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NetRoot Nations Open Thread

by John Cole|  June 6, 20127:22 pm| 159 Comments

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DougJ and Mistermix are heading out tomorrow. How many of you plan on going? Do we have any plans for a meet-up for Balloon Juice? Are you all bringing your BJ paraphernalia so we represent?

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  1. 1.

    taylormattd

    June 6, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    WildPyrate and CS will be wearing the Impeach Now! paraphernalia.

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Tunch Obey shirts. Required uniform.

  3. 3.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    I think everyone who is going is dressing up as their favorite John Cole pet. I think Mistermix is going as Lily, and Doug J as Tunch.

  4. 4.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    @cathyx: He can’t go as Tunch he’s black now.

  5. 5.

    David Koch

    June 6, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    We should recall Doug and Mistermix

  6. 6.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    I expect someone who’s going to Providence to pose in front of Buddy Cianci Junior High for a pic.

  7. 7.

    Brian

    June 6, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    I won’t be at it, but I work in Providence and would meet people for Beer(s)

  8. 8.

    mistermix

    June 6, 2012 at 7:39 pm

    @cathyx: I’m more of a Rosie.

  9. 9.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    @mistermix: Then who is going to be Lily?

  10. 10.

    mistermix

    June 6, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    @cathyx: I’m afraid I know DougJ and myself well enough to know that neither of us is sweet enough to be Lily.

  11. 11.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    wish I could go. Have to be home to watch over my dad’s convalescence. I hope we get running reports and pics! :)

  12. 12.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 6, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    Are you all bringing your BJ paraphernalia so we represent?

    “We”? Who’s “we” pilgrim, you ain’t going are you? ;p

  13. 13.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    @mistermix: Well, I’m not able to attend, or I would do it. ABL isn’t sweet enough either. How about Kay? She seems really sweet.

  14. 14.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    How’s your dad today John?

  15. 15.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    @Raven: Ok, that was very sweet of you to ask that. You can go as Lily.

  16. 16.

    Violet

    June 6, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    @cathyx:

    I think everyone who is going is dressing up as their favorite John Cole pet. I think Mistermix is going as Lily, and Doug J as Tunch.

    If there are more than three people going, maybe it should be expanded to the entire Cole family. Two people could go as Ginny and Guesly and if there’s a third, they could play the role of John’s dad and bring a vacuum cleaner.

  17. 17.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @cathyx: Oddly, my last 6 months in Vietnam was in a National Guard unit from Providence. They put up a website a year or so back and I have been communicating with some of the guys. I plan to go there next May for a reunion.

  18. 18.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    We know way too much about Cole. It’s like he’s in a sitcom and we’re talking about our favorite episodes.

    It’s creepy but addictive.

  19. 19.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @Violet: Five people could go as that cat.

  20. 20.

    Violet

    June 6, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    @Raven:
    Heh. I actually guffawed out loud at that.

  21. 21.

    John Cole

    June 6, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @Raven: Doing well. They scooped out the kidney stone and sent him home last night. He’s still a little subdued, but feeling well.

  22. 22.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @John Cole: Great!

  23. 23.

    TX Expat

    June 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    We know way too much about Cole. It’s like he’s in a sitcom and we’re talking about our favorite episodes.

    So true. I’m torn between the day JC made the transition to DFH (the Terri Schiavo post) and the mopping naked incident.

  24. 24.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 6, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    I know John has no control over the ads but I just want to point out that the giant pink dildo is a tad oppressive. And no I have not been searching for anything remotely like that in case you were wondering. I do however approve of the “who rescued who” with a paw print t-shirt.

  25. 25.

    jharp

    June 6, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    John Cole is asking about a BJ meet up?

    What’s up with that? I thought you didn’t want to meet up with anyone.

  26. 26.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    totally OT, but I am going to my Opus Dei cousin’s wedding at the end of the month in Chicago. Anything you can recommend I should absolutely do while there. It’s been years since I’ve been so aside from taking pictures of all the cool buildings you have I want to get the low down from an expert :)

  27. 27.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @Raven: Are you planning on going as Lily?

  28. 28.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @BGinCHI: I want to play his mom.

  29. 29.

    Violet

    June 6, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    @John Cole:
    Glad your dad is doing okay. Sounds like it was a bit scary yesterday.

  30. 30.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    June 6, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    We are having some interesting – meaning intense – thunderstorms here in the Dallas area. We’ve had rain here about every three days over the last week or so. The really weird part is that we really should be in the dry season right now, not getting 3+ inches of rain. I put up an above ground pool over labor day weekend and I have not needed to add any additional water since I initially filled it. We’ve had 65mph winds and hail in some areas.

