Why is Tod Kelly infatuated with Balloon Juice? Does he understand there is no editorial stance here?
Or are we now to he point where blogs comment on the MSM, and other blogs comment on the blog commentary of blogs commenting on the MSM.
Or did DougJ just troll him at one point and really piss him off?
Bnut
He comes for the Tunch pics, he just can’t admit it.
Hill Dweller
For what it’s worth, I’ve never heard of him.
JenJen
I’m going with Option 3: DougJ. And I’m totally fine with that.
Alexandra
“There is only one thing in life worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about.”
— Oscar Wilde
Yutsano
@Bnut: I think the dude is trolling us too, since the name of the mayor of Newark is a FYWP term. Everyone must submit to the Tunchness sooner or later.
David Koch
Doesn’t he know Obama had Broder killed?
Schlemizel
What, are you so tired of punching that useless sack of shit Sully that you now are going to punch the leak of odoriferous general bums for some variation?
There may be a point to reading SUlly (I don’t agree but I get that you do) but seriously? Those guys are not worth the energy it takes to click a mouse to get there.
gbear
Spelling Tod with only one ‘d’ is so gay.
Snowwy
Yet another moronic centrist. Set ridicule rays to maximum power. Weapons free.
Mark S.
Why do people hate Brooks and Broder? This guy’s answer:
Wow, that isn’t even in the right galaxy. People hated Broder because, at least in the last decade of his life, he became a lazy hack whose solution to everything was bipartisanship. People hate Bobo because he’s an intellectual poser who barely understands any of the history or social sciences he liberally sprinkles in his columns.
eemom
You made me click on that shit. Prepare to die.
Roger Moore
@Mark S.:
Lazy hack fails to recognize that people hate lazy hacks. Film at 11.
jl
He overlooked all that BJ love for Friedman. How could that be?
For the record, I have complemented one or two Brooks columns, and ever the foolish optimist, opined that perhaps the man would reform himself.
Yeah, right.
Brooks makes stuff up and misleads people.
When Issenberg’s piece of real reporting, with actual research and facts and stuff, is no longer an accurate description of how Brooks works, I will reconsider.
Boo-Boos in Paradise
http://www.phillymag.com/articles/booboos-in-paradise
Edit: I corrected the name. It looked funny so I googled it and found out that Issenberg is a guy. Funny I though it was a she. Oh well, takes some of the drama out of the epic mano a mano between Issenberg and Brooks.
kuvasz
My dog is smarter than Mr. Kelly.
suzanne
I think, when Tod used the word “incorrctly”, he actually meant “correctly”.
Dumbass.
Tod Kelly
I think you misunderstand me if you think someone pissed me off. You were closer with the “infatuation.” Next to the League and TNC this is my favorite blog.
You, John, are actually one of my favorite bloggers. I don’t know that many political-cultural bloggers that write as much about themselves as human beings as you do. And I think Tom Levenson is the only blogger I don’t actually know that I’ve ever taken the time to write to to tell him how great one of his posts was.
As for the posts you tagged, the line about you in the Brooks was a joke. The line in the other one wasn’t meant to be pissy – well, no that’s a lie. It *was* meant to be pissy, it was just meant to be pissy about Ed Schultz, not you. I like the inside jokes here. The lexicon is awesome, and if anything makes me jealous.
Not that this is going to stop the hate mail from coming my way, but just so’s ya know.
The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik
@Mark S.:
It wasn’t even the fact that Broder was a fan of chronic bipartisanship. It was the fact that he was a fan of chronic bipartisanship of the Mourdock-kind: the idea that generally it was Dems who must always compromise themselves to meet Republicans, but rarely the reverse.
Allan
I just hocked up a LOOGie. And it was more interesting than Tod Kelly.
John Cole
@Tod Kelly: Very cool. Glad you commented here. I was just reacting to disparate posts that seemed to make it seem you hated us.
freelancer
Not true. I think the editorial stance exists.
Balloon Juice. Fuck you! I’m thinking. (with Pets).
jl
@Tod Kelly: What the heck. Another snarky blog thing that went over my head.
I’ll get some sleep and read over this tomorrow and see if I can figure it out.
But I do believe BJ is an equal opportunity big tent snark and snipe kind of place.
gbear
@John Cole: So does Tod get added to the blogroll now?
middlewest
Oh boy, another nerdy white guy who knows how the world REALLY works. Just what we needed.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
What a clown. He’s really defensive, obtuse and unfunny. I don’t know why he blogs.
