“Now if I recall you don’t think the US should be run somewhat like a business with some exceptions. If that is the case then you need to live in Greece or Spanish which are very typically socialist countries(see what they are going through) socialism in most forms is not sustainable economically. I think you are smart enough to under stand why.”
I wish some people would lose my e-mail address.
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The Red Pen
Can I just say that this is the second time I’ve been on television?
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amk
There is a freshly created vacancy for aq no. 2 post. Any takers ?
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jibeaux
Living in Spanish can be fun, but I don’t think it will help you “under stand” socialism. It might improve your sangria game, of course.
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Shinobi: Tell him you were to busy to read his email because you reading about the collapse of Goldman-Sasch and what was this about unsustainable economic models?
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thruppence
With California’s new open primary system, we may end up with someone to challenge our Corporate Democrat Senator Feinstein from the Left. David Levitt, perhaps. He would have a hard time winning, but he certainly would change the debate.
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
Also, I would like a thread discussing is there really such a country as “Canada” like MSM claims. It seems to me such an utterly socialist, mulit-cultural country like that would instantly explode and leave only a smoking crater.
@Valdivia: I don’t want to rule the world. Madagascar is enough.
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Shinobi
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Predicted response: “BUT THE PRESIDENT IS BLACK DON”T YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ECONOMICS?”
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Yutsano
I have two border collies on my bed and helped a friend with a legal issue today. I think my karma is pretty much set.
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Brachiator
As burnsp alerted folks to earlier, from the 9th Circuit
(06-05) 10:35 PDT SAN FRANCISCO — The issue of same-sex marriage moved a step closer to the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday when a federal appeals court, over vehement dissents by conservative judges, reaffirmed its ruling that struck down California’s Proposition 8.
Sponsors of the November 2008 ballot measure, which defined marriage as the union of a man and a woman, had asked the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco to set aside a panel’s 2-1 ruling in February invalidating the measure and order a new hearing before a larger panel.
The court said Tuesday the request had failed to gain a majority vote among its 27 active judges.
The only remaining avenue of appeal is to the U.S. Supreme Court. The case could reach the high court’s docket for the 2012-13 term, along with an appeal of last week’s ruling by another federal appeals court that declared unconstitutional the denial of federal benefits to married same-sex couples.
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dj spellchecka
i prefer “the hurting” to “songs from the big chair”
@Shinobi: Ask him which particular business we should be run like. The bailed-out A.I.G.? How about the bailed-out TBTF banks? Enron? Should be we run like Wal-Mart and become a subsidiary of the Chinese Comm-u-nist party? Are there any “successful” American businesses that aren’t largely propped up by state subsidies these days?
The average Republican voter is such a servile, grovelling nitwit that it’s getting increasingly hard to respect their humanity in any way.
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Yutsano
@Valdivia: And of course they’re both passed out. As soon as Mom gets home they’ll be bundles of energy again. Ahh conservation. :)
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Shinobi
@rlrr: Are Greece and Spain even that socialist? I feel like he picked out the countries doing the worst and declared them socialist.
Tell him that he lives in America, and he can either speak proper English or get the fuck out.
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Shinobi: Counter Response “While I agree we shouldn’t let the country be run by secretive cultists, I am sorry, I was to busy using my Romneycare to recover from the cut I sustained during a Temple ceremony.”
the cats here are the same. They take over the whole bed leaving little room for the 6 feet of me. Then they ignore me as soon as my mom gets home.
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beltane
@Mark S.: This is America where FREEDOM requires that Honda Civic drivers subsidize fat teabaggers and their Hummers. Disgusting behavior must be rewarded at all costs.
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The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
I continue to find myself gobsmacked anytime unions come up, considering the way people talk about them. At the time of their least powerful and least numerous, people act like they’re the most powerful fucking cabal in the history of ever. And apparently, the idea that private workers got fucked over by having benefits stripped from them is less grounds for working to have those benefits reinstated, but to demand that public workers suffer with everyone else, because FUCK IT, THAT’S THE AMERICAN WAY AND UNIONS ARE ENTIRELY FUCKING COMMIE!!
@amk: I’m having trouble deciding if I want an international adventure as the Al Queda Number 2 or if I want an exciting career as a drummer for Spinal Tap. Please advise.