  31. 31.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    @Valdivia: Catholic wedding: up, down, up, down, long sermon from the priest, up, down, up, down, up, bride walks down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, boring reception. Have fun!

  32. 32.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 6, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    We know way too much about Cole. It’s like he’s in a sitcom and we’re talking about our favorite episodes

    Does that make DougJ Kramer? Norton? Jerry Helper? Mr Drydsdale?

  33. 33.

    JPL

    June 6, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    @Raven: Have you read the article about one of our wonderful charter schools? link
    A friend’s daughter teaches in the No. Fulton Cty science high school and quickly became uneasy about their practices. She’s hoping to transfer to a public school. She loved the fact that she had small classrooms but didn’t trust the administration. Her friend taught chemistry and was let go in January because the principals wife wanted the job. Who knew we had so many Turkish folks.

  34. 34.

    David Koch

    June 6, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    I hope Doug has enough stones go through with his plan to parody the lefty purity police. I suggest heckling Elizabeth Warren for not being liberal enough to endorse single-payer and heckling KThug for his nutty support of NAFTA (perhaps through in an Enron dig).

  35. 35.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 6, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    Any meet-up that involves late night drinking has to be followed by a trip to Haven Bros., a mobile diner parked next to City Hall. Trust me on this.

  36. 36.

    beltane

    June 6, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Fred Mertz?

  37. 37.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @Yutsano:

    latina jewish girl here hoping they let me skip some of the up down stuff. My back may not take it! Also, too, the whole Opus Dei thing has me a little concerned. :)

  38. 38.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 8:10 pm

    @Yutsano: My brother had one of those. My knees still hurt. And it’s been 26 years.

  39. 39.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    @cathyx:

    oy. please don’t tell me that! now I will have a bad back and bad knees?

    @David Koch:
    I had no idea this was part of the plan. I definitely hope we get reports.

  40. 40.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:

    If there is one thing that I miss about being in the Navy it is the late night visit to the “oggie wagon” (mobile diner) after a night out at the club. Wandering back to Wrens quarters chowing down on a steaming pile of curry and chips was just heaven.

  41. 41.

    Stuck in the Funhouse

    June 6, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    DougJ and Mistermix are heading out tomorrow

    I trust they’ll be galloping in on the Balloon Juice Unicorn. Or is that too Obotty for that crowd?

  42. 42.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 6, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Well, you won’t get curry and chips at Haven Bros.

  43. 43.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @Valdivia: Just get there late so you can stand in the back.

  44. 44.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 6, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    @Gin & Tonic:
    Mores the pity.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    June 6, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @Valdivia:

    totally OT, but I am going to my Opus Dei cousin’s wedding at the end of the month in Chicago. Anything you can recommend I should absolutely do while there.

    1) Avoid doing anything with anyone from Opus Dei except official functions. Those guys are creeeeeepy.

    2) Chicago Art Institute

    3) Wrigley

  46. 46.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @cathyx:

    The only little wrinkle is that I am standing in for my Mom who can’t be there so I have to walk with my Uncle down the aisle. Maybe I can do that and then walk right to the back of the Church again.

    @Roger Moore:
    thank you. I will try to stay away from the ones in garb!

  47. 47.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    Oh BTW for all of those BJ members that are in NC, all us dedicated Obots over at The Fogbow are having a meetup in Myrtle Beach in October, if you want to get together with like minded folks go over and register for The Fogbow and get to know us all in time for the meetup.

  48. 48.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @JPL: Yup, swines.

  49. 49.

    Dr. Dave

    June 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    If I weren’t doing solo parent duty this weekend, I would consider joining up for a beer, so instead I’ll recommend Union Station Brewery as one of my favorite local places–the beer is fresh and the food is pretty good. If you’re willing to travel a couple miles away from downtown, there are some great little upscale restaurants in my neighborhood–Chez Pascal (French, obviously), Pizzico (Italian), and Cooke and Brown (eclectic, using mostly local food.) I’ll wave from the front porch as you go by.

  50. 50.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @beltane:

    Ralph Kramden?

    ETA: That would be John. DougJ would be Ed Norton.

  51. 51.

    David Koch

    June 6, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    The guys could also call on Warren to wage a “primary/floor fight” at the convention for the presidential nomination.

  52. 52.

    Roger Moore

    June 6, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Catholic wedding: up, down, up, down, long sermon from the priest, up, down, up, down, up, bride walks down, up, down, up, down, up, down, up, boring reception. Have fun!

