about, say, Obama’s financial aid forms before he produces them.

  45. 45.

    The Institute For A Meaningful Apocalypse

    May 30, 2012 at 12:30 am

    @jl:

    Why would they go with this when the ‘he’s a soshulist dark person is a lazy spendthrift in over his head and giving all the money to bad bad peopole’ line would work so well?

    Dunno. The lizard brain does what it does, and only other lizard brains know for sure. But if I were to guess, the only thing worse than “a soshulist dark person, is a a lazy spendthrift in over his head and giving all the money to bad bad people” is a furrin person doing these things. Most people get their political news from soundbites of CNN droning in the background, while they go about their lives. And the republicans know this full well.

  46. 46.

    James E. Powell

    May 30, 2012 at 12:31 am

    The appropriate response to all this is a full out assault on the Billionaire Boys Club that is trying to buy this election cycle. This response cannot be done by OFA alone. It has to be carried forward by every living Democrat, plus Russ Feingold.

  47. 47.

    Xenos

    May 30, 2012 at 12:46 am

    Anybody looking for a spot of black humor ought to wander over to memeorandum. It turns out that the momentous court hearing that the Kimberlin kerfuffle was leading up to did not turn out so well for a certain right-wing blogger with anger management issues. He got into a pissing match with the judge, and instead of the evil convicted domestic terrorist being sent to jail we see right-blogger getting the cuffs and being found in contempt.

  48. 48.

    Spaghetti Lee

    May 30, 2012 at 12:48 am

    I’d just like to point out, re: the Texas GOP primary tonight, Mittens got 68% of the vote. He is the only candidate officially in the race at this point, no? Michele Bachmann got about 10,000 votes.

    It seems like even now, Romney can’t break about 70% of the vote in any primary, and I’ve seen it in a few. It’s kinda pathetic.

  49. 49.

    Spaghetti Lee

    May 30, 2012 at 12:53 am

    @Xenos:

    I’m loving the wingnut reaction to all that. “Police state! 1984! If that filthy judge just threw the commie in jail like he was supposed to, none of this would have happened!”

  50. 50.

    jwb

    May 30, 2012 at 12:53 am

    @Spaghetti Lee: I actually got a robo call this afternoon for one of the dudes running against Obama. I have to wonder who was funding that. Also looks like the crazies managed to force a number of runoffs in the GOP primary. should make for good yucks, except if crazy wins primary, crazy will probably still win general election in most of those races.

  51. 51.

    Mnemosyne

    May 30, 2012 at 12:54 am

    @Xenos:

    Once again proving the old saying that a man who insists on representing himself in court has a fool for a client.

  52. 52.

    amk

    May 30, 2012 at 12:54 am

    @Xenos: Loving it.

  53. 53.

    Richard W. Crews

    May 30, 2012 at 12:57 am

    Mitt’s Grandfather FLED to Mexico as a die-hard polygamist.His Dad was born there, in what has to be seen as fugitive or some sort of alien status. So HOW did he get back? It was pretty loose (Free?) back then, maybe they just … came back. Actually illegal. But no problem ; Mitt’s an Anchor Baby!

  54. 54.

    Richard W. Crews

    May 30, 2012 at 1:02 am

    Oh Yeah! The dog on the roof! Why isn;t much more made about the fact that he now sped down the road with a WET dog on the roof? A much colder more vuknerable dog. And didn’t the interview (which I can’t find) end with the Mittling saying the dog ran away at their destination? These are two important points; callousness and endangering in one, and a vote of no confidence from the pet.

  55. 55.

    GregB

    May 30, 2012 at 1:07 am

    Trump needs to release the birth certificate for the chinchilla that lives on his head.

  56. 56.

    Mnemosyne

    May 30, 2012 at 1:15 am

    @GregB:

    I dunno, that animal on his head always looked more like one of these guys to me. And what says, “Look at me, I’m a short-fingered vulgarian” better than having an endangered species live on top of your head?

  57. 57.

    piratedan

    May 30, 2012 at 1:15 am

    @GregB: true, just because its AKC registered is no substitute for the long form

  58. 58.

    cckids

    May 30, 2012 at 1:20 am

    @Mnemosyne:

    I do wonder what other documentation Obama has up his sleeve to make the birthers look foolish. I’m guessing that he waits until Romney tries to make an actual claim about, say, Obama’s financial aid forms before he produces them.

