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Give ’em enough rope

by DougJ|  June 15, 20123:10 pm| 156 Comments

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More of this, wingers. Here’s some crazy motherfucker from around the way, a Daily Caller “reporter”, getting all “you lie” on Obama.

Fucking TPM shit won’t embed anymore so here.

The economy sucks and we’ll get outspent by the Galtians. We need to make as much winger freakoutaid between now and November as we can.

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  1. 1.

    handsmile

    June 15, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Just how long until one of them throws a shoe? The desperation of these bastards is just staggering.

    And cue the Village media to defend their brave colleague.

  2. 2.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    So let’s see, the Romney bus heckled Obama supporters in Cleveland yesterday and the Romney-supporting Neil Munro heckled Obama in the Rose Garden today. But we’re supposed to be civil and respectful to these assholes because why exactly?

  3. 3.

    Maude

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    The heckle is all over the internets.
    Wow, that guy made a boo boo. The support is for the prez.
    TPM is officious now.

  4. 4.

    curiousleo

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    @handsmile: Are they really defending him for this crap?

  5. 5.

    shortstop

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    The level of disrespect is absolutely staggering. And the Daily Caller congratulates Munro on Twitter…with a comma splice to boot.

    ETA: Without having read any other winger discussion of this event, I know damned well they’re going to conflate “challenging the president/asking the president questions” with “interrupting the president several times in the middle of his statement.” Because, you know, there’s no difference between the two.

  6. 6.

    Culture of Truth

    June 15, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Both sides do it.

  7. 7.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    I really cannot understand how these people think this is ok? From the Romney honkies to this Daily Caller heckler, WTF?

    Also too. Are they going to blame Obama as they always do? He drives them crazy so it’s his fault? Like the NYT Edit. this am who actually calls out Mitt Romney on it but blames Obama for not making the media call Romney a liar? I mean, isn’t that their job? Obama has to make them do that too?

  8. 8.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    June 15, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    I don’t get the aggression.

    Aren’t they (from their point of view, anyway), winning?

  9. 9.

    bemused

    June 15, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Munro will probably get a sweet raise and multiple job offers.

    Anyone reporting what exactly this ass was yelling?

  10. 10.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    Consider the source: He works for Tucker Carlson, a professional over-grown spoiled brat who has been fired by every cable network in existence. The mystery is why any of them ever hired him

  11. 11.

    curiousleo

    June 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Is there a pool for the day they call Obama a n—– on tape? Because we’re getting closer and Mr. Google Problem’s nclang doesn’t count for winning the pool ;)

  12. 12.

    Hill Dweller

    June 15, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    The twitter machine tells me CNN brought on Joe Arpaio to discuss Obama’s announcement…

    Can you imagine the shit storm if Dems had done to Bush what wingnuts have been doing since Obama took office?

    I’m really starting to despise the press in this county. If they had an ounce of courage and/or integrity, the republican party would have been publicly humiliated long ago.

  13. 13.

    Culture of Truth

    June 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    “Obama Yells at Immigrant: Film at 11”

  14. 14.

    Maude

    June 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @Valdivia:
    Maybe they left their pacifiers at home.
    Infantile and it need to made unacceptable.

  15. 15.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @handsmile:

    And cue the Village media to defend their brave colleague.

    Not even a Villager. Chris Hayes:

    What would the Daily Caller say if a Nation reporter did this to an R Pres. I’m sure they’d stand w/ their colleagues, of course.

    Just kill me now.

  16. 16.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @handsmile:

    Sister networks represent!

  17. 17.

    4tehlulz

    June 15, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    If this keeps up, this is going to end very, very badly.

  18. 18.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    I can’t get the video to play at all.

  19. 19.

    Trentrunner

    June 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Munro said that “foreign workers” would take American jobs under this policy shift.

    Keep erupting, wingnuts.

  20. 20.

    Culture of Truth

    June 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    Yet again Obama has failed to unify the country.

  21. 21.

    Trentrunner

    June 15, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    @Southern Beale: I think you’re missing Hayes’ sarcasm.

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    The twitter machine tells me CNN brought on Joe Arpaio to discuss Obama’s announcement…

    and those imbeciles a) think they’re the guardians of journalistic integrity and b) really can’t understand why their ratings are in the toilet

  23. 23.

    Eric k

    June 15, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    Souther Beale,

    I think your missing the sarcasm in Hayes comment.

  24. 24.

    Culture of Truth

    June 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    you read that as Hayes defending Munro?

  25. 25.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known As Kryptik

    June 15, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I…think your sarcasm meter went and busted on that tweet.

  26. 26.

    BGinCHI

    June 15, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    The summer officially starts today. This is how they are going to play it.

    Can’t wait to see how the media enable the GOP out of fear and laziness.

  27. 27.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @Maude:

    It’s what they are but how is it supposed to be strength to act like a child. If they are winning they sure don’t act like it.

  28. 28.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @4tehlulz:

    please don’t even mention it.

  29. 29.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I think that was snark on Chris’s part.