    Of course, you could always try the classic “up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A” and hope it lets you skip over the boring part.

  53. 53.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 6, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    We know way too much about Cole. It’s like he’s in a sitcom and we’re talking about our favorite episodes.

    Honestly, this is The Single Best Thing I’ve ever seen on Bloonjooce. Brilliant.

  54. 54.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 6, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    We know way too much about Cole. It’s like he’s in a sitcom and we’re talking about our favorite episodes.

    Honestly, this is The Single Best Thing I’ve ever seen on Bloonjooce.

    Brilliant.

  55. 55.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    I am now thinking that what I need is to start drinking the night before!

  56. 56.

    PurpleGirl

    June 6, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    @Valdivia: I would say that as long as you stand up, you can get away with not kneeling and just sit at the edge of the pew. (I did that for years as a Catholic and as a Lutheran.)

  57. 57.

    Anne Laurie

    June 6, 2012 at 8:32 pm

    @Valdivia:

    oy. please don’t tell me that! now I will have a bad back and bad knees?

    Carry a cane, and try to look vaguely embarrassed whenever the people around you stand/kneel. Visible orthopedic aids can be a perfectly legitimate “signal” even when you technically don’t need them — nobody thinks that every blind person is wearing dark glasses to protect their eyes.

  58. 58.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 6, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    the giant pink dildo is a tad oppressive.

    Wait, what? I didn’t get a giant pink dildo.

    In fact, I got no dildo of any size or colour.

    What does a person have to do around here to be oppressed?

  59. 59.

    Maude

    June 6, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Valdivia:
    My cousin married a Catholic man and during the High Mass, it was so hot in the church because it was August that she fainted. She had on one of those full length gowns and veil. She went down like an old balloon.

  60. 60.

    Phylllis

    June 6, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: When in October? I’m there the last week of the month for a conference.

  61. 61.

    PurpleGirl

    June 6, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I agree with idea. While I use a cane to help me go and down stairs, I don’t need it for walking. But it is a good visual that I do need to sit in a bus.

  62. 62.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    @Anne Laurie: @Maude:

    thank you all for advise and for scaring me into a panic attack about this wedding!

    I am going to need to buy one of those silver flasks to carry with me

  63. 63.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @PurpleGirl:

    thanks too!

  64. 64.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 6, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I do not know what of my google searches prompted the giant pink dildo but it was there (that’ll teach me for following the birthers)

    @Phylllis:

    We are chucking about the weekend of the 7th and the weekend of the 14th right now.

  65. 65.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    June 6, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    @John Cole:

    Doing well. They scooped out the kidney stone and sent him home last night. He’s still a little subdued, but feeling well.

    Did you have any trouble getting him in and out of the carrier? They can be a handful.

  66. 66.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Valdivia: My niece is getting married at the most expensive resort on Maui next month. We’re going but we’re not staying there.

  67. 67.

    lamh35

    June 6, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    When people go on vacation to Hawaii, what island do you mainly go to?

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 9:00 pm

    @lamh35: You almost always fly into Honolulu, which is on Oahu. From there you can hop to any of the islands, though Waikiki is still very popular. The Big Island (Hawai’i) has the volcano and great surfing. Maui is a ton of resorts and is also popular. Molokai is for when you really want to get away from the crowds. But you can go to any island. In fact if you limit yourself to just one you’re missing out. Hops are cheap and rental cars are plentiful.

  69. 69.

    Lojasmo

    June 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    Ran 38.5 minutes on single track today. My feet hurt. +2 and waiting for wifey to get home. Kid is fed and chatting on the phone.

    Laundry. Waiting for a “good” location for net roots.

  70. 70.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @Yutsano: We’re going straight to OGG.

  71. 71.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    @Lojasmo: Make sure you change directions, stress fractures are a stone motherfucker.

  72. 72.

    Maude

    June 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    @Valdivia:
    You’re not the bride. You’ll be fine, drunk, but fine.

  73. 73.

    Gabriel Bellatrix

    June 6, 2012 at 9:07 pm

    I’m being sent for work. Then again, I’m mostly a lurker here.

  74. 74.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @Raven:

    your wedding sounds so much better than the one I am going to!

    @efgoldman:

    can’t stop laughing at the Maciel shirt!

  75. 75.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:10 pm

    @Valdivia: If I can get my ass out on a boat in search of the “big one” it will be. Unfortunately no one in our party seems interested in a trip that leaves at 2:30am.

