One day, up near Salinas (not really that far from Berkeley), I let Sarah Palin slip away, and I haven’t been following her movements that closely ever since. But recently, the internets told me that Bristol Palin will be on “Dancing With The Stars” and that the Palins now rival the Kardashians as the first family of reality tv. They also told me that Sarah Palin had a four Senate-primary winning streak of getting Tea Party whackos Republican nominations, and that the race in Missouri broke that streak. Who knows how much difference a Palin endorsement actually makes — my guess is that it makes some in a primary because no one is paying much attention normally and when she gets in, they do start paying attention — but, for example, Chunky Bobo doesn’t joke about her, because he takes her very seriously.
There’s a building sense of Ryanmentum these days, which brings me to a natural question: will Ryan go Palin on us if he gets the VP nod and then loses (I am almost certain that a Romney-Ryan ticket would lose)? It’s got to be awfully tempting to give up that 150K a year lifestyle of having to mooch primo burgundy off your Galtian friends and start raking in millions via Fox Shows, reality tv, book tours, and so on.
I have a pretty good idea of what Ryan should do in the event that he is a losing VP candidate. First, a reality show about the Ryan family and their hard-working heartland values would be a big hit. Then, a ghost-written book that winger media will promote and that Ross Douthat and Charles Lane will describe as wonky and deeply serious. And then — here’s where I hope Ryan is listening to me — instead of going around endorsing candidates, he could go around with Ted Nugent protesting this or that local tax ordinance or campaigning against this or that local tax ordinance. This could be a show on Fox, sort of like the one John Stossel does.
The one thing that gives me pause is that he could sell millions of copies of his book while remaining in Congress. He could sell more if he had his own tv show(s) though.
Linda Featheringill
Ryan for VP would be grand. Do you think I’ve been good enough for the FSM to grant that? Probably not.
Have you been good? Maybe you’d qualify and the rest of us could bask in your glory. :-)
danah gaz (fka gaz)
Ryan is probably more Alan Greenspan than Sarah Palin
If he loses, and doesn’t keep his elected office, I think he’ll probably just go on an ass kissing spree until he gets some appointed position where he can wreck shit and feel good doing it. Basically, what Greenspan did.
Of course, I have no real compelling evidence for that. However, if framed as a choice between Dancing with the stars, and getting appointed to the Fed, I think the latter is far more likely
Violet
Ryan isn’t the Male Palin (The Malin), even though he’s got those dreamboat looks and swoon-worthy blue eyes. He’s smarter and doesn’t view politics only as a springboard to fame and riches. If he were Romney’s failed VP, he’d just regroup and run for President in 2016. I could see him hosting some kind of political show, but not a Palin-style reality show.
J.A.F. Rusty Shackleford
I think Ryan will still run for his seat in Congress even if he’s tabbed to be R-Money’s veep.
MikeJ
I don’t want to see Paul Ryan in platform shoes, pedal pushers, and a superman baby-t.
rea
“he could sell millions of copies of his book while
remainingremaindering in Congress”Fixed your typo . . .
Violet
If given the VP nod, there will be lots of GOP starbursts, however.
Desargues
The man is a sociopath, but I doubt he’s a halfwit. He’s probably aiming to take his own shot at the First Job, and the teevee-carny-barker route you laid out for him is a dead end, if you’re shooting for the White House. I know, I know, I should never misunderestimate the stupidity of Republicans, but for now I think he may stay put rather than turn bitch for Murdoch.
BGinCHI
If he’s VP and they lose, he could just withhold his productivity.
In other words, keep doing what he’s doing now.
Hunter Gathers
He’s an idiot if he accepts it. Putting him on the ticket puts CouponCare front and center, and the loss in November kills CouponCare for all time. If he isn’t on the ticket, he gets to spend the next 10+ years going on the Sunday shows pimping it, giving paid speeches pimping it and selling books pimping it. And since the GOP isn’t giving up their hatred of the Browns anytime soon (which keeps them out of the White House for the time being), he gets to be the Villagers new Holy Man, who could save the country if only the blacks and Hispanics weren’t so darned partisan.
Desargues
@Violet: Rich Lowry may get that 4-hour erection he couldn’t quite maintain with Snow Snooki.
Violet
@BGinCHI: Ha ha. Win.