    Maybe. I’m Obama’s age, tho, and I couldn’t lay hands on my original loan paperwork to . . . well, get elected president.

    He was right, about the original BC deal. Even after he “released” it, they found stuff “wrong” with it, want his thesis, grades, financial aid forms, Christ only knows what next. It isn’t an actual issue, it is the mere FACT of Obama as he is, as President, that is making them so wacky. THIS CANNOT STAND! They will continue to find crap pretexts to challenge him, because the media will run it & run with it.

  59. 59.

    James E. Powell

    May 30, 2012 at 1:29 am

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    But the corporate press/media never runs with a story that “Republicans are in disarray!” so it just doesn’t matter.

  60. 60.

    Mike G

    May 30, 2012 at 1:36 am

    Shorter wingnut logic if Rmoney were darker-skinned:
    “Detroit” — isn’t that a FRENCH word?
    It’s within spitting distance of CANADA!
    And he’s the son of a Messican immigrant!

  61. 61.

    Calouste

    May 30, 2012 at 1:39 am

    @middlewest:

    And then there was that guy before them. Ricardo Chenez or something.

  62. 62.

    Donald G

    May 30, 2012 at 1:44 am

    @Redshift:

    I haven’t seen an amateur analysis of the kerning yet, so I can’t possibly accept that birth certificate as authentic.

    Look at the image Reuters has posted. At the top, it says “Certificate of Live Birth”, not “Birth Certificate” (which, as we’ll recall, was one of the birthers’ zombie objections to Obama’s certificate).

    And at the bottom: Look at the date issued: “January 18, 2012”.

    Clearly, this is not a copy of the original birth certificate, or the so-called “long form” or “vault copy”.

    And,look,it has the word “VOID” running repeatedly down both sides of the copy.

    What is Mitt trying to hide by foisting this obvious inadequate forgery upon our braindead lamestream media? TRUE PATRIOTS want to know.

    RELEASE THE LONG FORM, MITT!
    WHERE’S THE VAULT COPY, MITT?

    C’mon Arpaio and Trump, can’t you see the real alien is hiding in plain sight? Mitt can’t produce a real copy of his birth certificate because he actually wasn’t born.

    Instead, Mitt was constructed in a secret underground robotics facility at General Motors from technology acquired from aliens who were three and a half months later shot down over Roswell while en route back home to cover up the GM-Grey Alien conspiracy to put their android protege into the White House and to sell us into slavery to their extraterrestrial masters.

    Really, it’s the only thing to explain why the last fifty years in this country doesn’t make any sense. JFK, MLK, Nixon, Watergate, Reagan, Bush v Gore, the War on Terror, Citizens United, the Tea Party, Birtherism – they’ve all been tactics to soften us up, to render us stupid and weak to pave the way for their true weapon of mass destruction: MITT.

    I’d bet 5 Ningnis (or One Triganic Pu) on it, or my name isn’t D’ohrly Taitz.

  63. 63.

    mdblanche

    May 30, 2012 at 2:16 am

    This so-called birth certificate is an obvious forgery. Everyone knows the Rombot was built on an assembly line in a bad part of Tijuana.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: My opinion of George Romney has plummeted in the past few months. If he was such a piss-poor parent, how great could he have been?

  64. 64.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    May 30, 2012 at 2:19 am

    @Yutsano:

    Twenty years would be better because it would cover more years, making it harder for Rmoney to ‘tidy up’ the mess that happens after releasing his returns.

    If he even/ever releases them.

    @Mnemosyne:

    I would really love to see some “rope-a-dope” pulled on that.

  65. 65.

    Yutsano

    May 30, 2012 at 3:04 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: He filed an extension for this year, which means he doesn’t have to show his work until October 15th. If he owed though, that was due April 17th. I’m not sure putting things off until just before Election Day will work in his favour.

  66. 66.

    karen

    May 30, 2012 at 4:31 am

    @mark:

    You know this is the truth?

  67. 67.

    Duane

    May 30, 2012 at 6:17 am

    wow i actually went to the lame article by Rueters and rommney really released a certificate of live birth that was issued this year…… I mean wtf??? and the story doesnt even mention that these are the points that the birfers were going crazy over….. mitbot 2.0 attempt at being cute should really backfire bc it shows just how common it is for folks to 1) not have the original birth certificate and 2) the common document is called a certificate of live birth.
    I hold no illusions that these points will be picked up by anyone.