  76. 76.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    June 6, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    @Gabriel Bellatrix:

    I’m being sent for work. Then again, I’m mostly a lurker here.

    You can go as me. Practice being endearing.

  77. 77.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 6, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    @Valdivia:

    I am going to need to buy one of those silver flasks to carry with me

    I have more than one. Carry several and secret them about your person. It will help.

  78. 78.

    Maude

    June 6, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:
    Or she could wear the beer can hat and sip from the straw.

  79. 79.

    beltane

    June 6, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    Jeez, people need to be careful with their Facebook apps. Socialcam means that all your friends can see whatever it is that you’re watching, and I REALLY do not want to know what some of my guy friends from high school are watching. Some things in life should not be shared.

  80. 80.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @beltane: Not as long as they post the disclaimer.

  81. 81.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I like how you think!

  82. 82.

    Southern Beale

    June 6, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    I’ve never been.

  83. 83.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    @beltane: I have friends, a mother and daughter (both adults) that have conversations on their FB wall all the time. They carry on these conversations including where they are and when they are leaving. They live in the SAME house!

  84. 84.

    Southern Beale

    June 6, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    I’m sure a gazillion media people are gonna show up and cover the event ad nauseum like they do CPAC right? RIGHT????

  85. 85.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    @Southern Beale: Been what?

  86. 86.

    cathyx

    June 6, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    @Maude: No better yet the wine bra. I know they exist because I gave it to someone for their birthday.

  87. 87.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 6, 2012 at 9:28 pm

    @Maude: Good back-up plan.

  88. 88.

    beltane

    June 6, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    @Raven: My teenage sons used to fight with each other on FB until I pointed out that everyone is not terribly interested in reading their crap. I kind of liked it when I was a teenager and we did all our socializing on stoops (this was in NYC). Whatever was said and done on a stoop never left the stoop.

  89. 89.

    Anne Laurie

    June 6, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Carry several and secret them about your person. It will help.

    If she carries enough to share, it will make her VERY popular!

  90. 90.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:33 pm

    @beltane: These folks post stuff like when to pick up the kids. Right now they are discussing who will be home when the guy comes to fix the dog fence. I realize I am hyper-vigilant but goddamn.

  91. 91.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    @Valdivia: Museums and the Art Institute, the river architectural tour (by boat).

    Depends what you want to do/see.

    You want restaurant, neighborhood, bar, shopping recs let me know.

    If you want to experience the full South Asian immigrant experience, with amazing restaurants and markets, walk Devon Avenue on the far north side.

    Others here will mention things I’m forgetting. Let me know some specifics and I’ll try to help.

  92. 92.

    beltane

    June 6, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    Part of me wants to drive down to Providence to see what all you people look like. Do Jane Hamsher, Taylor Marsh, and Matt Stoller still go to these things or is their an alternate conference for crazy people being held somewhere?

  93. 93.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 6, 2012 at 9:35 pm

    @Raven:

    That is one of the saddest things I have ever read. I mean seriously they live in the same house and they communicate on Facebook? Seriously?

  94. 94.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @BGinCHI: That boat tour was amazing. I’m originally from the burbs and I had NO idea. The Museum of Science and Industry is cool and there is always Wrigley.

  95. 95.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: I have friends that communicate on Facebook when one is downstairs and the other is upstairs. They say yelling upsets their dog. I choose not to judge.

  96. 96.

    Lojasmo

    June 6, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    @Raven:
    I run on single track mountainbike trails. Very unstable. Multiple biderectional seitchbacks.

  97. 97.

    beltane

    June 6, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    @Raven: Do they leave their door unlocked with a flashing neon sign announcing that the house is vacant because they might as well.

  98. 98.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    @Yutsano: There is a function called “messages” where you can communicate both synchronously and asynchronously. I don’t care about how it looks, I care about putting out information that could cause problems for them and their kids.

  99. 99.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    @Raven: It’s probably the single most enlightening thing you can do while here.

    I should add, if Valdivia comes back, that seeing some music and a play would be a good idea too.

    Hey V, where are you from? If you’re culture deprived, that makes a difference.

    Also, I assume an Opus Dei wedding begins by you taking either a blood oath or a pill that alters your reality. Or both.

  100. 100.

    Lojasmo

    June 6, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    FYWP. No edit in ios. Very unpredictable running surface. Also, too, I run in minimalist shoes, and so avoid heel strike.

  101. 101.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @Lojasmo: Ah, I thought you meant a circular track. I got a stress fracture on my inside leg doing that.

