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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Going in the tank

Going in the tank

by DougJ|  June 27, 20122:36 pm| 128 Comments

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If they go ahead with this, I don’t see how they have any credibility anymore with anyone outside of the far right:

Washington Post spokeswoman Kris Coratti confirmed that editors are meeting with Romney officials to discuss the campaign’s request for a retraction of the paper’s story on Bain Capital’s outsourcing.

“The editors really do take complaints seriously,” she told TPM. “They’re always willing to listen to people’s concerns. That’s what they’re doing.”

Update. WaPo does the right thing (via email from soonergrunt):

The Washington Post’s top editors just wrapped up a meeting with Romney officials to discuss the campaign’s request for a retraction of the paper’s story on Bain Capital’s outsourcing.

“We are very confident in our reporting,” Washington Post spokeswoman Kris Coratti told TPM after the meeting, adding that appointments with people concerned about coverage are common.

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  1. 1.

    Scott S.

    June 27, 2012 at 2:37 pm

    Bow down before the one you serve.

  2. 2.

    Chris Johnson

    June 27, 2012 at 2:38 pm

    Good Lord

  3. 3.

    Sharl

    June 27, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    GlennKesslerThePinnochioDude LIKED this {/tumblr_speak}

  4. 4.

    The Very Reverend Crimson Fire of compassion

    June 27, 2012 at 2:39 pm

    Wow. We’re not even pretending anymore, are we?

  5. 5.

    Brachiator

    June 27, 2012 at 2:40 pm

    If they go ahead with this, I don’t see how they have any credibility anymore with anyone outside of the far right

    Caving in to the far right is not the same thing as gaining credibility with them.

    Is this the same paper that stood up to Nixon?

    Damn.

  6. 6.

    nickgb

    June 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    I’m mostly amazed that they feel the need to even acknowledge these threats anymore… Do they really think this will be the time that they bend over backwards and the GOP stops calling them liberal media?

  7. 7.

    Tokyokie

    June 27, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    I’m sure the Romney officials will give them information that is not even remotely self-serving to justify a retraction.

  8. 8.

    EconWatcher

    June 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    I hate the WaPo, but maybe we could wait until they actually cave before we work ourselves into a tizzy. Just sayin’.

  9. 9.

    The Red Pen

    June 27, 2012 at 2:42 pm

    It’s all part of Obama’s MSM conspiracy! Don’t believe it!

  10. 10.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    June 27, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    editors are meeting with (what they hope are) future Romney Administration officials to discuss the campaign’s next administration’s request for a retraction of the paper’s story on Bain Capital’s outsourcing.
    __
    “The editors really do take Republican complaints seriously,” she told TPM. “They’re always willing to listen to people’s Right-Wing concerns. That’s what they’re doing.”

    __
    Fixt.
    __
    To the current set of WaPo editors the GOP always is, and always will be, the permanent and only legitimate govt. Democratic administrations are mistakes to be ignored, tolerated or attacked, as the need requires.

  11. 11.

    The Red Pen

    June 27, 2012 at 2:46 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Is this the same paper that stood up to Nixon?

    Technically yes; meaningfully, no.

  12. 12.

    Brachiator

    June 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    @EconWatcher:

    I hate the WaPo, but maybe we could wait until they actually cave before we work ourselves into a tizzy. Just sayin’.

    True enough. Let’s hope for something like this:

    Mitti: Enough! You are, all of you are beneath me! I am a Republican, you dull creature, and I shall not be bullied…

    [WaPo Hulk does what WaPo Hulk does]

    The WaPo Hulk: Puny Republican.

  13. 13.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    June 27, 2012 at 2:48 pm

    I’ve always had the suspicion that I’d live long enough to see our core institutions crumble, one by one.

    I just didn’t expect it to all happen in the space of 5-10 days.

    At this rate, Boehner dispatches the Sergeant at Arms to the White House (accompanied by a few of the Pope’s Swiss Guard in full regalia for good measure) to arrest the President by next Friday.

  14. 14.

    kindness

    June 27, 2012 at 2:49 pm

    What you mean ‘going’?

    Here I thought they were already there. TV is worse though.

  15. 15.

    JenJen

    June 27, 2012 at 2:50 pm

    Oh good gawd. Well, I kind of hope they do retract it then, so we can all have a good laugh.

  16. 16.

