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You are here: Home / Sometimes I fold my arms, I say hmmmm hmmmm hmmmm

Sometimes I fold my arms, I say hmmmm hmmmm hmmmm

by DougJ|  July 20, 20123:57 pm| 93 Comments

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Had to interrupt my blogging vacay to vent about this (via):

“It’s the difference between the songs that they’re singing,” (Romney surrogate) Mrs Welch said. “Mitt Romney didn’t exactly do a beautiful job on that song, but think about what he’s singing, OK? I mean it’s that patriotic song and he goes all the way through it. Then you’ve got the very cool Barack Obama singing Al Green. That is the two different Americas. Isn’t it?”

What the fuck? There is nothing I am more proud of, as an American, than the music of Al Green.

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  1. 1.

    Todd

    July 20, 2012 at 3:58 pm

    This is the ghost of Lee Atwater, possessing a woman and making her shout “n****r, n****r, n****r”.

  2. 2.

    Steve

    July 20, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    There’s America and then there’s blah America, I guess.

  3. 3.

    EconWatcher

    July 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    Wow, she’s subtle.

  4. 4.

    Valdivia

    July 20, 2012 at 4:03 pm

    I just have no words. That is all.

  5. 5.

    dead existentialist

    July 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    I’m moving to the very cool America. Can somebody point the way?

  6. 6.

    Punchy

    July 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Then you’ve got the very cool Barack Obama

    I smell an out-of-context-but-who-gives-a-fuck Obama team commercial soundbyte. ONe of those, “Even Romney’s supporters like Barack! Listen to Mrs. Welch!” drops.

  7. 7.

    Martin

    July 20, 2012 at 4:06 pm

    Negro music.

    Personally, I care more about results. Romney is a terrible singer. Kudos for getting up and doing it, but work harder please.

  8. 8.

    Hunter Gathers

    July 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    There are two Americas, Mrs. Welch. You just happen to be from the one that sucks.

  9. 9.

    Catsy

    July 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    She might as well have said “jungle rhythms”.

  10. 10.

    Face

    July 20, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    I’m not sure Welchy wants to discuss songs. Wasn’t it Romney who thought Nugent or ELO or some such dumbfuckery was responsible for “Sweet Home Alabama” during a primary rally?

  11. 11.

    BGinCHI

    July 20, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    They’re such a musical people, but they aren’t real Americans.

    After all, we had to make them come here!

  12. 12.

    Lurking Canadian

    July 20, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    Not hard to figure out what she thinks is “other” about Al Green and Barack Obama.

  13. 13.

    El Cid

    July 20, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Clearly, they’d all love to gather ’round to hear Obama sing Hank Williams Jr’s greatest hits.

  14. 14.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Sam Cooke? Otis? But yeah, point well taken.

  15. 15.

    Mike E

    July 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    She’s a martini away from winning the NiCLANG pool for some lucky devil…what’s it up to now?

  16. 16.

    dr. bloor

    July 20, 2012 at 4:11 pm

    Hey Mr. Welch, mind if I dance with your date?

  17. 17.

    Lyrebird

    July 20, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @Todd: Well I dunno if she needed any supernatural help or not, but that’s sure what it sounds like to me!

    [sarcasm]
    How dare that Black President sing SOUL music by someone BLACK!
    [/sarcasm]

    It’s a sad day when you long for the return of republicans like, I dunno, Bob Dole or something. This stuff is just slimy!

  18. 18.

    The Bobs

    July 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    @Hunter Gathers: She is from the America that oppresses the other one. In her mind that makes here on the side of the good guys. Ugh.

  19. 19.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    July 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Yes, two different Americas: The one for those who believe that your patriotism can be summed up in which song you sing, how you say the pledge of allegiance, and whether you wear a flag pin or not, and the America for the rest of us.

  20. 20.

    Redshift

    July 20, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    @Martin:

    Personally, I care more about results. Romney is a terrible singer. Kudos for getting up and doing it, but work harder please.

    I actually saw that clip more as evidence of what a terrible politician Romney is. Yeah, his singing wasn’t great, but the really awful quality was because he was leading a song for everyone to sing along with, and didn’t seem to understand how that would go when he had a microphone and they didn’t.

    How is it possible to be in politics as long as Romney has been and not know that?

  21. 21.