Ryan strikes me as terribly earnest. As is Mitt, in his own way. They’d be a strange combination of earnestness out on the campaign trail. I think it would be rather off-putting. Mitt needs someone either incredibly bland so as to make him look good, or a bulldog like Christie to do his dirty work. Another clean cut earnest boy won’t work.
Violet
@Desargues: Don’t know about Rich Lowry, but there are lots of Republicans who will experience starbursts with Ryan when they never felt a tingle from Palin. The GOP closet is big.
Cassidy
It’s going to be Ryan.
kindness
Meh – I don’t care if Ryan stays a Congressman or not. I suspect he’d be just as big a lying sack of shit out of office as he is in. Fox would bag him.
The only difference would be what the locals in Wisconsin would do. Would they vote someone in who was less a teahaddist? I doubt that. They seem like a very sincere bunch of fascists up there (no offense, but they are fascists).
Personally I wish Romney would choose Michelle Malkin or even go Big Kahuna and pick Rush (the obese idiot, not the rock band..they’re Canadian so they couldn’t run).
Violet
I’m curious how well Bristol will do this time. Her reality show tanked, so she’s not as popular as the Lifetime channel thought. Last time on DWTS, the Palinitas voted for Bristol because they thought someone that would make Sarah run for President. That’s not really an issue now, and even hard core Palin fans have become disillusioned with her. I can’t see them spending their evenings voting via their multiple email accounts for her hypocritical spawn.
Bristol was a terrible dancer and incredibly boring in her interviews last time. It was Sarah’s fan base that pulled her through. I’d be surprised if she lasted past the fourth week this time. I suspect they’ll pair her with an openly gay partner in hopes there will be some fireworks about gay marriage or something.
Spaghetti Lee
So the sociopath who hates poor people and wants the rich to rule the world is going to pick for veep…a sociopath who hates poor people and wants the rich to rule the world? Well, Romney’s certainly done dumber things.
Scott S.
You can’t put someone on reality TV when they’ve got no charisma. Or facial movement.
Desargues
@Violet: Ryan would lock the sexually-unfulfilled Galtian hausfrau vote. And the we’re-so-deep-in-the-closet-we’re-finding-Christmas-presents male Republican vote. An unqualified win, all around.
Spaghetti Lee
@kindness:
(no offense, but they are fascists).
One of the more meaningless ‘no offense’-s I’ve seen in a while.
That district is pretty much all suburb-the most cosmopolitan place in it is probably Kenosha. But there’s actually an aggressive, well-funded Dem running there for the first time in a while, so who knows?
When was the last time a sitting house member was on a presidential ticket, anyway? Did they really try to win both elections at once or did they just retire.
the Conster
Ryan would be awesome campaigning with Romney – every time he talked about his master plan to starve granny, Romney would have to walk it back the same day by having Andrea Saul tell the press that granny should have moved to Massachusetts. The daily campaign dysfunction coming from the top would make McCain/Palin look like the JPL landing Curiousity on Mars.
Davis X. Machina
Ryan would have to go The Statesman route, and that precludes most popular forms of reality television. He’s relying on his (100% specious) policy wonkitude for his credibility, and DWTS would put a hole in that below the waterline.
Thumbsuckers in the Post and Times, a chair at George Mason, stuff like that. No Beckola.
MattF
I’m not so sure– even if you win, VP is a humiliating job. I knew someone who worked on organizing Papa Bush’s VP correspondence– she said that people write to the Vice President only after they’d gotten the brushoff from the Pope and Santa Claus.
Davis X. Machina
@Spaghetti Lee: House members don’t have a great record. Ferraro in ’84 was the last House member of any sort on the D side, Kemp ditto for Team R. (Cheney had been a rep back in the Pleistocene.)
gex
In true family form, the ghost written book should be full of racist and homophobic crap too. That Ryan is naturally not responsible for at all.
Haydnseek
@MikeJ: Neither do I. C’mon Doug. Tough day? Yeah, I know how it goes. When you have Paul Ryan hanging out with Ted Fucking Nugent I know we’re in for some rough sledding in Juiceland. Hey! I know! Paul and Ted could be in the front row of the titty bar while Sarah works out on the pole! Ted could haul out his bow and shoot arrows with dollar bills attached at an apple on her head. Ryan would let Nugent deduct the price of the arrows on his tax return as a business expense. Nugent would let Ryan wear his dumbass camo hat. Now that, my friends, is must see TV!
penpen
Quit trolling us, DougJ.
Linda Featheringill
@Violet: #13
Do you know any women who think that Ryan is handsome and sexy and . . . ?
