From Breitfail:
In recent years, Democrats have argued that requiring voters to show photo IDs prior to voting is an egregious act of voter suppression. Ben Jealous, of the NAACP, has gone so far as to argue that such requirements are tantamount to modern-day Jim Crow laws. In the world they inhabit, lots of voters don’t have access to photo IDs, so requiring voters to provide this will “disenfranchise” them and leave them out of the democratic process. Funny they don’t feel that way for their own party conventions.
On Saturday, Massachusetts delegates will meet in their state’s Democrat party convention. The votes of these delegates will determine whether there are primary elections for their party nominations. With so much at state, Democrats have decided to implement Voter ID requirements:
A PHOTO ID WILL BE REQUIRED TO ENTER THE MASSMUTUAL CENTER
Wait, what? Democrats tell us that photo ID requirements disenfranchise minority voters, who, inexplicably, have limited access to photo IDs. Yet, at their own convention, they insist that all delegates provide a photo ID to even have access to the convention floor.
I guess they don’t understand the concept of the basic right to vote and how that differs from being one of a very few delegates to a party convention. I’m also guessing that also don’t realize that politically active delegates are likely to have no problem producing an ID, because they are most likely not poor and elderly or living in the middle of nowhere. I’m guessing that…
To hell with it. How must it be to walk around all day being this criminally stupid? How do they do it? What do they think about when they are standing in line? What goes through their minds?
UP NEXT ON BREITBART: MASS. DEMS THINK ALL DRIVER’S MUST HAVE PHOTO ID DRIVER’S LICENSE. HYPOCRITES!
Joseph Nobles
Yesterday they were proud of themselves having dug up Elizabeth Warren’s parents’ marriage certificate. Because the ceremony was conducted by a Methodist minister in a town 14 miles away from their hometown, the BB-for-brains concluded it could not have been the storied elopement over objections to Mom’s Native American heritage. Why oh why won’t the MSM cover this?
gbear
They’re just willfully shit-stirring dicks.
Maude
I imagine that their minds are like a wind tunnel. Keeps them cool in the summer.
Hal
Blowbart’s spellchecker must have the weekend off.
And again I’m forced to ask, do these guys ever focus on any white folks? Their targets are all minorities it seems. No scandalous white dudes out there to cover?
MattF
I suppose their view is that if Drudge picks it up, it’s a win. I wouldn’t know, being as how I don’t do Drudge.
Corner Stone
Some mitigate it by being a misanthropic pet loving Stillers fan.
Or so the scuttlebutt says.
David Koch
I told the President not to kill Breitbart because it would create a backlash, but he just wouldn’t listen to me.
John Cole
@Corner Stone: I see what you did there.
Hill Dweller
OT sanity break: K-Thug ridiculing ABC’s This Week before tomorrow’s appearance made my day.
Ash Can
And in related news, all 67 election supervisors in Florida have told Rick Scott to blow his voter purge program out his ass. Apologies if this has already been covered here, but this strikes me as really, really good news.
Baud
@Ash Can: Nice. We need some good news. Thanks.
dr. bloor
A better question is, where’s the money coming from to keep Big Rigor on the air, and what do they think they’re getting for their money?
arguingwithsignposts
Not to mention the difference between voting and “security” for a high-profile party event.
MattF
OT, but astonishing:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/02/opinion/nocera-the-mortgage-fraud-fraud.html?ref=opinion
Briefly, the Justice Department (yes, that Justice Department) has been prosecuting the victims of mortgage fraud, rather than the, y’know, perpetrators. Amazing.
Baud
I have to go through security to get on a plane. Therefore, I’m a hypocrite because I don’t want to go through security whenever I leave my house.
Jeff Spender
@Ash Can:
This IS really good news.
As for Breitfail, I can’t think of anything to say except that they’re either all a bunch of morons or they know their readers are all a bunch of morons.
I’m inclined to believe it’s actually both.
