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by DougJ|  June 15, 20125:04 pm| 160 Comments

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It won’t surprise you that ABC News is rallying around the Daily Caller.

Update. Klein later retweeted something from another reporter saying he didn’t believe Munro’s story. Jim Newell sums the whole thing up pretty well:

This was a great PR thing that Tucker Carlson did for his little website and your ethical rebukes will only make him happier. Pure bad faith, baby, that’s how we roll in the Greatest Country In The History Of The World these days.

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 15, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Yup, it’s bullshit. Fuckstick thought the Prez was “wrapping up”. Sure.

    ABC News is a sewer.

  2. 2.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    I thought the president always said “I’ll take questions” when he was “wrapping up”?

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    Who ya gonna believe? Me, or your lying eyes?

    Todd Zwillich @ toddzwillich
    I was standing right behind Munro in the Rose Garden. Idea he “mistimed” his questions isn’t credible. He purposely interrupted.

    ‘

    From Think Progress.

  4. 4.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2012 at 5:08 pm

    I called it! Thought it would be Tapper but was told in the other thread he’s in Mexico.

  5. 5.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    The miserable Note is still around?
    And as silly and transparent as ever.

    Guess I have missed a lot of updates from Rick Klein. Too bad.

    Since I am admittedly out of the loop on this stuff, is if fair to identify a pathetic political gossip and BS blog like the Note with ABC News? I hope not.

  6. 6.

    Zifnab

    June 15, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    @JenJen: If he had a TV in his hotel room, I wouldn’t be surprised if he spent the evening yelling at it.

  7. 7.

    Roger Moore

    June 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I thought the president always said “I’ll take questions” when he was “wrapping up”?

    Yeah, but that only works if the reporter is actually listening to what the President is saying. If he’s ignoring his words because he’s only there to be an asshole, he’s going to judge by body language, skin color, etc.

  8. 8.

    Punchy

    June 15, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    Has Neil Munro ever interrupted Sullivan before?

  9. 9.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    but isn’t he some pinko because he works for NPR? Am I wrong?

  10. 10.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    @Roger Moore: I saw what you did there.

  11. 11.

    Joseph Nobles

    June 15, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    Klein also retweeted David Kerley’s response to his tweet:

    I find this astonishing. And I was standing behind this guy.And he interrupted the President twice. Please!

    So perhaps the Klein tweet was a “can you believe these morons” situation.

  12. 12.

    Dork

    June 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Is it true that lily-ass white, guy-named-Neil tried to claim he was an immigrant? If true, that’s just comedy.

  13. 13.

    cat48

    June 15, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    Mike Vacarro, NBC, was standing next to him & he strongly thinks the Fucker knew what he was doing b/c he did it more than once. Vacarro said “NO ONE” has ever done that before. He had a temporary pass for 1 day only. Betcha he doesn’t get another. Everybody thinks they “cave”; not so much when it comes to the press. It will be his final performance.

  14. 14.

    Bort

    June 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Yeah, but Sam Donaldson was really loud 25 years ago, so both sides do it! It’s all good!

  15. 15.

    cursorial

    June 15, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Given that the Daily Caller can get WH press credentials, can we start issuing them to the Onion as well? You know, just so all points of view are represented.

  16. 16.

    Cris (without an H)

    June 15, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    Yeah, I’m not sure a sentence starting “Daily Caller folks say…” constitutes a rally-round. It’s sort of like “Oliver North claimed…”

  17. 17.

    Mark S.

    June 15, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I thought the president always said “I’ll take questions” when he was “wrapping up”?

    That’s what they teach you at those fancy news organizations. You can’t expect a Daily Caller guy to know that.

  18. 18.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    @cursorial:

    “Daily Caller can get WH press credentials”

    The weirdness of that fact did not register until now.

    Does Wonkette have WH and Congressional press credentials?

    Wonkette seems to be funny on purpose, so seems like they are more qualified, editorialwise, for credentials.

  19. 19.

    Bruce S

    June 15, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    Not sure this qualifies as “ABC News rallying around…”

    Actually, I’m sure it doesn’t.

  20. 20.

    japa21

    June 15, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @cursorial: Well, at least The Onion would be a more accurate news organization than The Daily Caller.

  21. 21.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @jl: I think they pass around a 1-day blogger credential to all the non WHPC members.

  22. 22.

    Roger Moore

    June 15, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @cursorial:

    Given that the Daily Caller can get WH press credentials, can we start issuing them to the Onion as well?

    I’m pretty sure The Onion will ask more interesting, relevant questions, too.

  23. 23.

    RP

    June 15, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    I don’t think they’re defending The Daily Caller. The “THOUGHT” in all caps suggests that they don’t find the defense persuasive.

  24. 24.

    MikeBoyScout

    June 15, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    President Obama sometimes forgets that an important presidential statement does not have to be endless. […] It’s hard to imagine that the statement, overgrown as it was with policy details, won the hearts of many independent journalists, yearning for a clear understanding of when it is the right time to ask the president a question.