    ETA – see everyone else beat me to it.

  30. 30.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    OK, got it in another browser.

    Man, how I wish Obama had said something like:

    There’s a passage I got memorized. Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of the darkness. For he is truly his brother’s keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you.” I been sayin’ that shit for years. And if you ever heard it, it meant your ass. I never really questioned what it meant. I thought it was just a cold-blooded thing to say to a motherfucker before you popped a cap in his ass. But I saw some shit this mornin’ made me think twice. Now I’m thinkin’: it could mean you’re the evil man. And I’m the righteous man. And Mr. Secret Service Agent here, he’s the shepherd protecting my righteous ass in the valley of darkness. Or it could be you’re the righteous man and I’m the shepherd and it’s the world that’s evil and selfish. I’d like that. But that shit ain’t the truth. The truth is you’re the weak. And I’m the tyranny of evil men. But I’m tryin, Ringo. I’m tryin’ real hard to be the shepherd.

  31. 31.

    Trentrunner

    June 15, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Both Joe Wilson and Neil Munro really really love the interrupting cow knock-knock joke.

  32. 32.

    Todd

    June 15, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Sadly, nobody in a position of authority took a baseball bat to the Blogger’s head, which proves that Obama isn’t running a tyrrany.

    I gotta say, I’d pay money to watch a wingnut receive a deserved beat down.

  33. 33.

    Bruce S

    June 15, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Tucker Carlson is a rancid little shit – Brietbart Lite!

    The rightwing media isn’t a news operation, it’s a hard-right activist propaganda machine that’s targeting the President. The notion that these wackos have the audacity to bitch about Obama having done community organizing under the broad umbrella of “Saul Alinsky”, while adopting for themselves – with benefit of press credentials in this case – disruption and strident advocacy is beyond irony or idiocy. Tucker and his crew are cretins. And whiners who can’t stand being called out for what they are when they play the part of hecklers during a Presidential speech.

    I hate these people. And I hate that these miserable little dipshits occupy enough of my brain to even engender my hatred.

  34. 34.

    biff diggerence

    June 15, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    I’d settle for Tucker Carlson in traction.

  35. 35.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    Reposted from earlier thread:

    I wouldn’t worry about Obama, and I doubt any commenter here would either. But as a former journalist, I feel very strongly about this: heckling a speech, disrupting an event you’re supposed to be covering, should be a firing offense for a reporter. Then again, given that it was the Daily Caller he works for, I doubt anything like that is going to happen.

    I am amazed that anyone on the right thinks these juvenile stunts are winning anyone over to their side.

  36. 36.

    quannlace

    June 15, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    What would the Daily Caller say if a Nation reporter did this to an R Pres

    Well seeing as Romney is doing all he can to avoid reporters and improptu questions, we may never know.

  37. 37.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 15, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    What exactly did this guy shout? I listened, once, to the TPM video but couldn’t really make it out.

  38. 38.

    Bruce S

    June 15, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    I’m sure someone else has pointed this out. But that was sarcasm.

  39. 39.

    TG Chicago

    June 15, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    OT: Here’s a shocker. Sullivan is being stupid:

    I agree with Dana that Obama made a huge error in not immediately grasping the Bowles-Simpson commission as his own. I said so at the time. I believe so today. The reason he has given for this bad decision is that private negotiation was better than taking a public stance that would immediately make compromise impossible. If Obama had endorsed Simpson-Bowles, the GOP would have denounced it. But that would simply have given Obama a clear and brutal chance to call the GOP out on their phony fiscal policy.

    Okay, so Sullivan thinks Obama should have done something different in order to have the opportunity to call the GOP phonies. Fair enough. But wait! What’s Sully’s very next sentence?

    And when push really came to shove, he put politics above “Yes We Can”.

    Uhh, no. Obama didn’t embrace the BS plan because he wanted to actually get something done in private. What Sullivan wanted was to put politics above policy (Call them phony! Be brutal!), but yet he still wants to claim it’s Obama that played politics.

    Would ol’ Sully’s preferred line of action have resulted in any different policy results? Of course not. He doesn’t even pretend it would have.

    What a maroon.

  40. 40.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    @Cris (without an H): “Why are you giving jobs to foreigners instead of Americans?” and something about being a “cold war groom”, I think.

  41. 41.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    As I mentioned in the other thread, I suppose any minute now we can expect a flurry of tweets from Jake Tapper defending the Daily Caller as a legitimate news organization.

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Wait a minute… what the hell is a “cold war groom”?

  42. 42.

    Brachiator

    June 15, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Local talk show radio host Bill Carroll (KFI) is making a big deal over the reporter who tried to interrupt the speech with “what are you going to do about the foreigners who are taking jobs from American workers?”

    Carroll also said that the US military should not allow illegal immigrant children to join. To hell with defending the country.

    Carroll, by the was was born in Scotland and raised in Canada. He used to be the host on various Canadian media stations. I suppose, but don’t know for sure, whether he is an American citizen. But even though he has been here for a few years, he doesn’t have much knowledge of California or national politics, aside from a generic conservative rant.