Villago Delenda Est
@Hal:
White dudes don’t get into scandals. Unless they’re “virtual” non-white dudes, like Bill Clinton or John Edwards.
Jeff Spender
@MattF:
Well, when you do business with criminal enterprises…
Villago Delenda Est
OK, now the Obama folks are pitching win a night in New York with the Prez, Michelle, and Sarah Jessica Parker.
Guys, do me a favor. Tell the Prez to stay home and babysit, and I’ll just have a great evening with two very lovely ladies.
Corner Stone
@MattF:
I wonder what direction Charlie Engel was looking?
gogol's wife
I need someone to cheer me up after reading the NYTimes with all the Republicans gloating over the bad economic news. This country is really stupid enough to elect Romney because Obama hasn’t singlehandedly fixed the economy, isn’t it? This is even more depressing than W, because I never for a moment thought W was going to become president. But I spend half my day gloomily imagining what a Romney presidency will be like.
Corner Stone
@Villago Delenda Est: If you could have a cup of coffee and a conversation with Michelle, what would you talk about?
Ash Can
Wait till the Breitbarters find out that there are businesses run by Dem contributors that require their employees to have photo IDs. And East-Coast liberal colleges and universities that require their students to have photo IDs! OMG!! SCANDALS EVERYWHERE!!
Stuck in the Funhouse
OT
BREAKING NEWS!! fire update from NM
Okay, I spoke too soon, no later than some of smoke cleared from the huge fire 40 miles to the north, I stepped outside for Charlies walk, with this to greet me.
That is Gomez Peak and two maybe three miles away, and this is a brand new fire in my backyard, to the north with light winds, for now, coming from that direction. Never happened before, and this close to people, I am certain, and hope that they put that puppy out, before it gets out of control. I guess I should panic, and get out the garden hose, or something.
No panic from Charlie, though.
back to the normally scheduled sillyness.
Jeff Spender
@gogol’s wife:
I tune it out and try to enjoy life. There isn’t much you can do about any of this nonsense, so my philosophy is why worry about it?
Get a book and a tall glass of lemonade and enjoy things while you can, you know?
David Koch
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Looks like illegal mexican immigrants, working in concert with Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, and ACORN have set fire to Gomez Peak.
different-church-lady
@Corner Stone: A low blow, artfully delivered. Corner Stone on points.
Corner Stone
I see the twitjihadists have decided Jeremy Scahill is now PNG. Maybe he knows more about this topic than you do, seeing as he’s covered it for a bit?
Nah.
dr. bloor
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
Charlie looks like he’s spotted a big-ass cookout that he hasn’t been invited to.
different-church-lady
@ not really Corner Stone but just a comment on the bit quoted:
I wonder if anyone around the political interwebs is ever going to figure out the very simple-to-comprehend concept that top executives at financial firms don’t personally fucking originate mortgages and therefore it’s very hard to prosecute them on mortgage fraud, or if they’re just gonna keep right on conflating two different things with the belief that nobody else is ever going to figure it out.
cathyx
Why can’t these old people who don’t have an ID just ask their parents for money to pay for the trip to get a an ID?
Valdivia
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
Charlie is a cutie. That is all. :)
Corner Stone
@different-church-lady: The confusion is that the mortgage brokers just waved their wand and these acts happened.
People up the chain are, or should be held, responsible for the things that are engaged in and supported at their companies.
They knew enough to take the damn bonuses. But they forgot the rest?
Someone hired an army of people to robo sign docs every 15 seconds. Someone set up the compensation scheme to incentivize brokers to take these risks. Lots of people got bloody rich off these affirmative decisions.
Cacti
Before today, I never knew about my Constitutional right to be a delegate to the Democratic National Convention.
Polish the Guillotines
What do they think about when they are standing in line? What goes through their minds?
Corner Stone
@cathyx: I’ve been involved in a running battle engagement on a local message board regarding photo ID laws.
The wingnuterati have already worked their way through loop 3 of the same defeated arguments. With escalating anti-immigrant and nationalism biases.