    See? It writes itself.

  25. 25.

    JenJen

    June 15, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @Zifnab: Can’t you hear him now?? “TUCKER CARLSON’S VANITY PROJECT IS A LEGITIMATE NEWS ORGANIZATION GRRRR SMASH ME ANGRY OHHHHH WAIT ME WRONG”

  26. 26.

    dr. luba

    June 15, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    Just plain rude. No manners.

  27. 27.

    FuriousPhil

    June 15, 2012 at 5:27 pm

    ABC News is more like Entertainment Tonight than a news program. Basically, it’s for showing old people drug ads and youtube videos because they can’t figure out how to use the internet.

    Anyways, this is the double standard at work. A MI state rep says ‘vagina’, Repubs get all verklempt, conservative blogger/professional asshole interrupts POTUS, he’s a hero of the movement. As an old black lady once told me, it doesn’t cost anything to be polite.

  28. 28.

    taylormattd

    June 15, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    goddamn I love the Wonket. I finished reading Jim Newell’s fine screed, and moved on to this: http://wonkette.com/475485/alleged-sex-creep-in-peter-pan-hat-is-prominent-oregon-gop-politican-of-course

    My favorite part:

    In reality this still sounds pretty bad, but your Wonkette was not sold until we came across the above picture of Wingard wearing a silly hat to work. This is how actual editorial processes work in professional newsrooms. (News editor: “Eh, kill the story unless there are good pictures.” Chief photo editor/intern slave: “We have one of the guy fellating a corn dog.” News editor: “Great, I’ll put a reporter on it.”)

  29. 29.

    RP

    June 15, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    from the comments at Wonkette:

    Tucker Carlson makes me all throat-punchy AND stabby, all at once.

  30. 30.

    beltane

    June 15, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @jl: Wonkette is far more reality based than the Daily Caller. I am trying to think of a left equivalent to Daily Caller ever having received WH press credentials but I’m drawing a blank.

  31. 31.

    Violet

    June 15, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    If the Daily FTucker can get a press pass, why can’t Balloon Juice? If trolling the President is the next big thing, DougJ would do a far better job.

  32. 32.

    Redshift

    June 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    @cat48:

    He had a temporary pass for 1 day only. Betcha he doesn’t get another. Everybody thinks they “cave”; not so much when it comes to the press. It will be his final performance.

    I’m betting that was part of the plan all along. How many hours do you think it will be before the Tucker Post is trying to raise money off being blacklisted by the administration?

  33. 33.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    @Violet: I was about to suggest that. But I think the closest person to DC is ol’ misanthropist hisself. No way he will do it.

    Maybe if he can bring the pets with him to meet Bo. Otherwise I am doubtful.

    Any random BJer in DC can volunteer.

  34. 34.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    That was supposed to be question, but WP won’t let me edit, so repeat:

    Any random BJer in DC can volunteer?

    Edit: After hearing the clip again, I guess the Daily Caller jerk also THOUGHT Obama was finished with his just as Obama got six words into the answer.

  35. 35.

    Flying Squirrel Girl

    June 15, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    When do we get our own?

  36. 36.

    dr. bloor

    June 15, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    @Violet: Once the WH realizes that DougJ would spend his time trolling the reporters rather than POTUS, they’d give him a permanent credential.

  37. 37.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    @jl: I think eemom is in DC. wouldn’t that be a hoot!

    Or cryptolibertarian SteveinDC.

  38. 38.

    Violet

    June 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @dr. bloor:
    Maybe lefty blogs should start clamoring for credentials. I mean, if the I-Get-Fired-From-Every-Job-I’ve-Had Carlson’s vanity project gets a credential, why can’t TBogg or someone from Balloon Juice?

  39. 39.

    beltane

    June 15, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @RP: Almost every comment on that thread is a thing of beauty. In the event of a Romney win, I think the entire Wonkette commentariat should be given WH press credentials.

  40. 40.

    Jennifer

    June 15, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    TPM has credentials, don’t they?

    Not that they’re the left equivalent of Daily Callgirl. There is no left equivalent of Daily Callgirl, which is something we should all take pride in.

  41. 41.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2012 at 5:45 pm

    @Redshift:

    I’m betting that was part of the plan all along.

    No, they would have done it before if it was planned or at lest they wouldn’t have done it on a Friday, the lowest news cycle of the week.

    It’s all about the brown people. Mexicans really makes them go crazy.

  42. 42.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @jl:

    raises hand. I am a random BJer in DC :)

  43. 43.

    Metrosexual Black AbeJ

    June 15, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @Violet:

    I used to troll the WH Press Secretary, Jay Carney, when he was at Time. Rick Perlstein even wrote an article about it.

  44. 44.

    Cap'n Swag

    June 15, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    Rick Klein is a dipshit. How can anyone read that transcript and think Munro thought the president had wrapped up.

    Fuck this stupid media.

  45. 45.