  68. 68.

    kay

    May 30, 2012 at 6:38 am

    @lamh35:

    Political media think birthers are zany eccentrics.

    They don’t get why it’s offensive. That’s because they’re dumb as rocks, and they don’t listen.

    It’s not they don’t care that tens of millions find it offensive and hate-filled and corrosive.

    It’s that they don’t KNOW. Three years, and they still don’t get it. They’ll never get it. They’re not listening.

  69. 69.

    kay

    May 30, 2012 at 6:51 am

    @Duane:

    It doesn’t matter what he releases.

    Birthers are what you get when you kowtow to obsessive hate-driven stalkers. They can’t be appeased, because it isn’t rational.

    Obama knew it, but media wouldn’t let up, so of course they simply upped the ante when he released the birth certificate.

    It’s really disgusting behavior, on the part of all of the actors. Just shameful.

  70. 70.

    Nina

    May 30, 2012 at 7:29 am

    Romney’s birth certificate is clearly invalid since it does not contain the time of birth. Astrologers need to know this.

    Long form needed now!

  71. 71.

    Omnes Omnibus

    May 30, 2012 at 7:44 am

    Look at the image Reuters has posted. At the top, it says “Certificate of Live Birth”, not “Birth Certificate” (which, as we’ll recall, was one of the birthers’ zombie objections to Obama’s certificate).

    I feel their pain. I have a Driver License in my wallet, not a Driver’s License. Now I need to take the bus to work.

  72. 72.

    Corpus Christy

    May 30, 2012 at 7:46 am

    It’s ironic, or perhaps moronic, but in a way stupid news articles are why I like this country. Freedom of expression, in particular of the press, is the only thing I’m “proud” of as an American. Seriously, it’s the only thing Merkins have over other countries. So when something idiotic appears in print I suck it up because it’s the price one pays for freedumb.

  73. 73.

    Bex

    May 30, 2012 at 9:02 am

    @Cacti: Rick Perry, who will then say he was just being nostalgic about his “ranch.”

  74. 74.

    Linda Featheringill

    May 30, 2012 at 9:40 am

    @Donald G:

    Birthers:

    Remember the story of a few days back about the Arizona Secretary of State who was going to investigate Obama’s birth? A group of troublemakers sent him a petition, with 15,000 signatures attached, to ask him to investigate the rumor that Romney is not a human but is in fact a unicorn. No word yet about how that investigation is going.

  75. 75.

    Bill

    May 30, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    Mitt Romney, just another Mexican “anchor baby”!

  76. 76.

    louc

    May 30, 2012 at 2:20 pm

    @Donald G: That was my reaction: wait a minute, didn’t the birfers call Obama’s original “short form” birth cert into question because it said “certificate of live birth.” And where are all the particulars such as the hospital in which he was born, the parents’ races, etc.,etc.

    How can Romney get away with this? We demand the original vaulted long-form birth certificate!

  77. 77.

    Donald G

    May 30, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @louc:

    @Donald G: That was my reaction: wait a minute, didn’t the birfers call Obama’s original “short form” birth cert into question because it said “certificate of live birth.” And where are all the particulars such as the hospital in which he was born, the parents’ races, etc.,etc.

    Yes,indeedy, but like most birther objections, it’s completely specious.

    I happen to have two copies of by birth certificate… one issued to my parents by the Commonwealth of Viriginia in 1966 which has all the information on it that Birthers expect to be on it (a.k.a the “long form”). At the top, it’s labeled “Certificate of Live Birth”.

    Some years back, I temporarily misplaced it after a move, so I got a replacement. The only thing the Commonwealth would let me have was something that looked like the document Romney and Obama have provided, what the Birthers like to call “the short form”. It, too, is labeled at the top “Certificate of Live Birth”.

    In the 1990’s, my wife and I had two children, and the only documents were were able to get from the respective states in which the children were born are documents that Birthers would reject for being short-form “Certificates of Live Birth” if they ever ran for public office without the benefit of being pale-skinned blond people with Scots-Irish surnames.

    Do the states even provide today’s parents with the so-called long-form birth certificates anymore with the type of information birthers insist be on the such certificates of certain presidential candidates?

    If laws of ballot-access in the states were changed to require only such certificates in the form the Birthers desire, would an entire generation basically be disallowed from running for public office?

  78. 78.

    Stentor

    May 31, 2012 at 3:03 am

    Yes, but is he a unicorn? We demand the truth. Show us your long form Not-A-Unicorn-Certificate.

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