I mean, I could see how W was good looking in a good-old-boy way but I just don’t see Ryan.
Raven
@Haydnseek: She’s working on the Olangapo City ping pong ball routine as we speak.
gex
@Violet: You know, honestly, I don’t think they care if the shows work. It’s just an excuse for some media company to write a big check to someone in the GOP circle.
dww44
@kindness: I read or heard somewhere yesterday that if he gives up his seat to be Veep nominee, that would make that seat vulnerable to Dems. Also John Nichols had an informative take on Ryan last night on one of the MSNBC shows (The Last Word?): that one-on-one Ryan is a very likeable person and is thus successfully able to mask the extremity of his views. That the district he’s representing is not a hard right one. It’s more of a moderate one and that he’s able to keep his constituents happy. Also that he’s not really a Wisconsin guy;he’s been a Congressional Staffer and lived in DC area for most of the last 20 or 25 years. That if put on an elected Romney ticket he would be the one with all the workable contacts to power on the Hill and elsewhere and that he would thereby be to Romney as Cheney was to Bush. Now, the latter fact is what’s truly interesting to me.
evap
Can Ryan really be VP candidate and run for Congress at the same time? What about VP candidate and run for Senate? I thought both were impossible.
DougJ
@Haydnseek:
If you don’t think the anti-tax show is a good idea, you know nothing about right-wing tv.
DougJ
@evap:
You can do both.
Raven
@evap: Depends on the state rules.
Tehanu
Salinas? I grew up there. The place is tailor-made for Palinites as it’s always been run by big agribiz for its own benefit. I used to treasure a Salinas Chamber of Commerce brochure that had an illustration on the cover of John Steinbeck with his dog Charley, sitting on nearby Mt. Toro looking out over the valley, and the quote: “Salinas, my childhood home, now spreading like crabgrass toward the hills….”
Ella in New Mexico
I would argue that at this point in time, approximately 97% of all Republicans are either running for or in office only as a stepping stone to increase their own personal power, influence, and therefore, wealth. They may share some of the values they espouse, but the truth is they are for sale like a prostitute on a slow night, 30 minutes before the 5am police sweep.
I think I can argue that that number is incredibly lower in the Democratic camp.
Martin
@evap:
Depends. Biden did, but it’s the states that determine whether you’re allowed to run for two offices. Not sure what Wis law is on that.
Comrade Mary
@Linda Featheringill: I’ve got a real weakness for guys somewhere on the dorky-to-conventionally-handsome spectrum, so Ryan, like O’Keefe, is someone who could potentially qualify as attractive to me. But they are both awful, awful people, so they actually qualify as pretty damn loathsome.
Violet
@Linda Featheringill: I wasn’t talking about women…
@gex: I’m sure that’s true to an extent, but when the shows tank as badly as Bristol’s did and they turn into laughingstocks, that’s not good for the GOP (or Palin) brand either.
Martin
Sarah Palin is on the outs because Honey Boo Boo got her own show.
Ryan on the GOP ticket will be a goldmine. Mitt can keep pushing Romneycare while Ryan offers 20% off for the next 100 voters.
Yutsano
@Comrade Mary: Okay I fess up: Ryan isn’t THAT bad looking. But there is just way too much ugly underneath to even think about that. Plus we have our own beautiful little closet cases like Aaron Schock to contend with. Not that the ugly is any better with him.
Martin
@Comrade Mary:
The world needs more women like you.
Haydnseek
@DougJ: Doug! Ya got me all wrong! I know damn good and well that they would watch the hell out of it…
Raven
Aussie chick just gut punched Catchings!
Anoniminous
Since Romney has screwed-up every major decision since 2007 we should be asking, “Who is the worst possible pick?” and go with our best guess.
Spaghetti Lee
@Yutsano:
Aaron Schock, big whoop. I bet Neil Abercrombie could beat him in a boxing match.
Cassidy
@Linda Featheringill: Honestly, I can see he’s not a bad looking dude. He reminds me Paul Rudd, but with dead eyes and no soul.
The Dangerman
Ryan probably won’t be the VP candidate; he’d be the Rock Star of the two candidates. Ryan would sell out, Romney would get the Ford Arena type situations. It would be like a two stage Vegas show; on Stage 1, Carrot Top, and, on Stage 2, Holly Madison working with what the good Doctor(s) gave her. I just don’t see it.