    Valdivia

    June 27, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    I guess Kessler will go into the meeting and advocate a retraction too.

  17. 17.

    MattF

    June 27, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Well, they can say “We published an article containing some facts about the policies of Bain Capital, and we stand by our reporting” or they can say “We published an article that hurt Mitt’s feelings, and that was a boo-boo.” We shall see.

  18. 18.

    Waldo

    June 27, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    @EconWatcher: Yep. Wake me up when they start throwing reporters under Mitt’s campaign bus.

  19. 19.

    Ash Can

    June 27, 2012 at 2:51 pm

    Whatever. They can meet. They can talk. They can even sound stupid serious about it. If they actually do anything about it, other than blow off everything the Romney people say in the meeting, then it’s a real problem (and one that I hope gets splattered all over the rest of the news media).

  20. 20.

    Tonal Crow

    June 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    I’m sure that WaPo would give the same consideration to a request from Obama’s campaign.

    Yeah, right.

    Also too, what the hell are newspapers doing having retraction meetings at all? Don’t they have confidence in what they publish? If they don’t, why are they publishing it? and if they do, why would they lower themselves to a retraction meeting?

    Never mind. I know the answer, which is always — always — “bend over, here comes a Republican”.

  21. 21.

    RP

    June 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    I honestly don’t think they would actually retract the story because many of their top writers (e.g., Dana Priest) would quit en masse. That said, the danger here is that the complaints will have a chilling effect on the next story critical of Romney, which is the campaign’s goal, I’m sure.

  22. 22.

    Comrade Mary

    June 27, 2012 at 2:52 pm

    Surely THIS … ah, I give up.

  23. 23.

    Rock

    June 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    Damn liberal media

  24. 24.

    shortstop

    June 27, 2012 at 2:53 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God: Speaking of Nixon, if everyone hadn’t cruelly laughed at Dick for this, Boehner could use the White House Police.

  25. 25.

    c u n d gulag

    June 27, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    The way this used to be handled, was the Editors would talk to the reporter(s) and ask him/her/them how solid the story was.

    If they said, “Solid!”, then the Editors used to go back to the offended party and say, “No meeting. We stick by our story! You want to sue? Fine. We have a legal department to handle that.”

    That, was, of course before the “Left-wing MSM” cries became mainstream.

    And feckin’ idjit Fred Hiatt is one of the key people who have helped to ruin what was once a great, great, paper.

  26. 26.

    Bort

    June 27, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    The Kaplan Post will rate their own story as “mostly false” because…we have student loan money to suck up for Pete’s sake!

  27. 27.

    waynski

    June 27, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    I wonder what the complaint is? I think they were reporting on companies he was actively involved with, no? Even if the outsourcing happened after he left, he takes credit for every job created at Staples and for saving the auto industry from the op-ed page of (NYT or WSJ? can’t remember). You’d think that would make it relevant as long as they disclosed whether he was actively involved with the company or not. And why would they “meet” with his people? Is that really how these things are done? Must be a quiet room. Pukes.

  28. 28.

    chopper

    June 27, 2012 at 2:58 pm

    unless the retraction is on the front page i don’t really think it goes anywhere.

    does go to show the ‘outsourcer-in-chief’ ads are hitting a nerve in OH and PA.

  29. 29.

    fuzz

    June 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Journalists and media are afraid of the right in a way they aren’t of the left. Being accused of having a liberal bias can be a career killer or cost revenue, whereas having a conservative/right wing bias gets you more freelance opportunities and is the mark of a Serious non-partisan journalist.

  30. 30.

    Thoughtcrime

    June 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    This is an attempt to inoculate Romney from the whole Bain and outsourcing/job destruction issues by “Dan Rathering” the story .

  31. 31.

    Chris

    June 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    If they go ahead with this, I don’t see how they have any credibility anymore with anyone outside of the far right:

    Well, isn’t that all they need? Pretty soon we’re going to have to look to 1930s Germany and Italy (or the 1880s South) to find any country where the far right was as mainstreamed as it is here.

  32. 32.

    scav

    June 27, 2012 at 2:59 pm

    Brain freeze, are these fine citizens part of greater Murdochania? Could they be especially rattled by the thought of being attached to the more sinky part of the possibly splitting empire?

  33. 33.