He would have a hard time winning, but he certainly would change the debate.
So would Orly Taitz, so it just goes to show you how retarded the idea is.
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Amir Khalid
@Gin & Tonic:
Depends. What else do you use your mustache for?
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gbear
Pout, pout, stick your lip out.
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
@beltane:speaking about good gas mileage = tool of the devil one of my wingnut friends just lost it, when into a complete frothing rage because I bought a Ford Focus. Nothing says commie like 40 MPG on the highway. Here I was thinking cars were safe conversation topics.
It’s a good example of how nuts and emotion driven the Right has become. That’s why I don’t buy they will calm down with a President Mittens.
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Suffern ACE
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: You should have told him that you only bought it because Ford didn’t take a bail out.
True Fact of the Day: Mantises chew on their antennae when nervous.
Maybe that’s just how they masturbate.
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Suffern ACE: It wouldn’t have matter. He bought some SUV and then moved to the extraburbs and when from a 5 mile commute one way to a 50 mile all because he couldn’t stand the moonbat liberals SF Bay Area. Basically it was tearful butt hurt because his behind was bleeding from the reaming he gave himself.
@Shinobi: Obviously the appropriate response is something with a little more emotional kick behind it. He’s basically calling you un-American, and I wouldn’t stand for it. I’d suggest something like this:
“I really wish you would not impunge my national feelings in this way. You and I both live in American. And while we may have different perceptitudes as to the proper roll of government in Americanish life, we can at least agree that we both want what is best for American and the Americanish people. It may perhaps not have completely escaped your awareness as to the serious economic circumstances which have been in prevalence in several nations of the world, like such as Great Britain, whereunto the economy is contracting as a result of decisions to run a country like a business, when one is nothing like the other. But it would not be an occurrence upon my self to tell you that you should leave American and join your self to the Britishese such as your personal philosophy might presume. We have no necessity for ad ham attacking in our communications. May be if we can debate these issues in a civilization manner, it will boat well for the great nation of American also too.”
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thruppence
@Todd: I voted against the open primary law here, but it won. There will be two voices in the Senate race. One will be Dianne Feinstein. The other candidate will be chosen in this primary. If all Democrats vote for Feinstein, her opponent may well be Orly Taitz. I’d rather have a better candidate in the race. Do you think that’s a bad idea?
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Suffern ACE
Oh, now I am in the penalty box. Don’t know what bad word I used this time.
Anyway, @Mark S.: You could charge all the potential costs of car ownership up front. Well, you could, if your country was just one major metropolitan area.
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Schlemizel
@Shinobi:
come on! Thats what socialism means to todays modern, hep conservative.
one of my wingnut friends just lost it, when into a complete frothing rage because I bought a Ford Focus. Nothing says commie like 40 MPG on the highway. Here I was thinking cars were safe conversation topics.
Nope. Found this out when I bought a Prius. Amazing the number of people (both friends and complete strangers) who think it gives them license to say some really rude stuff to me. It would bother me, except I’m too busy driving PAST the gas stations…
Speaking of the wingnut descent into utter irrationality, I read an article on Reuters about drug shortages and I thought it was pretty clear that said shortages were caused by manufacturers no longer making certain drugs because the profit margin was too low. Seemed to me that makes a pretty good case for why a for-profit healthcare system is immoral and inefficient. But then I made the mistake of reading the Comments section. Turns out it’s either the result of something Hillary did in the 90’s or Obamacare screwing us right now.
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Suffern ACE
@Schlemizel: Yep. It’s pretty much any country where people can retire before 80 or have a minimum wage law.
I’m having trouble deciding if I want an international adventure as the Al Queda Number 2 or if I want an exciting career as a drummer for Spinal Tap. Please advise.
Might I suggest an exciting career in Federation Starship security? Those red shirts are very fetching.
@pragmatism: Delightful, but her name is still listed on my official sample ballot. It will be interesting to see how many votes she gets and from where.
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Schlemizel
@Suffern ACE:
Well thats specifically right in this case but more generally ANYTHING I don’t like is socialism.
“They put new bulbs in the street lights & now my bedroom is brighter than it was – DAMN SOCIALISTS!”
Anything that does not work, no matter who thought of it, who implemented it or why it failed is socialism.