Tod Kelly
@John Cole:
Naw, the opposite. The thought of this will freeze your heart, I’m sure, but I’m always thinking if you could somehow cross breed the best things about BJ and the League you’d get some kind of monster Super Blog that would be the Blog to Rule Them All.
Tod Kelly
@middlewest:
Oh, not just a nerdy white guy. A pasty nerdy white guy.
Joey Maloney
@Alexandra: “Your Majesty is like a stream of bat’s piss! …It was one of Wilde’s.”
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@Tod Kelly: Nah. It would just make half the posts here incredibly boring and stupid. Plus it would waste valuable screen real estate that’s currently occupied by kittens. No thanks.
ETA: Not to mention that the opinions of white men are already over-represented as it is. You’re seriously overestimating the value you add to the discourse.
bend
@Tod Kelly: Paging Forbes…
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@bend: hehe. +1
suzanne
@danah gaz (fka gaz):
Ain’t that the gospel truth.
karen marie
I wouldn’t “happily grant two terms to Mitt Romney,” but if it took Romney being president to shut David F_cking Brooks up, I would definitely consider it something of a consolation prize.
I
He apparently doesn’t read the commentary, he just notes its existence.
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@karen marie: The guy is so obtuse that he should be on medication for it. You should see him in the comments at his own site. Or better yet, don’t.
He’s a * headdesk * with a pulse.
karen marie
@gbear: No.
Villago Delenda Est
Do not dis (or taunt) the pasty nerdy white guys.
The only reason I’m pasty is I avoid being in the sun due to having FANTASTIC tans earlier on before we all found out it was bad for you.
And yes, we DO know everything. For example. Han shot first.
karen marie
@Tod Kelly: You make that sound like you think it’s a good thing. Contrary to what some might believe, bigger is not necessarily better.
Plus, reading the kind of ignorance you displayed in the linked examples makes my eyes bleed.
eemom
@gbear:
Front pager in 5…4….3….
Librarian
: “There is only one thing worse than playing squash together, and that is playing it by yourself.” -Oscar Wilde
piratedan
dammit, I didn’t even get to offer some knee jerk snarky response in defense of our blog host and I read the damn thread and you guys are already doing the mutual admiration society dance routine. Next time I’ll just have to stop reading the comments but that’s like eating an oreo for the outside cookie if you know what I mean.
piratedan
@Villago Delenda Est: he was PROVOKED! intelligence reported evidence of yellow cake uranium in Greedo’s shoes, damning evidence that he was living in a mobile tractor trailer where nuclear or chemical weapons were being developed for the Hutts to control the pod racing franchise and we all know that would stand as a direct threat to NASCAR and the AMERCIAN WAY OF LIFE!
Riilism
The reasons for my own seething hatred for all Brooks/Broder-like substances have been given voice here by FP’s and commenters alike ad infinitum…
Mr. Kelly really needs to start paying attention. Then he may begin understand why these two represent the very worst aspects of our vapid and almost entirely meritless pundocracy….
danah gaz (fka gaz)
@Riilism: “Mr. Kelly really needs to start paying attention.”
He either does not want to, or he is congenitally incapable. That much is clear from reading the comments over at his post on The League of Extraordinary Failures blog.
Riilism
@danah gaz (fka gaz): Instead of reading the comments on his own post (I couldn’t make myself read very far into them), he should simply read everything that Charles Pierce has ever written wrt our lovely Mr. Brooks…
Joey Maloney
@Librarian: “Your Majesty is like a dose of clap: Before you arrive there’s pleasure, but after it’s a pain in the dong!”
JGabriel
Tod Kelly @ LoOG:
Actually, Cole, I think he likes us.
Tod Kelly:
Oh. Just you then. No one ever thinks of us lowly commenters. (Sniff.)
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HEY YOU
I liked the Left-Right Political Spectrum.
All the Nazis that don’t like what’s happening in this country can move to England & worship the Queen.
jl@13,
I going to change one of your sentences: The Guberment makes up stuff & misleads people.
JGabriel
@HEY YOU:
Even better, let’s send them to Iran or Saudia Arabia, where their heads will explode from dealing with the cognitive dissonance of discovering they fit right in.
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bago
@danah gaz (fka gaz): When Tunch Occupies the front page, he Occupies the front page. #OFP
Maude
@bago:
He’s floofy.