    Redshift

    June 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    @David Koch: Hmmm, maybe. But if the point isn’t to make it known to the world at large, but only to make it well-known to the wingnutosphere, I’m not sure it’s being on Friday makes as much of a difference.

  46. 46.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    Doug, after years of calling out the media to question our dear leaders, you mean everyone but Obama?

  47. 47.

    quannlace

    June 15, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Yeah, but Sam Donaldson was really loud 25 years ago

    Yeeaaahhhh, but calling out loudly, ‘Mr. President, Mr. President’ when Q&A has started (The adult equivalent of a student yelling ‘Ooh, ooh, Mr Kotter.’) ain’t close to the same thing.

    That’s called being an obnoxious fuck.

  48. 48.

    Violet

    June 15, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @Valdivia: I nominate you for a Press Credential. Can you please smack around Chuck Todd when you are in the briefing room?

  49. 49.

    Hunter Gathers

    June 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Magua is going to be really pissed off when he finds out that the seed of Munro has survived.

  50. 50.

    Violet

    June 15, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    @Metrosexual Black AbeJ:
    You’d be perfect as our White House correspondent. And if you’d troll Chuck Todd, I”d appreciate it.

  51. 51.

    Gravenstone

    June 15, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    Would it upset the delicate sense of decorum in our Fifth Column Fourth Estate if there were a couple secret service agents patrolling the press gallery with shock prods?

  52. 52.

    Redshift

    June 15, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    @srv:

    Doug, after years of calling out the media to question our dear leaders, you mean everyone but Obama?

    I’m trying to decide if you’re really so thick you don’t understand why a “reporter” doesn’t have to interrupt the president’s speech in order to “question” the president at a press event where he has press credentials, or if you’re just trolling.

    Both are about equally stupid.

  53. 53.

    BGinCHI

    June 15, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    Anyone else point out that it’s pretty much true?

    Daily Caller and ABC and AP and other ARE sister news orgs. There are distinctions but precious little difference.

    Wag the fucking dog, bitches.

  54. 54.

    Martin

    June 15, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts:

    I thought the president always said “I’ll take questions” when he was “wrapping up”?

    You can’t really fault the guy for figuring the black presidents would be too lazy to do that.

  55. 55.

    dr. bloor

    June 15, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    @Hunter Gathers: (Golf clap)

  56. 56.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 6:02 pm

    @Violet: Second that!

    I can hear it now, at the next presser:
    “Valdivia, BJ Washington Bureau”

    It has a ring to it.

    Edit: When the BJ correspondent, says “I have a BJ question”, that will fit right in with the rest of the corporate press.

  57. 57.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    OT: There are more comments in the first four posts on the front page here than there are in all twelve front page posts at Redstate. The last eight FP posts at Redstate were posted yesterday, with the balance from today. Every single FP post here is from today.

    Enthusiasm, I think they lack it. Hate, bitterness and envy? I think they’re full of it.

    In more ways than one.

  58. 58.

    The Sailor

    June 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    The guy questioning Obama’s immigration plan by asking if it won’t have immigrants taking American’s jobs is an immigrant taking an American’s job.

  59. 59.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    @Violet:

    oh I promise to do much more than that. I have plans, evil secret nefarious plans. :)

    @jl:
    And I promise to do you all very very proud. The Village won’t know what hit it

  60. 60.

    lacp

    June 15, 2012 at 6:06 pm

    @Gravenstone: It would be an interesting test of security if, the next time one of these mouth-breathers pulls this trick, the person next to him/her/it immediately drowned them out by shouting “Oh my god! He/she/it’s got a gun!”

  61. 61.

    lacp

    June 15, 2012 at 6:07 pm

    The spirit of Jeff Gannon lives on….

  62. 62.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    @Martin:

    because you know they do think that.

  63. 63.

    Violet

    June 15, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    @Valdivia:
    I think a bunch of blogs on the left should start loudly demanding press credentials. I mean if that idiot Tucker Carlson’s blog can get them, aren’t they just giving them away to anyone who asks?

  64. 64.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Oh Lord, not only is the Daily Caller dude a rude jerk, he is a very incompetent troll.

    Transcript of this world shaking press incident is up at TPM

    http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/full-exchange-between-obama-daily-caller-reporter

    If we are going to have trolls at WH press events, dammit, these Great United States deserve at least half competent ones.

    Doug Pseudonymble TrollJ would do better, even while sober.

  65. 65.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    Also, this:

    @ktumulty
    Odd detail: In video, Munro does not appear to be holding a notebook or a recording device.

    Betcha anything in 6 months we find out this whole thing was planned.

  66. 66.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    I see that the manic progressives at Kos are taking credit for Obama’s move today. They Occupied his campaign offices in three states and forced his hand! I think they found a poni!! Not to worry though, I’m sure there will still be plenty of whining and moaning.

    That’s one thing the emoprogs really enjoy, it makes them feel like they are fighting or something.

  67. 67.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    They gave Fox News the seat held by Helen Thomas. What the fuck did you people expect.