“My soup was too salty – DAMN SOCIALISTS!”
Jesus, there are 27 active judges on the 9th Circuit? It might be a good idea to split that up.
There are problems with that idea. Basically, the problem is that California is huge. If you leave all of California in the same Circuit, you still wind up with an unwieldy Circuit court. If you divide California between different Circuits, you have the very odd situation of State laws being applied inconsistently whenever the two Circuits disagree on something, meaning lots more appeals to the Supreme Court over matters raised in California.
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SatanicPanic
@thruppence: I’ve seeing Orly Taitz signs along the street. I never thought it would come to this.
Anyway, @Mark S.: You could charge all the potential costs of car ownership up front. Well, you could, if your country was just one major metropolitan area.
ITYM “just one giant Socialist Paradise with functioning mass transit, so cars can rightly be treated as luxury items”.
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Gin & Tonic
@Amir Khalid: That’s a very personal question, don’t you think?
I did not realize that Orly Taitz was one of the Republican candidates running for US Senate for California.
I just had an image of Orly Taitz sitting in her bathrobe eating a Pop-Tart and asking no one in particular, “Am I in the Senate yet?”
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JPL
After Kerry’s loss to Bush in 2004, I believe it was Crooks and Liars who posted a 5 stages of grief but I can’t find it.
Does anyone remember it?
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EriktheRed
Hey folks, I’ve been looking for this video I saw once (it may have even been posted on here) with a pretty dark-haired woman playing guitar onstage with 2 other women and they were singing a song about how homophobes might really be gay.
Anyone know what I’m talking about?
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Jay in Oregon
@Mark S.:
To paraphrase Atrios (I know he is the first link that you pointed to), Very Serious People oppose raising the gas tax because they see it as politically unworkable. But suggesting that installing GPS trackers on everyone’s car to monitor their driving habits will go over just dandy!
Why the fuck do we listen to these people again??
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Forum Transmitted Disease
@thruppence: California’s new “open primary” is a fucking joke, as any party can, by fiat, decide they don’t want to participate.
Guess who’s not participating this election?
Guess who was stupid enough to open theirs?
I can’t believe that law got passed with a built-in opt-out. Dems are letting Republicans vote in the Dem primary. Republicans are banning both Dems and Independents from theirs.
Fucking total shitshow fail parade.
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gardenia breath
All eyes on WI – Let Democracy Prevail!
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
@merrinc: It really is dumfounding how the Right refuses to see how the Freemarket works. In your example that’s how a private company supposed to work, it’s just not in the public interest in that case. They have the minds of twelve year olds were everything is black and white.
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Indylib
Just voted in the Wisconsin recall. My polling place was pretty busy, no lines, but a constant stream of people voting. Certainly busier than the same time of day at the mid-terms.
Speaking of Canada, robocalls in the Wisconsin primary, god dammit! Do we need to ban robocalls entirely during election seasons, now?
YES. They’re exempted from laws restricting private entities from doing the same thing. Ban ALL robocalls. Just because it’s an election doesn’t mean they should be able to abuse us like that.
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Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Forum Transmitted Disease: Speaking of GPS tracking for gas milage, speaking as someone who worked from Trimble Navigation, when in the heck did they get the lobby clout to pull a scam like this?
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: They run around and show powerpoints to key officials and feed them lunch, which seems like a very weak bribe but thanks to our evolutionary past actually influences people much, much more than you’d think. (That’s why pharma reps used to feed, feed, feed medical personnel.)
@Forum Transmitted Disease:
You’re way behind the times. The open primary has already been replaced (for everything except the Presidential primary) with a jungle primary. Everyone goes on the same ballot in the primary, and the top two duke it out in the general election, regardless of party. Nobody can opt out. My ballot this morning had Feinstein and the 23 (count-em!) dwarves for Senate.
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Mino
@thruppence: Jennifer Granholm is out there now, too.
Wow, this post got the infamous Moore Award at you know who’s place. I didn’t think it worthy, but I guess it’s a slow day or teabag atrocities must be balanced by something very mean and not serious said by a lefty.
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danimal
@thruppence: I did it. I confess. DiFi didn’t need my vote, and her blue doggy ways bug the crap out of me anyway. So I did the unthinkable: I voted for Orly Taitz.
