Off to a bbq, despite it being overcast.
Loyola beat Maryland the other day in the National Championship Lacrosse game, which means that three schools from Baltimore have won the championship (Maryland and Johns Hopkins being the other two), and my mother wants to know if any other city has three different colleges which have won a national championship in the same collegiate sport. Anyone know?
West of the Cascades
Boston – men’s ice hockey – Boston College, Boston University, Harvard
cathyx
Really? You’re mom wants to know this? How odd. I think she was just making conversation with you. It’s hard to know what to talk about with your children sometimes. Maybe you could visit her more often and just chit chat with her.
Spaghetti Lee
Well, UM isn’t from Baltimore per se (the campus is in a small town closer to DC than Baltimore).
I’m not 100% sure, but if there was any I’d guess volleyball or water polo, the city in question being LA (USC, UCLA, and then Marymount or someone). West coast schools in general dominate those sports year in and year out.
Wendy
Boston, if you count Harvard (BU, BC and Harvard in ice hockey).
(Also, on behalf of my alma mater: Screw BU, Harvard too!)
lamh35
this sure is a large range between numbers ain’t it? It’s because Romney’s lawyers asked for another extension on the forms…I’m guessing the extensions will be asked for until November 7th after Romney has won election or not if Romney loses.
Surprise! Mitt Romney is still rich
Linnaeus
We now have private liquor sales here in Washington, so I’m going to mosey on down to the Safeway a few blocks away and see what they’ve got.
gaz
@Linnaeus: I heard the liquor stores were going to be privatized, but they sell the stuff at Safeway now? That just seems odd to this lifelong WA resident.
I figured that they’d still have Liquor stores, but those stores would be privately owned and operated. * shrug * doesn’t matter to me I suppose, since I don’t drink.
Yutsano
@Linnaeus: Probably not much. Changes in supply chains have a few initial hiccups at first. I bet the selection is gonna be crap though. And more expensive.
cathyx
@Linnaeus: Congratulations.
Raven
LIU, St John’s and CCNY all won the NIT when it was a more respected basketball tournament than the NCAA.
Teresa
*snort* Colleges have sports? lol I don’t follow sports.
MikeJ
@Linnaeus: Be prepared for not only the 28% tax, but also the $2.50 per bottle surtax.
That said, Metropolitan Market had Bombay Sapphire for $19.99/bottle, $8.00 off for their opening day sale.
MikeJ
@MikeJ: Whoops, sorry, got the rate wrong. 20.5%, plus $2.83 per bottle.
phantomist
college hockey:(5)
Michigan
Michigan state
Lake superior state
Michigan tech
Northern Michigan
Linkmeister
@Spaghetti Lee: Maybe baseball too. SC and UCLA used to be powerhouses, and somebody else might have snuck in.
Dave
If you want to be a little loose with geography, you could include San Francisco, Stanford and Cal (NCAA Men’s Basketball)
Punchy
Whats Sullivan think of lacrosse championships?
Jeff Spender
You know, despite U of Michigan’s horrible football and basketball programs, you can always depend on the hockey program.
I love U of M hockey games. SO much fun. Lot of fond memories.
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
Looks like the answer is none. UM is in College Park, Harvard is in Cambridge. The MI example is towns all over the state. Not sure about NY, but I’m guessing LIU and CCNY aren’t in NYC.
jl
I cannot believe people in WV would eat BBQ on an overcast day.
Unheard of.
For the safety of all concerned, Cole should confiscate the food and email out to BJ readers who are experiencing suitable BBQ weather. I will check back to see that it is done.
Also, I forgot to spout around that IMHO the whole debate about stimulus versus deficit is bogus, since both taxes and government spending can be increased to get a mix of stimulus and deficit that is best. Below are two links about it, first from a blog post at Mark Thoma’s Economists View blog, and second a serendipitous short free sample page on it from a textbook (which should be free to all for viewing).
Shiller: The Balanced Budget Multiplier
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2011/07/shiller-the-balanced-budget-multiplier.html
textbook one pager intro
http://wps.prenhall.com/wps/media/objects/1310/1341480/ragan_econ_11ce_Ch22_topic.pdf
So, we can have stimulus and control over the deficit, especially in times like these where old school hydraulic Keynesian theory will work, at least in the short run.