    JenJen

    July 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    Ahhh, yes. The scandalous Suzy Welch, noted homewrecker and adultress, lecturing the rest of us on American “values.”

    Screw her for maligning the great Al Green, especially. Why didn’t she just come right out with it and scream BLACKITY BLACK BLACK BLACK?

  22. 22.

    MikeBoyScout

    July 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    <emThat is the two different Americas. Isn’t it?

    No, it is not.

    Please, Mrs. Welch, explain yourself.

  23. 23.

    JPL

    July 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    She’s jealous because Jack doesn’t sing to her.

  24. 24.

    The Moar You Know

    July 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    That is the two different Americas. Isn’t it?

    Sure is, thanks for expressing that so well for me. Which America is Mitt running for the presidency of? Obviously not mine.

  25. 25.

    Roger Moore

    July 20, 2012 at 4:16 pm

    Because I’m sure that Obama never sings patriotic songs, ever, and patriotic songs are the only ones Mitt even knows. Yeah, right. The only thing the contrast shows is the points the two campaigns are trying to make.

    Obama: Mitt is a fake patriot who brags about America while shipping jobs overseas.

    Romney: Barack is one of those other people.

  26. 26.

    BGinCHI

    July 20, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    Jack Welch’s wife.

    Fuck them.

    Goes to show how racism lurks even at the highest levels of society. I guess Harvard doesn’t really do much for the hard bigotry of class snobbery.

  27. 27.

    Spaghetti Lee

    July 20, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    ONLY PATRIOTIC SONGS ARE ACCEPTABLE MATERIAL, COMRADE! ALL DECADENT BOURGEOIS ART MUST BE SHUNNED! SONGS EXTOLLING THE GLORY OF THE FATHERLAND ARE BY DEFINITION SUPERIOR!

    For a bunch of commie-haters, they sure do act like commies.

  28. 28.

    Randy P

    July 20, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    This is idiotic on so many levels but just on the surface one, the one where we’re talking elementary logic, no. It is not two different countries. Two different people can sing different songs in THE VERY SAME COUNTRY. Try a radio. You might even hear more than two songs.

  29. 29.

    kindness

    July 20, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    That Republiscum dog whistle? It’s not very subtle any more, no?

  30. 30.

    pete

    July 20, 2012 at 4:20 pm

    That’s the Reverend Al Green. Why does Mrs Welch diss Christian ministers?

  31. 31.

    LAC

    July 20, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): Exactly – you have to wonder where Romney gets these twats from?

    hands up for the ride to “cool” America.

  32. 32.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    July 20, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    OT – Holmes told the police he was “The Joker” he had painted his hair and beard red.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/9416529/Batman-cinema-shooting-James-Holmes-told-police-he-was-the-Joker.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    He bought the first of the guns in May. Looks like he was planning this for a while.

  33. 33.

    Redshift

    July 20, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    I mean it’s that patriotic song and he goes all the way through it.

    “I like Romney. His songs are just the right length.”

  34. 34.

    aimai

    July 20, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    I have the President singing Al Green as my husband’s ringtone so when my husband calls me I hear a burst of applause and then the smooth stylings of the President. People all around me love it when the phone goes off in my pocket in the grocery store.
    There are indeed two Americas: an America of normal people who heard the president singing a love song and an America of crazy people who hear a man screetching “Ooga Booga.”

    aimai

  35. 35.

    Darkrose

    July 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    But race absolutely has nothing to do with people’s perceptions of Obama.

  36. 36.

    Schlemizel

    July 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    I’m most proud of the marvelous job the media does at keeping us informed! Here is a classic example of how hard real reporters work to dig up the truth:
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidthier/2012/07/18/how-this-guy-lied-his-way-into-msnbc-abc-news-the-new-york-times-and-more/

  37. 37.

    Randy P

    July 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @Redshift: all the way through? Did he really sing all 8 verses?

  38. 38.

    danielx

    July 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    A little antidote to the bad taste Suzy Welch’s comments left in the mouths of about 200 million Americans.

    Take it away, James!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yrT0DpvfVI

  39. 39.

    Tony J

    July 20, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    ONLY PATRIOTIC SONGS ARE ACCEPTABLE MATERIAL, COMRADE! ALL DECADENT BOURGEOIS ART MUST BE SHUNNED! SONGS EXTOLLING THE GLORY OF THE FATHERLAND MOTHERLAND ARE BY DEFINITION SUPERIOR!

