Yeah! Let’s not raise money for Barack Obama so we can have President Romney and VP Ryan!
Because that’ll be so much better.
ETA: Really, mclaren, get a grip. Whatever your disagreements with President Obama, and I certainly don’t think he’s perfect, they’ve got to be miniscule compared to the harm that would be thrust on the nation by a Ryan/Romney administration.
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3.
Smiling Mortician
@mclaren: Your skill in deploying straw men might qualify you for a job in the RomneyRyan campaign. Have you applied yet?
4.
Yutsano
@JGabriel: Not to mclaren. According to her, only the massive suffering and depredation that would occur under a Romney presidency will wake up the people enough to enlightened progressive paradise.
I need suggestions. I’m maxed out to Obama. What would be the most cost effective alternate contribution to reelect Barak Obama for those who are maxed out?
@EL: I’m in the same boat. Start with the most competitive House and Senate races in your area. Keeping the Senate and retaking the House are key to much of anything getting done in the next 2 years.
I have contributed to the Orange to Blue list for the House. I’ll look into OFA or Priorities. Anyone have a sense of which is the most bang for buck?
16.
EL
I have contributed to the Orange to Blue list for the House. I’ll look into OFA or Priorities. Anyone have a sense of which is the most bang for buck?
17.
EL
@DougJ: Have you considered a “maxed out” solicitation post with thermometer thingy? The GOS had something like that in 2008, soliciting contributions of $20.08 or multiples thereof.
Wow, first you defend the CIA guy who said waterboarding worked as a “whistleblower,” and then you decide an accused rapist trying to avoid prosecution is your next cause celebre.
You sure can pick ’em.
ETA: And I’m sure Assange doesn’t think of himself as a rapist. Neither did Sandusky, which is why we let courts decide these things rather than letting suspects look into their hearts and decide how they feel about it.
@Yutsano: oh, the old “heighten the distinctions” marxist argument that Ramparts used to support Reagan for governor of California and that Nader occasionally slipped into when he forgot to wear his mclaren-y “both sides are the same” face.
Sam Wang at Princeton, who did better than Nate Silver at predicting the 2008 election, argues that your money this year has maximum leverage in competitive Senate elections, to keep control from passing to the Republican Party:
He has an ActBlue page linked from there that lists the races he thinks are on a knife-edge.
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jacksmith
“Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!” – Patrick Henry
What a brilliant ruling by the United States Supreme Court on the affordable health care act (Obamacare). Stunningly brilliant in my humble opinion. I could not have ask for a better ruling on a potentially catastrophic healthcare act than We The People Of The United States received from our Supreme Court.
If the court had upheld the constitutionality of the individual mandate under the commerce clause it would have meant the catastrophic loss of the most precious thing we own. Our individual liberty. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Supreme Court.
There is no mandate to buy private for-profit health insurance. There is only a nominal tax on income eligible individuals who don’t have health insurance. This is a HUGE! difference. And I suspect that tax may be subject to constitutional challenge as it ripens.
This is a critically important distinction. Because under the commerce clause individuals would have been compelled to support the most costly, dangerous, unethical, morally repugnant, and defective type of health insurance you can have. For-profit health insurance, and the for-profit proxies called private non-profits and co-ops.
Equally impressive in the courts ruling was the majorities willingness to throw out the whole law if the court could not find a way to sever the individual mandate under the commerce clause from the rest of the act. Bravo! Supreme Court.
Thanks to the Supreme Court we now have an opportunity to fix our healthcare crisis the right way. Without the obscene delusion that Washington can get away with forcing Americans to buy a costly, dangerous and highly defective private product (for-profit health insurance).
During the passage of ACA/Obamacare some politicians said that the ACA was better than nothing. But the truth was that until the Supreme Court fixed it the ACA/Obamacare was worse than nothing at all. It would have meant the catastrophic loss of your precious liberty for the false promise and illusion of healthcare security under the deadly and costly for-profit healthcare system that dominates American healthcare.
As everyone knows now. The fix for our healthcare crisis is a single payer system (Medicare for all) like the rest of the developed world has. Or a robust Public Option choice available to everyone on day one that can quickly lead to a single payer system.
Talk of privatizing/profiteering from Medicare or social security is highly corrupt and Crazy! talk. And you should cut the political throats of any politicians giving lip service to such an asinine idea. Medicare should be expanded, not privatized or eliminated.
We still have a healthcare crisis in America. With hundreds of thousands dieing needlessly every year in America. And a for-profit medical industrial complex that threatens the security and health of the entire world. The ACA/Obamacare will not fix that.
The for-profit medical industrial complex has already attacked the world with H1N1 killing thousands, and injuring millions. And more attacks are planned for profit, and to feed their greed.
To all of you who have fought so hard to do the kind and right thing for your fellow human beings at a time of our greatest needs I applaud you. Be proud of your-self.
God Bless You my fellow human beings. I’m proud to be one of you. You did good.
See you on the battle field.
Sincerely
jacksmith – WorkingClass :-)
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mclaren
Yeah! Let’s raise money for Barack Obama so he can continue his war on whistleblowers who are exposing government corruption, and so he can continue his endless unwinnable foreign wars, and sign off on more tax cuts for billionaires!
Yeah, man! Sign me up!
JGabriel
Yeah! Let’s not raise money for Barack Obama so we can have President Romney and VP Ryan!
Because that’ll be so much better.
ETA: Really, mclaren, get a grip. Whatever your disagreements with President Obama, and I certainly don’t think he’s perfect, they’ve got to be miniscule compared to the harm that would be thrust on the nation by a Ryan/Romney administration.