    Tonal Crow

    June 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    I rate newspapers that cave to Republican pressure “Pants-on-fire false”.

  34. 34.

    nickgb

    June 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    @chopper: It gives the campaign the basis to say “You might remember, my friend, that the Washington Post had to retract that story” any time they are asked about Bain. Not an absolute defense, but sounds very convincing as a sound bite.

  35. 35.

    ET

    June 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    They retract this story this is the final straw for me. I will do what I have been thinking of for 2 years – forever cancel my WaPo subscription. And you will catch me reading a WaPo when hell freezes over (My “list” may be short but I stick to it).

    And if I were the reporters I would all quit because the management has show the do not have your back.

  36. 36.

    gex

    June 27, 2012 at 3:00 pm

    Silly rabbit. We live in a country where the only things that are credible are the things the far right considers credible. That’s why voter fraud is a threat while disenfranchisement is not. That’s why the earth is cooling and not warming. That’s why sex ed doesn’t work but abstinence only sex ed does.

    And so on and so forth. Truth is a matter of opinion now. They’ve worked for 30 years to make it so, and they’ve won.

  37. 37.

    the Conster

    June 27, 2012 at 3:01 pm

    Whatever the WaPo does, the subject is now Bain offshoring outsourcing, and the fact that Romney doesn’t want to talk about offshoring outsourcing, because obviously offshoring outsourcing is what Bain did.

  38. 38.

    rikyrah

    June 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    I love that this means POTUS’ attacks are working .

  39. 39.

    chopper

    June 27, 2012 at 3:02 pm

    @Thoughtcrime:

    ‘dan rathering’ the story would necessitate the right wing actually giving enough of a shit about romney to run with the talking points.

  40. 40.

    BGinCHI

    June 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    Down to just three estates.

    Wither democracy?

  41. 41.

    eric

    June 27, 2012 at 3:03 pm

    @rikyrah: whoa there big fella, that would giving the near too much credit. this is evidence that Romney has to fight the affirmative action inherent in the Post’s treatment of a more deserving white candidate.

  42. 42.

    BGinCHI

    June 27, 2012 at 3:04 pm

    Big tell on this was yesterday’s interview with Sherrod Brown at TPM. Brown made it very clear that this topic is working in OH. No matter how much the beltway ignores it, this will be heard by people in battleground states.

    The good news here is that most people hurting from the economy don’t give two salty fucks about the WaPo.

  43. 43.

    shortstop

    June 27, 2012 at 3:06 pm

    @scav: No, The WP Co. is not a Murdoch enterprise–the NY Post and the WSJ are, though.

  44. 44.

    shortstop

    June 27, 2012 at 3:08 pm

    @scav: @BGinCHI: Since you’re both here, I say we form a posse this afternoon and go get Joe Berrios. He has pissed me off for the last time.

  45. 45.

    MomSense

    June 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    The Republicans are really good at working the refs. I can’t remember which “journalist” recently admitted as much the other day but apparently they are not shy about it.

    I’m thinking all of us liberal/progressive types need to start doing this a lot more.

  46. 46.

    scav

    June 27, 2012 at 3:09 pm

    @shortstop: thanks, I get confuzzled as I don’t read either the WaPo or WSJ and they instantly retreat into the WpaperIdon’tread category. Not that it was much of an excuse in the first place.

  47. 47.

    BGinCHI

    June 27, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    @shortstop: What did he do now?

  48. 48.

    BGinCHI

    June 27, 2012 at 3:10 pm

    @MomSense: No. We need better refs.

  49. 49.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    June 27, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    @fuzz:

    Being accused of having a liberal bias can be a career killer or cost revenue

    __
    Right wing bias costs revenue too. It will be a cold day in Hell before the WaPo gets any subscription money from me and I go out of my way not to throw them any crumbs of advertising clickstream hits either, and I’m in a core demographic for them. Their right wing bias is costing them money, they just don’t want to admit it. This isn’t just a financial issue, it is ideological. The WaPo is Neocon and 1%er to the core. Fuck them all, I hope the whole damm paper burns to the ground and the still-warm ashes are salted with radioactive strontium. Washington Post delenda est.

  50. 50.

    Elizabelle

    June 27, 2012 at 3:11 pm

    I couldn’t tell you what publisher Katharine Weymouth would do.

    She sure ain’t no Katharine Graham.