    Unless you cribbed that from Jonah the Whale’s dime-store classic, in which case sorry, and please carry on.

  40. 40.

    pseudonymous in nc

    July 20, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    There’s a long history of Those Musicians being declared the other, which is why African-American artists often preferred the unsegregated venues of Europe.

  41. 41.

    DougJ

    July 20, 2012 at 4:28 pm

    @aimai:

    It’s my ring tone for text messages.

  42. 42.

    EconWatcher

    July 20, 2012 at 4:31 pm

    By the way, my wife and I just saw Obama’s ad “The Firms” here in Virginia on TV (the one with Romney singing “God Bless America” while the text describes offshoring, Swiss accounts, etc.)

    My wife’s reaction worried me a bit. An immigrant from the former Soviet Union, she doesn’t pay much attention to politics. She favors the Dems mainly because she thinks the other side is crazy and stupid; her views on policy are a very mixed bag.

    Anyway, after she saw the ad, she said, “I thought Obama was supposed to be a nice guy. Maybe he has to do that, but it’s not very nice.”

    One thing in the ad that’s too subtle and might be backfiring a little: The purpose of the soundtrack with Romney singing “God Bless America” is of course to make him look hypocritical, but it comes off as embarrassing him because he’s such a bad singer. And someone who can’t sing trying his best to belt out a patriotic song engenders some sympathy.

  43. 43.

    Davis X. Machina

    July 20, 2012 at 4:32 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: “Aesthetic Stalinism” is the LGM crew’s name for the phenomenon, Roy Edroso the leading historian.

  44. 44.

    Bobby D

    July 20, 2012 at 4:33 pm

    Jeez, dog whistle much Ms. Welch?

    Just need to point out to R-Money’s surrogate…that’s the REVEREND Al Green, lady. You (and Mittens) got something against Christians ya momo cult freaks?

  45. 45.

    japa21

    July 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Obama: Mitt is a fake patriot who brags about America while shipping jobs overseas.

    Romney: Barack is one of those other people.

    But she is too dumb to realize it. The whole point of the Obama campaign’s ad was to juxtapose Romney singing a patriotic song while his actions represent an anti-American sentiment.

  46. 46.

    Martin

    July 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm

    @EconWatcher:

    One thing in the ad that’s too subtle and might be backfiring a little: The purpose of the soundtrack with Romney singing “God Bless America” is to make him look hypocritical, but it comes off as embarrassing him because he’s such a bad singer. And someone who can’t sing trying is best to sing a patriotic song engenders some sympathy.

    Believe it or not, they actually cleaned up the singing so that it sounds better. It was actually worse than that.

  47. 47.

    Hill Dweller

    July 20, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @EconWatcher: If this is a competition for who is nicer, Obama wins in a landslide.

    Willard is slimier than any Presidential candidate I’ve ever seen. Obama has to make that apparent, and sometimes that means stepping on a few toes.

  48. 48.

    Brachiator

    July 20, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    OT – Holmes told the police he was “The Joker” he had painted his hair and beard red.

    So, does Holmes suffer from color blindness? Or maybe he’s just babbling stuff to get a reaction. The Joker’s hair ain’t red.

    That is the two different Americas. Isn’t it?”

    Faux patriotic America vs honest America? Stiff Mormon pants white guy America vs cool America?

    I’m not so much getting dog whistles here as stupidity and desperation.

    And also remember that when Romney blows a dog whistle, the response you get is the hapless howls of a dog strapped to the top of the Mittbot’s car.

  49. 49.

    Tony J

    July 20, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    Holmes told the police he was “The Joker” he had painted his hair and beard red.

    Because The Joker, as we all know, absolutely, positively, does not have bright green hair.

  50. 50.

    Roger Moore

    July 20, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    @japa21:

    But she is too dumb paid not to realize it.

    FTFY.

  51. 51.

    Jewish Steel

    July 20, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    That is the two different Americas. Isn’t it?

    You’re goddamn right it is. I know which one I want to live in.

  52. 52.

    BGinCHI

    July 20, 2012 at 4:49 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Maybe she meant it’s the two afterlifes:

    Heaven: Al Green

    Hell: Mitt Romney singing anything, all the time

  53. 53.

    Phoenician in a time of Romans

    July 20, 2012 at 4:53 pm

    When I read that, I kept hearing “<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg2O5SlZ25g">How about a good old n****r work song?“

  54. 54.

