Mitt Romney is airing a new ad that is a big old lie, and uses footage of a Hillary Clinton ad from the 2008 primaries which says to the Obama campaign “Shame on You.”
It’s a bullshit ad and the Romney campaign knows it’s a bullshit ad, but unsurprisingly, they ran with it anyway.
I’m beginning to think that the Romney campaign is taking its cues from the Tracy Flick campaign.
JPL
I didn’t watch the ad but it seems odd to use the current Secretary of State for the Obama administration against him.
Maybe it will stir feelings among the puma’s but most people will just shake their heads.
AA+ Bonds
They are trying to get this embedded early before Dem groups can answer back with “So did Mitt lie about not raising taxes in Mass.?”
Expect this particular line on the reform act to go quiet before the debates. It doesn’t help anyone except Mitt’s campaign for the week or so before the Obama response propagates.
eric
all politicians lie. that is not gonna stick to Obama and it is what makes Mitt so confident that his own blatant lying will go unchallenged in the media. Most people here charges of lying as white noise.
Bulworth
Pick Flick!
jacy
I loved that movie entirely too much.
Villago Delenda Est
Apparently, these idiots have Mark Penn as a consultant.
Redshift
@AA+ Bonds: The thing I find really bizarre is how anti-tax orthodoxy has led Republicans at all levels to believe that the distinction between a tax and a fee is really important. They seem convinced this it’s really clever — yes, you’re paying more, but I didn’t break my pledge not to raise taxes!
Is there anyone who isn’t already a hardcore Republican who cares what it’s called when you have to give money to the government?
The Dangerman
Entirely OT, speaking of shame on me, can I go see “Magic Mike” as a straight man?
MattF
Unsurprising, and unsurprisingly unsurprising. The thing to bear in mind here is that Mitt is personally running his campaign. What you are seeing is what you are getting. He hired staff who do as they are told. If they are told “tell a lie”, well, that’s the job, and that’s how Daddy runs his campaign.
Rommie
Yes, let’s give Hillary Clinton the opening to get involved without being unseemly. Go Go, Wile E. Coyote, Go Go!
PonB
Cue the banshee wail! Well-played reference!
– PonB
Litlebritdifrnt
I would have thought that they would not want to go there. How long will it take the Obama campaign to put together an ad with all of Romney’s rivals talking shit about him during the primary? About ten minutes tops?
scav
If you’re running on a platform where you basically want to do a roll-back to the Pre-Enlightenment, I guess as some point you have to start rolling back the footage. Next ads won’t even be talkies but a little organ will rise up out of your living room floor and play ragtime.
NonyNony
@Litlebritdifrnt:
Ah, but who would an ad showing Herman Cain, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul talking smack about Mitt convince of anything? Hell an ad like that might backfire “If Newt Gingrich thinks he’s a terrible human being he probably deserves the Nobel Prize!”
Low risk, high reward. Lots of people respect Clinton even among the mushy moderates. Few of them actually know who Rick Santorum is (and many would probably be shocked that with a last name like that he’s able to even be in politics – do you know what it means?)
rikyrah
they have a shyt candidate.
they have no reason for you to vote FOR Willard.
they can only tell you to vote against that Black Black Blackedity Black Black Soshulist Mooslum.
in the swing states, the economy is getting better.
and their last talking point bit the dust yesterday, 5-4.
Willard looked like a fool yesterday…more than usual.
Steve
The 4 people in America who still think the 2008 primary is relevant are really gonna be upset by this.
elisabeth
Romney camp bragging they’ve gotten more FB frinds than POTUS since ACA decision. How old are these people?
hedgehog the occasional commenter
@JPL:
Yeah, it showed up this morning in Denver (we are getting saturated by ads from both camps). All I could think was “that’s all you got?”
BonnyAnne
@The Dangerman:
Yes. Absolutely. But I might recommend bringing a friend for moral support, or at least watching at one of those delightful cinemas that also provides beer and harder alcohols.
Rorgg
@Steve: Hey, the PUMA/Hillaryis44 crowd will LAP IT UP!
I mean, the ad totally worked for President Hillary, didn’t it?
Brachiator
Please alert me when the Mittbot 2000 does something that is not stupid.
So far, these people are not so much bumbling as dull, predictable and not too bright, despite thinking that they are the entitled masters of the universe.
Cris (without an H)
Shamon U!
Joel
I hope not. Flick won.
