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It’s good to have back-up plans. The wingnuts have a major sad over Health Care, but House Republicans have planned a small ray of hope for their fellow travelers. They have decided that today will be the day that they vote to hold Eric Holder in contempt of Congress for failing to give them non-existent documents to help “prove” a non-existent scandal concerning events that never actually happened.
The Holder contempt vote is just a Congressional lynching designed to feed red meat to the wingnut base–at the hour of their tears.
I suspect that a little racism is involved, but saying that out load would really hurt their feelings, so let’s just name it a vote motivated by an irrational hatred of President Obama and leave it at that. So naturally, all Republican will vote for it along with a handful of cowards with a (D) after their names.
What a bunch of assholes.
The contemptible, lowest-rated legislative body in American history holds you in contempt?
I’d say you must be doing something right.
Obama should give Holder a raise. I think a Rose Garden ceremony to announce it ought to do.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
“He’s all over the place! Nine hundred feet up to 1300 feet. What an asshole!”
“So naturally, all Republican will vote for it along with a handful of cowards with a (D) after their names.”
I believe this if termed “bipartisan” in the current vernacular.
So naturally, all Republican will vote for it along with a handful of cowards with a (D) after their names.
And the DCCC is funneling cash to that handful of cowards. Just sayin’. Those are the kind of people you support if you give money to the DCCC.
This Congress has LOSER written all over it.
I am not sure “bunch of assholes” is the proper term for a collection thereof. Grapes should be insulted.
@BGinCHI: My thinking precisely. Surely all sensible persons are contemptuous of the current Congress.
So beyond giving the wingnuts something else to do besides sticking pins in their newly-acquired John Roberts voodoo dolls, what exactly is the point of this vote?
c u n d gulag
Poor feckin’ idjiotic “morans.”
They were hoping the SC would give them a bright and shining object on ACA.
And their hopes of mocking Liberals and Progressives were dashed.
But hey, look over there!
They’re going to lynch a black man over there!
See, even the darkest day has a ray of sunshine for you assholes.
As long as you have morons like Issa in a position of power, he can turn reality on its head, and make F&F something fools like you can jack-off to in between Cheeto’s and glugs of Mountain Dew.
Don’t expect anything, though.
Your hero, W, set the precedent for “Executive Privilege” – and how AG Holder can basically stay home, and tell all y’all to shove it up your fat, moronic, asses!!!
First – Bush’s boy Roberts feck’s all y’all.
Then, Obama will continue to use Bush’s and Rove’s “tactics.”
Oh well – NOT such a day for all y’all.
Soon, “the 1%” will be Congress’s approval rating.
It’s actually an impeachment gambit aimed at Obama. They’ll try the contempt thing, then insist on a special prosecutor, and view anything less than total capitulation by Obama as evidence of something nefarious.
That any Democrats signed on for this, especially in an election year, especially given the blatant political hackery on the part of the GOP, is sad evidence of (typical?) Democratic Party disunity, and an inablility of the leadership to enforce order at crucial times.
“No, I’m trying to hide it.”
This from the ‘patriots’ who pressed impeachment of President Clinton for lying about getting a hummer from a woman who wasn’t his wife.
Yes these are fine upstanding Americans. Yes they are.
OT for the thread (but not the day):
The wingnut that sits behind be at work had to leave they were so upset.
I could be wrong, but I don’t any D’s evil will vote to hold Holder in contempt. Not due to principle or courage or anything like that, but simply because the Fortune article makes the whole thing look idiotic.
Oh, wait, we have idiots in our party too. Never mind …
Except that it’s becoming increasingly clear that neither Obama nor Holder has done anything wrong whatsoever. So there will be nothing at all for a special prosecutor to find.
At least Clinton DID get blow jobs and he did more or less lie about them under oath. Whether it actually was constitutional to depose a sitting president in a civil case (thank you, Supreme Court!) or that not being entirely candid in that deposition was an impeachable offense I leave as an exercise for the reader.
@Brachiator: Once the NRA decided to score the vote, some Dem votes were all but guaranteed. That said, they’re still cowards.
@gelfling545: 87% or so I think. It’s not even close to being a fair fight….
F’in CNN, all they wanna talk about is how the O’man broke his tax promise.
Then the same CNN idiot takes a quote from the south Carolina solicit general to try and piss off a guest who is there to talk about how her daughter won’t get dropped from her Heath care due to exceeding her lifetime benefits. The guest told the CNN host that the sg from sc must not have heard the ruling so his point really isn’t a point.