Only problem is that no one is willing to cancel the very failed and very harmful, and very did not deliver at all as promised Bush tax cuts on the rich, and other tax gimmicks for rich financial types.
Jeff Spender
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
Yep. I don’t really know if there’s an example. I’m not so good with following collegiate sports unless I’m significantly invested in the team (this pretty much means only MSU and U of M).
Raven
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Boston College is not in Boston and it’s not a college.
Both Sides Do It
Women’s volleyball, baby
LA produced champions from UCLA, USC, and Long Beach State. (LBS is part of the Greater LA Metropolitan Area, buuuuuuuut pretty close).
Ash Can
And in other news, US nuns tell the Vatican to go eat shit and bark at the moon.
beltane
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: CCNY is the City College of New York and it is most definitely located in NYC. Long Island University has a Brooklyn campus so it is also located in NYC.
Valdivia
@jl:
love when people in BJ just drop knowledge :)
thanks for the links.
joeyess
Any Balloon Juicers in the KC area?
phantomist
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
Sorry. Reading comprehension fail.
lamh35
So I’m reading a list of 25 greatest love songs. And the songs that I like are ole school R&b joints.
Sometimes I really think I was born in the wrong era (although, I’m happy to be born after Civil Rights and school desegration ) or I’ve just always had an old soul .
This song is one of my favorite songs evah and has been in my music collection since I was like 15 (I’m 35 now).
otis redding -these arms of mine
Oh and it doesn’t hurt that it’s used in a scene from my favorite movie of all time…Dirty Dancing! RIP Patrick Swayze.
Both Sides Do It
Same with men’s volleyball, although UCLA and USC between them have won about 20 of the 42 championships, so that’s not as impressive a piece of trivia.
Mister Papercut
@Dave:
Likewise with Carolina, Duke and NC State.
J.W. Hamner
@Wendy:
BC Sucks! :)
Valdivia
@lamh35:
I have a very weak spot for love songs in Spanish and Italian. Probably because I grew up reading spanish poetry these songs affect me so much more than others. So I too feel the dislocation of time/space you speak of regarding love songs.
Though, aren’t most love songs, songs about heartache?
Spaghetti Lee
@lamh35:
I think the paucity of great love songs recently is because most musicians of this generation are in love with themselves first and foremost.
Linnaeus
@gaz:
The new law is written so that liquor merchants have to have at least 10,000 square feet of space to sell liquor. There is an exception for smaller stores in rural areas where there are no larger stores in the area. So that means in a city like Seattle, it’ll be the stores like Costco, Safeway, QFC, etc. who will be selling the liquor.
@Yutsano & @MikeJ: Oh, I’m definitely prepared for the smaller selections and higher prices, at least in the short term. We’ll see how that eventually plays out, but I never really thought I-1183 was about lower prices and better selection anyway.
JustBeingPedantic
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
LIU (the original campus is in downtown Brooklyn, the Long Island campus was originally as C.W. Post College), CCNY (the Manhattan campus of the City University of New York is in Harlem) and St. John’s (in Jamaica, Queens) are all in New York City.
Linnaeus
@Valdivia:
Many love songs are about heartache. But not this one!
J.W. Hamner
@Spaghetti Lee:
There is a University of Maryland campus in Baltimore. Apparently they are “the founding campus”, so it’s not even as dodgy as these NYC claims about Long Island being in NYC by telepathy.
lamh35
Not a love song, but damn if you ain’t gonna be waving your hands like a church wave at Etta James perfromance of this song. The first 1:30mins GOLDEN!
Etta James Something’s Got A Hold On Me
Valdivia
@Linnaeus:
Yay! A happy love song. I think there should be two lists: one of sad, heartachy songs and another of just full of joy love songs. This one is a recent favorite of mine in the happy love song category (I know, Eurovision, I am weak!)
gogol's wife
@joeyess:
Born and raised there but don’t live there now.
I wanted to tell you — I saw in the Memorial Day thread after it was dead that you recommended the book on the B-17s for my husband. It was mentioned on a thread here a while back, and I did get it for him then, and he really liked it.