  102. 102.

    Lojasmo

    June 6, 2012 at 9:41 pm

    @Valdivia:

    Museum of natural history sucks.

  103. 103.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:42 pm

    @Raven: You still have two perfectly good ones.

  104. 104.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @BGinCHI: Seeing the Bean is cool too!

  105. 105.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:43 pm

    @BGinCHI: Smile when you say that!

  106. 106.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    @Lojasmo: It’s not half as much fun as walking around Wicker Park and lightly slapping the Cool Kids.

    But remember, if you go, to also slap ironically.

  107. 107.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    @BGinCHI: Opus Dei means full Mass wedding. Also known as one of Dante’s Circles of Hell.

  108. 108.

    Lojasmo

    June 6, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    @Raven:

    Good lord, no. Packed earth in slippers is my gig. An occasional bellyflop from rock or root adds to the experience.

  109. 109.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:45 pm

    @BGinCHI: My city buddies are all from the Cal-Touhy area and that transition of Devon Ave is mind boggling.

  110. 110.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    @Lojasmo: I remember those days. It’s swimming daily for me now.

  111. 111.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:47 pm

    @Yutsano: How’s the back healing? Sprints in Gas Works Park yet? I miss Ballard.

  112. 112.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:48 pm

    @Raven: It’s like a whoooole other country. Some crazy good eats for sure.

    Hema’s Kitchen. Yummay.

  113. 113.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:49 pm

    Rachel is going after Romney for being a chicken shit draft dodger.

  114. 114.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    @Raven: Rereading Heinemann’s novel Paco’s Story.

    Jesus H. Christ what a great novel. Should be required reading for all war orgasmos.

  115. 115.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    “Though an early supporter of the Vietnam War, Romney avoided military service at the height of the fighting after high school by seeking and receiving four draft deferments, according to Selective Service records. They included college deferments and a 31-month stretch as a “minister of religion” in France, a classification for Mormon missionaries that the church at the time feared was being overused. “

  116. 116.

    muddy

    June 6, 2012 at 9:52 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    We know way too much about Cole. It’s like he’s in a sitcom and we’re talking about our favorite episodes.

    I don’t know whether to be proud or embarrassed that a former boyfriend once told me that my life was like a sitcom, only the things that happened would be too ridiculous even for a sitcom, and everyone would run away.

    Oh, I guess I’m proud, or I wouldn’t bring it up.

  117. 117.

    Raven

    June 6, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    @BGinCHI: Been a while, may have to revisit.

    Check Phil Beidler of the Alabama English Dept.

  118. 118.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @Raven: When they debate, Team Obama should lure Mitt into saying “But you didn’t serve in the military either,” to which Obama will reply:

    “I’ve been Commander in Chief for almost 4 years in which we killed Osama bin Laden and almost the whole of the AQ upper management. Are you saying that’s not national service?”

  119. 119.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 9:55 pm

    @BGinCHI: It’s getting better, and the walking is coming back to almost normal. I still can’t do any twisting or bending yet and I’m not foolish enough to try. I did get the PT order though and it’s a LOT. But there were a lot of muscles down there that got moved around and put back plus they will be weakened from lack of use. I’m getting there, but I think work will be on hold until July now.

  120. 120.

    fuckwit

    June 6, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Way off topic, but it just occurred to me that the reason the Galtian Overlords and corporations are sitting on massive assloads of cash and not spending it back into the economy IS BECAUSE INFLATION IS TOO FUCKING LOW.

    I haven’t even heard Krugthlu say it this simply. I am not an economist, but even as a home economist I can see this blaring, glaring truth.

    If your cash is just sitting there in the bank, ready for you to spend whenever you damn well please, there is no reason to spend or invest it! Just sit on it; it ain’t going nowhere.

    But with inflation, you had damn well better spend that stuff now before it loses value! That gets people spending, especially rich people and corporations sitting on cash.

    And, not only do you have to spend it, but if you want to keep it, now you have to pedal harder and INVEST IT in risky or at least high-interest endeavors in an attempt to get a return higher than inflation!

    This is basic risk-management: you sock your money away in safe investments or just cash, and just sit on it if you can, but if you have inflation going on, you have to reinvest that money back into your business (or in more speculative investments that will spur the economy) otherwise you lose it.

    This is what the Europeans are missing. This is what Bernacke is missing. They’re so obsessed with keeping interest rates down so tha the rich can stay rich, they’re ignoring what we most desperately need: to FORCE those fuckers to spend that shit back into the economy, so that all of us can get our hands on it and stop suffering.

