I have to give the horse-race wankers credit for dismissing all the Ricementum out of hand. The Fix at Kaplan:
Given all of the above, there is no way that Rice would accept the vice presidential nomination and, almost certainly, no way that Romney would even offer it to her.
Halperin (not sure why he mentions an Arnold Palmer, I can never get his Rain Manesque sense of humor):
If Romney picks a pro-choice running mate, you can feel free to make me buy you an Arnold Palmer. Inconceivable.
Nah guh happa.
jrg
I’m sure the teabaggers that ran around carrying images of Obama as a witch doctor would find a Condi VP pick compelling.
dmsilev
What was the point of the Romney campaign floating such an absurd rumor, absurd enough that it didn’t even trigger the Squirrel! reflex of the press? Was it just to try to distract from the swirling vortex of what will inevitably be called Bain-gate?
Valdivia
Wait for the Ryan boomlet. They will have their panties ready for throwing at him.
Betty Cracker
@dmsilev: Bingo. Not working, though…
PeakVT
Aside from her personality and resume problems, Rice has no constituency. She’s never been elected to anything and has no base of support outside conservative, very wealth, old, white men. I can’t fathom why would anyone want her on the presidential ticket. Which is why I think the whole boomlet has been staged, and is another attempt by Romney to signal “Look, I’m not a bigot” to swing voters.
eldorado
it took up a couple of minutes on npr yesterday morning. everyone also agreed nah gunna happa, but it did let them talk about something romney related that wasn’t bain.
oogabooga
I love the fact everytime someone mentions Condi Rice your shit get’s twisted into a knot. CCCCC….OOOO…DDDD…OOOO…LLLL…LLLL..EEEE…ZZZZZ….ZZZZZ….AAAAA RRRRRR….IIIIII….CCCCC….EEEEE.
General Stuck
Viva La Jimi!!
Gin & Tonic
@oogabooga: Need another cup of coffee this morning?
Peregrinus
@oogabooga: Are my eyes going or did you just forget the N in her first name?
dmsilev
@Valdivia: Didn’t we already have a Ryan boomlet a week or two ago? I lose track of these things so quickly.
DougJ
@oogabooga:
I’m kind of a Condi apologist. I just don’t she’ll be VP.
quannlace
Sweet Jesus. One word I can go the rest of my life without ever hearing again is ‘Veepstake.”
Peregrinus
@DougJ:
Interesting. Why the apologia? I think she merits some, but I want to hear you out.
NonyNony
@DougJ:
A Condi apologist in the sense of “I’m sorry you had the bad judgment to latch yourself to the iceberg known as George W Bush?”
DougJ
@Peregrinus:
I think she kept us out of Iran. Bush listened to her instead of Cheney.
That goes a long way with me.
Tara the Antisocial Social Worker
@dmsilev:
We went through the float-Condi’s-name ritual in 2008, along with Bobby Jindal. The only purpose is to reassure white independents that the Republicans are totally not the party of racism, because they’re willing to talk about picking a person of color (before they go ahead and pick a white guy).
Valdivia
@dmsilev:
I was hoping for a true blue Drudge confirms it boomlet
Gin & Tonic
@quannlace: Only thing she has going for her is she lets the old white guys check off the “woman” and the “minority” checkboxes with one checkmark.
Peregrinus
@DougJ:
This is true. It’s a sad thing when you realize that Bush’s reflex was to trust Cheney over, you know, most of the diplomatic and intelligence services.
Gin & Tonic
@DougJ: Won’t matter, as Bibi will drag us in before the election.
Betty Cracker
@DougJ: Agreed. I also don’t think Rice is as down-to-the-core evil as most of the Bushies. Admittedly, that’s an extremely low bar, but I think she clears it.
geg6
An Arnold Palmer is a drink, Doug. I forget what’s in it, but I just heard of it myself a few weeks ago. It is a cocktail, I think.
Peregrinus
@geg6:
It’s iced tea and lemonade in equal parts.
Zach
It is hilarious that Mitt’s campaign is so desperate to talk about anything else on the Sunday shows tomorrow that they’re pretending to leak VP talk so early. You know it’s bull when they’re pretending to consider Jon Kyl, who showed strong family-values cred in backing John Ensign: “He’s a very intelligent senator,” Kyl said, adding, “John is a person of great faith. So I know this is a very, very difficult deal for he and his family.”
jwb
@Gin & Tonic: Hard to know how that would play, electorally, which is why I don’t think it’s a slam dunk that Bibi will do the stupid thing here. In any case, I’m confident that the Obama team has that possibility thoroughly gamed out. At this point, I worry more about the Eurozone falling apart in spectacular fashion.
PeakVT
@DougJ: Wasn’t there pushback from the DoD, too? Maybe Rice was decisive, but I’m fairly sure she wasn’t alone.
Narcissus
Did we ever find out what Condi’s deal was though
Was she really pining for W or was she a lesbian or what
I don’t see the GOP going for a woman who spends so much time outside of the kitchen
Steeplejack
@Betty Cracker:
I don’t think she’s evil, just largely incompetent as anything but a bureaucratic place-holder. She was the national security adviser who missed the biggest terrorist attack in U.S. history. That’s going to leave a scorching hole in your résumé. Well, it should, anyway.