The thought of having dear Orly representing the GOP for the next six months is beyond entertaining. It would be an order of magnitude crazier than Sharron Angle or Christine O’Donnell.
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Shinobi
WTFery from a republican of the day:
“Now if I recall you don’t think the US should be run somewhat like a business with some exceptions. If that is the case then you need to live in Greece or Spanish which are very typically socialist countries(see what they are going through) socialism in most forms is not sustainable economically. I think you are smart enough to under stand why.”
I wish some people would lose my e-mail address.
The Red Pen
Can I just say that this is the second time I’ve been on television?
amk
There is a freshly created vacancy for aq no. 2 post. Any takers ?
jibeaux
Living in Spanish can be fun, but I don’t think it will help you “under stand” socialism. It might improve your sangria game, of course.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Shinobi: Tell him you were to busy to read his email because you reading about the collapse of Goldman-Sasch and what was this about unsustainable economic models?
thruppence
With California’s new open primary system, we may end up with someone to challenge our Corporate Democrat Senator Feinstein from the Left. David Levitt, perhaps. He would have a hard time winning, but he certainly would change the debate.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Also, I would like a thread discussing is there really such a country as “Canada” like MSM claims. It seems to me such an utterly socialist, mulit-cultural country like that would instantly explode and leave only a smoking crater.
Rosalita
…these are things we can do without, come on…
jeffreyw
Just like Peter Piper. Except for the “peck” part. And the Peter Piper part.
Shinobi
@jibeaux: I kindof hope it is like living in “In the Heights” complete with musical numbers. I’m totally moving to Spanish.
Mark S.
Are taxes on gasoline really “viewed as all but obsolete“? The USA Today says so. If you accept that, then the next logical step is to make everyone install GPS tracking boxes in their cars and tax them on the miles they drive. Because rewarding people for driving more fuel-efficient cars is what communists do.
TooManyJens
@The Red Pen: That sounds like the start of a fine short story.
Valdivia
These are the things I can do without…
:)
I think these days is more like Everybody Wants to Rule the world
ETA @Rosalita: you beat me!
redshirt
@Valdivia: I don’t want to rule the world. Madagascar is enough.
Shinobi
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Predicted response: “BUT THE PRESIDENT IS BLACK DON”T YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ECONOMICS?”
Yutsano
I have two border collies on my bed and helped a friend with a legal issue today. I think my karma is pretty much set.
Brachiator
As burnsp alerted folks to earlier, from the 9th Circuit
(06-05) 10:35 PDT SAN FRANCISCO — The issue of same-sex marriage moved a step closer to the U.S. Supreme Court on Tuesday when a federal appeals court, over vehement dissents by conservative judges, reaffirmed its ruling that struck down California’s Proposition 8.
Sponsors of the November 2008 ballot measure, which defined marriage as the union of a man and a woman, had asked the Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco to set aside a panel’s 2-1 ruling in February invalidating the measure and order a new hearing before a larger panel.
The court said Tuesday the request had failed to gain a majority vote among its 27 active judges.
The only remaining avenue of appeal is to the U.S. Supreme Court. The case could reach the high court’s docket for the 2012-13 term, along with an appeal of last week’s ruling by another federal appeals court that declared unconstitutional the denial of federal benefits to married same-sex couples.
dj spellchecka
i prefer “the hurting” to “songs from the big chair”
rlrr
@Shinobi:
Scandinavia seems to be doing OK…
Valdivia
@Yutsano:
you sound all set :)
@redshirt:
Madagascar sounds like a good place to set your cap on.
rlrr
@Mark S.:
They just want to punish liberals who drive fuel efficient cars.
jeffreyw
True Fact of the Day: Mantises chew on their antennae when nervous.
rlrr
@jeffreyw:
Male mantises have a lot to be nervous about…
beltane
@Shinobi: Ask him which particular business we should be run like. The bailed-out A.I.G.? How about the bailed-out TBTF banks? Enron? Should be we run like Wal-Mart and become a subsidiary of the Chinese Comm-u-nist party? Are there any “successful” American businesses that aren’t largely propped up by state subsidies these days?
The average Republican voter is such a servile, grovelling nitwit that it’s getting increasingly hard to respect their humanity in any way.