    If the Bain story was correct, and it likely is, the WaPost needs to stand by its guns.

    I would LOVE it if Fred Hiatt resigns in protest when the Post refuses to capitulate.

  51. 51.

    Culture of Truth

    June 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    According to POLITICO, the campaign is up in arms about the Post’s June 21st report, which depicted Bain as ” helping outsourcing companies,” that “were emerging as handmaidens” to a mass “outflow of employment.”

  52. 52.

    scav

    June 27, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    @BGinCHI: Ditto. There are soo many posses, so little time these days.

  53. 53.

    cat48

    June 27, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    So, this was all taken from SEC records. Will these be retracted?

    The Acela Corridor pundits were very, very wrong. The ads have driven down Mitt’s favorables to his Primary lows & Obama leads by 4-8 points in FL, OH, PA, & VA in new polls out in last 24hrs.

    Well done, Mr. President. Volunteer &
    donate b/c it’s far from over.

  54. 54.

    RossinDetroit

    June 27, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    @RP:

    That said, the danger here is that the complaints will have a chilling effect on the next story critical of Romney, which is the campaign’s goal, I’m sure.

    Exactly. Ronmey’s throwing an elbow. They can either take a swing at him for it or flinch the next time he fakes in their direction.
    Spoiler: it’s gonna be the latter.

  55. 55.

    Tonal Crow

    June 27, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    @MomSense: No. We need better refs.

    We do. And that won’t happen if we don’t work them, sadly to say.

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle

    June 27, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Just read the (gag) Politico link and TPM item.

    No indication that the meeting is anything BUT a meeting.

    The WaPost has done so beautifully on covering the attempted firing of the UVA president.

    Courage, Washington Post.

    Stand by your reporting.

    It’s not like Romney doesn’t have a website or funds to get his own views out.

  57. 57.

    4tehlulz

    June 27, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    Mitt Romney: Thug 4 lyfe

  58. 58.

    RossinDetroit

    June 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Apparently Biden’s been speaking about Mass. offshoring their unemployment help line call center business under Romney. That was stupid and I hope it gets wider play despite being less than $200K in business.

  59. 59.

    shortstop

    June 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    @BGinCHI: Expect your third property tax bill within nine months–jacked up considerably over the last one–to arrive this week, due August 1 instead of the usual November deadline. But taxes themselves aren’t what’s annoying me–I’m a liberal, for crying out loud. What’s burning me is how they’re set up; I am enraged at the continuing lack of TIF reform. Emanuel’s only slightly better than Daley on this point, and Quigley, the only one on the county board who cared (and he was very good on this issue), has gone to DC and can’t save us.

    But even that is not the real irker. Berrios keeps firing staff while hiring relatives, including his children, siblings and girlfriends, and today he basically waved his ass at the suggestion that the ethics commission can do anything about it. I can take a reasonable amount of graft and corruption and maintain my urban ennui, but this is beyond the pale. Sometimes living in this town just wears me out.

  60. 60.

    Culture of Truth

    June 27, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    Breaking: Although no suit has yet been filed Scalia issued an injunction barring the Post from referring to Romney except as “the magnificient” or “his awesomeness”

  61. 61.

    MomSense

    June 27, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    @BGinChi

    Yes we do need better refs. The whole damned game needs to be changed too. There is not time before Nov 6th to fire all the refs and make fair rules for the game so I am thinking we should at least start now by trying to compete with our opponent and not forfeiting.

  62. 62.

    Davis X. Machina

    June 27, 2012 at 3:19 pm

    Company paper in a one-industry town.

    It’s like reading the old newspaper from Millinocket/East Millinocket.

  63. 63.

    Tonal Crow

    June 27, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    Breaking: Although no suit has yet been filed Scalia issued an injunction barring the Post from referring to Romney except as “the magnificient” or “his awesomeness”

    Sounds about right.

  64. 64.

    WeeBey

    June 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    It’s working.

  65. 65.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    June 27, 2012 at 3:21 pm

    @cat48:
    Stupid general question: Are these ads being run by the Obama campaign directly, or by one of the PACs?

    I’ve been wondering if donating money to the PAC might actually be more effective, dollar-for-dollar.

  66. 66.

    redshirt

    June 27, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Mills!

  67. 67.