Redshift
@Jeff Spender: My impression is that B. himself knew his readers were a bunch of morons, and ready for fleecing, and the Breitbartlettes are actual morons who saw how it’s done, and are carrying on in cargo-cult fashion to try to keep the grift going.
In other words, they are definitely morons; whether they realize their meal tickets are morons is an open question.
Jeff Spender
@Corner Stone:
This seems about right. I’ve been debating with a few guys who, when faced with data that the obesity epidemic is going to be damaging to the economy and cost hundreds of billions of dollars and put untenable pressure on the healthcare industry and I argue we need to be proactive about stopping this, put their hands on their ears and scream, “LA LA LA LA LA CAN’T HEAR YOU FREEDOM PEOPLE SHOULD GET AS FAT AS THEY WANT BECAUSE FREEDOM AND SHUTUP THAT’S WHY.”
You know you’ve won the argument when the other person says, literally, “I don’t need to respond to your mind-numbing facts to know what the constitution says.”
different-church-lady
@Corner Stone: But the problem wasn’t just the fraud, it was the bundling of crap securities that were only partially crappy because of the fraud. That’s the real reason these guys, in a just world, would be rotting in a dungeon somewhere. But we went and made that kind of crap legal, while the small stuff remained illegal.
different-church-lady
@Jeff Spender: So, you do not renounce the broccoli mandate?
Redshift
I have a friend who used to be capable of reasonable discussion about politics, but seems to have had his brain eaten by Fox. I’m still connected on Facebook because most of what he posts is about his family, which I actually like. But he does post about politics once or twice a month; not enough to make me drop him, but enough to be annoying.
Yesterday’s was a line about Wisconsin, “I hope Walker wins, of course,” with an assertion about how “it doesn’t seem to be about collective bargaining any more, does it?” and a link to… brietbart.com.
Sigh. I really wanted to ask why “of course,” and I’m sure if I suffered through the link, I’d find some idiotic argument that the Democrats aren’t talking about unions or something, but I just don’t have the energy.
Villago Delenda Est
@Corner Stone:
That’s a good question.
I’d like to get her take on the wealth disparities in this country, and how she’s coping with raising two kids in affluence, trying to keep them centered. The way things are right now, both will be offered gigs at the networks, just as Bush and Clinton kids have been.
Jeff Spender
@different-church-lady:
No. No I do not renounce the broccoli mandate. Nor do I think it would be a bad idea to regulate sugar as a toxin, or at least treat it like alcohol. It wouldn’t be a bad idea to overhaul how we handle any kind of sugar, actually.
Yes, yes. I know. FREEDOM AND FASCISM AND BLAH-FUCKING-BLAH.
Dee Loralei
@Villago Delenda Est: I got that email the other day and thought of entering, but it’s the night of my 50th (Yikes) Bday and an Aunt from OK and a cousin from TX are coming to Memphis to celebrate with me, so I figured I couldn’t actually not be here, on the outside chance I might actually win. LOL
cat48
@gogol’s wife:
Just skim the articles or don’t read them. Let’s wait a few weeks before we go into full blown depression mode. I notice that Obama is using wedge issues more this time. Sometimes these folks are one issue voters. I know everyone says they’ll vote on the economy only, but MittFlop has to convince everyone his MORE taxbreaks for the rich & tax raises for the not rich & the Ryan Budget which ends Medicare & severely cuts benes for the poor will make our lives fabulous & the Economy will improve this way. Unlike Hillary, I’m not sure that Mitt is “likeable enough”. heh
Now Mitt’s trying to avoid disclosing the truth about his “plan” but if I know the prez; all will be revealed. I don’t care how “moderate” the press says he is. He simply is not.
different-church-lady
@Jeff Spender: Yeah. Well, best of luck to you with that argument.
David Koch
If the government can force you to present ID to vote then they can force you to present broccoli to vote.
Corner Stone
@Jeff Spender: You can go after sugar all you like.