Litlebritdifrnt
What is wrong with the United States that you have a complete and utter problem with liquor? I mean do you not realize how fucking juvenile it makes you all look? You somehow do not believe that your citizens are not able to decide whether or not to buy booze? I am absolutely and utterly amazed at your infantile handling of this issue. There are still counties here in NC that are dry. I mean WTF. Booze is legal, throughout the US, and yet there are counties here in NC that some how override Federal law and make it illegal. Are you people fucking serious?
Jamey
USC, UCLA, and Pepperdine (which is in LA County, and as close to LA as Cambridge is to Boston) in Men’s Volleyball.
kth
If we are counting NIT pre-1968 (say), LaSalle, Villanova, and Temple all won one or the other, and are all Philly (metro in ‘Nova’s case).
tofubo
perrspective
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0xkafQV651r36r53o1_500.jpg
Anoniminous
A tender love song … not from Harry Nilsson.
(NSFW)
PeakVT
Any Elliot Abrams haters in the house? PRI’s The World used him in a story on foreign policy for some reason I can’t fathom.
SiubhanDuinne
@Raven:
Heh. Not unlike the Moral Majority of yesteryear.
lamh35
The worse thing to happen to this song was Michael Bolton. And don’t get me wrong I like Michael Bolton, but ain’t no way he sang this one like Percy does.
I don’t know who this woman was that Percy was singing about, but damn dude sound like he hurting, and he’s singing about love right?
Percy Sledge – When a Man Loves A Woman
jl
@Valdivia:
” Though, aren’t most love songs, songs about heartache? ”
Probably, but if it’s norteño, still fun.
Flaco Jimenez and Oscar Tellez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hb7gMVazWJI
Valdivia
@lamh35:
I agree. He made it impossible to enjoy.
@jl:
ah! yes, that is heartache on steroids my friend!
Hill Dweller
It is nearly impossible to overstate just how awful the media has become in this country.
Linnaeus
@Litlebritdifrnt:
The 21st Amendment (the one that repealed national Prohibition) leaves to the states the power to regulate alcohol, and that’s been (generally) interpreted broadly enough that states can ban alcohol or delegate that power to counties and municipalities.
chopper
@lamh35:
i celebrate his entire catalog.
PurpleGirl
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: LIU is Long Island University and it has a campus in Brooklyn; CCNY is City College of New York and is definitely in Manhattan.
chopper
@Linnaeus:
last i checked the 21st amendment hasn’t been incorporated. so states can take a wide stance on the issue.
Stuck in the Funhouse
@Litlebritdifrnt:
LOL, Crazy, ain’t it. I grew up in a dry county in east KY, so we had bootleggers to get our likker, bug eyed coots selling hard likker to anyone with money, usually up some dark gravel road with a run down Airstream trailer modified like a drive through at Burger King.
And the politics of the situation had the bootleggers teaming up with the Baptist preachers, to keep the status quo of commerce and baby jeebus alive and in some kind of unholy alliance.
I lost several friends due to them being 16, stupid, and able to buy hard whiskey and then die behind the wheel. I was nearly one of those stats. The preachers couldn’t say where this fit in the bible. Welcome to America, and especially the loony south. The land of cake and eat it too.
beltane
@PeakVT: I’d like to say PRI is doing its part in rehabilitating the neocons but that would imply the neocons were ever disgraced in the way they should have been.
lamh35
Even before Obama, I was raised on Al Green.
Al Green – Let’s Stay Together
Best thing about Al Green’s performances back in da day…that damn pinkie ring. It was always there. Was that just 70’s fashion or what?
ETA: You can’t do Let’s Stay Together without listening to “Love and Happiness” next!
Raven
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
they call Alabama the Crimson Tide
they call me Deacon Blue
arguingwithsignposts
@Spaghetti Lee:
FTFY.
Anais Mitchell – Your Fonder Heart, for instance.
jl
some cheerful polkas, to cheer people up.
POLKA SANTA RITA
http://youtu.be/1bI4qsYH90A
Mike in NC
@Linnaeus:
Well, as Mitt Romney said about Planned Parenthood: “We’re going to get rid of that, by the way”. The only amendment the Republicans favor is the 2nd. The rest can go away, and also too the Bill of Rights. They never cease telling us that we peons have no “rights” (like voting), only “privileges”.