    The Snarxist Formerly Known as Kryptik

    June 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    If they go ahead with this, I don’t see how they have any credibility anymore with anyone outside of the far right:

    Doug, they haven’t even hidden the fact that they tapdance to every single complaint of “GODLESS LIBRUL RAG!” they get, to the point of Obmudsmen saying outright ‘we should follow the stories Glenn Beck and company do, since those are the REAL stories!’

    They keep doing this, and they just get kicked in the teeth more and screamed at more for being Anti-American Librul Godhaters, except now the threshold to NOT be that has suddenly shifted way way to the right. They’ll NEVER have credibility with the far right, but god help them if they’ll ever think ‘God, we keep doing all we can to please these people and all they do is hate us more, maybe we should not cater to these guys’. Because there’s no political price to naked conservative bias, but there is for perceived librul bias.

  68. 68.

    Tokyokie

    June 27, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    Although I’ll cop to being snarky earlier in this thread, my guess is that the Romney campaign demanded a retraction and wasn’t going to be mollified by having some WaPo higher-up tell it over the phone that it was standing by its story. So they’re giving them a meeting, under the mistaken impression that will ease the Romney campaign butthurt. Hearing Mitt’s surrogates bitch about not even getting a meeting doesn’t strike me as appreciably worse than hearing them bitch about not getting the retraction they’re demanding. And yeah, it’s working the refs, letting ever reporter and line editor at the place know that they can expect this kind of reaction whenever the paper dares to question the unquestionable greatness of the Marquis des Mittens.

    Oh, and the only reason we know about this meeting is because the Romney campaign leaked the information to the WaPo’s competitors. So there’s that.

    But if the WaPo does retract the story, the paper should just shut down. It’s either shoddy work in the first place or incredible cowardice after the fact, and neither speaks well of the joint.

  69. 69.

    MomSense

    June 27, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    I plan to call their number and sweet talk the receptionist for Exec Editor and managing editors voice mail boxes.
    I am also still mad that the piece about the health care clinic was cut because they thought it was too political. Yeah because seeing the consequences of the let poor people die mentality is too political–not immoral and a national disgrace-just too political.
    Here are the numbers to the switchboard.

    202-334-6000
    800-627-1150
    Here is the link to email the editors.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ask-the-post/post/how-to-contact-the-post-newsroom/2011/11/17/gIQAd0WJlN_blog.html

  70. 70.

    chopper

    June 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    @RossinDetroit:

    less than 200k? that’s just great. nothing too small to outsource, eh mittens?

  71. 71.

    MikeJ

    June 27, 2012 at 3:29 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God: Give to the campaign. After you’ve maxed out then go to the PACs. The campaign needs to have the flexibility the money gives them. Your first 5k will do far more good with the official committee. After that, pick a PAC that seems to be getting results.

  72. 72.

    RossinDetroit

    June 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    If they go ahead with this, I don’t see how they have any credibility anymore with anyone outside of the far right:

    Actually there is a way: they take the meeting, listen to Mitt’s people whine and just say “Nice suit. Show me the back of it headed out the door.” But that’s just in my dreams.

  73. 73.

    chopper

    June 27, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    @WeeBey:

    romney’s internal polling in PA and OH must be scaring the piss out of them if they’re complaining so blatantly to the media.

  74. 74.

    D0n Camillo

    June 27, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:
    If Romney were to become president, the whole country would be one giant Millinocket by the time he and the GOP were done.

  75. 75.

    BGinCHI

    June 27, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    @shortstop: Fucking Illinois Nazis.

    I assume that if Rahm gets a lot of bad press he’ll just take Berrios down the tracks and shoot him in his knees.

  76. 76.

    General Stuck

    June 27, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    Obambi shipped jobs to Kansas, so there’s that little factoid. The Romneytrons will have to argue that Sri Lanka really is like being in Kansas anymore.

  77. 77.

    Elizabelle

    June 27, 2012 at 3:41 pm

    from the WaPost:

    Rachel Weiner blogpost on how the Bain Ads are working.

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:

    re your question about donating directly to SuperPACs:

    Attitudes about Romney’s business background, a target of numerous ads run by the pro-Obama Priorities USA Action super PAC, are more negative in swing states.