  43. 43.

    Joseph Nobles

    June 15, 2012 at 3:33 pm

    Munro claims he just mistimed the ending of Obama’s speech. Twice. Loudly. And Tucker says Sam Donaldson heckled Reagan so karma.

  44. 44.

    Maude

    June 15, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    @Valdivia:
    I don’t understand it except it gets them attention.

  45. 45.

    karen

    June 15, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    @bemused:

    The Daily Caller already said they’re “proud” of the reporter.

  46. 46.

    rlrr

    June 15, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    @Joseph Nobles:

    And Tucker says Sam Donaldson heckled Reagan so karma.

    Asking difficult questions is not the same thing as heckling…

  47. 47.

    TooManyJens

    June 15, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    I am amazed that anyone on the right thinks these juvenile stunts are winning anyone over to their side.

    I don’t think the right’s tried seriously to win anyone over in a long time. To win someone over, you have to treat them with some kind of respect — enough to at least listen to their concerns and convince them that your policies are the best ones to address those concerns.

    The right doesn’t have any respect for anyone who isn’t in their narrow class of Real Americans. They see the rest of us as traitors and disease. No, all they have is firing up the base (who love this sort of shit), and suppressing the votes of the enemy.

  48. 48.

    Wendy

    June 15, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @Hill Dweller: Sadly, I thought this was a joke. Sigh.

  49. 49.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    June 15, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @Trentrunner:

    I think you’re missing Hayes’ sarcasm.

    Agreed, I read that as sarcasm.

  50. 50.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 15, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    @Todd: I gotta say, I’d pay money to watch a wingnut receive a deserved beat down.

    Nah. I’d just like to see a crowd point at his penis and laugh.

  51. 51.

    bemused

    June 15, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    The Romney campaign must think heckling and honking is great for exciting the bully loving base, the 27 percent crazy. I notice Romney makes no attempt to tamp that down, at least publicly. People like Munro are beefing up their rightwing resumes. My thought is how low can they go before it turns off many of those not the hard core 27 percent of Republicans or is there anything so embarrassing or shameful Republicans can do that would be unacceptable?

  52. 52.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Aaaand the liberal media jumps in, full appeasement mode. Of course.

  53. 53.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 15, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    Okay, what Michigan legislator changed the spam filter to trip me into moderation for referring to male genitalia?

  54. 54.

    Mike Lamb

    June 15, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    @Southern Beale: 6 people point out that Hayes was being sarcastic, and you double down by linking to your blog about it?

  55. 55.

    bemused

    June 15, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    @karen:

    That is entirely unsurprising..

  56. 56.

    Trinity

    June 15, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    @Southern Beale: Um…I’m pretty sure that is sarcasm.

  57. 57.

    japa21

    June 15, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    As I review this incident, which though disgraceful, I hardly find shocking in today’s climate, I am reminded of a Bush presser. Some reporter, not one of the mainUS media, started asking a question of Bush by sayin g”Sir”. Bush immediately stopped him and said “Do you know who I am?” The reporter, properly chastened, restarted his question with “Mr. President.” When someone on some blog questioned that episode as Bush being arrogant, the RW talked all about how using the word “sir” was being disrespectful.
    Yet those same RW folks are probably currently applauding this jerk.

  58. 58.

    Trentrunner

    June 15, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    It’s probably a good time to notice that what Obama did today will

    1) Shore up and motivate Latino voters

    2) Make the wingnuts flash their true racist colors for at least a few days

    3) Force Romney to ignore (that’s what he’s done today so far) immigration as an issue, since Obama’s now pre-empted the Rubio plan.

    Brilliant fucking politics, and good policy. Oh, and everyone gets reminded that Tucker Carlson is the douchiest of douches.

    win-win-win

  59. 59.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 15, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    I found a video of the presidential statement and watched the whole thing.

    Very nice statement, actually.

    And yes, I believe the Prez was a bit pissed.

  60. 60.

    Brachiator

    June 15, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @Trentrunner:

    Force Romney to ignore (that’s what he’s done today so far) immigration as an issue, since Obama’s now pre-empted the Rubio plan.

    Agree with you on this. I wonder

    a)What Romney will say about this.

    b)If Romney tries to keep silent, whether any reporters will press him on a response.

    c)How soon Romney will disavow any statement he makes on this issue.

  61. 61.

    gbear

    June 15, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @Trentrunner: I count four wins there.

  62. 62.

    handsmile

    June 15, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    And in our innocence we wondered how Rmoney and the GOP would respond to the President’s immigration initiative.

    This incident will now dominate today’s news cycle, the details of this mini-Dream Act will be overshadowed and obscured, and time is bought for Republican scum to develop talking points against the policy. And best of all, a new round begins of one of the Village media’s favorite pastimes: “Why does President Obama have such a hostile relationship with the press?”

    As always, it’s WIN WIN WIN IYAR!!

    ETA: Trentrunner: Sadly (and strangely simultaneously) I see a different set of wins here, at least in the short term. And for the Village media, it’s always about the short term.