What an evil witch
By the way, those cowardly Dems are trying to hold their seats in red-leaning districts.
Normal wingnuts would be chastened a tad, after the great SCOTUS betrayal. These wingnuts will throw a picnic after the hi tech lynching in the peoples house.
@Lee: That is delicious.
Type that again, but slower.
It will look like the House Repubs are pulling a Full Metal Scalia Hissy Fit over losing on ACA. They will look petty and small…the news will be this huge “ACA Upheld, Huge Victory for Obama!” And then “house republicans vote to censure Holder, and no one cares.”
You’re right, but then what do assholes come in? A bevy of assholes? A quarrel of assholes? A throng? A thong?
I kind of like the idea of the GOP being called a “thong of assholes”.
@Julia Grey: Issa has admitted there is no evidence Obama nor Holder was involved with F&F.
This is the NRA protecting gun dealers. Once the evidence gets out, and the public gets wind of 18 year olds buying guns legally for Mexican drug gangs, they’re going to want new laws. Stricter laws means less money for the gun manufacturers/dealers.
A clench of assholes sounds about right.
So you’re saying this is all part of Obama’s conspiracy to take away our guns ;)
The Moar You Know
Winners get to go home and fuck the prom queen after the Big Game.
Losers get to sit and file toothless “contempt of Congress” motions against the Attorney General.
I assume tricorner hats and poorly spelled signs will make an appearance as well.
Does the House just do all this so that South Park will have plotlines?
” Issa has admitted there is no evidence Obama nor Holder was involved with F&F. ”
Yeah, a few days after Issa appeared on Fox News talking up nonsense about the program was a sinister plot to destroy the second amendment.
They need to hold the vote right quick away to make a big stink that will distract from Issa’s BS blowing up in their faces.
Issa has produced nothing, after all his promises.
Gin & Tonic
@Hill Dweller: Bingo!
Okay, I can go with that. Do we have a second?
The Moar You Know
@Brachiator: One problem with that. Car Thief fucked up. Isaa already issued a finding of fact that the White House was not involved, before this got as big as it did.
As much as he’d like to, he can’t walk that back.
No impeachment of the president can result from this.
@The Moar You Know:
Fixed in case Yutsano and others drop by today.
This is a full service blog.
When wingnuts see the feds unable to arrest brown people buying guns it is not viewed as a failure of gun laws, it’s viewed as a failure of laws allowing the arrest of brown people.
I know about the NRA, but so does the Democratic Party leadership. It’s possible that the leadership kept defections to a minimum, but the bottom line is that the GOP is better at keeping their sheep from crossing the aisle.
And the fact that the ultimate goal is to get Obama, not just slime Holder, still speaks to the cowardice of the defectors and some weakness on the part of Dem leaders.
It’s understandable, but it’s still a sad fact of the current political landscape.
Well, I googled “collective noun for asshole”:
a gingrich of assholes
an assembly of assholes
an a-list of assholes
a fistfull of assholes
a golfcourse of assholes
a bihari of assholes
a sphincter of assholes
a pack of assholes
@The Moar You Know:
Remember, it’s not the crime, it’s the cover up.
Even though there is no crime here, the idea is to get Obama to stumble over the issue of not turning over documents and seeking to “protect” Holder.
I don’t think this works, based on the 2010 elections. The Blue Dogs got pantsed and swirlied and stuffed in lockers. You can’t try to cave on gooper ideological stuff and expect it to help. You’ll piss off the leftier D’s, you won’t convince any of the R’s since they can just vote for an R who will do the same damn thing more reliably.
You can try constituent service: the R’s may not like some of your ideological votes too much, but might approve of the roads being resurfaced or, gasp, some properly allocated pork. Or you can just stand up for what you believe in and try to convince people of that: it might work a few times out of a hundred, who knows.
Holder should declare the whole thing “a high-tech lynching of uppity blacks.”
@The Moar You Know: “My wife was prom queen.”
The Moar You Know
@Lee: The sobbing, alternating with the yelling on the phone, from the front office where our office wingnut dwells was too much (and was making everyone else here really uncomfortable) so I sent her home and told her not to return until she could comport herself in a civilized manner. She started to say something, then stopped, which was the first smart thing she’s done all day. She’s really good at what she does, but any more of that crap and we start the road to Terminationville.
Dennis G — I guess I admire your ability to move forward with predictions even after your comparison of CJ Roberts to CJ Taney didn’t work out so well.