    Johnny Gentle (famous crooner)

    July 20, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    You said, it Ms. Welch! Since when did we allow those negroes to sing anything other than harmless spirituals and field-work songs? What’s this country coming to? Now you’ve got the Kenyan in Chief singing love songs to our white women!!

  55. 55.

    Rafer Janders

    July 20, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    I have to say, she’s right. It IS two different Americas.

    But I know which one I want to be part of.

  56. 56.

    Tonal Crow

    July 20, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Yes, the very cool black metrosexual Abraham Lincoln Obama deftly sang a bar of Al Green. Sounds good (in all senses) to me.

  57. 57.

    xochi

    July 20, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    How awesome would it be if this election were actually about a referendum on who thinks the music of Al Green sucks?

  58. 58.

    burnspbesq

    July 20, 2012 at 5:21 pm

    @dead existentialist:

    I’m moving to the very cool America. Can somebody point the way?

    You’re not the only one asking for directions.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1sdKTc64jc

  59. 59.

    TooManyJens

    July 20, 2012 at 5:28 pm

    In an appearance on CNN with her husband, Mrs Welch suggested that Mr Obama’s personal style and choice of musical material define him as a member of a “different America”.

    I’m gonna go out on a limb here and assume that whichever CNN talking head it was did not ask Mrs. Welch to clarify her remark.

  60. 60.

    Another Halocene Human

    July 20, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: Win. I needed a laugh.

  61. 61.

    quannlace

    July 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    I guess Al Green is only for the Nail Ladies.

  62. 62.

    kc

    July 20, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    This Mrs. Welch? http://tinyurl.com/ch2rxw7

  63. 63.

    kc

    July 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    @EconWatcher:

    As someone who can’t sing a lick, even I felt sympathy for Romney. I love the text in the ad, but overlaying Romney’s painfully off-key singing does seem a little mean. Funny, but mean.

  64. 64.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    July 20, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    doug is the allie mcbeal of balloon juice.

  65. 65.

    tones

    July 20, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    On the one side we have the very cool President Obama…on the other…
    the opposite.

  66. 66.

    Joel

    July 20, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    I want to live in very cool fucking america.

    Fuck these people.

  67. 67.

    a dood

    July 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    as we all know, the most patriotic thing a person can do is hide their money in off shore bank accounts to skirt obligations as an American citizen.

  68. 68.

    gogol's wife

    July 20, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @xochi:

    Yes, please, please, please.

  69. 69.

    Kerry Reid

    July 20, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    Well, Barack Obama was singing a song popularized by a Christian minister, and Mitt Romney sang a song written by a socialist sympathizer. So there’s that.

  70. 70.

    Steeplejack

    July 20, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @Phoenician in a time of Romans:

    Linky no work. I fix.

  71. 71.

    TooManyJens

    July 20, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @Kerry Reid: Is there a word for laughing so you don’t cry? Because I’m picturing what would happen if the Right found out that Obama had sung “a song written by a socialist sympathizer,” and whatever that word is, I’m doing it.

  72. 72.

    Mnemosyne

    July 20, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    As other people said, one wonders if he’s colorblind since the Joker has (and has always had) green hair.

    Though, if true, it also makes me think that this guy probably was influenced by right-wing memes and rhetoric since they’ve been doing Obama = the Joker comparisons for at least a couple of years now.

  73. 73.

    Barbara

    July 20, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    That’s Reverend Al Green to you Ms. Welch, because you know, he might not be too approving of you either:

    Jane — the current Mrs. Jack Welch — was none too pleased that her husband was doing more than being interviewed by Suzy Wetlaufer. She reached Suzy at home in Lexington, Massachusetts. A high-powered lawyer who gave up her career at Jack’s insistence when she married him thirteen years ago, she wanted to know: Wasn’t Suzy at all worried about compromising her journalistic integrity by sleeping with her husband?

  74. 74.

    TooManyJens

    July 20, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    @Barbara:

    who gave up her career at Jack’s insistence

    What a guy.

    I hate absolutely everyone today.

  75. 75.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    July 20, 2012 at 6:24 pm

    @Todd: That’s pretty much exactly what I thought. Coded for the new century. Fuckwads, all of them.