  63. 63.

    Joseph Nobles

    June 15, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @JenJen: Jake has already tweeted he’s in Mexico, suckas, and he’ll see us at the G20.

    The other WH press corps reporters are very loudly denying Munro’s “about to wrap up” story. I’ve seen very little defense at all from any pro journalism source. I’ve not checked out the Breits, of course.

  64. 64.

    Napoleon

    June 15, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    God do you have your head up your ass.

  65. 65.

    andrewsomething

    June 15, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    Maybe you and David Atkins can start a reading group together?

  66. 66.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    Now might be a good time to replay that time Jon Stewart gave Fucker Carlson a sad.

  67. 67.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    June 15, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Southern Beale: I think what your missing is that we’re talking about the Daily Caller. They would publish the reporters address, tell how much the countertops cost, and the route the reporter takes his kids to school.

    Hayes was being sarcastic.

  68. 68.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    The much bigger issue is Obama didn’t mention the public option, once! Not once!

  69. 69.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Joseph Nobles:

    He wouldn’t be denying he interrupted the President deliberately if he thought it was going well.

    Which leaves a question.

    Why was the Daily Caller “proud” of a reporter who (now) says he made a mistake?

  70. 70.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    Hayes was being sarcastic.

    I’m not sure that he was but even so, he’s not the only one. Chekk out Mike Elk’s Twitter feed. Labor reporter for In These Times.

  71. 71.

    David in NY

    June 15, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Southern Beale seems to have lost the thread, so to speak.

    ETA: Look, it looks like sarcasm, it sounds like sarcasm, and everybody here thinks it was sarcasm. “[N]ot sure” is not a tenable position.

    And what somebody else said is not evidence of what Hayes meant. You’re a little short on both reading skill and sense of logical relevance today, which, I must confess, is not your usual mode.

  72. 72.

    Poopyman

    June 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @kay: Why, because it takes a big man to admit he made a mistake.
    (/snark)

    By the way, has he made an apology to The President and/or his colleagues in the press? I ain’t holding my breath.

  73. 73.

    Niques

    June 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @Bruce S: I hate these people. And I hate that these miserable little dipshits occupy enough of my brain to even engender my hatred.

    Wow. This.

  74. 74.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    It’s worse than “you lie” because at least there the heckler was a US Rep, so an actor in government instead of (supposedly) an observer of actors and events.

    Someone needs to tell reporters they are not supposed to be the story.

    That’s not their job. It’s not even in the same universe as “their job.” They’re so far out in front I’m not sure they can get back without a map.

  75. 75.

    Maude

    June 15, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @kay:
    In a couple of hours the Daily Caller will be saying they weren’t really proud of him.

  76. 76.

    Shinobi

    June 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    That painting Obama has outside his office seems more appropriate every day.

  77. 77.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    Oh, Mike Elk. Wait, who is he?

  78. 78.

    Joseph Nobles

    June 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @rlrr: I think he’s talking about Donaldson shouting questions at Reagan across the lawn as he was getting into Marine One.

    @kay: Yeah, their response to this is all over the place.

    We’re proud, of Neil Munro, but he mistimed and he would never, and anyway, Obama turned his back on all the reporters, and then Sam Donaldson, but a good reporter gets the story.

    Good reporters do get the story, Tuck, but almost always it’s a bad reporter that becomes the story.

  79. 79.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    @Poopyman:

    What does The Daily Caller say now? The reporter they’re proud of now says he’s too stupid to recognize when a statement is over, albeit with a grudging, sort of whiny tone.

    Is that what they’re proud of? That they’re fuck ups?

  80. 80.

    Alex S.

    June 15, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    This is Obama drawing a line in the sand between past and future. If he wins the election, by whatever margin, he’ll cement these changes. He’s heightening the differences.

  81. 81.

    muddy

    June 15, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    What would be good here is a gif of Jon Stewart on Crossfire, telling Tucker he’s a dick. Over and over and over. I live in hope it will be on Monday’s Daily Show. Not holding breath however.

    Anyway it doesn’t matter what he yelled out, the President *was speaking*. Sam Donaldson shouted questions as Reagan walked away, but no one ever interrupted him. Black prez don’t count when it comes to courtesy, the rules of addressing the President at press conferences don’t apply to him of course.

  82. 82.

    TooManyJens

    June 15, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Maude: “Neil who? Never heard of the guy. In other news, here’s Neil Munro with a report on the Kenyan Usurper’s plan to boost unemployment among white Americans.”

  83. 83.

    Poopyman

    June 15, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    @kay:

    Is that what they’re proud of? That they’re fuck ups?

    When Tucker Carlson is involved, I read this as a rhetorical question.

  84. 84.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    @kay:
    I guess because their gut reaction is always “In your face, Obummer!” On the other hand, Neil Munro, if he has the brains God gave a pudding, must realize by now that the White House will have devised some way of freezing him out that is too subtle for him to complain about.