  68. 68.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    @Southern Beale: My heading is spinning! OMIGOD what new astonishing angle will reveal itself next!?

  69. 69.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    @Redshift: What’s stupid is Obama rarely takes questions at these events – probably didn’t even at this one.

    As long as your idea of ‘press’ event is few or no questions…

    How Bushian of y’all

  70. 70.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    @Violet:

    I completely agree. And I think our job would be to report on the Village, and their sister orgs.

  71. 71.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    Is Munro going for the Elton John look with his haircut? He almost nails it.

  72. 72.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 6:18 pm

    @Southern Beale: Did you read her whole Tweet thread? She is having way too much fun with this.

  73. 73.

    Mike in NC

    June 15, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    ABC News is a sewer.

    Would that be the same ABC News whose anchor is Diane Sawyer, former employee of Richard Nixon?

  74. 74.

    Amir Khalid

    June 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee:
    The thing about Elton John’s current look is, that’s not his real hair. Sir Elton’s been bald on top since the mid-1970s. So Munro would be trying to imitate a wig with his hairstyle.

  75. 75.

    Roger Moore

    June 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    @The Sailor:

    The guy questioning Obama’s immigration plan by asking if it won’t have immigrants taking American’s jobs is an immigrant taking an American’s job.

    Sure, but he’s a white immigrant, so it’s totally different.

  76. 76.

    Keith

    June 15, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    Give Jeff Guckert back his day pass, Neil!

  77. 77.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @Roger Moore: as a “Cold War Bridegroom”, he practically brought down Stalin single-handed

  78. 78.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    @The Sailor:

    you two are full of win.

  79. 79.

    Southern Beale

    June 15, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Yeah. Hippie.

    This is the mother of all distractions — and it’s a good distraction, hell I blogged about it. But with the GOP looking like a bunch of racist cranky McCranks what better way to throw Dems off message than making the story be about the media instead of about immigration.

  80. 80.

    Davis X. Machina

    June 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: They forced his hand on DADT too.

    Dude’s humeri got teflon balls…

  81. 81.

    Crusty Dem

    June 15, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    Punchline?

    Neil Munro was born in Ireland, attended Dublin’s University College, and is an American through marriage.

    He’s also well-known for being a world-class asshole.

  82. 82.

    SamR

    June 15, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    Nothing says “I’m a good-faith reporter seeking an answer to my legitimate question” like interrupting a prepared statement with a yelled “why won’t you stop beating your wife” type-question without a notepad out.

  83. 83.

    lacp

    June 15, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @Southern Beale: How very Breitbartian!

  84. 84.

    Trentrunner

    June 15, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    Diane Sawyer reminds you of the divorcee down the street whose robe “accidentally” falls open when signing for UPS.

  85. 85.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 15, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    We had a discussion a while ago about, among other things, whether Gandhi’s nonviolent resistance would work in the US.

    This article brings up an interesting idea. Maybe those techniques would work on Obama. Maybe they would work on other democrats.

    Hmmm.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/15/1100336/-POWER-OF-PROTEST-Occupations-of-Obama-Campaign-Offices-in-CA-MI-CO-Influenced-DREAM-Decision

  86. 86.

    Hunter Gathers

    June 15, 2012 at 6:30 pm

    @Crusty Dem: An Irish immigrant? Where’s Bill The Butcher when you need him?

  87. 87.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 6:33 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    IOW, a real phony? Natch.

    I know about his rug, the album cover for Caribou clearly showed his balding long ago.

    @Davis X. Machina:

    More like Delrin; lightweight, tough and as slippery as Teflon. ;)

  88. 88.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    The headline at CNN is “Obama bristles..”

    I knew it. I knew we’d be getting to the bottom of this and it would be AL)L due to Obama’s arrogant insistence on acting as President.

    Back in the real world, he’s up 8 in Michigan, and it’s Rasmussen, which means he’s up 12.

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    June 15, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Pretty sure it takes some serious smarts to become an Onionite. Tucker’s hall o’ shame requires only having chosen the right parents.

  90. 90.

    Seanly

    June 15, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    @Hunter Gathers:
    You win the intertubes for the day with the literary reference.

  91. 91.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    @kay:

    you know because he is blacketyblackblackblack
    everything is his fault even the ridiculously rude behaviour of deranged right wing bloggers.

    I see via Pareene that when he was a science correspondent he dedicated a lot of column inches to defending the vaccers. Figures.

  92. 92.

    Raven

    June 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @kay: I was on the road this afternoon and listened to Hannity for a couple of minutes. He was about to have a stroke about that arrogant n*(&*^&(&%*.

  93. 93.

    David Koch

    June 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    PPP:

    When I heard someone interrupted the President I immediately wondered if it was Neil Munro. Most unprofessional reporter I’ve ever talked to

    Munro yelled at me on the phone during the contraception debate for NOT asking biased poll questions. That was his line of argument

    After the experience with Munro we decided we would just not return calls from the Daily Caller any more

  94. 94.

    patroclus

    June 15, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @Hunter Gathers: For the thread Win! CJK5H to you all!