Valdivia
@jl:
loving the musical links. Norteno and Polkas? :)
I may need to whip out the aguardiente to listen to all this!
SiubhanDuinne
@Ash Can:
Preach it, Sisters!
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@beltane:
@JustBeingPedantic:
@PurpleGirl:
Thanks for the clarification. I knew I was going out on a limb without looking it up first. Almost signed off that comment with “Flame away!”
lamh35
@lamh35:
My fav part of the Love and Happiness performance first when he began just showing off his vocal stylings, and when the baseline hits and Rev Al stomps his foot almost felt like I was back in a church in NOLA…LOL
Just in case ya missed it…lol!
Love and Happiness
JustBeingPedantic
@Jamey:
You’ve never been to Boston, or even looked at a map of Boston, have you? Cambridge is just across the Charles River, unlike Pepperdine in Malibu, which is about twenty miles from UCLA and thirty miles from USC.
And they both fail John’s original “in the same city” test (as does his suggestion about Baltimore; as others have noted, the University of Maryland, home of the Terrapins, is in College Park).
Anoniminous
OK …
Love Song or ___________?
ETA: although Butler’s voice isn’t up to the score.
Raven
@JustBeingPedantic: Who gives a fuck anyway. Colleges should be in college towns, not cities like that fucking North Avenue Trade school.
eta, Holy chit, thanks!
JustBeingPedantic
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:
Happy to be of service.
SiubhanDuinne
@Linnaeus:
It’s been only a few months that we in Atlanta have actually been able to purchase liquor (including beer and wine) on Sundays. Deep South religulous Blue Laws.
Raven
Love at the Five and Dime, Nanci
SiubhanDuinne
@Raven:
Might want to check for typos.
JustBeingPedantic
@Raven:
Flamed for geography? Wow! Gotta love Balloon Juice!
BTW, WTF is the North Avenue Trade School?
Raven
@SiubhanDuinne: The great folk artist that died last week triggers a filter but that didn’t?
Valdivia
@SiubhanDuinne:
Good ole Manhattan only began allowing it in the last few years. And only after 12. Because in the morn you go to church.
Also: weird law in SC that you can only buy those little bottles? WTF? Are they in hawk to the minibar bottlers or what?
Raven
@JustBeingPedantic: Georgia Tech
Not flamed for geography, I had a typo that was a nasty slur against our Jewish brothers and sisters. Fortunately my pal knew it was a typo.
arguingwithsignposts
@Valdivia: They changed the little bottle law a few years back, fyi. The argument was that the little bottles would give an accurate measure for mixed drinks, when what happened was, bartenders would deliver less liquor without them, so people were getting more drunk on the little bottles.
p.a.
if u r going to include UMd as a Ballmer school u may as well ad Navy to the lax list even though their championships came before lacrosse was an NCAA sport.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Linnaeus: At my Safeway, A 3 litre bottle of Sailor Jerry Rum priced at $39.95 after tax, $51 and some change, the woman buying the rum was PISSED!!! And people’s eyeballs were falling out. Conservative talkers, Ayn Rand devotees call your office
SiubhanDuinne
@JustBeingPedantic:
Some know it as the Georgia Institute of Technology. Ramblin’ Wrecks. Yellow Jackets.
@Raven:
I know, right? Also too, the Mayor of Newark.
Valdivia
@arguingwithsignposts:
oh good to know. I was stuck in Columbia for a conference during a snowstorm in the east coast and 2 days turned into a week. I was mystified by those bottles!
SiubhanDuinne
@Valdivia:
First prize is a week in Columbia. Second prize is a week in Columbia in a snowstorm.
Mr Stagger Lee
@Linkmeister: If you want to play fast and loose Cal State Fullerton?
Valdivia
@SiubhanDuinne:
biggest grin! If only you had seen me getting into the elevator on Saturday night, when a bunch of very prim old ladies gawked at the wine bottle in my hand (knowing about blue laws I bought a bottle in the restaurant at the hotel to have with me on sunday!). Like I was Jezebel incarnate. And I wasn’t even wearing one of my usual outfits! ;)
SiubhanDuinne
@Raven:
:-)
You’d do the same if the situation were reversed, and I feel confident it will be, someday.