Yutsano
@Valdivia: And of course they’re both passed out. As soon as Mom gets home they’ll be bundles of energy again. Ahh conservation. :)
Shinobi
@rlrr: Are Greece and Spain even that socialist? I feel like he picked out the countries doing the worst and declared them socialist.
Chyron HR
@Shinobi:
Tell him that he lives in America, and he can either speak proper English or get the fuck out.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Shinobi: Counter Response “While I agree we shouldn’t let the country be run by secretive cultists, I am sorry, I was to busy using my Romneycare to recover from the cut I sustained during a Temple ceremony.”
rlrr
@Shinobi:
“Every country that is not the USA is socialist.”
— wingnut
BGinCHI
Today’s xkcd is Cole getting home late at night, graphed.
Valdivia
@Yutsano:
the cats here are the same. They take over the whole bed leaving little room for the 6 feet of me. Then they ignore me as soon as my mom gets home.
beltane
@Mark S.: This is America where FREEDOM requires that Honda Civic drivers subsidize fat teabaggers and their Hummers. Disgusting behavior must be rewarded at all costs.
The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik
I continue to find myself gobsmacked anytime unions come up, considering the way people talk about them. At the time of their least powerful and least numerous, people act like they’re the most powerful fucking cabal in the history of ever. And apparently, the idea that private workers got fucked over by having benefits stripped from them is less grounds for working to have those benefits reinstated, but to demand that public workers suffer with everyone else, because FUCK IT, THAT’S THE AMERICAN WAY AND UNIONS ARE ENTIRELY FUCKING COMMIE!!
Spaghetti Lee
@Mark S.:
What a stupid idea.
danimal
@amk: I’m having trouble deciding if I want an international adventure as the Al Queda Number 2 or if I want an exciting career as a drummer for Spinal Tap. Please advise.
rlrr
@Chyron HR:
Or tell him he lives in American.
Tractarian
McMegan and Sully, reunited at last.
Top comment:
jl
@Shinobi:
The GOPper said the US should be run ‘somewhat like a business’ ?
What is with the ‘somewhat’? This guy is confused, and may have hidden communist sympathies. Should be kicked out of the GOP.
amk
@Shinobi: wingnut english is a class by itself.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@rlrr:
It thought they lived in Amercia now.
Gin & Tonic
@jeffreyw: I do that with the corners of my mustache. Am I a mantis?
Mark S.
@Brachiator:
Jesus, there are 27 active judges on the 9th Circuit? It might be a good idea to split that up.
amk
@Tractarian: Ouch.
rlrr
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Touché
Suffern ACE
@Mark S.: Well, you could just charge all the taxes up front, rather than bleeding people bit by bit. Keeps the riff-raff away from car ownership.
Tractarian
We are all Amercians now.
Todd
@thruppence:
So would Orly Taitz, so it just goes to show you how retarded the idea is.
Amir Khalid
@Gin & Tonic:
Depends. What else do you use your mustache for?
gbear
Pout, pout, stick your lip out.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@beltane:speaking about good gas mileage = tool of the devil one of my wingnut friends just lost it, when into a complete frothing rage because I bought a Ford Focus. Nothing says commie like 40 MPG on the highway. Here I was thinking cars were safe conversation topics.
It’s a good example of how nuts and emotion driven the Right has become. That’s why I don’t buy they will calm down with a President Mittens.
Suffern ACE
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: You should have told him that you only bought it because Ford didn’t take a bail out.
giltay
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: Canada is a Marxist monarchy!
Speaking of Canada, robocalls in the Wisconsin primary, god dammit! Do we need to ban robocalls entirely during election seasons, now?
The Red Pen
@TooManyJens:
I like that. It was supposed to be a reference to something, but you’re right.
Brachiator
@Todd:
I did not realize that Orly Taitz was one of the Republican candidates running for US Senate for California.
There are so many candidates, and so many Republicans that I missed her name.
I imagine that the votes she gets will tell us something about the wingnut fringe in California.
Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor
@jeffreyw:
Maybe that’s just how they masturbate.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Suffern ACE: It wouldn’t have matter. He bought some SUV and then moved to the extraburbs and when from a 5 mile commute one way to a 50 mile all because he couldn’t stand the moonbat liberals SF Bay Area. Basically it was tearful butt hurt because his behind was bleeding from the reaming he gave himself.