  85. 85.

    amk

    June 15, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Culture of Truth: You win the thread.

  86. 86.

    burnspbesq

    June 15, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    It’s a shame that Obama didn’t go all Bryce Harper on that guy.

    Can you imagine the brain-explosions if he’d just said “Clown question, bro?”

  87. 87.

    sharl

    June 15, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    test

  88. 88.

    TooManyJens

    June 15, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @burnspbesq: God damn it. I didn’t even know I wanted that until you said it.

  89. 89.

    qwerty42

    June 15, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Haley Barbour is quoted

    Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour warned Republicans on Friday that the party needs to embrace immigration reforms that will provide legal status for undocumented workers.
    “We need to do better among Hispanic voters,” he told reporters at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. “In my state, where fewer than 3 percent of the voters are Hispanic, we need to do better.”

    He wants the wingnuts to calm down, but looks like it’s too late. I’m sure Barbour and others in the Republican Party find this sort of stuff “unpleasant” (like the previous “War on Women”), but it is the party they have, a party they built. Now it jumps the rails, revealing itself as angry, misogynistic, racist, warmongering (against the Soviets, to be sure!) and dog knows what else will be revealed to the public by the end of summer. They cannot stop themselves.

  90. 90.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    The Daily Caller is proud when their reporters can hold a pen and a notebook at the same time.

  91. 91.

    Citizen_X

    June 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: Well, he’d win the ironic hipster vote for that, no matter what Ron Paul says after.

    But I can’t imagine Obama doing that. How about he just have Samuel L. Jackson up on the stage when he’s speaking? Then, when some twerp like this pipes up, he can say, ,”HEY! The PRESIDENT is SPEAKING. SHUT. The FUCK. UP.

  92. 92.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @muddy: Anyway it doesn’t matter what he yelled out, the President was speaking. Sam Donaldson shouted questions as Reagan walked away,
    Exactly. All reporters yell at all presidents for as long as I can remember. Even in former East Room press conferences, every time the president finishes an answer, that being the key point, they start clamoring for attention like Arnold Horshack (you younglings can make a google). But they don’t interrupt.

    @Amir Khalid:

    if he has the brains God gave a pudding,

    I wish I could use that in daily conversation in America. Somebody on the TV said Munro was there on a daily “blogger pass”. He’s’ never been to the WH before, and likely now never will again.

  93. 93.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 15, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @Shinobi:

    Yes, the painting is quite appropriate.

    Except that this time, he’s the President. [And probably a whole lot tougher than that little girl.]

  94. 94.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    This is why I won’t vote for Obama.

    He thuggishly violated that reporter’s first amendment rights.

  95. 95.

    sharl

    June 15, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Mike Elk is a leftie labor journalist. IMHO he’s quite good at straight-up reporting. But I wouldn’t trust him to detect snark, based on his neurobiological architecture. [He reminds me of my sweet, happy, not-a-mean-bone-in-his-body nephew, who is also missing the snark/irony detection module.]

  96. 96.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    @Citizen_X: You’ve seen the Key and Peele show?

  97. 97.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 15, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @Amir Khalid: #84

    if he has the brains God gave a pudding

    :-)

    Love it!

  98. 98.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @Citizen_X: English, mothafucka, DO YOU SPEAK IT?

  99. 99.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    I just think they’re way off track if they’re “news” and not “opinion”. They can’t have this closed circle, where pundits talk about political media, and vice versa. I think everyone in any profession has to ask themselves, every once in a while, “what is my job supposed to be ABOUT? What is my general role here?”

    A reporters job can’t be about political media, right? That’s a definite “no”. They can go from there, but that there is a “no, not that”. If they hear themselves talking exclusively about each other, I would think that would something of a red flag.

  100. 100.

    Hunter Gathers

    June 15, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    Mittens responds with a big ball of mush.

  101. 101.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 15, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    @Hunter Gathers: #100

    That was actually an intelligent-sounding non-comment. I wonder if he was reading what somebody else had written.

  102. 102.

    shortstop

    June 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    @Mike Lamb: Pretty sure she never reads most of the other comments in threads.

  103. 103.

    Hunter Gathers

    June 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: I’ve read it several times and still have no idea what the fuck he is trying to say. Other than not taking a position on it, which is pure Mittens.

  104. 104.

    me

    June 15, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    @David Koch: Chicago style politics!

  105. 105.

    Sasha

    June 15, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    I am amazed that anyone on the right thinks these juvenile stunts are winning anyone over to their side.

    Winning people over to their side? No.

    Winning more money from people already on their side? Yes.

  106. 106.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    It only took Mittens 6 hours for him to cook up a garbled boilerplate non response, response.

  107. 107.

    Sasha

    June 15, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    And yes, I believe the Prez was a bit pissed.

    That Obama was merely pissed and did not rip the jackhole’s throat out is a testament to his coolness under pressure.

  108. 108.