But you come after salt and you should expect to see a vaguely terroristicly dressed, yet handsome, man creeping behind you in an alley with a scimitar.
Cacti
@Redshift:
Even if one doesn’t care about unions at all, Walker is going to be the subject of an ongoing criminal investigation, win or lose. How effective will he be as the State’s executive if he gets indicted in a month.
Redshift
@Jeff Spender: I am somewhat encouraged there is beginning to be discussion that obesity is a problem with the food industry, rather than an individual character failing that just happened to develop in millions of people simultaneously.
Jeff Spender
@different-church-lady:
Oh, I know it probably won’t happen.
I like to use this to really get people going, though.
“SUGAR FREEDOM RIGHT TO BE FAT EAT ANYTHING I WANT ARGLE BARGLE.”
Corner Stone
@different-church-lady: I think the mortgage fraud settlement (fraud) didn’t exactly help anything.
gogol's wife
@cat48:
thank you. I will try to see things this way. As it is, I only skim these articles, but they still manage to depress me terribly. Partly because the Times takes the point of view of the Republican consultants quoted, but whenever it quotes Axelrod or someone like that, the next paragraph always begins “But . . .”
different-church-lady
@Jeff Spender:
Maybe you need to think about that.
Rafer Janders
@different-church-lady:
Just as Mafia dons and heads of drug cartels don’t personally fucking sell drugs, and therefore it’s very hard to prosecute them for drug dealing, and heads of terrorist organizations don’t personally set bombs or hijack planes, and therefore it’s very hard to prosecute them for terrorism. I mean, it’s not like we have criminal conspiracy or RICO laws or anything.
different-church-lady
@Rafer Janders: If buying the parts for bombs was illegal, but knocking over tall buildings with bombs was legal, then you might have an analogy there.
Redshift
@cat48: That’s the thing. In an election against an incumbent, the first task is to convince voters that the incumbent shouldn’t be re-elected. The second is to convince them that your candidate should be.
We get a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth over news that’s about the first part. And sure, it would be much better if Romney never overcomes that first hurdle at all (which may still happen.) But even if he does, his chances at the second task look terrible. The more people see of him, the less they like him. He openly admits that he doesn’t want to tell people what he’d do if elected because then they might not vote for him. And SuperPAC attack ads only help with the first task, not the second.
It’s not completely impossible to win just by turning off voters about the other guy. But only if you’re really really lucky.
hitchhiker
Bless me, BJ, for I have sinned.
It’s been 45 years since my last confession.
Yesterday 2 women in tea party regalia appeared on my front steps trying to get me to sign a petition to put an initiative on the WA ballot that would prevent our legislature from raising taxes without a 2/3 majority.
I failed. I gently told them I thought that was a terrible idea and let them leave. Why did I not laugh hysterically? Insult them? Try to reason with them? Why did I miss a chance to lower their level of confidence and shame them? Why did I act like I don’t think they’re batshit insane and a menace?
I’m a coward. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximus culpa.
Stuck in the Funhouse
Latest report
They are hitting this fire with everything they have looks like, one chopper and water bucket after the next. Everyone is out in the yard, rooting them on. This is very very dangerous, due to the most ideal fire weather possible. Hot, dry, windy. In a relatively high populated area.
Don’t want to interrupt further, as Corner Stone seems to have said something witty, and I don’t want to be the thwarter of his day in the clown cannon. Will post update pics on my flicker page, at least until its time to haul ass out of here. Latest pic
Jeff Spender
@different-church-lady:
Perhaps some background info. These aren’t people who are receptive to any arguments about going after the food industry or looking at sugar as an ingredient. They’ve got their heads so far up their asses about some abstract concept of freedom that they’d eat themselves into kidney failure and diabetic shock just to make a point.