  76. 76.

    honus

    July 20, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    @Jewish Steel: Exactly. I’d rather listen to Al Green than the hell I imagine when I think of Condi Rice playing piano while John Ashcroft sings “As the Eagle Flies.”

  77. 77.

    Kerry Reid

    July 20, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    @TooManyJens: Me too. Then again — nobody made hay out of TAHD Palin belonging to a secessionist party started by a guy who made Jeremiah Wright’s rhetoric sound like a Rod McKuen poem. So much for “palling around with terrorists.”

    Full disclosure: the author of the Bloomberg piece is an old pal of mine. I’m looking forward to reading his book when he finishes it.

  78. 78.

    Mike in NC

    July 20, 2012 at 6:59 pm

    Pretty sure Mittens was reading the lyrics off a TelePrompTer.

  79. 79.

    AxelFoley

    July 20, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    “Then you’ve got the very cool Barack Obama singing Al Green. That is the two different Americas. Isn’t it?”

    Translation: Obama and Green are blackity blackity black black. And near.

  80. 80.

    Roger Moore

    July 20, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    You’re not the only one asking for directions.

    Tell me about it.

  81. 81.

    polyorchnid octopunch

    July 20, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee: You need to check your references. It wasn’t the communists that referred to the fatherland… not to mention the alliance of corporate and state power.

  82. 82.

    mai naem

    July 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    I am stealing a comment from the NYTimes comments – “There’s two Americas – one with soul and one with no soul”

    Jack and Suzy Welch come on Morning Ho every so often. Can’t stand either one of them. Jack thinks the Mittster’s not being nasty enough. Suzy comes across as one of a HS mean girl. And Jack, well, Jack joins the Republican Club of Turtle Look-Alikes. Also too, Suzy is just jealous that her husband looks like a 97 year old old fart with old stretchy patchy dry skin with old googly eyes and Obama, well, Obama looks a lot younger than Suzy, forget Jack, and Barry’s about the same age as Suzy.
    One last thing, Suzy, that’s Reverend Al Green to you.

  83. 83.

    Phil Perspective

    July 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    @JenJen: I posted that exact same sentiment over at the TGOS. Elites like her really have no self-awareness.

  84. 84.

    AxelFoley

    July 20, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    @Johnny Gentle (famous crooner):

    You said, it Ms. Welch! Since when did we allow those negroes to sing anything other than harmless spirituals and field-work songs? What’s this country coming to? Now you’ve got the Kenyan in Chief singing love songs to our white women!!

    ROFL! Well played, sir.

  85. 85.

    chopper

    July 20, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    ♪ from sea to shining seaaaaaa END OF SONG ♫

  86. 86.

    Heliopause

    July 20, 2012 at 7:35 pm

    Good god, what demographic does she think she’s speaking to? The people who were worried about “negro rhythms” back in 1955? Are any of them still alive?

  87. 87.

    HEY YOU

    July 20, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    I know Barack Obama is black but Al Green too?

  88. 88.

    Patricia Kayden

    July 20, 2012 at 7:42 pm

    @MikeBoyScout: Could someone please ask Mrs. Welch what the hell she meant by “two different Americas”?!!!!

    Inquiring minds want to know.

    I thought this country was “one nation indivisible under God” or something like that.

  89. 89.

    freelancer

    July 20, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    I know I’m about to make people feel old, but Who the Fuck is Jack Welch?!

  90. 90.

    AxelFoley

    July 20, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @freelancer:

    The guy who makes that grape jelly they sell at the grocery store?

  91. 91.

    El Cid

    July 20, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    @freelancer: The asshole whose awesome reforms to GE generally involved offshoring and the firing of middle management who later had to be rehired, but fortunately at much lower pay and benefits.

  92. 92.

    a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)

    July 20, 2012 at 9:51 pm

    @freelancer: You succeeded. In case you’re serious, he’s a former CEO of GE, who auditioned his current wife Suzy while she was interviewing him for a story in the Harvard Business Review. Her predecessor, who was at the time still the current Mrs. Welch, was not amused. Hilarity ensued.

  93. 93.

    John M. Burt

    July 21, 2012 at 12:37 am

    @Johnny Gentle (famous crooner):

    Since when did we allow those negroes to sing anything other than harmless spirituals and field-work songs?

    I would love to hear the President singing “Follow the Drinking Gourd”, especially to an Hispanic audience….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBOP8t2hlFQ`

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