    Martin

    June 15, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Man, Mitt is going to have to walk that shit back. He’s really trapped. Rather than another flip-flop, he supported Obama’s decision but criticized the process. And what was his criticism? That a future president could reverse the decision – made while campaigning to be that future president. Clever. Mitt is uniquely positioned to protect the policy he’s claiming to support by vowing to not reverse it, while actually wink-wink-nudge-nudging that he’d reverse it by pointing out that its vulnerable. I think even Wolf Blitzer is smart enough to see Schrodinger’s position here and call him on it.

    I give him until Sunday morning to be forced into a firm position supporting or opposing the policy.

  109. 109.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    June 15, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @bemused: [quote]The Romney campaign must think heckling and honking is great for exciting the bully loving base, the 27 percent crazy. I notice Romney makes no attempt to tamp that down, at least publicly. People like Munro are beefing up their rightwing resumes. My thought is how low can they go before it turns off many of those not the hard core 27 percent of Republicans or is there anything so embarrassing or shameful Republicans can do that would be unacceptable?[/quote]

    For a greater understanding of why the Right engages in this type of behavior, see Josh Marshall’s Theory of Bitch-Slap Politics (which you will find cross-referenced with “Swiftboating”). It’s *not* about winning hearts and minds, that’s for sure.

  110. 110.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @biff diggerence:

    Yes, I could imagine being stuck in the snow, popping open the trunk, pulling Tucker Carlson out, stuffing him under the power wheel (with studs on the tire) and using him for traction to get unstuck, then driving off, leaving the shredded remains behind.

    Yup, I would like to see him used for traction.

  111. 111.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Martin: The crazies are going to demand purity here, and Willard will assent to this in front of that audience. Then when he gets to Nevada or Texas, suddenly he’ll reverse himself again and go back to either hedging or denying the crazy talk. We’ve all seen this dance from him before.

  112. 112.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    OK, someone, somewhere is going to breach, and use the N-word.

    Who is it going to be?

  113. 113.

    Gus

    June 15, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Southern Beale: That’s gotta be facetious.

  114. 114.

    chopper

    June 15, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @TG Chicago:

    lol. ‘i’m still angry that obama didn’t adopt a phony-baloney plan that guts social security and medicare. luckily, i still have vodka shots in the library for succor’.

  115. 115.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:
    Just ask Mitt what kind of “long-term solution” he has in mind for this, or for anything, and watch him panic.

  116. 116.

    Bex

    June 15, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    @curiousleo: If there’s a pool on near-day, I’m taking August 23.

  117. 117.

    Djur

    June 15, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    Chris Hayes was being sarcastic, but do you know who did sincerely defend the heckler? Balloon Juice’s bestie Corey Robin. Heh.

  118. 118.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    This was only a stunt by Obama to step on Romney’s spectacular bus tour.

  119. 119.

    Tokyokie

    June 15, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    @Mark S.: Yeah, but then they’d need opposable thumbs.

  120. 120.

    gbear

    June 15, 2012 at 4:46 pm

    @Martin:

    I think even Wolf Blitzer is smart enough to see Schrodinger’s position here and call him on it.

    Wolf was willing to go to Sheriff Arpaio for comment on this. I don’t see Wolf as having any smarts at all, on any topic, ever. He’s a gasbag.

  121. 121.

    chopper

    June 15, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    @Brachiator:

    a)What Romney will say about this.

    he’s going to have an alternate policy to talk about, but a convenient bus horn will honk every time he talks.

    hey, he said his immigration policy is near!

  122. 122.

    chopper

    June 15, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    @handsmile:

    it also goes to show how much mittens is in the president’s wake here. while mittens is busy driving around in his bus hooting, the president uses his power to change policy for the better. and mittens has no real response except to hoot louder.

    just goes to demonstrate the difference between the two candidates.

  123. 123.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    June 15, 2012 at 4:52 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    [quote]I’m not sure that he was but even so…[/quote]

    You obviously don’t know who Chris Hayes is. He’s Maddow-level smart. No way he’s actually condoning what went down, today.

    Do yerself a favor: When 20-something people here politely point out you’re reading something wrong, reassess your take.

    Unless you like looking deliberately obtuse.

  124. 124.

    NancyDarling

    June 15, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    @Southern Beale: I read that tweet from Hayes as snark.

  125. 125.

    Svensker

    June 15, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    @Djur:

    Are you Derf or Matoko or LilTim? And who the hell is Corey Robin? Apparently I’ve missed this “bestie” in my 3 years of reading BJ pretty much daily.

  126. 126.

    chopper

    June 15, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    @David Koch:

    yeh, the irascible blustery tour aint going so well right about now.

  127. 127.

    IowaOldLady

    June 15, 2012 at 4:58 pm

    Re whether any other reporter ever did anything similar to another president (which I don’t buy anyway):

    A couple of years ago, I realized that stupid talk was much easier to assess if I put my mom hat on. The occasion was that time in Gitmo when a guard urinated on a Koran and then said it was an accident. So, mom hat on, I imagine a situation in which a kid says, “I peed on my brother’s book but it was an accident.” Do I buy that? Hhahahahhah. No.