  95. 95.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    @Southern Beale:

    believe me that the people this is aimed at–Latinos–wont give an eff about the media narrative and will hear and know about the policy. This is the difference between their news organizations and the Village. They actually care about it and report accordingly.

  96. 96.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:47 pm

    This is the news report most read in the Univision news website

    http://noticias.univision.com/inmigracion/dream-act/article/2012-06-15/obama-frena-deportacion-de-dreamers#axzz1xuAYcXdT

    Note that it is super long and it details everything about the law, who it covers, how it will be implemented and how the Dream Act got lost in Congress.

  97. 97.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    President Obama told a heckler that he wants his press corps to ask him questions after he’s done speaking — and when he was done speaking, he walked away without taking any questions.
    __
    “Excuse me, sir,” Obama said as a reporter from the right-leaning Daily Caller website interrupted him. “It’s not time for questions, sir. Not while I’m speaking.”
    Shortly after, Obama told the reporter, “the next time, I prefer you let me finish my statements before you ask that question.”
    __
    The rest of the press corps waited, as Obama asked. When he was done, the reporters shouted their questions. Obama turned his back, and walked inside the White House.
    __
    That’s par for the course for Obama, who rarely takes questions from the press pool that follows him almost futilely to his staged events.

    Stenographers are sometimes a feature

  98. 98.

    gwangung

    June 15, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    @Valdivia: Yeah. I don’t think people realize that the community press plays a large part in shaping community opinion. Mass media plays very little and are often held in contempt by the community.

    I mean, for one thing, folks in the ethnic community actually know the owners of the ethnic presses by name. First name.

  99. 99.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 15, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    @dr. bloor:

    Once the WH realizes that DougJ would spend his time trolling the reporters rather than POTUS, they’d give him a permanent credential.

    “Mr President, DougJ, Balloon Juice here; which of these reporters do you think best embodies the spirit of late, great David Brooder by always understanding that both sides do it, when “it” is a bad thing? Thank you Mr President.”

  100. 100.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    @gwangung:

    The Village is going to focus on whatever it wants but those affected will know from their own news sources and care. I love also that the article from Univision is the most complete policy oriented thing I read all day on it. Instead of the glib all politics all the time bs from the DC Press Corpse.

  101. 101.

    Baud

    June 15, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques:

    I can’t tell you how much I would give to see this.

  102. 102.

    Hill Dweller

    June 15, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    @srv: Has any President done more press conferences/interviews than Obama in his first term?

  103. 103.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 6:57 pm

    @Raven:

    I thought he was amazingly restrained and polite.

    Judges are much, much meaner, and way more personally humiliating. The White House press corps don’t know the meaning of “dressed down” :)

  104. 104.

    Raven

    June 15, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    @kay: He called the little weasel shit “sir”.

  105. 105.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 15, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    @Hill Dweller: You don’t understand, Obot. One of our intrepid reporters was just dying to ask the question that would lead to the end of drone attacks and the implementation of single payer! Are you so far gone in your slavish, starry-eyed devotion to The One that you’re telling yourself all those junior Chuck Todds were just going to attempt gotcha questions about “How do you respond to those who say the timing here is related to the Latino vote?” and “You’re aware that this issue is very personal to Senator Marco Rubio. Did you consult with Senator Rubio?”

    Also, too: Nobody will ever be as open and honest as President Ralph Deancinich!

  106. 106.

    jl

    June 15, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    @Baud:

    That would be OK for a warm up, but I would expect a good BJ correspondent to troll the prez once in awhile, and do it well, not like this miserable Daily Caller hack.

    After this display, how will the Onion, Wonkette, or our intrepid corps of BJ would be DC bureau correspondents ever get their passes?

    So, this epic story of press rudery in itself is nothing, and probably serendipitously useful to WH and Obama campaign for calibrating their protocols for freaking out the wingnuts and the Mittster.

    Edit: and looks like Mitt has emitted enough verbiage to not stand by his previous positions, which he does not remember, whatever they were. That is a big surprise too.

    Edit: a good troll would do something that passes the laugh test initially, at least for a minute or two.

  107. 107.

    gwangung

    June 15, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    @kay: Mr. Zimmerman may have found this out.

  108. 108.

    harlana

    June 15, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    I am so sick and tired of this President being disrespected. If he were white, he’d be hated, but not disrespected over and over in this particular fashion.

    This is a minor example compared to shouting YOU LIE! at the SOTU and that trailer park hag Jan Brewer sticking her bony old finger in his face, but thought the President handled it well and that’s what I came away with. I’m glad he asserted himself. DailyCaller seems to be taking the victim route. Obama bullied poor innocent reporter.

  109. 109.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    June 15, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    @Baud:

    I can’t tell you how much I would give to see this.