The prophet Nostradumbass
@The Red Pen: No, we haven’t got time.
fasteddie9318
@Shinobi: Obviously the appropriate response is something with a little more emotional kick behind it. He’s basically calling you un-American, and I wouldn’t stand for it. I’d suggest something like this:
“I really wish you would not impunge my national feelings in this way. You and I both live in American. And while we may have different perceptitudes as to the proper roll of government in Americanish life, we can at least agree that we both want what is best for American and the Americanish people. It may perhaps not have completely escaped your awareness as to the serious economic circumstances which have been in prevalence in several nations of the world, like such as Great Britain, whereunto the economy is contracting as a result of decisions to run a country like a business, when one is nothing like the other. But it would not be an occurrence upon my self to tell you that you should leave American and join your self to the Britishese such as your personal philosophy might presume. We have no necessity for ad ham attacking in our communications. May be if we can debate these issues in a civilization manner, it will boat well for the great nation of American also too.”
thruppence
@Todd: I voted against the open primary law here, but it won. There will be two voices in the Senate race. One will be Dianne Feinstein. The other candidate will be chosen in this primary. If all Democrats vote for Feinstein, her opponent may well be Orly Taitz. I’d rather have a better candidate in the race. Do you think that’s a bad idea?
Suffern ACE
Oh, now I am in the penalty box. Don’t know what bad word I used this time.
Anyway, @Mark S.: You could charge all the potential costs of car ownership up front. Well, you could, if your country was just one major metropolitan area.
Schlemizel
@Shinobi:
come on! Thats what socialism means to todays modern, hep conservative.
Svensker
@fasteddie9318:
I would have liked to have your child.
merrinc
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Nope. Found this out when I bought a Prius. Amazing the number of people (both friends and complete strangers) who think it gives them license to say some really rude stuff to me. It would bother me, except I’m too busy driving PAST the gas stations…
Speaking of the wingnut descent into utter irrationality, I read an article on Reuters about drug shortages and I thought it was pretty clear that said shortages were caused by manufacturers no longer making certain drugs because the profit margin was too low. Seemed to me that makes a pretty good case for why a for-profit healthcare system is immoral and inefficient. But then I made the mistake of reading the Comments section. Turns out it’s either the result of something Hillary did in the 90’s or Obamacare screwing us right now.
Suffern ACE
@Schlemizel: Yep. It’s pretty much any country where people can retire before 80 or have a minimum wage law.
Roger Moore
@danimal:
Might I suggest an exciting career in Federation Starship security? Those red shirts are very fetching.
gene108
@rlrr:
Scandinavia also has relatively free trade and doesn’t try to discourage private enterprise.
India screwed itself up by sticking to protectionism and socialism.
What Europe has is very far away from socialism, other than the acknowledgment that government can run a few things effectively.
pragmatism
@thruppence: Oily Taintz missed her Senate campaign filing deadlines. Shocking, I know.
giltay
Erm, s/primary/recall/ above.
thruppence
@pragmatism: Delightful, but her name is still listed on my official sample ballot. It will be interesting to see how many votes she gets and from where.
Schlemizel
@Suffern ACE:
Well thats specifically right in this case but more generally ANYTHING I don’t like is socialism.
“They put new bulbs in the street lights & now my bedroom is brighter than it was – DAMN SOCIALISTS!”
Anything that does not work, no matter who thought of it, who implemented it or why it failed is socialism.
“My soup was too salty – DAMN SOCIALISTS!”
Roger Moore
@Mark S.:
There are problems with that idea. Basically, the problem is that California is huge. If you leave all of California in the same Circuit, you still wind up with an unwieldy Circuit court. If you divide California between different Circuits, you have the very odd situation of State laws being applied inconsistently whenever the two Circuits disagree on something, meaning lots more appeals to the Supreme Court over matters raised in California.
SatanicPanic
@thruppence: I’ve seeing Orly Taitz signs along the street. I never thought it would come to this.
russ
@Enhanced Voting Techniques:
Freedom is 8 MPG in my Hummer and the EPA is infringing on your God given rights and you don’t care, stupid you!
jibeaux
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: I wonder why wingnuts have such a problem with the free market?