    Your choice, rich assholes: you can either invest it, in investments of your “free-market” choice, due to high inflation making it not safe to just sit on it anymore, or we can tax it out of your greedy-ass hands and distribute it in a more liberal, social-justice manner. Your call, Galitian dogfuckers.

    Good old Friedman-esque monetary policy can be used to jumpstart the economy– don’t even need Keysianism. All you need is some inflation to pry this cash out of their hands and get it circulating again.

  121. 121.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:57 pm

    @muddy: If it was a hysterical sitcom, but in a clinical and not all that funny way I probably dated you.

  122. 122.

    Stuck in the Funhouse

    June 6, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Aroldis Chapman, lefty closer for the Reds, has become some kind of force of nature. 100 plus MPH fastballs, and just closed another one in order. His 29th inning pitched this year, without a single earned run having scored. That is the equivalent for three plus shutout games for a starting pitcher. Just amazing.

  123. 123.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    @Yutsano: Day by day. Work the PT as hard as you can stand. The pain means you’re doing it right, as with most things in adulthood.

  124. 124.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @fuckwit: Kthug does say this, for sure. Though often in fancier parlance. He hammers the krauts about it constantly.

    Is “krauts” a racial slur? I love sauerkraut too much for that to be possible.

  125. 125.

    Mike in NC

    June 6, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    @Raven:

    Though an early supporter of the Vietnam War, Romney avoided military service at the height of the fighting after high school by seeking and receiving four draft deferments, according to Selective Service records.

    I just cannot decide who I despise more for being a serial chickenhawk: Cheney or Romney. If I’m not mistaken, Willard stated years later that “he wished he’d gone to Vietnam”. Fucking hypocrites.

  126. 126.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    @Stuck in the Funhouse: Fuck the Reds.

    /sour grapes

  127. 127.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    @BGinCHI: The PT will wait until I’m back home in Seattle. It would be rather reckless to do it now before the tissues have healed. I wondered why he was giving that to me now, he’s gonna have to print it again when I do the follow-up in two weeks.

  128. 128.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 10:05 pm

    @Yutsano: Yepper on that. You don’t want to re-injure. But pushing yourself will make a big difference when you can handle it.

  129. 129.

    Yutsano

    June 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @BGinCHI: Heh. That will not be a problem. I have two PTs that are going to do a dual clinical on me when I get back. One is an Amazon. The other looks like a fratboy (because he is) and is a complete sadist. Pushing myself is not going to be an issue.

  130. 130.

    Roger Moore

    June 6, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @Stuck in the Funhouse:

    That is the equivalent for three plus shutout games for a starting pitcher. Just amazing.

    Not really. For one thing, Chapman has allowed an unearned run to score, which would end a shutout streak for a starting pitcher. For another thing, pitching in one inning stretches is very different, and less challenging, than pitching complete games. For a third thing, stretches of 29 consecutive scoreless innings are common enough among starters that they constitute more of a really nice stretch than a sign that the pitcher is a force of nature. Come back when Chapman is challenging Hershiser’s record 59 consecutive scoreless (not “no earned runs”) innings.

  131. 131.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    @Yutsano: They’ll make a Yuts sandwich out of you. Hang in there.

  132. 132.

    BGinCHI

    June 6, 2012 at 10:11 pm

    @Roger Moore: Shorter Old James Bond: Fuck the Reds.

  133. 133.

    muddy

    June 6, 2012 at 10:23 pm

    @BGinCHI: I dunno, it’s quite possible, what are your initials? No, it was more like ridiculous situations. You know these these silly situations in sitcoms that would never happen, and they just dig themselves deeper and deeper. I’m a magnet for it.

    Still am. This week included surprise hospital visit when I thought I was just getting electrolytes tested, coming home to find HW heater had shit the bed, can’t wash hospital stench and stickies from telemetry, fill tub with water from the stove. Guy comes out on and says, “It’s broken, I put a bucket under the overflow pipe, call the mfr.” I go down later to check the level, it’s pouring over and flooded the cellar, idiot did not shut off the BIg Yellow Valve of incoming water. Besides paying for the water and then the associated sewer bill, they sent me a bill today for $117 for that. They can go fk themselves for that one. I wave my lawyer at them.

    Trying all week to get with mfr, the installer says, we don’t do HW heaters. I said you put this one in. They pretend I am lying. I describe the guy and say I have their bill in my hand. Oh. Mfr won’t reply directly because I am not a dealer. Meanwhile the doc office keeps calling up saying I need to go back for more testing, I have been there 3 times since I got out. But I am waiting for call backs about the water and don’t want to go. It’s life or death, they say!!