I still can’t believe how Dubya’s whole administration got away with that “We kept you safe (ever since 9/11)” meme for so long.
ETA: Edited slightly.
Betty Cracker
@Peregrinus: And a Leland Palmer is tea, lemonade and vodka. Yum!
Odie Hugh Manatee
According to Erickkk, Son of Erickkk, Romney on Rice isn’t very nice. Erickkk sez “bull shiitake mushrooms” to that idea!
I see that the idjits at RedNeckState adapted to not being able to cuss like normal people by saying stupid shit like “bull shiitake mushrooms” and “bull sheetrock”. It’s like some ‘clever’ idea kids would come up with so they could cuss around their parents. Join up, post a few cuss words and watch the poor dears call for a resident donkey puncher to save them before they fall over in a dead faint.
Fucking pansies. :)
WereBear
I thought an Arnold Palmer was half iced tea, half lemonade.
Guy’s a cheapskate in other words; he’s not springing for a cocktail sized bet.
Betty Cracker
@Steeplejack: Yep. She might not have been terrible (for a Republican) in an administration that had to deal with Cold War machinations, but she was clearly a deer in the headlights on 9/11.
Betty Cracker
@Odie Hugh Manatee: They can’t curse at RedState? Shut the front door!
Ken
@dmsilev: We get Ryan boomlets every week or two. It’s like the recurrent explosive flatulence you get with irritable bowel syndrome, nothing you can really do about it.
GxB
@WereBear: Apparently the Mormon / non-alcoholic drink connection is the reason it’s there. Though I’m sure he’s a cheap prick too. If rethugs drink any golf themed beverage, it should be a Fuzzy Zoeller – jigger of bile, jigger of bitters, Malibu rum (white bottle natch), and a collard green garnish. Granted, his target turned out to be a d-bag too but never-the-less…
@Ken: Ding!
Arm The Homeless
@Valdivia:
I vacillate, day to day, as to what the downside of Ryan in as VP would be.
It elevates him after the eventual loss. It gives the wingnuts a clear line of succession into their Libertarian-GOP re-organization (after the bible-thumpers don’t pull their weight this year, count.on.it).
It very well could be him. I wouldn’t bet against it. But, somewhere deep down, it really feels like they are going to get pulled in by the siren’s call of, “Shake Things Up!”, if Mittens keeps stepping on his own dick.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Betty Cracker:
Naah, they’re too pure to cuss or something like that. You can bet their members cuss like construction workers everywhere except for there though. I think it’s probably because they don’t know how to spell those bad words. If someone says that they don’t cuss then they are either a liar or a religious zealot.
More than likely both.
Steeplejack
P.S. Thread title made me laugh. Got an image of Jimi crooning, with Condi in the audience (big afro and tie-dyed headband) writing “Mrs. Jimi Hendrix” over and over in her diary.
smintheus
Romney is an even more incompetent politician than McCain. He’s also mired in his own mess from Bain and needs to change the subject for the rest of the campaign. If McCain was dumb enough or desperate enough to pick Palin, then Romney’s perfectly capable of picking Rice.
Who else is he going to pick to give him a veneer of “credibility” in foreign affairs? Kelly Ayotte?
jwb
Who actually would be a game changer as a VP pick? Is there anyone that would particularly scare Dems?
smintheus
@PeakVT: Yes, the Pentagon made it clear to Bush that if he attacked Iran he’d have a military as well as political meltdown.
smintheus
@jwb: Yes. It’s a short list: Hilary Clinton.
GxB
@Steeplejack: I thought that chick looked familiar (20 seconds in)
PeakVT
@jwb: Someone who can attract droves of Latinos without irritating droves of Teabaggers. IOW, nobody.
DougJ
@PeakVT:
From what I’ve heard (and I had a reasonably well-connected friend who was watching it closely at the time), Condi was the key player in marginalizing the neocons during Bush’s second term.
Roy G.
I say we all pitch in and buy Halperin a tall pitcher of STFU.
WereBear
Dayum. Never really liked her, but props to that. Any clue to her motivations?
Sometimes you think people do the right thing because it’s a right thing; then you find out they just wanted to whipsaw the other guy involved…
MoeLarryAndJesus
Who is Randy Bean and why does she make Condi an impossibility as a VP pick?
http://www.signorile.com/2007/09/condis-best-friends-yesterday-on-show-i.html
Spaniel
If it is not Condi, then what is Kristol going to crow about. Not sure if Kristol has been driving this Condi VP train or if there really is smoke with this story.
stinger
The number of teabagging christianist rednecks who would vote for a-MORMON-and-a-BLACK-WOMAN ticket would fit into my Honda Civic with room left over for two Irish Wolfhounds. So pleeeeeeze let it be Condi!
tomvox1
@Peregrinus:
But at night, it’s better with some vodka.
Steeplejack
@GxB:
Heh. Condi storms the stage!
ABL
Great title, Doug.
Meez
No way are they going to give pro-choice Condi the VP slot. They are probably trying to take attention from Bain attacks.