But when I can I try to approach this subject with more tact when I suspect I can convince someone.
different-church-lady
@Jeff Spender: If the person you’re trying to convince is thin, yet consumes sugar, which tactics do you use?
cat48
@gogol’s wife:
That’s all too true. Dems are always questioned on their logic. It’s gotten worse since O was elected. Jeff Zeleney started covering Obama when he was running for Senate for the Chicago Tribune and all throughout the campaign for the NYT. They gave him another assignment a few months after the election & assigned idiot Peter Baker who used to work for WashPo. I’ve never adjusted to the change. Baker is just more wingnutty than Zeleney is. Also2, Michael Shear from WP. They always go McCain the Neocon for foreign policy criticism. Joe Manchin for Dem perspective, etc. You know, people who hate the prez.
Zeleney was not noncritical, but I never felt like he was just trying to piss me off like I do with Baker & Shear.
muddy
@Corner Stone: I read an article about salt recently, which said that even if you get sea salt, if it does not say, “unprocessed”, then it is very much processed. They strip the minerals out of it chemically, to sell them separately, and then the salt is an ugly puce color after that, so then they bleach it, and then put iodine, in. It’s not as disgusting as pink slime, but still pretty weird.
I got some that said “unprocessed”, it has a lot of colors in it and tastes quite different than the standard stuff. It does come from Utah, but since the salt was laid down pre-Mormon, I guess it’s okay.
Jeff Spender
@different-church-lady:
I hope that they respond to arguments based on empirical data, and hope that they understand that the obesity epidemic will, eventually, adversely effect them.
MattF
@gogol’s wife: Contrarian view on jobs reports:
http://www.thereformedbroker.com/2012/05/31/the-least-important-jobs-report-of-all-time/
Also, as a bonus, the Pew report on poll response rates;
http://www.people-press.org/2012/05/15/assessing-the-representativeness-of-public-opinion-surveys/
Note that the response rate in 2012 is 9%. NIne percent! Now if you were a pollster and paying your mortgage depended on polls being relevant, you wouldn’t say much about this. But in real life, the polls don’t mean shit. IMO.
Jennifer
I can’t believe no one else spotted the Breitbrats’ attempt to deflect attention from the real reason that requiring photo IDs to get into the MA Dem convention upsets them so:
It’s because O’Queef and his merry band of morons won’t be able to get in now and pull any stupid tricks to try to screw up the convention.
Mino
@MattF: I wonder just how many US Attorneys and their staff are still hold-overs from Bush? What possesssed Obama to allow this to happen?
In 2009, one-third!! And some of the most notorious. How many still serve? I don’t know if this involved one of the Regenery crowd, but I wouldn’t be surprised.
cat48
@Redshift:
I agree with you. Romney thinks the bad economy will automatically win people over for him. His aides are quoted in articles saying that all the time. They say Hispanics will come to him without any special attention, etc. Just the economy will do it. Also, that’s why he’s hanging with Trump to please Rush & the bloggers instead of courting Swing Voters. No special effort needed.
Hubris Alert!
different-church-lady
@Jeff Spender:
Only if we continue to advocate a system where society is supposed to pay for individual’s bad decisions. Which, in the absence of further details seems to be within the heart of your point of view.
I’d like to continue this discussion, but I’m off to the gym. It’s how I deal with the sugar I put in my coffee this morning, yet keep a BMI within a healthy range.
Mino
@Ash Can: Does that mean the ones already purged are automatically restored? Cause they already dumped a bunch in the Dem districts of South Florida.
Cacti
@hitchhiker:
Nah.
What would you have accomplished by going out of your way to be unpleasant? You’re not going to convert the true believers to a new religion. You succinctly told them what you thought and everyone went on with their day.
Jeff Spender
@different-church-lady:
I don’t see any other way to deal with it. I mean, we could just let alcoholics go out and drink themselves into liver failure and allow them to suffer, but the compassionate part of me recoils at this idea.
If you want to have access to something like alcohol, or sugar, you have to deal with the unpleasant aspects as well.
But sugar is more of a food industry issue. Have you seen those commercials trying to claim that there isn’t any difference between sucrose and high-fructose corn syrup?
chopper
wait, i don’t have a constitutional right to vote at my state’s democratic convention? when did this happen?