I haven’t been following this so-called “scandal,” and I’m confident that it’s a bunch of crap cooked-up by shithead Republicans in an attempt to cause problems for Obama. But your one-note insistence that every opposition to Obama is somehow rooted in racism is both tiresome and, IMHO, flat-out wrong. Although the Republicans haven’t cooperated with Obama at all, the truth is that Clinton received a lot worse personal attacks than Obama has.
Seems like bizarre timing. The contempt vote is sheer political grandstanding, but they scheduled it for a day when the SCOTUS case was going to suck all the oxygen out of the room.
Rand Paul today:
@The Moar You Know:
Holy shit, that is sadder than a basket of drowned kittens.
Maybe this can be a wake-up call for her that her wingnut politics aren’t healthy for her career, or her blood pressure.
Nah, she’ll just blame Obama. Simpler that way.
@JGabriel: A grouping = a Pucker of assholes.
@Peter: I think they were looking at it as the extra point on the day.
Instead, it looks like Holder’s their consolation prize. Or blood sacrifice, if you prefer.
@Lee: No way, now you’re just taunting me with delicious tales of wingnut misery. Pix or it didn’t happen.
@The Moar You Know: You know who else put people on the road to Terminationville.
@Tom Q: Even on that assumption, though, nobody would notice it with the SCOTUS thing front and center. It would make much more sense to schedule it for a few days from now, when the SCOTUS thing had died down and there was a vacuum for a new ‘Obama on the run!’ story to fill.
Members of Dem caucus walking out of vote to hold Holder in contempt.
So far 15 Democrats voted yay. Can’t wait to see who these bastards are.
You’d have a better case if Republicans weren’t in the habit of literally screaming “Lynch Holder!” at their rallies.
@JGabriel: I;m sorry to say I don’t know the collective term in this case but it does remind me of my all time favorite – a congress of baboons.
I don’t get it either, unless Issa’s actually trying to bury the whole damn thing. Either way, all the oxygen in the room was going to be sucked up at this point.
Looks like 17 yea’s from Democrats, 65 nays and 108 no-votes.
@Jonny Scrum-half: The comparison to Taney still stand. Roberts let Health Care stand because the mandate was basically a conservative health care policy birthed by the Heritage Foundation. Obama derangement syndrome had the wingnuts in an uproar against their own plan, but Roberts is playing a longer game. On the larger constitutional questions concerning the Commerce clause and the powers of the Federal government, Roberts was very much following the Taney legacy.
He now has a foundation to overturn new deal to new society legislation all the while claiming to be an honest broker because he decide that health care reform wasn’t really worth going the full crazy and ending his legitimacy. I expect that he’ll save that for next term.
ps: your modern Republican party is motivated by a belief that white exceptionalism is the only thing that matters. It is the only policy note they ever play. Take it away and they’ve got nothing. I’m sorry if that reality hurts your feelings. So it goes
@The Moar You Know: And it should be noted that Michelle Obama was prom queen.
It should also be noted that Matt Santos character on West Wing was based on Obama:
I don’t think Obama is due to be in Cleveland until next week, though.
@Bnut: Curious who the 2 Republican nay votes were
calling congress a bunch of assholes is an insult to pig anus. which is really good in a sandwich.
@Groucho48: I was thinking a puckering of assholes.
@Bnut: how do we find out which Dems voted yay?
The Congressional Black Caucus, and the Democratic Leadership, and probably other Dems have walked out of the House of Representatives prior to the Contempt vote.
Just now. MSNBC is live streaming the press conference they are holding on the Capitol lawn.
@lamh35: I don’t know how long it takes for voting records to be posted. I would imagine within the hour.
The Moar You Know
@Brian R.: Wouldn’t happen and I wouldn’t ask that of any of my people. Frankly, I get the upset; they’ve just lost it all. Obama gets four more years and they get nothing. Kinda like how I felt when Kerry lost in 2004.
I do insist that employees keep their personal issues out of the office, whatever they may be, and if they can’t do that then they need to be working somewhere else, because none of us has the time or energy to deal with drama.
@BGinCHI: Yep. It speaks poorly of Romney’s “business skills” that terminating employees is the first and usually only tool in his toolbox.
a rhoid of assholes?
@Lee: Wow, really? I’m not sure they’re gonna have the intestinal fortitude to Go Galt!
@The Moar You Know: I meant Hitler, but I can see the mixup.
My vote is for a taint of assholes.
As for the timing, Issa et al. probably thought (along with the rest of us) that the ACA would be overturned, and so this vote would be piling on the poor hapless socialist usurper.
