I really appreciate John and the rest of you contributing to send me and DougJ to Netroots Nation because otherwise I wouldn’t have seen this, which is the battle between BIG MONEY and SMALL MONEY, because nobody at NRN understands that BIG MONEY is ruling our world, and we need a very concrete example of that, with BIG MONEY represented as quarters and SMALL MONEY represented as pennies. I would have also missed someone playing a YouTube video of “Dump You” to the tune of Cee Lo Green’s “Fuck You” which which apparently was about some effort to dump those who didn’t have sufficient progressive values.
Also, too, I hope all of you will be contributing to my liver transplant fund because DougJ and I are already +3 a couple of hours after getting into Providence.
danimal
I’m betting on the BIG MONEY quarters.
Baud
I posted this in the last thread, but this is relevant to the money chase question:
paradox
I like the legs. Please have a wonderful time, y’all don’t have to do anything, just be in the scene, man.
gogol's wife
@Baud:
Let’s hope that translates into votes. God, the Supreme Court makes me sick. I just explained Citizens United to the woman who cuts my hair. She had no idea. She’d never heard of it. When people hear about it they are horrified, but the word has not reached most of them.
blahblah
This looks mind-numbing.
Better you than me.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Snark? Given the context it’s hard to guess.
Dump you doesn’t respond to a you tube search. I guess that means I should walk away from the computer and do something marginally useful
Baud
Nobody wants to be progressive anymore. It’s too popular.
/apologies to Y. Berra.
Dave
Thank goodness for our progressive betters. I never would have realized that Big Money was a problem without that visual.
Baud
A true progressive would have used Sacagawea dollars.
Valdivia
why not dollar coins?
Brandon
Somehow I don’t think that people donated so that you can go to mock and ridicule. I imagine the Daily Caller and the Breitgang have that angle well covered.
Is it silly? Yes. Does it matter? No. People feel like they’ve gotta express themselves so let them do it. OTOH, the pro-purity purger is a bit disturbing.
jl
Only +3? Each or for both? Sounds like you are having to stretch already.
I guess this blog can set up an emergency paypal widget quick if the cash runs dry and you guys are sobering up.
I will check back regularly.
Poopyman
@paradox: I believe that’s the main takeaway from that image.
Sigh. Work has kept me home this year, else Mrs. P and I would be there again to see what the kids are up to these days.
Save some liver for Kos’ Saturday night party. Do. Not. Miss. It. Other than that, do some people spotting. Probably won’t get any Breitbart sightings like last year, but if you do, they’ll be even more newsworthy. Sit in on as many sessions as you can. Pick the boring ones after lunch to get your napping in so you can be fresh for the parties later on. Pace yourselves (It sounds like you’re not. Rookies.)
MattR
Sorry, but after this past weekend’s HS reunion that money is already allcoated to others. Folks at the hotel told us they had done many reunions in the past but had never seen a group drink like we did (so much that the manager of the attached bar refused to honor the agreement to stay open late and offer us drink specials)
Baud
@Brandon:
Although I mock, I kind of agree with you. I’ve never been to an NN convention, and I’m curious what our BJ reps think of them, good and bad.
Brandon
I just realized that the winner of this contest is quite easy to judge. When using currency to make letters, smaller money = smaller pixel size = higher resolution. We all know that higher resolution is always better.
Which reminds me that the new Apple TV is now 1080p and only 99 bucks. I am considering getting one now, jailbreaking it and loading XBMC.
Cassidy
@Brandon: Ummmm….it’s DougJ and mistermix. Did you really think there would be no snark or mocking?
Baud
@paradox:
I think that’s Doug J.
hhex65
drink moar
Baud
@paradox:
I think that’s Doug J.
Stuck in the Funhouse
Cole should have sent me to that shindig, and we could all find out if firebaggers can ride a Unicorn sidesaddle while sucking their thumbs in a pique of outrage.
Good to know they can at least spell/but can they juggle, stilt walk, stuff like that.
Stuck in the Funhouse
Cole should have sent me to that shindig, and we could all find out if firebaggers can ride a Unicorn sidesaddle while sucking their thumbs in a pique of outrage.
Good to know they can at least spell/but can they juggle, stilt walk, stuff like that.
Tonal Crow
@Brandon:
Well-nigh the only useful stuff on this site is Tim F’s vote-whipping and Tom Levenson’s science commentaries. Most of the rest is various kinds of snark and meta-snark, interblog navel-gazing, and (of course) trolling for page-hits by bashing progressives.
If you want incisive analysis, I recommend going elsewhere.
TooManyJens
@Baud:
Ithe Tooth Fairy gave my daughter one of those for her first tooth last night. She was really excited. Is the TF a true progressive?TooManyJens
@Tonal Crow: You should read more of Kay’s posts.