    Weiner on overall spending:

    Pro-Obama groups are spending a little over $9 million this week while pro-Romney groups are spending about $12 million.
    __
    Notably, however, is that the bulk of the Democratic spending comes from Obama himself, whose campaign is spending nearly $8 million on ads this week. The rest comes from Priorities USA Action, which is spending about $1.2 million.
    __
    Romney’s campaign, on the other hand is spending a little under $3 million on ads while the rest of the GOP spending is spread out among a multitude of outside groups.

  78. 78.

    gwangung

    June 27, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    Because there’s no political price to naked conservative bias, but there is for perceived librul bias.

    Which is why calling for better refs is useless without getting our hands dirty and either removing the price for a liberal bias or having a price of a conservative bias.

  79. 79.

    JPL

    June 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    This is the correction I want the Post to run…
    During his time at Bain Capital and as Governor of Massachusetts, Romney outsourced and offshored jobs.
    This should satisfy the campaign..
    (lol)

  80. 80.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I thought the best line of today was Biden’s. Two guys in an unemployment line and one says to the other “so were you outsourced or offshored?” Like anyone who is unemployed right now is going to give a rats arse which one it was.

  81. 81.

    Elizabelle

    June 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    I’d take Obama’s vs. Romney’s word cloud any day.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/what-people-think-of-obama-and-romney–in-4-word-clouds/2012/06/27/gJQAn4cC7V_blog.html

  82. 82.

    Soonergrunt

    June 27, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    Apparently, somebody at WaPo has grown a spine.
    From Talking Points Memo:

    The meeting’s wrapped and the Washington Post’s brass apparently told Team Romney: Talk to the hand. From the Post’s spokesperson Kris Coratti: “We are very confident in our reporting.”

  83. 83.

    Dave

    June 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Latest tweet from Michael Calderone (HuffPo):

    Asked about meeting with Romney camp, WaPo spox responds: “We are confident in our reporting.

    That sounds good.

  84. 84.

    geg6

    June 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    To their credit, the WaPo told the Rmoney team to take a hike:

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/06/wapo_shuts_down_team_romney.php?ref=fpblg

    Edit: Damn. Beaten to the punch. Twice.

  85. 85.

    General Stuck

    June 27, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Of course the Bain attacks are working. It’s like driving stakes made of peasant angst straight through Romney’s missing heart.

  86. 86.

    BGinCHI

    June 27, 2012 at 3:46 pm

    @Soonergrunt: Just saw that. Now if they announce they are firing some op-ed writers we’d be talking real money.

  87. 87.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 27, 2012 at 3:48 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Heilman (I think it was) pointed this out on MJ this morning and said what a problem it was. He opined that as the majority of ads on the Obama side are being run by Obama’s campaign there was a cohesive message. On the other side it is all over the place because the ads are being run by half a dozen different organizations and they can’t agree on a strategy. I hope he is right.

  88. 88.

    Hill Dweller

    June 27, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Biden has been devastatingly effective on the stump for the last couple of months. Thankfully people are starting to notice.

  89. 89.

    Mike in NC

    June 27, 2012 at 3:49 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    Scalia issued an injunction barring the Post from referring to Romney except as “the magnificient” or “his awesomeness”

    “The Sun King” has been available for some time now.

  90. 90.

    trollhattan

    June 27, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    Via Edroso, here’s a Bidnez Week article on the current state of outsourcing. Now that they’ve discarded the American blue collar middle class, they’re going after the whities (collars, that is). (Sure enough, an HR officer friend’s company opened offices in Hyderabad and Poland whilst simultaneously laying off folks stateside and cutting salaries and bonuses.)

    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-03-15/outsourcing-a-passage-out-of-india

  91. 91.

    Tonal Crow

    June 27, 2012 at 3:52 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: That’s great! Finally, some powerful rhetoric from Team Obama! Got a link?

  92. 92.

    MikeJ

    June 27, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @RossinDetroit:

    Apparently Biden’s been speaking about Mass. offshoring their unemployment help line call center business under Romney. That was stupid and I hope it gets wider play despite being less than $200K in business.

    Do you remember the howls of outrage that Airbus might get a contract over Boeing? Remember the “why is the government giving money to foreigners” cry? Seems like an appropriate place to bring that back.

  93. 93.

    Rhoda

    June 27, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    This was a bullshit move on the Romney campaign’s part. They know the oppo out there on their candidate; they obviously haven’t gotten it together to have a response and they failed to shame Team Obama into stopping as they did Newt in the primaries. And now, they have blood on their face w/that NBC poll that will quite the horse race folks who can see point blank this is working.