Best laid plans and all…
Atty Gen Holder speaking statement on CNN now.
@lamh35: Well, some of us are in offices w/o TVs, so if you would please ….
A fisting of assholes?
I’d modify that to say white MALE exceptionalism.
Shorter Holder’s statement: I SHALL NOT BE MOVED!
Eric Holder’s Statement on Contempt Vote
@The Moar You Know:
I didn’t mean you should fire her or anything, but Jesus, when you take politics so seriously that you’re losing your shit at the office over a Supreme Court decision, that would seem to be a good sign that you need to fucking re-evaluate your priorities in life.
Not lynching. Please don’t compare it to lynching.
McCarthyism? Okay. Suggesting he’s on Issa’s “enemies list”? Cool. Comparing it to wanton extrajudicial murder done for trivial reasons with (or even without) a paucity of evidence? Not cool.
@LongHairedWeirdo: I dunno…Congress is going after a black man directly and another by proxy because they’re perceived as “uppity”, and don’t understand they’re not supposed to do things like get elected president. There’s absolutely no evidence, and no reason that’s not grounded in racism.
Lynching is only an inappropriate analogy because in 2012, they can’t actually kill Holder and Obama. Some of them have made it abundantly clear that they’d like to rectify that.
Evolving Deep Southerner
@JGabriel: I know that a group of larks is called an exaltation. A “pride” of assholes is wrong on a lot of levels.
A menagerie of assholes? Herd?
@Dennis G.: Your opinion of the Modern Republican Party doesn’t hurt my feelings. I think they’ve gone off the deep end. I just don’t see racism as the source of the problem (although I’m not going to deny that the Republican Party is the party-of-choice if you’re a White racist).
Regarding Roberts/Taney, your explanation means that you were “right” no matter how Roberts voted, or how the decision came out. Interesting intellectual gymnastics, but I don’t think it’s a fair argument.
Atwater: As to the whole Southern strategy that Harry S. Dent, Sr. and others put together in 1968, opposition to the Voting Rights Act would have been a central part of keeping the South. Now [the new Southern Strategy of Ronald Reagan] doesn’t have to do that. All you have to do to keep the South is for Reagan to run in place on the issues he’s campaigned on since 1964 and that’s fiscal conservatism, balancing the budget, cut taxes, you know, the whole cluster.
Questioner: But the fact is, isn’t it, that Reagan does get to the Wallace voter and to the racist side of the Wallace voter by doing away with legal services, by cutting down on food stamps?
Atwater: You start out in 1954 by saying, “Nigger, nigger, nigger.” By 1968 you can’t say “nigger” — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states’ rights and all that stuff. You’re getting so abstract now [that] you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I’m not saying that. But I’m saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the racial problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “Nigger, nigger.”
Nope, no racism here, just fiscal conservatism.
@Mnemosyne: That’s another interesting piece of mental gymnastics. According to you, because of what Atwater said, anyone who advocates fiscal conservatism is racist, by definition. As I said to Dennis G, you’re entitled to your opinion, but I don’t think that’s a fair argument.
The Other Chuck
An Issa of Assholes
Guys. Take notes on how you win loyalty from African Americans.
@Jonny Scrum-half: You’re entitled to your opinion, but I, as a non-white type of person with different stakes being held, see things lot differently in the context of things.
Sounds like Volume 12 of Game of Thrones.
It is time that the military takes over, tries hussein, holder, polisi, the most of congress, the traitors on the U.S. Supreme Court, etc…. for treason, apply quick and swift justice, and have those that factually believe in and follow the Constitution start the government over. And do so with the aide of those who uphold the 2nd Amendment, who and are wiliing to assist in defending the Constitution and America from all enemies, including those from within.
As a veteran, having served in Law Enforcement while therein, and sworn to uphold the Constitution above all else, having the U.S. military and real American citizens
taking over, by force, from those now in power whom are bent on making this great country in to a commie/socialist
state, is most like as I see it, the only course open whereby to stop them and doing in a final and complete manner.
U.S. Born American Veteran
Sarah, Proud and Tall
Cool story, bro.
@JG: So you wanna go totally outside the Constitution to defend the Constitution. Riiiight.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
You’re so silly. The Constitution says that armed men have to take over and shoot people if they don’t like the policies of a particular government. It’s there in Section Pulled-it-out-of-my-arse.
Sarah, Proud and Tall
@Evolving Deep Southerner:
@Sarah, Proud and Tall:
You are much more versed in the wingnut Constitution than I am hon.