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Smiling Mortician
@mclaren: Your skill in deploying straw men might qualify you for a job in the RomneyRyan campaign. Have you applied yet?
Yutsano
@JGabriel: Not to mclaren. According to her, only the massive suffering and depredation that would occur under a Romney presidency will wake up the people enough to enlightened progressive paradise.
The unicorn is not impressed…
EL
I need suggestions. I’m maxed out to Obama. What would be the most cost effective alternate contribution to reelect Barak Obama for those who are maxed out?
DougJ
@EL:
DNC
Yutsano
@EL: Can you still donate to OFA? If not, get him a better House and Senate, that will help just as much.
JGabriel
@EL, @DougJ: Also, Priorities USA.
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? Martin
@EL: I’m in the same boat. Start with the most competitive House and Senate races in your area. Keeping the Senate and retaking the House are key to much of anything getting done in the next 2 years.
JGabriel
@Yutsano: Heh.
Anya
@EL: OFA. Also, too what everyone else said.
wrb
@EL:
Winning the House back. Contribute to the best candidates in tight races.
We’re just going to have more paralysis w/o the House.
HinTN
We need a better Congress. PERIOD Get out and work for it.
taylormattd
@mclaren: Fuck off.
EL
I have contributed to the Orange to Blue list for the House. I’ll look into OFA or Priorities. Anyone have a sense of which is the most bang for buck?
EL
I have contributed to the Orange to Blue list for the House. I’ll look into OFA or Priorities. Anyone have a sense of which is the most bang for buck?
EL
@DougJ: Have you considered a “maxed out” solicitation post with thermometer thingy? The GOS had something like that in 2008, soliciting contributions of $20.08 or multiples thereof.
DougJ
@EL:
I’ll think about it, sounds like a great idea.
Mnemosyne
@mclaren:
Wow, first you defend the CIA guy who said waterboarding worked as a “whistleblower,” and then you decide an accused rapist trying to avoid prosecution is your next cause celebre.
You sure can pick ’em.
ETA: And I’m sure Assange doesn’t think of himself as a rapist. Neither did Sandusky, which is why we let courts decide these things rather than letting suspects look into their hearts and decide how they feel about it.
xian
@Yutsano: oh, the old “heighten the distinctions” marxist argument that Ramparts used to support Reagan for governor of California and that Nader occasionally slipped into when he forgot to wear his mclaren-y “both sides are the same” face.
xian
@EL: I’d say House and Senate races are where the action is for the future of the country.
Matt McIrvin
Sam Wang at Princeton, who did better than Nate Silver at predicting the 2008 election, argues that your money this year has maximum leverage in competitive Senate elections, to keep control from passing to the Republican Party:
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/08/09/maximize-your-campaign-leverage/
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/08/16/the-ryan-bounce-senate-messaging/
He has an ActBlue page linked from there that lists the races he thinks are on a knife-edge.
jacksmith
“Give me Liberty, or Give me Death!” – Patrick Henry
What a brilliant ruling by the United States Supreme Court on the affordable health care act (Obamacare). Stunningly brilliant in my humble opinion. I could not have ask for a better ruling on a potentially catastrophic healthcare act than We The People Of The United States received from our Supreme Court.
If the court had upheld the constitutionality of the individual mandate under the commerce clause it would have meant the catastrophic loss of the most precious thing we own. Our individual liberty. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! Supreme Court.
There is no mandate to buy private for-profit health insurance. There is only a nominal tax on income eligible individuals who don’t have health insurance. This is a HUGE! difference. And I suspect that tax may be subject to constitutional challenge as it ripens.
This is a critically important distinction. Because under the commerce clause individuals would have been compelled to support the most costly, dangerous, unethical, morally repugnant, and defective type of health insurance you can have. For-profit health insurance, and the for-profit proxies called private non-profits and co-ops.
Equally impressive in the courts ruling was the majorities willingness to throw out the whole law if the court could not find a way to sever the individual mandate under the commerce clause from the rest of the act. Bravo! Supreme Court.
Thanks to the Supreme Court we now have an opportunity to fix our healthcare crisis the right way. Without the obscene delusion that Washington can get away with forcing Americans to buy a costly, dangerous and highly defective private product (for-profit health insurance).
During the passage of ACA/Obamacare some politicians said that the ACA was better than nothing. But the truth was that until the Supreme Court fixed it the ACA/Obamacare was worse than nothing at all. It would have meant the catastrophic loss of your precious liberty for the false promise and illusion of healthcare security under the deadly and costly for-profit healthcare system that dominates American healthcare.
As everyone knows now. The fix for our healthcare crisis is a single payer system (Medicare for all) like the rest of the developed world has. Or a robust Public Option choice available to everyone on day one that can quickly lead to a single payer system.
Talk of privatizing/profiteering from Medicare or social security is highly corrupt and Crazy! talk. And you should cut the political throats of any politicians giving lip service to such an asinine idea. Medicare should be expanded, not privatized or eliminated.
We still have a healthcare crisis in America. With hundreds of thousands dieing needlessly every year in America. And a for-profit medical industrial complex that threatens the security and health of the entire world. The ACA/Obamacare will not fix that.
The for-profit medical industrial complex has already attacked the world with H1N1 killing thousands, and injuring millions. And more attacks are planned for profit, and to feed their greed.
To all of you who have fought so hard to do the kind and right thing for your fellow human beings at a time of our greatest needs I applaud you. Be proud of your-self.
God Bless You my fellow human beings. I’m proud to be one of you. You did good.
See you on the battle field.
Sincerely
jacksmith – WorkingClass :-)