Dennis SGMM
@Raven:
You would mention Olangapo City. I’ve wasted much effort on trying to forget that place.
muddy
@Martin: I think there are a lot of them. In fact, my pref would be down at the dorkier end of the scale, conventionally handsome men are often too aware of that fact, thus nullifying it for me.
muddy
@Cassidy: Dead, granny-starving eyes.
Dave
paul ryan shooting poor people from a helicopter
paul ryan scamming $150k from his PAC for a Land’s End wardrobe
paul ryan’s ghost-written autobiography “Going Rogaine”
paul ryan dying with the stars
paul ryan tattooing his ring finger with “Bristol” in script letters
Quincy
Ryan’s not a grifter, he’s a genuine zealot. He desperately wants to bring the pages of his beloved Rand novels to life. He won’t leave to cash in on Fox unless he became convinced that the legislative prospects for his desired Galtian policies are dead and will remain so for the foreseeable future. At that point he might look for a media outpost from which to spew his adolescent garbage. From what I can tell, he doesn’t care about the wealth or fame he’s a true missionary about his granny-starving.
Hill Dweller
@Raven: That was one of the worst officiated basketball games I’ve ever seen. Almost every key American player was in some sort of foul trouble.
A really good win.
Linda Featheringill
@Cassidy: #48
The eyes are kind of spooky. And I like blue eyes normally.
mb
Serious question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
Serious question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mechwarrior online
Ryan won’t be the VP. Nobody with a serious position, platform or clout within the Republican party will be. Whoever the VP is will have Romneys’ disaster of a campaign and “no true conservative” issues around their neck like a boat anchor for the rest of their lives.
The VP will either be a true culture warrior who believes in their heart that another four years of Obama will be the end of America as we know it and is willing to take the risk to save us from decline, or a washed up has been with no political future at all willing to roll the dice. Ryan, Christie, all the “sexy” options aren’t going to go down with the USS Mitt inc.
If someone thinks they have a shot in 2016, they won’t be Mitts’ VP.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mechwarrior online
Ryan won’t be the VP. Nobody with a serious position, platform or clout within the Republican party will be. Whoever the VP is will have Romneys’ disaster of a campaign and “no true conservative” issues around their neck like a boat anchor for the rest of their lives.
The VP will either be a true culture warrior who believes in their heart that another four years of Obama will be the end of America as we know it and is willing to take the risk to save us from decline, or a washed up has been with no political future at all willing to roll the dice. Ryan, Christie, all the “sexy” options aren’t going to go down with the USS Mitt inc.
If someone thinks they have a shot in 2016, they won’t be Mitts’ VP.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
kindness
OK, OK….I will submit that it is possible the Troglodites who form Ryan’s Congressional District may not be fascists as I mentioned earlier. But they keep electing this guy who openly lies to them and they have to know it. Soooo, stepping down the scale from Fascists I will say (with no more information on the district than Wikipedia & Google allow me) that those good citizens of that district are drugged. Drugged I tell you, drugged. There can be no other reasonable explination.
kindness
OK, OK….I will submit that it is possible the Troglodites who form Ryan’s Congressional District may not be fascists as I mentioned earlier. But they keep electing this guy who openly lies to them and they have to know it. Soooo, stepping down the scale from Fascists I will say (with no more information on the district than Wikipedia & Google allow me) that those good citizens of that district are drugged. Drugged I tell you, drugged. There can be no other reasonable explination.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
kindness
OK, OK….I will submit that it is possible the Troglodites who form Ryan’s Congressional District may not be fascists as I mentioned earlier. But they keep electing this guy who openly lies to them and they have to know it. Soooo, stepping down the scale from Fascists I will say (with no more information on the district than Wikipedia & Google allow me) that those good citizens of that district are drugged. Drugged I tell you, drugged. There can be no other reasonable explination.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
Amanda in the South Bay
I’m not sure I’d say that Salinas is close to Berkeley. Its at least an hour drive, probably a bit more.
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
kindness
Ahhh!!!! Triple bogie.
Raven
@Dennis SGMM: Squids!
mb
question:
does Wisconsin law, which I think would control, allow Ryan to run simultaneously for VP and his House seat? Anybody know the facts on this?
Seems to me, the answer to that will decide whether Ryan is a serious possibility ’cause I don’t think Ryan will want to risk losing both the VP and his House seat.
I do think Romney/Ryan is a loser, but then I’m pretty well convinced that Romney/Anybody is a losing ticket barring the truly unforeseen.