    Also, why did they only go after the Washington Post? The Boston Globe and New York Times wrote stories ; it was a one-two-three punch they took last weekend.

    And I doubt that another paper is going to refuse oppo that is solid on them b/c they cry.

  94. 94.

    beltane

    June 27, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    Romney DENIED! http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/27/1103626/-Romney-campaign-seeks-retraction-of-Washington-Post-outsourcing-story-that-it-originally-stonewalled#20120627125117

  95. 95.

    shortstop

    June 27, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    @Mike in NC: That made me snort with glee.

  96. 96.

    Alexandra

    June 27, 2012 at 3:59 pm

    Perhaps instead of a meeting, they should have driven a campaign bus, honking its horn, around the WaPo’s building.

  97. 97.

    HelpThe99ers

    June 27, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    The Washington Post will not retract their June 21 report about Bain Capital’s investments in firms that specialized in outsourcing American jobs, POLITICO has learned.

    source: POLITICO

    insert Nelson laugh here.

  98. 98.

    Cluttered Mind

    June 27, 2012 at 4:00 pm

    @Hill Dweller: Biden is always effective on the stump. He’s an amazingly charismatic man who speaks from the heart and almost always knows what he’s talking about. The characterization of him as a gaffe factory has no more basis in fact than the characterization of Al Gore as a serial embellisher. Yes, Biden has less of a filter between his brain and his mouth than some other politicians do. I don’t see that as a negative, it just means he is more likely to say what he actually believes and feels. We could do far, FAR worse than President Biden in 2016.

  99. 99.

    trollhattan

    June 27, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @Cluttered Mind:

    VP Joe’s Memorial Day speech was an amazing thing.

  100. 100.

    Brachiator

    June 27, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    @HelpThe99ers:

    RE: The Washington Post will not retract their June 21 report about Bain Capital’s investments in firms that specialized in outsourcing American jobs, POLITICO has learned.

    So, now, Romney has two options. He can continue the standard GOP rant about the librul media.

    Or he can buy the WaPo. I’m sure he has the money for it.

  101. 101.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    June 27, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    @Alexandra:

    Ha! That there comment is fulla teh win.

  102. 102.

    Maude

    June 27, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    The Washington Post had no obligation to meet with Romney people.
    They had the story down and it was accurate.
    Remember when Obama said something about not being interested in the 24 hour news cycles?
    It takes time for information to sink in on a large scale.

  103. 103.

    dmsilev

    June 27, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Alexandra:

    Perhaps instead of a meeting, they should have driven a campaign bus, honking its horn, around the WaPo’s building.

    I see Romney starring in a remake of “Say Anything”, standing outside the White House holding an iPod over his head.

  104. 104.

    cat48

    June 27, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:

    They’ve been run by both. If the PAC has no money, Obama runs them.

  105. 105.

    Thoughtcrime

    June 27, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Great tweet on the refusal to retract:

    BREAKING: Romney campaign convinces the Washington Post to confirm that he’s an outsourcing pioneer, for the second time. #nicework
    — @LOLGOP via TweetDeck

  106. 106.

    scav

    June 27, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Oh dear. Does the narrative of a horse race mean that our little pony doesn’t get everything his own way? What a two-edged sword that proved to be.

  107. 107.

    Tokyokie

    June 27, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Also, I believe that the third-party expenditures are structured in a way that scumbag consultants can claim a bigger slice of them. They’re often paid a percentage of the ad buy, so count on them to use the most expensive campaign strategies (i.e., TV ads) rather than the most effective ones (such as ground-level organizing).

    @Rhoda: They went after the softest target first.

  108. 108.

    WeeBey

    June 27, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @chopper:

    Oh, my, yes.

  109. 109.

    HelpThe99ers

    June 27, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    @dmsilev: Ask, and you shall receive (almost):

    http://crooksandliars.com/files/vfs/2012/03/romney%20say%20anything.jpg

  110. 110.

    Ash Can

    June 27, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Update.

    Hooray. There’s some good at that rag yet. Freddie must have gone golfing after lunch and left some actual journalists in charge.

  111. 111.

    Horrendo Slapp (formerly Jimperson Zibb, Duncan Dönitz, Otto Graf von Pfmidtnöchtler-Pízsmőgy, Mumphrey, et al.)