    In this case, mom hat on, “If Donny from up the street jumped off a bridge would you do it too? Does that make it a good idea?”

    Clarifies a lot of crap.

  128. 128.

    NancyDarling

    June 15, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    @NancyDarling: And I’m a fairly old lady.

  129. 129.

    Mike Lamb

    June 15, 2012 at 4:59 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: Really? I thought it was patently ridiculous. He’s also lying by implication to even talk about wanting legislation on the matter. It’s been kicking around for a decade.

  130. 130.

    sharl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:00 pm

    @IowaOldLady: Hahaha, this is excellent guidance! Thanks for the comment.

  131. 131.

    gelfling545

    June 15, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    @sharl: This can also depend on how much you have previously been exposed to it in your early life. Dinner table conversation amongst me & my sibs was pretty much a snark fest & my kids, nieces, nephews have carried on the proud tradition but it can take others aback or leave them merely puzzled. Nothing kills a good snark like having someone ask you earnestly why you think that.

  132. 132.

    ChrisNYC

    June 15, 2012 at 5:03 pm

    Mitt is dangerously close to disappearing as a candidate. Ask him about immigration he says, “Sen Rubio has the plan.” Ask him about Soc Sec he bows to Paul Ryan. Ask him about public employees, he says, “I agree with Gov Walker.” Ask him why he ran he says, “Ann told me I had to.” Big story about the immi order and big story about the slimeball interrupting Obama and Mitt is nowhere. Doesn’t augur well for MR.

  133. 133.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    @Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn:

    but that is not even a bitch slap. A honking bus? Are you fucking kidding me? A bitch slap actually requires a slap, this is the 2 year old version of a tantrum.

  134. 134.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    June 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    @Valdivia:

    Agreed, but I was mainly referring to the douchey-douche reporter.

    Plus, I’m not saying all attempts at bitch-slap politics are going to avoid looking blatantly, Wile E. Coyote cartoonish.

  135. 135.

    No One of Consequence

    June 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: I dunno about that. That little girl was *MIGHTY* fuggin’ tough by my standards. No disrespect to POTUS intended, but that little girl had fortitude that couldn’t be carried in a oil-sands earth-mover dumptruck.

    – NOoC

  136. 136.

    Chris

    June 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    @Valdivia:

    I really cannot understand how these people think this is ok? From the Romney honkies to this Daily Caller heckler, WTF?

    The Romney honkies: “hey, lighten up, sure, it’s not okay, but it’s still just a few kids having fun, why are you obsessing on this? my God, you people are thin-skinned.”

    The heckler, of course – all together now: “it’s just an isolated incident.”

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:

    I don’t get the aggression.
    …
    Aren’t they (from their point of view, anyway), winning?

    IMO, and like I said yesterday,

    They. Hate. Him. They really, absolutely fucking loathe Obama on an almost pathological level. So when they see an opportunity to say “fuck you” to him as loudly as they can, an increasing number of them take it, and I don’t think the ramifications even occur to them. At least not as they’re doing it.

  137. 137.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    @ChrisNYC:
    Mitt is about to show everyone how far a presidential candidate can get who disavows his own political past, who outlines no personal vision of his ideal America, who offers only other people’s policies: a complete cipher whose only identity is being a Republican. It will be instructive.

  138. 138.

    Chris

    June 15, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    @TooManyJens:

    I don’t think the right’s tried seriously to win anyone over in a long time. To win someone over, you have to treat them with some kind of respect—enough to at least listen to their concerns and convince them that your policies are the best ones to address those concerns.
    …
    The right doesn’t have any respect for anyone who isn’t in their narrow class of Real Americans. They see the rest of us as traitors and disease. No, all they have is firing up the base (who love this sort of shit), and suppressing the votes of the enemy.

    Exactly. The right’s strategy for the last forty or fifty years has been “if we can just concentrate on winning the white vote, it doesn’t matter how many darkies and darkie-lovers we piss off.”

    Goes a long way towards explaining their psychotic my-way-or-the-highway attitude towards governing, too: the rest of us aren’t even American to them. Not really American. We have no right to be here in their perfect utopia. We’re parasites and house pests. And you don’t sit down with parasites and house pests and talk about what you all want for the house, you just wage war on them.

  139. 139.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    Ha, TPM says that Willard’s response was to criticize Obama’s directive as (paraphrase) short sighted solution to long term problem, but would not way whether he would reverse it or not.

    The Romneybot is spurting oil again, and is getting itself all slippery.

    Some said Romney would have to respond, as in, say something meangingful on the topic.

    But I think I predicted: weird awkward and untrustworthy BS would be response.

    I bet a few people could reverse engineer the Romneytron and predict the nonmeaningful beahvior fairly precisely. Probably an Obama team doing that now. But, will it be considered cheating for the debates? Could there be a patent violation?

    Edit: Oops. Brachiator beat me to it.
    Double oops, looks like it was chopper.

  140. 140.

    Chris

    June 15, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    @qwerty42:

    He wants the wingnuts to calm down, but looks like it’s too late.