Maude
Has this guy read this place late at night when most of the commenters are + 9? We don’t have any vision, never mind common.
mapaghimagsik
While Tod might like this blog, I didn’t find the blog post John referenced very interesting. The proposal of something “bigger” really meant “closer to mediocrity”
LosGatosCA
The criticism of Broder, Brooks, and Friedman is pretty simple. They have been/are paid to have ‘informed’ opinions about political topics and governance while their columns show them to be completely uninformed about how the basic change in the Republican party is to work in a parliamentary style within a system that is inconsistent with that approach. Tom DeLay and Paul Krugman completely understand how the changes have occurred, the former because he designed and implemented them and the latter because he’s simply observant and logical.
The policy issues given as examples (Iraq, tax cuts, etc) are tilted one way that’s true but it doesn’t excuse the fact that these people and their publishers are/have been frauds in passing off their opinions as more informed than the person sitting next to you at the bar at 4am who has been hitting on the obese waitress with the Mike Tyson facial tattoo.
Schlemizel
@gbear:
Yeah I thought the same thing. At least he pretends to interact in comments from the start unlike that noisy shit spreader he brought here before.
He won’t have a good time though if he keeps it up. The ugly truth of the manure factory that Broder and Brooks and their ilk represent will not go unchallenged here. But maybe he can leverage BJ to an undeserved paying gig in service of out masters, its not original any more but it works.
dino
From Mr. Kelly’s live blogging of a random night of Fox News/MSNBC:
http://ordinary-gentlemen.com/blog/2012/06/04/the-fox-news-msnbc-taste-test-a-non-scientific-tape-delayed-live-blogged-inquiry/
“There is also a lot of talk about how the Republicans have spent the past three years trying to compromise with Obama, but he refuses to talk to them. This just goes to show how much the Lame Stream Media hides the truth. Here I had been thinking the GOP was being fairly obstructionist, what with them saying all the time that’s what they were doing. Thankfully Greta and Bernard are here to set me straight and now I know the insider truth, which based on what they’re saying I think looks like this: Every night the GOP leadership walks over and stands on the White House lawn. They throw tiny pebbles at the windows, whispering for Obama to come out and talk to them but also trying hard not to wake Michelle up. All they want to do is sit down and give away half their demands in the spirit of compromise. Instead, dogs are released on them as Obama stands on the balcony, laughing maniacally. Disappointed, they all slowly walk home taking tiny, tiny steps, their shoulders sagging, too sad to speak to one another. They eventually arrive at their respective homes, each alone, each microwaving a hot pocket to eat in the dark as they sit and stare into space.”
That is pretty balloon juicy to me.
grandpa john
@Mark S.: @Mark S.:
They also hate him because he constantly makes up shit and bald face lies while wearing his mild mannered “Clark Kent”
persona, there is nothing centerist or moderate about him once you read a flew of his poo flingings
Donut
Perusing just the posts John linked, I can see that Tod seems to think using the word “fish” instead of “fuck” is somehow appropriate use of the English language.
Hey Tod, which of these works to get my point across:
“I cannot fucking understand people who do that kind off fucking uptight, corncob-up-the-ass bullshit with their writing. I can’t take that shit seriously.”
“I cannot fishing understand people who do that kind off fishing uptight, corncob-up-the-rectum bullpoop with their writing. I can’t take that poop seriously.”
grandpa john
@Riilism: This, the problem with Brooks is that he not only lies to his readers about facts, but about himself. He all ways begins by portraying himself as a centerist or moderate when in truth by the end of his articles it is apparent that he is as extreme right as the rest of the village people. He doesn’t seem to have the integrity or fortitude to actually be himself.
Soonergrunt
@danah gaz (fka gaz): “It would just make half the posts here incredibly boring and stupid.”
That’s my corner of the blog, so I must insist that we decline this offer.
Elizabelle
I found Tod’s recounting of the Maddow show episode refreshing and honest.
Judas Escargot, Your Postmodern Neighbor
…WTF does this even mean?
pragmatism
A post at LOOG sez that BJ is in th top 2 sites (with sully) for clickthriughs to their site. Also, too, “you must be from balloon juice” is a common way to mock posts over there.
pragmatism
Fywp click throughs.
Julia Grey
I wouldn’t say that, even ironically. Too easily misunderstood.
But I will point out that “Tod” means “Death” in German.
b-psycho
@Donut: It started as a nod to people accessing the site from work despite restrictions on their access. It’s inconsistent though, sometimes they give a fish, sometimes they don’t give a fuck.
I understand the reason, but c’mon, if you can get in trouble for reading any web content containing the word Fuck, then your boss is a fucking dickhead piece of fucking shit.