    Finally give in and go back to hospital, they have no paperwork and pretend I am lying. I got in an argument with the phlebotomist who gave me a hematoma the size of a goose egg, while cleverly taking a sample from the same vein as the IV. They tell me my K is so out of whack they don’t know why I am alive. I thank them for that, point out the hematoma. Oh. They keep changing my meds around with each call, and then they don’t like the results and I have to go back. It’s in another town, it’s a hassle. They say take an ambulance. But the volunteer rescue subscription ran out *the day before*, and I don’t want to pay full price.

    I come back today, decide to run the dishwasher without hot water, just relying on the extra heat setting. Get off the phone with my sister and smell smoke. The kitchen is full of it, can’t see. I thought it was the brown rice and chicken livers I was cooking for the dog, but it was the dishwasher. I looked to see if anything fell on the element. No, but smoke is billowing out all over from the case. I hate this dw, and have hoped it would break so I could get a new one, but damn, not today.

    All the health stuff happened because I took a little road trip in the first place. That’ll teach me to have a vacation. It’s a good thing I am not a believer, or I would be thinking god was a real asshole by now.

    Yeah, sitcom. I am laughing my head off right now, imagine me. Even though this is a long comment, I left a bunch of things out, like the idiocy of every single person I had to talk to. They think I am lying or stupid, I turn out to be right, and then they think I am a wicked bitch for sticking up for myself.

    “My chest is aching, it burns like a furnace, the furnace keeps me alive.”

  134. 134.

    Roger Moore

    June 6, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Shorter Old James Bond: Fuck the Reds.

    More like “That’s nice son, tell me when he’s done something impressive”. Hell, Christy Mathewson pitched 27 consecutive scoreless innings in a 5 game World Series, and Walter Johnson did it in just over 72 hours (Friday, Saturday, and the first game of a Monday double header) on Labor Day weekend. 29 innings with one unearned runs just isn’t that big a deal.

  135. 135.

    jake the snake

    June 6, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    They need to make a pilgrimage to HP Lovecraft’s grave.
    If I went to Providence, I would.
    Maybe they can have some sort of Cosmic Horror Netroots meetup there.

  136. 136.

    Stuck in the Funhouse

    June 6, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    That’s an awfully serious take on my comment. And thanks for pointing out the obvious in a truth to power kind of way. . “force of nature” It is a figure of speech that can mean Whatever anyone saying it wants it to mean. You disagree, noted and dismissed. And besides, all Dodgers and their fans are assholes. Everyone knows this eternal truth.

  137. 137.

    muddy

    June 6, 2012 at 10:28 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Willard stated years later that “he wished he’d gone to Vietnam”.

    He can still go now, but does he? psh

  138. 138.

    Valdivia

    June 6, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    I will get details and I will ask you more specifics. Thank you!

  139. 139.

    Roger Moore

    June 6, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Willard stated years later that “he wished he’d gone to Vietnam”.

    I wish he had gone there as a 2nd Lt. Getting fragged would have improved his personality. A lot.

  140. 140.

    Nellcote

    June 6, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Do wingnut bloggers still do their Anti-Kos Konvention at the same time/place as NN?

  141. 141.

    Bago

    June 6, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Oy. When I did the whole times square new years bit with my stoner friends, we hit 3 food trucks on the way back to Brooklyn. A whole lotta Schawarma. Good memories indeed.

  142. 142.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 6, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    @jake the snake: The grave is not a very big deal, frankly.

  143. 143.

    Bago

    June 6, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    @BGinCHI: Winer.

  144. 144.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:22 am

    @Valdivia: Cool buildings? Check out everything Louis Sullivan designed in Chicago, starting with the Auditorium. My all-time favorite architect.

  145. 145.

    BGinCHI

    June 7, 2012 at 12:23 am

    @Bago: You left out an n.

  146. 146.

    Valdivia

    June 7, 2012 at 12:26 am

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:

    Thank you! I am giddy about the architectural magnificence I will encounter!

  147. 147.

    patrick II

    June 7, 2012 at 12:30 am

    @Valdivia:

    I would add the top of the Hancock building to what BGinChi suggests. I like to time arriving at the top about 30 minutes before sunset and watch the sun go down. It is a remarkable sight.

    If you are walkers, the Hancock is 1.8 miles from the Art Institute, straight up Michigan Ave. So, starting from the art institute it would be the Art Institute, Millenium park, magnificent mile, water tower, Hancock building.