EIGRP
@Brandon: I’m not sure the new model has been jailbroken yet. If it is, I will do the same thing as you.
Eric
Quicksand
@Brandon:
The new Apple TV is not jailbreakable — not now, and not in the foreseeable future.
NO XBMC FOR YOU!
Baud
@Tonal Crow: You forgot pet photos and sports commentary.
Chyron HR
@Brandon:
Gentlemen, you can’t mock and ridicule in here! This is Balloon Juice!
Anoniminous
Metrosexual Black AbeJ traveling separately?
Jewish Steel
I’m looking forward to a balanced, Broderian take on NN from DougJ and MM.
srv
Well. we still have REAL progressives out here in CA. Those of you in SF can see John Cole’s favorite cartoonist, Ted Rall, tonight at the Cartoon Art Museum:
Obama was the Manchurian Candidate to keep the left from revolting.
Marcellus Shale, Public Dick
well, the one thing about small money, its the preferred currency at thunderbird nation.
take one for the team.
mistermix
@Baud: I told that to the woman using quarters and it wasn’t well received.
LGRooney
Okay, so it only took me almost 20 years of the internet and 10+ years of blogs to finally understand the symbol, e.g., here, +3.
It means how many drinks one has imbibed! Yeah!
Baud
@srv: I’m confused. Is Ted Rall a cartoonist or a cartoon?
@mistermix: I’m happy you weren’t physically hurt, but also a little worried that we had the same idea. Maybe I’m spending too much time here.
ETA: Argh! And it happened again (@here and @here.
mistermix
@Tonal Crow:
You forgot the pictures of Tunch, Lily and Rosie.
Stuck in the Funhouse
A sure sign the election season is fully on, is a mercurial dispatch from the pulse of the nation. Delivered by Flying Penus Award winner Mark “The Propeller” Halperin.
What a revelation, and impressive The Propeller has asked enough democrats to deign this surprising twoof. Water is wet, and Obama could lose. Wowee!
Drudge? that is so 1990’s. He obviously hasn’t yet tuned into today’s messengers of death to Obama. Breitbart, the dead guy, is leading the vet of the Kenyan usurper, this go around.
But he gets it right with “The Media Freak Show”. And he his emceeing it like the dutiful right wing stenographer of record. Or, should we say “Propelling” the bullshit.
gbear
@mistermix: Did you follow up by telling the pennies person that dimes are actually smaller (if you’re going in for, you know, the visual effect).
Odie Hugh Manatee
See any mimes yet? ;)
Ash Can
Then again, maybe it was DougJ fucking with us earlier.
Metrosexual Black AbeJ
@Brandon:
In complete honesty, I’m pretty earnest about this stuff, but most commenters wanted mockery, so I’m going to mock a little more than I otherwise would.
FlipYrWhig
@Baud: Yes, it turned out we were just one crudely inked cartoon short of a people’s revolution, but we didn’t notice in time, and now it’s too late.
Brian
Where at in Providence. Stay inside it looks nasty from my window on the hill.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Poopyman: According to the top diary at DK, there’s already been a sighting of someone trying to Breitbart, specifically to get a rise out of the Native American group to use against Warren.
Maude
I’m waiting until someone makes a really stupid Obama is worse than Bush statement there. I want to her the answer from the BJ members.
David Koch
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Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Stuck in the Funhouse:
Well, I give up. That’s the ball game.
IIRC it takes about 30K copies to make that list. I’d be curious to know how many copies sold in non-bulk sales
Metrosexual Black AbeJ
@Maude:
It hasn’t been like that so far. It’s not as bad as many commenters think. The first dumb thing like that I see, I’m all over it.
Baud
@Metrosexual Black AbeJ: In all seriousness, in addition to the excellent mocking, I would like to hear a straight take on your (and MM’s) impression of NN at some point.
Baud
@Metrosexual Black AbeJ: In all seriousness, in addition to the excellent mocking, I would like to hear a straight take on your (and MM’s) impression of NN at some point.
David Koch
The Khmer Rouge resurfaces to conduct purity purges and re-education camps. Good luck with that, it worked so well, before.
Did they have to sign the “loyalty oath” to progressive values in blood?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Metrosexual Black AbeJ: My recollection from last year is that WaPo or somebody went looking for signs of Dissatisfied Democrats in Disarray and couldn’t find much.
Davis X. Machina
@Odie Hugh Manatee: I saw a mime getting a wicked beat-down from a giant papier-mâche-headed puppet.
It was tragic. Why can’t we all just get along?
Baud
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
My guess is that they have always been a small number, but they are very vocal and tend to draw attention, which makes it seem like there are more of them than there are.