    Much too late.

    That’s the thing, and it’s why the demographics thing does in fact give me some hope: Sure, I get that over time as Latinos are assimilated into the country, a lot of them will find reasons not to vote Democrat anymore, the MOTU will find ways to appeal to them just like they’ve found ways to appeal to white working-class voters, etc.

    The problem is, for that to happen, the GOP would have to first dial down the racial rhetoric on Latinos enough, and that’s just not happening. If anything, they’re going backwards, and anyone who wants to change things is getting viciously primaried. They’re as solid a Democratic voting bloc now as they’re ever going to be, and I don’t see that fading for some time.

  141. 141.

    Tonal Crow

    June 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    Please keep this up, wingers. And please don’t forget the questions about birth certificates and “Kenyan anti-colonial behavior”.

  142. 142.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    @Chris:
    My understanding is that the Latino/Hispanic presence in America goes back centuries, and in fact many of them aren’t immigrants at all; they’ve been there at least as long as the white population. How many more centuries, I wounder, will they need before they are assimilated into America?

  143. 143.

    MikeJ

    June 15, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @Chris:

    The problem is, for that to happen, the GOP would have to first dial down the racial rhetoric on Latinos enough,

    That by itself would be a triumph for us.

  144. 144.

    andrewsomething

    June 15, 2012 at 5:58 pm

    Here’s some stellar previous reporting from our intrepid journalist:

    http://jamyerson.com/2011/10/18/oh-neil/

  145. 145.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 6:01 pm

    Off-topic: The Recent Posts box is taking forever to load for me, and holding up the loading of the page as a whole. Anyone else having this problem?

  146. 146.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    June 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @Chris:

    They. Hate. Him. They really, absolutely fucking loathe Obama on an almost

    pathological

    level.

    I probably hate Mitt Romney just as much, and for more solid reasons. Yet I still wouldn’t heckle him, or drive around his stump speech honking (look for the little black Subaru with the WARREN sticker on it).

    And… I’m neither an angel, nor particularly well-mannered. In fact, I’m kind of an asshole.

    So I guess I just can’t understand such a level of pure, unjustified assholery.

  147. 147.

    Turgidson

    June 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    Of course they do. As usual, a quick note that some anonymous douche in the comments at Daily Kos said something mean in 2005 will do the trick.

  148. 148.

    Jay in Oregon

    June 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    @Hill Dweller:

    The twitter machine tells me CNN brought on Joe Arpaio to discuss Obama’s announcement…

    Speaking of Arpaio’s immigration policy credentials, did anyone think to ask him about being sued by the Federal government for civil rights violations of people suspected to be illegal immigrants?

  149. 149.

    TenguPhule

    June 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    4tehlulz Says:

    If this keeps up, this is going to end very, very badly.

    I say, let the Secret Service thin this overgrown herd of obviously unhealthy Meat Pressers. Preferably with Hunting Rifles for the sport.

  150. 150.

    TenguPhule

    June 15, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    And you don’t sit down with parasites and house pests and talk about what you all want for the house, you just wage war on them. Exterminate them.

    Fixed.

    It is down to them or us.

    And if somebody needs to get wiped out then let it be them.

  151. 151.

    WereBear

    June 15, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    @Amir Khalid: How many more centuries, I wounder, will they need before they are assimilated into America?

    I sense that is a struggle that is going to preoccupy this century.

    Mr WereBear pointed out that the only outlets carrying the President lately are PBS; I wonder why that is. Who covered the “too long” barn-burner he gave in Cleveland?

  152. 152.

    gwangung

    June 15, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    @WereBear: Yeah, well, Asian Americans know that it’ll take the century after this for US.

  153. 153.

    piratedan

    June 15, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    it’s funny, the big concern is about those american workers who may lose their “jobs” to these folks who are DREAM Act eligible and nary a peep about those job creators shipping American jobs overseas when outsourcing was all the rage to Bangalore, then we were told that profit margins dictated this necessary change and to suck it.

  154. 154.

    magurakurin

    June 15, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @Amir Khalid: yeah, and they even live in places like Colorado, Florida, Los Angeles, San Francisco, El Paso, all good, Anglo-Saxon words. And imagine trying to assimilate into a place named New Mexico.

  155. 155.

    Nickws

    June 16, 2012 at 10:38 am

    @Southern Beale:

    I’m not sure that he was but even so, he’s not the only one. Chekk out Mike Elk’s Twitter feed. Labor reporter for In These Times.

    Mike Elk on twitter: wow reporter who heckled Obama, sent emails to @jameyerson calling him racist – crazy shit

    Good grief, don’t tell me you parsed that as Mr Elk agreeing with Mr Daily Caller Loon about the president being a racist, and boy it sure is some crazy shit that Obama is a racist.

    Because, no, these lefty media guys you’re quoting, they’re actually administering written beatdowns of this Munro guy.

  156. 156.

    Doubleday

    June 16, 2012 at 12:52 pm

    @Southern Beale: Um…sarcasm?

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