Hill Dweller
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Is that a government helicopter dropping socialism juice on the fire?
Cacti
@cat48:
Among Willard’s many problems is the fact that all of his ideas are a redux of every GOP candidate for the past 30 years. We already got to see the cut taxes at the top/roll back regulations strategy for economic growth. It ended with a stock market crash and the economy hemorrhaging 700,000 jobs a month.
For Romney to win, a voting majority has to pretend that 2000-2008 never happened.
JPL
@Stuck in the Funhouse: Are you packed and ready to go?
Ruckus
@gogol’s wife:
I occasionally think that if mittens get hisself
anointedno,appointedno that’s not it, ahh here we go, elected, I may have to dig out my grandfathers straight razors and take them for a spin.Mino
@Redshift: And is exportable to countries that begin to indulge in our Western diet. That ought to be a clue.
gnomedad
It’s not stupidity. It’s Goodthink.
muddy
@Cacti: Plus it would have given them a story to tell about dreadful libs, and how they can’t even be civil to sweet little ladies. “You brute!”
beltane
Someone is issuing a challenge to fight Jonah Goldberghttp://wonkette.com/474213/why-i-am-challenging-jonah-goldberg-to-a-fight-for-charity-by-jamie-kilstein
I wonder if Goldberg accepts.
cathyx
The problem isn’t sugar per se. At least not sugar cane. It’s corn sugar and corn syrup. If you look at the ingredients of anything processed, it contains some sort of corn product.
Linda Featheringill
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
No, no, Stuck. Keep us updated.
And keep your eyes open.
Jeff Spender
@cathyx:
No, it’s pretty much any kind of sugar. Sucrose, fructose, HFCS…
JPL
@Ruckus: When Kerry ran against Bush, I donated the max allowable at the time because I was afraid of what Bush could do to the economy. I was right.
A Romney when would add ten trillion to the deficit and anoint two Roberts’ clones to the court. We should all be terrified.
My son did mention that Romney might pick Sarah again for VP because he’s fixated on Russia. Who better to choose but someone who can see Russia from her house.
Stuck in the Funhouse
@JPL:
Was starting too, but went back outside, and those fire guys in the choppers, and no doubt on the ground, have got that sucker somewhat under control for now, but fires often die down in the late evening. But they went all fucking out on this one. As this little valley is chocked full of peeps. And at the foot of that mountain, is where private land begins, and there are some high dollar homes. The FF’s are just doing their jobs, but tonight they are my heroes. We’ll see what tomorrow brings.
beltane
@JPL: I wonder if Romney is so fixated on Russia because of its government’s hostility towards Mormon missionaries? It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
Jeff Spender
@Jeff Spender:
The body processes fructose in the liver, which is why large amounts of fructose can be bad for the liver.
But the body all converts it into glucose so it can be processed in the cell’s mitochondria to make pyruvic acid, and eventually used to make ATP to fuel the cell’s functions.
Ruckus
@JPL:
OK I see what you did there. You are trying to make me go looking for those razors right now.
Facilitator.
Redshift
@Jeff Spender: We have created the technology to produce cheap food that contain plenty of what our bodies are evolved to crave (sugar and fat) and little of the other stuff we need, plus companies all along the chain that profit more the more they can get their customers to buy.
Funny how that environment happens to produce a lot of “individual’s bad decisions.”
Jeff Spender
@Redshift:
I agree completely. We crave all of these things and they are readily available. It’s instinctual, because our body needs them.
I know I find myself eating processed foods something without even thinking why, knowing how unhealthy they are.
It gets depressing when people put all them blame on people without realizing how this industry actually functions, and how they take advantage of human biology (the cravings for fat and glucose).
Redshift
@Cacti:
You would think that would be the case, but it seems to run up against the Adlai Stevenson problem. (“Sir, we have the votes of all thinking people!” “That’s great, but we need a majority.”)