    And then a long nights sleep.

  148. 148.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:33 am

    @Raven:

    Though an early supporter of the Vietnam War, Romney avoided military service

    It’s the chickenhawk “War Supporter Who Didn’t Serve” thing that pisses me off. I was (barely) old enough to go to Nam, but I went to college, got a 2S and didn’t go. I didn’t support the war either. Marched in the Moratorium (not that it did any good). For me, since I didn’t get drafted and didn’t volunteer, I have no moral ground to support any other wars in my lifetime. And I haven’t.

    WTF is it with these people, who will cheerlead my Nat’l Guard son to fight and die but who wouldn’t do it themselves? I guess that’s what you call “Supporting the Troops”.

  149. 149.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:37 am

    @BGinCHI:

    “I’ve been Commander in Chief for almost 4 years in which we killed Osama bin Laden and almost the whole of the AQ upper management. Are you saying that’s not national service?”

    I’m saying it’s not. He wasn’t in physical danger, he wasn’t even in danger of total enervating boredom stateside for three years. I wouldn’t use this line of argument.

  150. 150.

    Valdivia

    June 7, 2012 at 12:39 am

    @patrick II:

    Thank you! I love to walk.

  151. 151.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:40 am

    @Yutsano:

    I still can’t do any twisting or bending yet and I’m not foolish enough to try.

    After my most recent back “episode” the Physical Therapist said, brightly, “Let’s see how far you can bend forward.” My answer was “Not a chance!”

    I almost touched my toes when we were done, so it went well.

  152. 152.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:48 am

    @muddy: I dunno, if your life was a sitcom, I’d watch it. It’s got that horribly embarrassing, Jeez, I’m glad this didn’t happen to me vibe of the Lucy Show.
    Except, y’know, I didn’t particularly like that kind of sitcom. Can you add either irony or snark to make it more like Seinfeld or The Nanny? Work up a treatment and have your girl call my girl.

  153. 153.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:52 am

    @Stuck in the Funhouse:

    all Dodgers and their fans are assholes.

    Except Brooklyn Dodgers. Anecdote: My father who grew up in Long Island visited me in California when I was sharing a house with a couple of Dodgers fans. The reaction when he told them he used to watch them at Ebbets Field was priceless.

  154. 154.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    June 7, 2012 at 12:54 am

    @Valdivia: With Louis, it’s all about the ornament. Frank Lloyd Wright was his student, and totally missed that part.

    And forget Mies van der Rohe’s “Less is more.” No, you fuckwit, less is LESS!

  155. 155.

    Mnemosyne

    June 7, 2012 at 1:05 am

    @Valdivia:

    Tea at the Drake Hotel. It’s right on Miracle Mile near Water Tower Place. It sounds like it must be snooty, but it’s actually very relaxed and fairly casual (though since I’ve lived in California for 20 years, my standard of “casual” is much lower than the one in Chicago).

    Also, too, at the wedding you should sit and stand when everyone else does, but it’s perfectly acceptable to remain seated while everyone else kneels.

    @Yutsano:

    We were married by a Unitarian minister, and the 15 minute ceremony was over before our Catholic relatives had gotten settled in. They looked a little shell-shocked at how fast it went.

    Having mojitos at the reception directly after the ceremony reconciled them to it, though.

  156. 156.

    Yutsano

    June 7, 2012 at 1:10 am

    @Mnemosyne: If it ever does happen (and I had a talk with the NYD about it tonight that did not go as I expected, but in a good way) the ceremony itself shouldn’t take more than 20 minutes. That leaves lots of time for the reception!!

    EDIT: FYWP.

  157. 157.

    Steve S from RI

    June 7, 2012 at 8:09 am

    Any BJ folks who can make it over during the afternoons to Trinity Brewhouse on Fountain St. in Providence who want to have a beer and discuss politics (or anything for that matter) can ask the bartender to point out Steve. I’m there every day after 4. Even though my beer mug says “Get the fuck away from me”, I’m actually quite approachable.

  158. 158.

    elftx

    June 7, 2012 at 12:25 pm

    @Valdivia:

    Italian Beef with sweet peppers and lots of mozzarella !!

    I say that because I miss it and want one soooo bad.

  159. 159.

    JR

    June 7, 2012 at 1:55 pm

    I’m rockin’ the mod look right now on the Amtrak NE Regional (we just pulled into Penn Station), but sometime on this trip I’ll be wandering in my “Union Thug” tee.

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