    You can see how it plays out too; Obama’s look of “oh, this is to delicious,.. NO the President can’t snark!” and then making some vague statement about how Mr Brooder is missed. After that the press corps get goes into a frenzy of patting their own backs for a cycle over how Brooder lives on in them, until someone puts the words Brooder, DougJ and Balloon Juice together.

  110. 110.

    gwangung

    June 15, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    @Valdivia: Yup. Because it isn’t a horse race to the community. It’s our lives.

  111. 111.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @Hill Dweller: Your perception of reality is wrong, unless a couple more a year than W is the awesome

    But Kumar’s research indicates that Obama has held more solo White House news conferences — 17 — than his predecessor, George W. Bush, who held 11 in his first three years of office. On the other hand, Obama has held far fewer news conferences than former Presidents Clinton and George H.W. Bush, who held 31 and 56 news conferences, respectively.

    Obama has also been less likely to answer impromptu questions at photo-ops and other spur-of-the-moment sessions with reporters. Obama has only held 94 of these fewer short question-and-answer sessions, while predecessors George W. Bush and Clinton respectively held 307 and 493 in their first three years in office.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/207567-obama-finds-virtual-end-around-to-bypass-the-white-house-press

  112. 112.

    harlana

    June 15, 2012 at 7:13 pm

    This is a subject that resonates not only with teabaggers, but self-described moderates as well. Most of them resent immigrants as much as teabaggers.

    It’s easier to justify because you can say they are not citizens. And it doesn’t matter whether they are or not, they’re all going to get lumped together in their minds.

    So it’s getting the airplay intended which, when you think about it, is kinda unfortunate.

  113. 113.

    TooManyJens

    June 15, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    @cursorial:

    Given that the Daily Caller can get WH press credentials, can we start issuing them to the Onion as well? You know, just so all points of view are represented.

    What I wouldn’t give for Baratunde Thurston to have press credentials for one day.

  114. 114.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    @srv: Do you even have a point? Hell I don’t blame the President for blowing them off after he got so disrespected. He’s not obligated to dance for the howler monkeys. Get. Over. It.

  115. 115.

    harlana

    June 15, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    honestly, Tucker Carlson must have the tiniest penis in the world.

  116. 116.

    Violet

    June 15, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    @harlana:
    In the long run it’s not going to do much for Munro’s reputation or career as a journalist. The Villagers don’t like it when one of their own disrespects their own seat of power and that’s what Munro did. He showed “reporters” (since that’s who he was once he got that press pass) as being uncouth, disrespectful jerks. Mainstream Villagers won’t like the guilt by association he’s bringing to their insular house.

    He may be fluffed on wingnut TV in the short term, but even wingnuts know that disrespecting the office of the President of the United States doesn’t play well in most parts of the country.

  117. 117.

    LAC

    June 15, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: Did they occupy the headquarters or think real hard about it in front of their computers? :)

    Well, at least Tucker Carlson can take a break from deep throating his backers in coat rooms and bask in the glory of getting attention for a day. That’s gotta count for something.

  118. 118.

    lacp

    June 15, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    @srv: I’m not sure what your point is in regard to the subject of this thread. Are you saying that it would have been more acceptable if Munro had interrupted the president and shouted “Why don’t you answer more impromptu questions?”

  119. 119.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    @gwangung:

    The judge in Zimmerman told the lawyer he was a “potted palm”. Judge said “you can’t just sit there like a potted palm while the defendant leads me down the garden path”, which made me laugh because here judges say “potted plant” when they’re cruelly berating us on that sort of thing.

    It’s Florida. Regional differences in judicial insults. Palms, there, not plants.

  120. 120.

    Valdivia

    June 15, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    @kay:

    can we start calling the media in DC potted plants? or the regional equivalent?

  121. 121.

    Tonal Crow

    June 15, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    @Redshift: Your Snarkometer is borken.

  122. 122.

    harlana

    June 15, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    I missed the whole Romney thing with the donuts. I just watched it. How excrutiatingly awkward. He’s not just uncomfortable, he’s in pain. And, of course, he wasn’t going to touch the fucking donut, not with a ten foot pole. Do people really believe he is enjoying any of this? He looks like he cannot get out of there fast enough. And, if you don’t drink, what do you do to unwind after doing something you absolutely hate day after day? Pray?

    But then, there’s your answer to what Mitt Romney really is. And that’s why he can’t hide who he really is.

    Remember about a year or so ago when the WH was accused of calling Romney “weird”?

  123. 123.

    kay

    June 15, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    @Valdivia:

    It’s supposed to be this rough and tumble adversarial encounter. Why are they always whining?

    Obama called him “sir”, twice, and he said “please”. I don’t know that it gets much more respectful than that, for God’s sake. What did he expect? “Your Highness, may I trouble you not to interrupt me?”

    They’re big babies.

  124. 124.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    @lacp: The point is, democrats made hay forever about W and his admin not being held accountable by a press that could never ask a question, or got softballed all the time by always picking friendly reporters.

    If someone at ABC had done this to W, y’all would have been swinging by the chandeliers.