I would be happier if that were a big problem for him, but as things are, I’m more comforted by the fact that Romney doesn’t seem to know how to behave around normal people, he’s thin-skinned with anyone but complete yes-men, and when he speaks or writes at length, he frequently says things that even the unengaged can recognize as stupid.
catclub
@hitchhiker: How about tell them they are not radical enough, you will only sign a petition that demands a 100% plebiscite for any tax increase.
Anything less is undemocratic.
Steeplejack
@beltane:
Linky no work. Fix’d.
SiubhanDuinne
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
Wow, General, that’s scarily close! Glad you recharged/replaced camera betteries, even gladder you posted a picture of Charlie. He is just the nonchalant one, isn’t he? I’ve said before, I’m not all that much of a dog person (no offense to dogs or dog-lovers, I merely prefer cats) but I would make an exception for Charlie every time. He stole my heart a long time ago.
You both stay safe, hear?
FlipYrWhig
Apropos of the subject of the thread, and I ask because I truly don’t know, how much ID do you have to provide to buy a gun at a gun show?
SiubhanDuinne
@Stuck in the Funhouse: PLEASE BE SAFE
quannlace
Ain’t it amazing. The same people who will shriek about the sacredness of the Constitution, claiming that Obama daily puts it through his office shredder-will blithely discount this most fundamental right of every citizen. The right to vote. And not have to jump through arbritary hoops to do so.
muddy
@cathyx: The molecules are a different shape even when the idea that HFCS is just fructose and glucose.
Also the corn is Frankengrained, as are wheat, soy (which is processed with hexane), etc. I eat organic short grain brown rice as I think this is a small enough niche not to be frankengrained. I make my dog’s food with that as well. I also use a small amount or organic whole wheat flour (King Arthur’s has a good selection online).
I was just in the hospital, when I had been in the ER about 9 hours I asked for something to eat as it had been 6 hours before I got there that I had eaten. They gave me some peanut butter crackers, and I got a horrible belly ache and it swelled up painfully from that. It was really remarkable how fast and how severe it was, being that I was unused to processed food. I don’t have a gluten allergy or anything.
muddy
@FlipYrWhig: Depends on the state, but in many places nothing is required.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPgr_tw79Q
Hey, that’s our constitutional right, don’t tread on us! ID is for silly things such as voting and buying cigarettes.
eyelessgame
@FlipYrWhig: One thing to consider – without going into the relative merits of the two constitutional rights – is that if, due to lack of ID, you are denied a gun today, you can still go acquire an ID and buy a gun tomorrow.
If one could only purchase a firearm one day every four years, you might have a bit better analogy.
EIGRP
@David Koch: “I hate broccoli, and yet, in a certain sense, I am broccoli.” – The Tick
Words to live by.
Eric
FlipYrWhig
@eyelessgame: @muddy: Thx. I only brought it up because if Republicans want to play the “lolz IDs for errythang” game, their position on guns becomes at least as inconsistent as Democrats wanting ID to enter a convention center.
muddy
@FlipYrWhig: As though inconsistency is ever a problem for them!
Stuck in the Funhouse
@SiubhanDuinne:
Thanks. Charlie melts my heart every single day.
The Ancient Randonneur
Photo ID to vote: Yes! Photo ID to purchase firearm: Waaaaaahhhh! My 2nd Amendment rights are being trampled upon! I’m waiting for them to cover THAT travesty.
Hunter
“What goes through their minds?”
False assumption — that there is actually some sort of activity in their brains.
mark f
I was there as a delegate. Credentials were mailed in advance and those were all you needed to get in the door. No one asked me for my ID. Furthermore, the voting floor and vote-gathering were arranged by state senate district, which is to say that the people taking both the roll call and the (unsecret ballot!) vote tallies were those who elected and were elected alongside you.
Haydnseek
The stupid doesn’t just burn, but is cynically propagated by assholes who truly enjoy manipulating the morons.