SiubhanDuinne
@Valdivia: LOL
Valdivia
@SiubhanDuinne:
I knew you would appreciate that. :)
I was very tempted to pretend I was taking a call from a ‘client’ on my cell phone just to mess with their heads. I know I am incorrigible.
Suffern ACE
@J.W. Hamner: LIU is in Brooklyn. The division I campus is in Brooklyn. When the won the NIT, their only campus was in Brooklyn. Now the interesting fact about the actual long island campus is that it was founded on the grounds of the mansion formerly owned by Marjorie Post. I would have posted this earlier, except that Majorie Post was worth clicking through in the Wikipedia article and I got a little lost keeping track of her many husbands, and those of her daughters. But there you have your answer. Now in case you were wondering, Barbara Hutton was not the daughter of EF Hutton, Majorie’s 2nd husband, but his brother, FL Hutton and Edna Woolworth. The Hutton brothers had a knack for marrying heiresses.
Raven
@Suffern ACE: The Blackbirds! The came to Illinois to play in the NIT in the late 70’s-early 80’s.
khead
I’m not even reading through the other 90 posts to see if anyone else said:
Who gives a shit – it’s lacrosse.
Linnaeus
@SiubhanDuinne:
In Michigan, where I grew up, you couldn’t buy liquor before 12 noon on Sundays, but I think that’s changed, at least in the county where I grew up.
@Mr Stagger Lee:
That doesn’t surprise me. To be fair, we’ll see what happens to prices over the long term, but I think a lot of people bought into the “competition” rhetoric and inferred from that that prices would necessarily be lower as a result.
Seonachan
Parts of Harvard and BC are in Boston.
Linnaeus
@Mike in NC:
Yeah, the conservative commitment to federalism is not as consistent as their rhetoric about it is.
Mike in NC
@SiubhanDuinne:
Amen to that. Went there three years ago to adopt a kitten and the sheer number of cops on the street made prospects of a trip to North Korea seem attractive.
The Disgruntled Chemist
Like others have said, University of Maryland is nowhere near Baltimore. For Baltimore to have three NCAA lacrosse champions, you’re going to have to wait for Morgan State to reconstruct their Div I lacrosse program or for UMBC to get serious about something other than their chess team.
Uncle Cosmo
Just for clarification, the so-called “founding campus” of the University of Maryland (generally referred to as UMAB for “U of Md At Baltimore”) has no NCAA sports teams. Among other things, it doesn’t have an undergraduate program–it’s the medical, dentistry, law, nursing, social work, pharmacy & law schools.
There are in fact 5 undergraduate campuses that I know of within the Baltimore City limits: Loyola, Johns Hopkins, the University of Baltimore, Morgan State University and Coppin State University, the last 2 historically black schools.
There is an undergraduate campus of the University of Maryland system in the near vicinity–UMBC–but the BC stands for Baltimore County, a completely separate political subdivision from the City of Baltimore (whose standing in the State of Maryland political hierarchy is equivalent to a 24th county). Located in the southwest Baltimore suburb of Catonsville, UMBC (the source of my master’s degree FWIW) is one of the 2 national college chess powerhouses, duking it out with UT Dallas for the national championship over most of the last ‘leventy-seven years.
Yeah, I know, TMI…
Baud
@Linnaeus:
Conservatives hate federalism because big business hates federalism. Dealing with states — even the business-friendly ones — is annoying.
LosGatosCA
@phantomist:
If you’re going statewide, heck Florida, FSU, Miami in football.
SF Bay Area – Stanford, Cal, San Francisco basketball
North Carolina – UNC, NC State, Duke basketball
PA- Penn State, Pittsburgh, Penn football
Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason
@The Disgruntled Chemist: Gonna have to be Morgan State, then, since UMBC is in Baltimore County, not the City.
And cities were specified by John’s Mom, not suburbs, metro areas, states, or tri-state areas. To be ridiculously pedantic.
The Disgruntled Chemist
@Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: I actually checked before I posted the comment: somehow, UMBC’s mailing address is in Baltimore.
Chet
In other sports news, a New York Met has thrown a no-hitter. Only took 50 years and 8,000+ games.