Roger Moore
@Suffern ACE:
ITYM “just one giant Socialist Paradise with functioning mass transit, so cars can rightly be treated as luxury items”.
Gin & Tonic
@Amir Khalid: That’s a very personal question, don’t you think?
redshirt
@Roger Moore: Thank you. The constant running for our life keeps us Redshirts fit and trim.
pragmatism
@thruppence: i’m all for her being subject to civil penalties, audit and/or other legal action.
thruppence
@pragmatism: Which she will undoubtedly use to prolong her perpetual victim schtick. “They’re all against me! Send me money!”
Mark S.
@Roger Moore:
It would still be better to have California and a state or two than to have California and eight other states.
The Red Pen
@Brachiator:
I just had an image of Orly Taitz sitting in her bathrobe eating a Pop-Tart and asking no one in particular, “Am I in the Senate yet?”
JPL
After Kerry’s loss to Bush in 2004, I believe it was Crooks and Liars who posted a 5 stages of grief but I can’t find it.
Does anyone remember it?
EriktheRed
Hey folks, I’ve been looking for this video I saw once (it may have even been posted on here) with a pretty dark-haired woman playing guitar onstage with 2 other women and they were singing a song about how homophobes might really be gay.
Anyone know what I’m talking about?
Jay in Oregon
@Mark S.:
To paraphrase Atrios (I know he is the first link that you pointed to), Very Serious People oppose raising the gas tax because they see it as politically unworkable. But suggesting that installing GPS trackers on everyone’s car to monitor their driving habits will go over just dandy!
Why the fuck do we listen to these people again??
Forum Transmitted Disease
@thruppence: California’s new “open primary” is a fucking joke, as any party can, by fiat, decide they don’t want to participate.
Guess who’s not participating this election?
Guess who was stupid enough to open theirs?
I can’t believe that law got passed with a built-in opt-out. Dems are letting Republicans vote in the Dem primary. Republicans are banning both Dems and Independents from theirs.
Fucking total shitshow fail parade.
gardenia breath
All eyes on WI – Let Democracy Prevail!
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@merrinc: It really is dumfounding how the Right refuses to see how the Freemarket works. In your example that’s how a private company supposed to work, it’s just not in the public interest in that case. They have the minds of twelve year olds were everything is black and white.
Indylib
Just voted in the Wisconsin recall. My polling place was pretty busy, no lines, but a constant stream of people voting. Certainly busier than the same time of day at the mid-terms.
JPL
@Indylib: fingers crossed
Another Halocene Human
@giltay:
YES. They’re exempted from laws restricting private entities from doing the same thing. Ban ALL robocalls. Just because it’s an election doesn’t mean they should be able to abuse us like that.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Forum Transmitted Disease: Speaking of GPS tracking for gas milage, speaking as someone who worked from Trimble Navigation, when in the heck did they get the lobby clout to pull a scam like this?
Another Halocene Human
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: You must validate my horrible choices! Now, dammit, now!
Another Halocene Human
@Enhanced Voting Techniques: They run around and show powerpoints to key officials and feed them lunch, which seems like a very weak bribe but thanks to our evolutionary past actually influences people much, much more than you’d think. (That’s why pharma reps used to feed, feed, feed medical personnel.)
Roger Moore
@Forum Transmitted Disease:
You’re way behind the times. The open primary has already been replaced (for everything except the Presidential primary) with a jungle primary. Everyone goes on the same ballot in the primary, and the top two duke it out in the general election, regardless of party. Nobody can opt out. My ballot this morning had Feinstein and the 23 (count-em!) dwarves for Senate.
Mino
@thruppence: Jennifer Granholm is out there now, too.
Bulworth
Wow, this post got the infamous Moore Award at you know who’s place. I didn’t think it worthy, but I guess it’s a slow day or teabag atrocities must be balanced by something very mean and not serious said by a lefty.
danimal
@thruppence: I did it. I confess. DiFi didn’t need my vote, and her blue doggy ways bug the crap out of me anyway. So I did the unthinkable: I voted for Orly Taitz.
The thought of having dear Orly representing the GOP for the next six months is beyond entertaining. It would be an order of magnitude crazier than Sharron Angle or Christine O’Donnell.