    June 27, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    I’m glad they stuck with their story, but I’m still pissed off that they even let Rmoney’s campaign come in and ask them to take it all back.

    Maybe that’s what we liberals should be doing: When some establishment news outlet takes this kind of complaint seriously, even if they don’t back down, we should be screaming that they damned well ought to be strong-willed enough to tell whatever pissy Republican is whining about their coverage to fuck off. Republicans sure don’t let anybody get away with even talking to Democrats; they raise hell as a matter of course. And, hey, what do you know, it works! Maybe we should try this, ourselves.

  112. 112.

    Ash Can

    June 27, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    PS: Wouldn’t you love to have been a fly on the wall at that meeting? Or, better yet, at the post-meeting discussion? (“Do you believe that prick?”)

  113. 113.

    catclub

    June 27, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @The Red Pen: I agree with this to some extent. The fact that we are hearing about the discussion is news. Remember when the NYT sat on a story (I think it was Bush admin NSA spying on everything on the internet) and we did not hear about it for a year?

    That is what happens when serious people have a discussion with the editors. We hear nothing. So this is progress.

  114. 114.

    mclaren

    June 27, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    Next up: Mitt buys the WaPo and sacks all the reporters and replaces ’em with Fox News hacks.

  115. 115.

    ET

    June 27, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    They may have done the right thing this time but if anyone from the WaPo reads these comments (which I doubt) – they are still on notice. They are walking a fine line with me and I don’t know that it will take much to push me over.

  116. 116.

    DougJ

    June 27, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @Alexandra:

    Ha ha.

  117. 117.

    Linda Featheringill

    June 27, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    Somewhat OT:

    Apparently Cantor, up for reelection as a Representative, is vulnerable. How nice.

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/06/27/1103575/-Thanks-to-anti-women-policies-Eric-Cantor-vulnerable-in-district

  118. 118.

    Cluttered Mind

    June 27, 2012 at 4:45 pm

    @mclaren: Yeah, I can only imagine how bad the WaPo would be if they started publishing total lying hacks like Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Jennifer Rubin, Marc Thiessen….wait a minute…

  119. 119.

    trollhattan

    June 27, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    A certain editorial board is so not getting invites to the next Stateside dressage competition.

    Speaking of, from the once a grifter, always a grifter files, Ann Romney sold a drugged, defective horse for $125k.

    I’m certain she blamed it “on the help.”

  120. 120.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 27, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    If WAPO had retracted its story, I would have to cancel my subscription. Has Obama’s team ever met with any news organiation to get a story retracted?

    Romney is one creepy dude.

  121. 121.

    Cluttered Mind

    June 27, 2012 at 5:20 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: I don’t think Obama could do such a thing. All the places that are printing stories that deserve to be retracted about him are places where he’d be shot on sight if he showed up.

  122. 122.

    chopper

    June 27, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    WaPo spox responds: “We are confident in our reporting.”

    first time for everything.

  123. 123.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 27, 2012 at 6:03 pm

    I’m happy with the outcome, but it would have been even better if they sent the heads of the Rmoney reps back to OvenMitt on hors d’oeuvre trays.

  124. 124.

    Nellcote

    June 27, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    @Thoughtcrime:

    BREAKING: Romney campaign convinces the Washington Post to confirm that he’s an outsourcing pioneer, for the second time. #nicework
    — @LOLGOP via TweetDeck

    This is one of those times I wish this blog had a thumbsup/like button!

    BTW LOLGOP is constantly delightful on Twitter.

  125. 125.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 27, 2012 at 6:16 pm

    Wonder if the Washington Post will report on the meeting with the Romney campaign staffers. Would love to hear how it unfolded. How much ego do you have to have to feel that you can demand that a news organization retract a TRUTHFUL story just because it hurts your feelings? What will a President Romney do about such stories?

  126. 126.

    Cluttered Mind

    June 27, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: He’ll fire the people who write them and send their jobs overseas is my guess.

  127. 127.

    Joel

    June 27, 2012 at 6:31 pm

    No one has mentioned the Streisand effect?

  128. 128.

    Wiesman

    June 27, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    Your honor, I strenuously object.

    http://somedisagree.com/2012/06/27/your-honor-i-strenuously-object/

    Awesome bit of fail by Romney campaign.

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