Chris
@Spaghetti Lee:
I can’t think of a single major Republican (presidents, presidential candidates and major Congress people like Newt Gingrich, Tom DeLay, Paul Ryan) in the last thirty years who hasn’t been a sociopath who wanted the rich to rule the world and, if he didn’t hate the poor, considered them beneath his notice or concern. It’s rather a litmus test these days.
But some of them have been better at hiding it than others. Neither Romney nor Ryan are among those, though.
Dave
question:
does Wisconsin law,
[EXPLODES INTO A GIANT FIREBALL]
Turgidson
@Chris:
Hilariously/tragically, the closest thing to an exception to this ironclad rule is probably Dubya himself, who actually expressed concern at one point about balancing the budget on the backs of the poor.
I imagine he had that little bit of youthful indiscretion beaten out of him behind closed doors. And as we are painfully aware, his policies ended up not caring about balancing the budget at all.
negative 1
He will not be VP. I will bang this drum until it bleeds. WSJ makes the correct argument with the incorrect conclusion. They need to — they have to appear to be ‘only concerned with the economy, hence they are conservative’. It pulls back the curtain if they say they’re bigots and greedy. In real life, any of the reasons they list are enough for Rmoney not to pick him, but shifting the debate away from the economy again is enough to send them running. It won’t be Ryan. My guess is someone more libertarian then we are all guessing. It gives him a demographic he doesn’t seem to have and skews the ticket appeal younger (remember – all young Rs are libertarians, no one under 40 calls themselves conservative).
Culture of Truth
[EXPLODES INTO A GIANT FIREBALL]
@Dave: What are you doing, Dave?
gvg
Hmm, I wondered what the GOP was thinking when they put him house budget committee right after the 2010 wave. I thought they were crazy to let a crazy be that visible and I knew he was extremist in a way that would scare the elderly which has been a key GOP voting block. It just seemed like a stupid unforced error on their part. Sure enough, he proposed crazy scary stuff and they’ve been trying to keep people from remembering ever since-but they still voted to support his nonsense even after the outcry, and it’s on the records of a lot of them now.
I don’t know what they will do but a lot of them do seem to actually think the reality of libertarian is popular.
muddy
@kindness:
I heard it was the brown acid. Turns them against brown of any sort. Also nearness, might set off bad flashback.
Culture of Truth
@negative 1: Penn Gillette. Like Teller, Romney can just shut up while Penn does all the talking.
Chris
@Turgidson:
Don’t recall that. Did the “concern” extend to anything other than “hmm, what a shame – oh well, let’s get back to it?”
Don’t get me wrong – that is superhumanly remarkable coming from any contemporary Republican.
muddy
I can’t see how that would be a positive.
asiangrrlMN
I don’t find Paul Ryan attractive at all – but I take personality and character into account when I think of someone’s pulchritude. As for his actual assets – I don’t see him wanting to be associated with Romney, never mind the reverse.
I’m telling you – Romney should choose me as his VP selection. It would at least make the campaign interesting.
mechwarrior online
@Chris:
To be fair, Bob Dole and other Republicans attacked Clinton because his Welfare reform went to far and was going to hurt poor children.
It’s often ignored, but as recently as Clinton prominent Republicans were telling him that Welfare slashing was evil.
mb
At the risk of repeating myself…
sorry for all the posts — not my fault, honestly.
BGinCHI
@mb:
At the risk of repeating myself…
sorry for all the posts—not my fault, honestly.
PurpleGirl
Sorry, but Paul Ryan reminds me of the dorky kid on The Munsters, and he don’t do anything for me at all.
Mike in NC
Paul Ryan just needs a p0rn star mustache.
Chris
@mechwarrior online:
Sounds like the more recent squeals of outrage at Obama for the way HCR supposedly cuts Medicare.
muddy
You should both tell the truth, we all know you posted 100 times on purpose, and then pretended it was all poor WP’s fault.
Comrade Mary
@Dave: OK, I laughed. Hard.
negative 1
@Culture of Truth: Although Teller theoretically brings something to the table in that relationship.
sfrefugee
Wow.
No way is Palin anything like Bobby McGee.
Also, too, you’re no Janis…. sorry.
Pat
Just what Ryan would be without Congress since 1998 shows the true colors of Cheney’s choice of idols, and without more, Ryan may run out of road to haul Romney over the line.