J.W. Hamner
@The Disgruntled Chemist:
Do people really not know that University of Maryland, Baltimore exists? It’s right between Lexington Market and Camden Yards… how much more Baltimore can you get?
No, there are no athletic teams there, but if you get your MD, JD, or DDS from University of Maryland you are getting it in Baltimore.
Frank
@Spaghetti Lee: @Spaghetti Lee: @Spaghetti Lee: @Spaghetti Lee: If you count cal state Fullerton (as goog as UM) then with USC and ucla baseball and maybe more
Mnemosyne
WTF, nobody remembers poor Hank Gathers?
UCLA, USC and Loyola Marymount, all in basketball, all located in Los Angeles, Cali-for-ny-a.
burnspbesq
@khead:
Lax is the future. Get with the program.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
Finding three schools in the same city that have won a D1 national championship is a phenomenon you will only find on the East and West Coasts. Even being as loose with the definition of “same city” being used in the examples, you won’t find three D1 school in cities between the Appalachians and the Rockies at all, let alone winning. Milwaukee has Marquette and UW-Milwaukee. Chicago has the University of Chicago (which doesn’t have any sports teams but is still a member of the Big
1310. I think New Orleans has a couple. Dallas has multiple teams that play D1 baseball, but I don’t know if places like Dallas Baptist are really D1 schools. Rice and the University of Houston are together.And so on. Things are a lot more spread out in these parts. The entire state of Minnesota only has one true D1 school, UM-Twin Cities, although five schools in the state play D1 hockey (UMTC, UM-Duluth, Bemidji State, St Cloud State, and Minnesota State-Mankato (which is pretty obviously the inspiration for the university in the old sitcom Coach)).
There are only three schools anywhere that have won a D1 women’s ice hockey title and two of them (UMTC and UMD) are in the same state and Wisconsin is close by the standards we use in the upper midwest.
burnspbesq
@J.W. Hamner:
No, there are no athletic teams there, but if you get your MD, JD, or DDS from University of Maryland you are getting it in Baltimore.
Similar to UC San Francisco, which consists of a med school and Hastings College of the Law.
burnspbesq
@Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN):
The University of Chicago plays Division 3 sports; it’s in a league with NYU, Rochester, Carnegie-Mellon, Case Western Reserve, and Washington U. (St. Louis).
There are three schools located in Chicago that play Division 1 sports: DePaul, Loyola, and UIC.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@Mnemosyne: Loyola Marymount never won a basketball title.
Three schools actually within the city of Los Angeles have won a D1 baseball title: UCLA, the University of Spoiled Children and Pepperdine. You don’t have to extend it very far to get two more: Cal State Long Beach and Cal State Fullerton.
Tissue Thin Pseudonym (JMN)
@burnspbesq: Ah. I didn’t realize that UIC played D1 sports. They dropped hockey about two decades ago and I stopped paying attention.
burnspbesq
@JustBeingPedantic:
There are seven schools in the City of New York that attempt, with varying degrees of success, to play Division 1 sports: Manhattan, Fordham, Columbia, St. John’s, LIU, St. Francis, and Wagner.
J.W. Hamner
@burnspbesq:
They would be similar if there was no Med/Law/Dental Surgery schools elsewhere in the UC system.
JustBeingPedantic
@Raven:
No, I was the one being flamed for geographic pedantry, which is a perfectly fine and expected thing in Balloon Juice comments. You fixed your typo as soon as it was brought to your attention, which is a very good thing, also, too.
MattR
@burnspbesq: If you are going to look at things that way, it opens things up quite a bit.
@The Disgruntled Chemist: That may be true, but the UMBC campus is outside the city limits.
My question is – Are there two schools that are closer together geographically that Hopkins and Loyola that have both won a championship in the same sport? I am not even sure there are too many pairs of colleges that are as close as those two (I’d say the distance from the north end of the Hopkins campus to the south end of the Loyola campus is between 1/4 and 1/2 mile)
funluvn
College Baseball.
USC, Cal State Fullerton, Pepperdine
SFAW
“Baltimore” Lax:
You forgot
Poland!Towson State.Cue the pedants to remind me that it’s neither in Balto nor “State” (any more).
Dollared
Check volleyball and water polo for LA and the Bay Area.