Of course, in a tight election, even a small number can make a big difference.
SatanicPanic
@David Koch: Wouldn’t that be the Khmer Bleu?
Metrosexual Black AbeJ
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I will do my “Dems in disarray” shtick if I find any such press people.
FlipYrWhig
@Metrosexual Black AbeJ: It only hasn’t been like that because everyone’s afraid of the drones raining hellfire from above, like Obama does to all dissidents.
FlipYrWhig
@Baud: The number of people who think Obama Isn’t liberal enough is, IIRC, something like 8-10%. And the number of those who are so disaffected that they won’t come around in November has to be way smaller than that.
David Koch
Some one has to ask Elizabeth Warren if Bradley Manninng is an innocent whistle blower who should be award the Nobel Prize.
Poopyman
@Metrosexual Black AbeJ: Best opportunity for that is at one of the keynotes.
But you guys shouldn’t miss
Just please take video!
Baud
@FlipYrWhig: The real problem with that 8-10% isn’t so much their number, but their ability to reinforce the negative and cynical messaging that conservative and mainstream media like to use when talking about Democrats.
David Koch
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FlipYrWhig
@Baud: I think so too… It becomes a way for the media to say things like “Even the liberal” Jane Hamsher / Adam Green / Robert Reich “thinks Obama is doing a bad job.”
Soonergrunt
@Baud: Don’t want to stigmatize Native-Americans. Best to use dollar bills.
David Koch
@Stuck in the Funhouse: shorter Halperin: Yesterday’s Pew and PPP polls showing Obama with a 7 and 8 pt national lead is Great News for McCain!
Amir Khalid
@David Koch:
@SatanicPanic:
It should actually be les Khmers Bleus. You know, French plurals. But English print media the world over refers to “the Khmer Rouge”, blithely disregarding the rule in French that adjectives describing plural nouns must also be plural (in this case, masculine plural).
You see, I can be an irritating grammar fussbudget in more than one language.
FlipYrWhig
@David Koch: I think that guy’s kind of a dick.
Soonergrunt
@Brandon: I have no problem with them mocking and ridiculing, and I gave $50.07.
The day we stop making fun of ourselves and mocking those who need it is the day we become conservatives.
gogol's wife
@Soonergrunt:
Amen.
Soonergrunt
@Stuck in the Funhouse: It was Halperin who proclaimed that “Drudge rules our world” in a hero-worshippy tone a few years back.
Fuck him (both of them) with baseball bat.
David Koch
BREAKING: Great News for McCain
Hot off the twitter-
PANIC!
Maude
@Metrosexual Black AbeJ:
Yesterday I read a comment at Atrios that said Obama is a mofoing turncoat. Maybe it’s the cold I have, but I was disturbed by that. It’s close to threatening.
I shall not read comments there.
Someone is going to say some stupid thing there or I want my money back.
Baud
@FlipYrWhig: Right. I’ve seen a lot of blogging ink recently spilled defending the stimulus, health care reform, and wall street reform against GOP attacks. But when these things were passed, our betters trashed them because they weren’t good enough, which had the effect of reinforcing the conservative view that these accomplishments were actually failures. Now, we’re all trying to play catch up, because it’s wholly apparent that we could lose all of it if Romney wins (assuming the Supreme Court doesn’t abuse its power before then).
Origuy
What happened to that gold-plated Soros health insurance?
Soonergrunt
@Amir Khalid: And a precious skill that is, too!
kay
@David Koch:
A lot of his Midwest numbers are really good. I don’t know why we never get to the next question, which should be “why are Romney’s so poor?”
Oh, wait. I know why. Because Romney is white, we’re never going to have that discussion, are we?
SatanicPanic
@Amir Khalid: les Khmer Bleus– works for me
Baud
@kay: Why can’t Romney close the deal with white, working-class Midwesterners?
Measles Montgomery
SAVE THE LIVER!! h/t to Julia Child
Todd
@Soonergrunt:
The US Grant is understandable. Where does the 7 cents come in?
David Koch
@Baud:
that’s the history of liberal cranks in a nutshell. They hated LBJ, now the very same people, who 45 years ago called him a “baby killer”, worship his tenure.
In 1935, they declared FDR a traitor and decided to primary him with True Progressive™ Huey Long until he was killed by his idiot henchmen. Now they long for the president who fire bombed women and children and imprisoned citizens in concentration camps.
NobodySpecial
@FlipYrWhig: Um, forgive me for pointing out that the biggest thing people use to smack disappointed Liberals around with is the fact that, y’know, Obama isn’t nearly as Liberal as he was made to be.
Complaining that now people are taking you at your word is kinda, y’know, dumb.