Although she’s way more likeable than Romney, so she has that going for her.
El Cid
@Redshift: These are the same people who were genuinely, publicly surprised, shocked and outraged that when their California governor recall got Arnold in power and he carried through his main campaign promise — to rescind the vehicle registration fee imposed since they can’t effectively raise any taxes due to Prop 13 — the California budget deficit increased instantly by the exact same amount of money that the vehicle registration fee had been budgeted to bring in.
Really. Not making it up.
They all declared themselves against that vehicle reg. fee, Ahnuld said he’d take it away, he did, and they then all acted dumbfounded when the budget deficit skyrocketed, almost doubling, because that was the amount of money which would have come from that fee.
So, not only do they make up differences between taxes and fees at will, they are free to ignore any correlation between some tax or fee input to a budget and the budgetary impact of not having that tax or fee.
Because math is soshullist. Under American Patriot Math, $8 billion revenues to be generated from a fee should not somehow cause $8 billion in revenue to disappear if that fee is removed. There must have been some invisible spending increase to blame.
JPL
@Brachiator: It would not surprise me if Romney’s campaign bus honked during the President’s visit to Colorado today.
They could have a new tag.. honk if you love wild fires.
Steve
@Rorgg: President Hillary found out that it’s hard to get people to see Barack Obama as this nasty, negative person. I guess others take longer to learn that lesson.
Brachiator
@JPL:
It would not surprise me if Romney tied a burning log on top of his campaign bus and drove it through the state.
@El Cid:
But isn’t this a little misleading?
There was a Nov 2008 budget plan:
The structural deficit far exceeded the whatever benefit would come from the car tax.
And no one can say how the increase in the car tax would have hurt people already reeling from unemployment and wage declines? And we have seen a significant decline in auto dealerships. From 2010:
A vehicle tax doesn’t do much if cars are not being sold, and the projections of revenues from the increased sales tax, like much of California budgets, are more fantasy than reliable analysis.
Roger Moore
@Litlebritdifrnt:
If they don’t already have a stockpile of them, David Axelrod is losing his touch. The only part that might take 10 minutes is picking which of them is the most devastating.
Roger Moore
@El Cid:
Of course they were shocked. It’s now part of Republican dogma that cutting taxes raises revenues- Laffer Curve and all, don’t you know- so it’s a shock when things don’t work that way. Remember, the biggest dispute between the California Republican Gubernatorial candidates in 2010 was whether they would raise more revenue with a massive across the board tax cut or a massive targeted tax cut. The idea that a massive tax cut was not the solution to our budget deficit, much less that it would make it worse, never crossed their minds.
ETA: @Brachiator:
Note, though, that this wasn’t a vehicle sales tax; it’s a vehicle license fee. It applies both when licensing a new car and when renewing your license for an existing car.
tuesdaynightsuccess
Hm. If there’s anyone that stands as an arbiter of morality in the eyes of Republicans, it must be the Clintons.
James E. Powell
@El Cid:
In California, the deficit has only two causes: wastefraudandabuse and spending on illegal aliens!
James E. Powell
@Roger Moore:
The idea that a massive tax cut was not the solution to our budget deficit, much less that it would make it worse, never crossed their minds.
Oh no, they expected a large budget deficit. And the answer to that would be More & Bigger Tax Cuts!
Brachiator
@Roger Moore:
RE: A vehicle tax doesn’t do much if cars are not being sold,
Good clarifying point. Still, you have fewer cars sold, you have less in the way of new and renewal fees.
I barely remember the GOP gubernatorial race at all. But the idea that tax cuts are the solution to everything is GOP mantra, especially in the land of Reagan.
Roger Moore
@Brachiator:
If you sell fewer cars, you get a little bit less money because some people are paying the renewal fee on their clunker rather than the new license fee on a spiffy new car. Tripling the fee more than makes up for that difference. Maybe it’s a bad idea to raise taxes when the economy is bad, but the only alternative that meets the balanced budget requirement is to slash government spending, which is an even worse idea.
Eric Lindholm
It’s a “big lie” and “bullshit” because….???
I know here in the echo chamber it’s unnecessary to substantiate your claims but I’d like to know. Romney claims that Obama lied and uses the Washington Post (and today Factcheck agreed) as evidence. Back in 2008, then-candidate Clinton said the same thing about Obama: he lies.
Where, praytell, is the falsehood in this ad?