    Fuck any President that can’t stand in front of the press corps and answer questions outside of his safe zone.

  125. 125.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    @srv:

    With all of the Heathers in a faint over this, I strongly approve of the President dissing them all. Why in the fuck take questions from a bunch of assholes every time you speak to them? Obama is right to have delivered his message and then walk off.

    Why let them control the narrative with their bullshit questions? Let them create it themselves, as they always do, then he can fire back with something that pulls them up short.

    Obama understands this and is going to use it to his advantage, if possible.

  126. 126.

    Maude

    June 15, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    @srv:
    You used to be better at this. Are you okay?

  127. 127.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    @Raven: Come on, you were in the army. I know you can say sir in a way that sounds like an insult.

  128. 128.

    Jebediah

    June 15, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Hell I don’t blame the President for blowing them off after he got so disrespected.

    Is there any significant peer pressure among them? I’m wondering if getting blown off after one of them acts like an asshole would prompt anything like ” do that again and there will be ex-lax in your coffee…” from other reporters.

  129. 129.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @srv:

    Fuck any President that can’t stand in front of the press corps and answer questions outside of his safe zone.

    Lovely. So he was just supposed to stand there and take being rudely interrupted in the middle of a sentence? That’s not good journalism, that’s being a dick. The fact he blew off the rest of them afterwards is no big surprise. Munro already made it a clown show.

  130. 130.

    Jebediah

    June 15, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    @srv:

    If someone at ABC had done this to W, y’all would have been swinging by the chandeliers.

    Well, not me. What I wanted was W to be asked tough questions by reporters, and not let off the hook for lame answers, not heckled and shouted at. I wanted the general public to do that whenever possible, however.

  131. 131.

    arguingwithsignposts

    June 15, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    @srv:

    Fuck any President that can’t stand in front of the press corps and answer questions outside of his safe zone.

    When the WH Press Corpse starts asking those questions, I’ll be right there with you.

    I thought the president got tougher questions from the average citizens in the Google hangout thing he did last year.

  132. 132.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @Yutsano: You need to get out of your bubble and read the links. He never takes questions. If you excuse him for this time, do you excuse him for all the others? It’s peachy for a President to never answer to the press corps?

    Fine standard to set.

    His prior behavior an opportunity Munro saw.

  133. 133.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    @srv:

    His prior behavior an opportunity Munro saw.

    Holy fuck. You did not just excuse Munro’s behaviour just to pursue some firebagger agenda. You’re no better than he is. I hope you enjoy your right-wing brethren, because you’re now officially a wingnut.

  134. 134.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    June 15, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @srv:

    Let the conservatives complain, they set the standard with their acceptance of Bush doing the same thing. Need some cheese to go with your fine whine?

    Try Limburger, the bouquet fits perfectly with your opinion whine.

  135. 135.

    The Sheriff's A Ni-

    June 15, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @srv:

    It’s peachy for a President to never answer to the press corps?

    Unless its President Mitt Romney, then the press should treat the office with the respect it deserves. Fair is far, and we ‘progressives’ are nothing but fair, aren’t we?

  136. 136.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    @Yutsano: “la la la I can’t defend my position so I’ll just call you a firebagger when you point out those facts!”

    You’ve got a lot of growing up to do, start today, mkay?

  137. 137.

    Yutsano

    June 15, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @srv: Your facts are irrelevant to this thread. The President is obligated under law to give one report per year. Obama can choose whether to answer questions or not. He is not bound to just to make you happy. And the fact that you find common cause with a rude right-wing hack puts you in the same boat as Jane Hamsher. You are neither a liberal nor a progressive.

  138. 138.

    srv

    June 15, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @Maude: Used to?

  139. 139.

    Citizen Alan

    June 15, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    Would that be the same ABC News whose anchor is Diane Sawyer, former employee of Richard Nixon?

    Never new that about her. I did recall her anecdote about doing an interview with Reagan in which he was so out of it that he didn’t know who she was, and yet she decided it wasn’t newsworthy enough to tell until after the senile old coot was out of office.

  140. 140.

    Lurking Canadian

    June 15, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    I think the president showed great restraint and political skill by not saying, “Excuse me? Do I come to where you work and knock the dicks out of your mouth?” or words to that effect.

  141. 141.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    June 15, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    The Daily Caller isn’t a news organization, it’s something Tucker Carlson’s family gave him to keep him from eating his crayons and wandering out into traffic.

  142. 142.

    Bennett

    June 15, 2012 at 8:58 pm

    It’s rather easy to figure out when the President is ready to answer questions. This occurs when he says he is ready to answer questions. Easy-peasy, no?

  143. 143.

    Paula

    June 15, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    In place of press conferences where there’s no actual “news” anyway, Obama’s taken advantage of tech to go directly to regular people. Where they ask him about policy and not whether or not he’s disrespecting John McCain. Youtube, townhalls, linked-in forums … If srv wants to see the president answer questions about policy, they can probably google/youtube every single white house townhall event over the last 4 years. That’s not to assert that these public forums are more or less transparent than the White House Press Corps or that Obama gives more satisfying answers in them, but they probably make a good substitute for Beltway forums where neither Obama nor the press corps feel much pressure to be clear and/or truthful.