Soonergrunt
@Todd: At the time that John solicited for donations, I thought hey, I’m a front pager, gotta represent (yo), and so $50 is good. And then I thought, hey, I’ll add something on the end of that to see how long it takes someone to ask about it.
Omnes Omnebus asked about it like two posts down about a minute later, so that was kind of a fizzle.
kay
@Baud:
Pretty funny how the assumption must be he’ll just ride his whiteness to victory :)
If this were Obama with numbers like Romney’s we’d be on month 5 of “why do they hate him in The Heartland”
Amir Khalid
@kay:
It’s ironic in that the Republicans accuse Obama of trying to ride his blackness to re-election victory.
Anoniminous
@NobodySpecial:
Generally speaking the average American is either hard of listening or they Make Shit Up and foist it on the speaker. (An Inclusive OR with a compound antecedent, btw.) To the few of us who bothered to hear what Obama-the-Campaigner actually said Obama-the-President is no surprise.
dr. bloor
Suck it up, piker. In Providence, we call +3 “breakfast.”
Marc
@David Koch:
Blood is so non-vegan. They sign in soy!
NobodySpecial
@Anoniminous: Well, I’ve had the honor of voting for the man in not only Presidential, but Senate elections. I’ll admit that there’s at least two points on which I’m highly disappointed with how it turned out vs. what he actually said.
1) When he was in the state Senate, he’s the one who pushed for (and got) a bipartisan bill on taping interrogations because there were genuine issues of trust with Chicago cops. To see him go from that to being Mr. State Secrets, Military Tribunals, and Drone Strikes is definitely disappointing since that wasn’t his previous track record.
2) He made pretty strong statements at a time it wasn’t politically fashionable about focusing on Al-Qaeda and not being in favor of keeping troops on seemingly open-ended missions in foreign lands. It’s now more than a year since Bin Laden got himself dead and the EARLIEST we’re talking about having all the troops out of Afpak in is, what, 2014?
I won’t even mention the public option, since the BJ line is he never supported it, never pushed for it, and anyone who wanted it is some form of traitor to Democracy.
Baud
@NobodySpecial:
Actually, the BJ line is that he couldn’t get the votes for it.
kay
@Amir Khalid:
It’s the soft bigotry of low expectations. His father was the governor of Michigan. It’d be interesting to talk about that, how far Right Republicans have gone, how his father connected in that state while Romney does not, but we won’t.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@kay: I want someone to ask: Would your father have lobbied for the endorsement of Ted Nugent and Donald Trump? Would your parents have attended a fundraiser dressed up as a birthday party for Lenore chez Trump? I think the Daddy card may just make the Willardbot short-circuit before this is over.
David Koch
Must. Send. Black. Metrosexual. Abe. Lincoln. To. Reeducation. Camp.
Signed, Online Khmer Rouge
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Davis X. Machina:
People like to abuse mimes because they are usually crappy and can’t get the police to understand what happened to them.
Break the silence, stop mime abuse!
kay
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Right, and, too, on a more personal human level.
“Why was your father able to connect in a state like Michigan while you seem to struggle?”
Because it isn’t being a Mormon. We know that, and we’re told again and again that despite everything Mitt does and says he’s a moderate (secretly) so what gives?
Is it… HIM? Is he maybe sort of an entitled, arrogant asshole?
FlipYrWhig
@NobodySpecial: Yeah, I guess I’ve heard that, but that’s never been my critique — i.e., he was never all that liberal, so why are you surprised, doofus? I think he’s been able to act, in tangible terms, as liberal as his own party in Congress has allowed him to be, and that his _views_ are considerably more liberal than that.
On executive power in particular, I have a strong sense that it’s not that he believes in executive power because executive power rocks and Cheney was right and he put on the ring and got addicted, but that he’s embraced executive power because the legislature is so fucked up and unhelpful that he loves the idea of cutting them out of the loop. As a legislator, there’s no way he’d ever put up with that. I think as a Senator he’d be practically Feingold still. It’s just that as president, he wants the power to do shit, the very power he’d never allow a president to have if he weren’t president.
But I admit that it takes some reading between the lines and a lot of benefit of the doubt to get to what I just said.
Brandon
Alright, well I guess I was wrong. Mock away. It’s just that in this case, where people, no matter how misguided, are trying to organize something truly grassroots, I find it a bit cruel just to show up and pull a Nelson Muntz. What incentive do people have to get out into the public sphere if folks ridicule them? Which is probably why Progressives wonks are so dull and boring, they cannot even give away an inch or sincerity or they’ll get slaughtered, from friend and foe.
@Quicksand: I can guarantee you one thing, it may not be jailbroken yet, but it will be. Just give it time.