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England v Sweden Open Thread

by Randinho|  June 15, 20122:45 pm| 48 Comments

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  1. 1.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    Sverige.

  2. 2.

    handsmile

    June 15, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    Which hulking be-ponytailed striker will be dominant today?

    After its loss to Ukraine, the Swedish coach Erik Hamren berated his players as “cowards,” and Captain Zlatan was reported to be furious with his teammates for their lackadaisical play. Not the customary headlines from that pacific nation.

    No less uncharacteristic is the quiet and harmony issuing from the English camp. Who knew that Frank Lampard was such a troublemaker!

    A draw is not in the best interests of either team, though of course with a loss, Sweden joins the Irish in the early departure lounge.

    As disclosed previously, I will be watching this match in my Swedish national team jersey.

  3. 3.

    Maude

    June 15, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    The president was heckled by a reporter twice today.
    Obama answered the first time and the second time he said in effect that he wasn’t there to argue.

  4. 4.

    Linnaeus

    June 15, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    No particular loyalties in this game, although my great-grandfather played football as a young man in England, so I guess I lean toward England here.

  5. 5.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    @Maude:
    I wouldn’t worry about Obama, and I doubt any commenter here would either. But as a former journalist, I feel very strongly about this: heckling a speech, disrupting an event you’re supposed to be covering, should be a firing offense for a reporter. Then again, given that it was the Daily Caller he works for, I doubt anything like that is going to happen.

  6. 6.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Personally no dog in this one, but I’d love for Ibra to do a Sheva.

  7. 7.

    MikeJ

    June 15, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    Engerland! Engerland!

  8. 8.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    So, did Carrol just earn the first of his £35 Million?

  9. 9.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Wow

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    Liverpool 1 Germany nil.

  11. 11.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    John T going for the ball(s).

  12. 12.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    Idiot. That should be

    Liverpool 1 Sweden nil.

  13. 13.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    @Amir Khalid:
    Well, in the spirit of handsmile’s question at #2 it probably should be

    Liverpool 1 Milan 0

  14. 14.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    June 15, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    What the hell is up with England wearing those navy blue kits? Surely they could merchandise a different take on red and white just as well.

  15. 15.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Strictly speaking an own goal.

  16. 16.

    MikeJ

    June 15, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    That’s the England I know.

  17. 17.

    burnspbesq

    June 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    The blue unis are for Andy Carroll. “Blue” doesn’t rhyme with “row zed.”

  18. 18.

    MikeJ

    June 15, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    It’s like cheering for PG Tips. Five minutes in the cup.

  19. 19.

    Onkel Fritze

    June 15, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Just been reading up on the statistics: England have never won against Sweden in a tournament; they haven’t won in 44 years.

    And now….2:1

  20. 20.

    burnspbesq

    June 15, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Hart has to go get that.

  21. 21.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    England, it works better if you have your defenders between your opponents and the goal.

  22. 22.

    Face

    June 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    Sweden quite cocksure

  23. 23.

    curiousleo

    June 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    @burnspbesq: The English defense has to mark Olaf there. How is he completely unmarked?

  24. 24.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    And Sweden come from behind to take the lead. I said from the beginning that England would find a way to raise fans’ expectations and then dash them. See? See?

  25. 25.

    Randinho

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    The beard is beating the ponytail

  26. 26.

    Yurpean

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Get in there!

  27. 27.

    Paula

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Who the bleedin’ fuck is this Olaf person?

    In related topics, how the fuck do FIFA rank Blighty in the top 10 permanently? Is the whole “we codified football” thing constantly grandfathered in?

  28. 28.

    MikeJ

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    Ok, we have an actual game now.

  29. 29.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    What a cracker!

  30. 30.

    Onkel Fritze

    June 15, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Excellent goalkeeping.

  31. 31.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Atrocious goal keeping at both ends this.

  32. 32.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 4:24 pm

    Goalapolooza

  33. 33.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    There’s no way this game ends two all. Nerves are all over the place here.

  34. 34.

    Leeds man

    June 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Wrong week to quit smoking, and drinking.

  35. 35.

    burnspbesq

    June 15, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @curiousleo:

    Not disagreeing, but Hart has the play in front of him and should be able to see that Mellberg is unmarked. American keepers are trained to go in that situation. Timmeh would have gone and gotten it off Mellberg’s head. Worst case, you give up a PK.

  36. 36.

    Onkel Fritze

    June 15, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    @Leeds man: Wrong week to quit sniffing glue

  37. 37.

    curiousleo

    June 15, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    @burnspbesq: Timmeh wouldn’t have taken that silly shuffle left to then be out of position for the reaction save/dive to the right. I don’t disagree that Hart could have done better. But that’s not the first or even 2nd miscue that resulted in a goal.

    Even b/f Hart was needed, the English defense should have done MUCH better. It was a ridiculous slide by Milner that gave the free kick. And then to leave Mellberg *completely* open?

  38. 38.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    In keeping with my pre-tournament prediction for England, I expect Sweden to score a winner just as the ref is about to blow for full-time.

  39. 39.

    curiousleo

    June 15, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    And now it’s 3-2 England.

  40. 40.

    SRW1

    June 15, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    That goal’s gonna be in the tournament top 5.

  41. 41.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    June 15, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    Goddammit! I have to go to work.

    Why can’t Welbeck finish like that for Utd?

  42. 42.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 4:38 pm

    @curiousleo:
    Curses! Foiled again!

  43. 43.

    Leeds man

    June 15, 2012 at 4:56 pm

    I will never diss Theo Walcott again. Until next season.

  44. 44.

    otmar

    June 15, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    I haven’t seen the first games of this group, but based on what I saw today:

    How in god’s name did Sweden manage to lose vs. the Ukraine?

  45. 45.

    pete

    June 15, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    In light of the political news, I had to enjoy the US commentators saying “England is DREAMing.”

    Ukraine could be tough, and England needs something out of that game, right? I mean, other than Rooney not getting sent off.

  46. 46.

    WindyCityCat

    June 15, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    The match tonight was fantastic. My seats were right next to the English section, and now i’m at a pub in Kiev celebrating the England victory. Good times all around.

  47. 47.

    Randy Paul

    June 15, 2012 at 10:31 pm

    @pete: All England need is a point.

  48. 48.

    handsmile

    June 16, 2012 at 12:23 am

    As one rooting for Sweden, I must say this was a thoroughly deserved defeat. Allowing in two goals in less than 20 minutes after taking the lead is simply unacceptable for a squad of such seasoned veterans. Midfielder Kim Kallstrom, in particular, with 94 caps to his name was atrocious.

    After the success enjoyed and offensive flair revealed in friendly matches since spring, it was all the more puzzling and dispiriting to witness Sweden’s erratic and anxious play in this tournament. Following Mellberg’s goal when England should have been on the back foot, it deteriorated to the primitive: simply hoofing the ball forward. With such ponderous play and a defensive corps known to lumber, Sweden risks embarrassment in its final match against France. Zlatan may well look into dual citizenship options before the 2014 World Cup.

    And England, while appearing decidedly average in both matches, looks to advance with a draw against Ukraine (current goal differential makes that a reasonable option). Much credit must be given to Danny Wellbeck for his delightfully inventive goal today and to Ashley Young whose pace and wiles unnerved Swedish defenders throughout the match. Perhaps it was canny after all to discount English prospects at Euro2012.

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