    “The White House is making a strategic calculation on when it offers the president for a news conference. The Obama communications team has shown it’s willing to have the president face the firing squad of questioners, but it would prefer to hold it during the television networks’ prime time line-up.

    A prime time slot equals more viewers and the administration wants to get the most bang for its buck.

    The networks have strongly pushed back against this becoming a trend because airing an hour of the president means an hour of no commercials, and a loss of revenue.

    The White House knows it has to balance its requests for network prime time coverage: Ask too frequently and the networks could simple decline to cover the president.

    The other option is to put the president before the media during the day. But the concern there is that the potential audience is dramatically smaller.

    As a result, the White House is making the strategic calculation that it will get better results by doing many selected interviews across a variety of platforms — television, radio, print — instead of daytime news conferences. ”

    James Fallows writing about Obama vis a vis the press during the Week of the Birth Certificate:

    “The “affably” acid comments in the first 20 seconds of this clip (from the White House) almost justify the whole birther extravaganza. Well, actually, they don’t –and don’t even come close. But the hyper-controlled Obama’s decision to let out that bit of bile about how the press works, including dropping the affable mask for a few seconds with the punchline “and you know it,” reveals the real feelings of every politician about the instincts and workings of the press.”

  144. 144.

    LAC

    June 15, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @srv: Still trying to have the last word, dick for brains?

  145. 145.

    LAC

    June 15, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @The prophet Nostradumbass: They shouldn’t spoil him like that. He might make a career out of traffic dodging and crayon eating.

  146. 146.

    myiq2xu

    June 15, 2012 at 9:34 pm

    @srv:

    Fuck any President that can’t stand in front of the press corps and answer questions outside of his safe zone.

    ^^This^^

  147. 147.

    Paula

    June 15, 2012 at 9:40 pm

    Well, tl, dr to me …

    Shorter version of what I wrote: Obama’s “exposed” himself so many times to public questioning that I’ve almost got his equivocation on legalizing marijuana memorized. (Admittedly, as a Californian where his raids on medical clinics are getting people legitimately angry, I don’t mind him getting continually hassled on the issue.)

  148. 148.

    amk

    June 15, 2012 at 9:53 pm

    @arguingwithsignposts: SteveinDC.is neilmunro ? He sure sounds like him what with his WATB act here 24×7.

  149. 149.

    LAC

    June 15, 2012 at 9:54 pm

    @Paula: Wow….didn’t know he had time to personally raid medical clinics. The guy gets around… :)

  150. 150.

    Paula

    June 15, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    @LAC:

    http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2012/05/obama_marijuana_smoke_teen_hot_box_dpa.php

  151. 151.

    Paula

    June 15, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    Speaking of needing some weed, PUMAs are bored today, I guess …

  152. 152.

    amk

    June 15, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    @Enhanced Voting Techniques: LOL. Now I’m convinced. dougj must get a pass. /pun intended.

  153. 153.

    amk

    June 15, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    @srv: Yes, Obama is a dictator. Now FO and go back to playing in firebagger/redstate land

  154. 154.

    Bago

    June 15, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Teflon coated tibia and fibia would probably prevent wrist injuries.

  155. 155.

    amk

    June 15, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    These are the 14 points of fascism. The rethugs hit every.single.one.of.them. Just see for yourself.

    http://www.rense.com/general37/char.htm

  156. 156.

    Xenos

    June 16, 2012 at 3:27 am

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: Heathen. Limburger should be eaten with beer, never wine.

    A slice of black bread and a slice of onion is also recommended.

  157. 157.

    tjmn

    June 16, 2012 at 6:07 am

    @Valdivia:

    No water for those potted plants, says the one who can kill silk flowers.

  158. 158.

    LAC

    June 16, 2012 at 8:08 am

    @Paula: Nice link. Based on the comments there, who knew potheads could be such nasty paranoid bitches.? And if the only thing they got to be concerned about is getting high , things in California must not be too bad. Next time link me to high living. Better writing and their comment section is much nicer.

  159. 159.

    The Sailor

    June 16, 2012 at 11:40 am

    @srv: “If someone at ABC had done this to W, y’all would have been swinging by the chandeliers.”

    You have proof of this, of course?

    Oh, wait, it never happened. So you sit in your mom’s basement and imagine things that never happened?

    You too can work for the Daily Yeller!

  160. 160.

    The Sailor

    June 16, 2012 at 11:51 am

    @srv: “You need to get out of your bubble and read the links. He never takes questions.”

    That’s just a lie. You do know that a speech from the POTUS isn’t the same as a press conference?

    Name any other President that got heckled by the press corpse while giving a speech.

    Just because you think the nig_CLANG shouldn’t be in the White House doesn’t give you the right to just make shit up.

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