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  1. 1.

    beltane

    The wording of that story, not only the sentiment expressed, is very strange. The Republicans have turned all of us into ESL students.

  2. 2.

    BGinCHI

    I think I got it.

    A permissive society leads to rape and the degradation of women.

    A repressive society leads to women who have been raped and degraded knowing when to shut their dirty mouths.

  4. 4.

    RedKitten

    Yup. Today’s permissive culture degrades women. In fact, we should show women the proper respect by protecting them from lustful male gazes. Only when our women are covered head-to-toe and cloistered inside their homes will we TRULY be showing them the respect that they deserve.

  5. 5.

    johnny gentle famous crooner

    Obviously, it’s Kaplan Daily’s entry for the Contrarian View of the Year award.

    Because the mark of good journalism is searching under every rock in an obvious and embarrassing effort to show that you didn’t know everything about a story. Even when you actually did.

    It’s like an offshoot of gotcha journalism; it’s “bet’cha didn’t think of that, did ya, smart guy?” journalism.

  6. 6.

    WereBear

    It’s just that now they know it occurs!

    It was so much better for our beautiful minds when the people who got raped took the blame and didn’t even tell anyone!

    Now, isn’t that tidier?

  7. 7.

    cathyx

    See, women are dressing too provocatively lately, and so it’s no surprise they get raped. In fact, they kinda deserve it. And then, it’s not really rape, especially if they get pregnant. They were just asking for it.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    The vile hussies are being PUNISHED by the angry asshole sky buddy for their wantonness! That’s what’s important here, that they suffer for their sluttiness!

  10. 10.

    Ashley

    Yeah, that headline is weird, but that article is mostly about a bunch of stupid white women who don’t think there’s actually any inequality between genders. Probably cause one of them “married the boss.”

  11. 11.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @RedKitten:

    Only when our women are covered head-to-toe and cloistered inside their homes will we TRULY be showing them the respect that they deserve.

    And they scoff when we call them talibangicals.

  13. 13.

    beltane

    Men really need to be protected from these dirty slutty females seeking to get themselves impregnated so they can enjoy fun times at the abortionplex.

  14. 14.

    WereBear

    And I don’t see how “today’s permissive culture degrades women,” even though they have been trying to sell me this crap for decades now.

    Society acknowledging I have a brain, being able to have my own job and bank accounts and autonomy, being worth something even if unmarried, having it not matter if I bear children or not, and not needing anyone’s permission to be an adult… how is that degrading me, again?

  15. 15.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @WereBear:

    how is that degrading me, again?

    Your beautiful mind should be concentrating on getting me a sammich, woman!

  16. 16.

    Soprano2live

    I live in SWMO, that doesn’t surprise me at all. We once had a female state rep who said women are “asking for it when they wear those short skirts.”

  18. 18.

    General Stuck

    This moron didn’t just fall off the turnip truck, with is crackpot science theories on female reproduction. Somebody had to have been voting for him, and his prehistoric attitudes toward the female of the species.

    Evangelical women buy into all sorts of the same crap the males dictate to the congregation. Barefoot, pregnant, puttering around the kitchen, being seen but not heard. Etc…… Which is also good for the economy when christian wives largely populate the countries for profit psych hospitals, for treating depression that is more oppression in disguise.

    When all the onion is pealed away from these dickheads, almost everything they do can be traced to a need to control women folk from complicating their lives with all the equality mumbo jumbo the liberals are always yakking about.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    FTA:

    They are women who think that they have in some ways become less liberated in recent decades, not more; who think that easy abortion, easy birth control and a tawdry popular culture have degraded their stature, not elevated it. Though the women here were of varying faiths and economic backgrounds, they were white and bound by a shared unease with Obama in particular and liberals in general, who seemed so often to hold them in contempt.
    …..
    “Is a ‘liberated woman’ really freer?” asked Rottler, who has two adopted children. “To me, a woman should be on a pedestal. We are special — we bear children, we take care of children, we’re working. Actually, if we had our heads on straight, women could really run the world. Actually, we do run the world.”

  21. 21.

    RedKitten

    @WereBear: You’re degraded because you have to work, you poor thing, instead of your husband taking proper care of you. Once the Republicans are elected, they can return America to its glory days, when women were taken care of by their men. They stayed at home with their children, instead of letting some daycare raise them, took pride in a clean home and hot supper on the table, and all was right with the world.

    The right-wingers simply want to return to those halcyon days. And if our wants and needs are contrary to that? Well, we’re just not proper women, then.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    If the goal is to prevent the women folk from being degraded, I wonder what Balloon Juice will be like when they’re banned from this blog.

  27. 27.

    NancyDarling

    I have found, living amongst folks like those Missouri women, that the question that stops a lot of them in their tracks is about IVF. Almost everyone has a family member or knows someone who has conceived through IVF. When you ask them about all those little unused “souls on ice”, they get a look of pain and then usually throw up their hands and walk away. They also are not monolithic in believing that rape babies should be carried to term. A really bad fetal abnormality will send some scurrying to an abortionist.

  29. 29.

    Gravenstone

    @RedKitten:

    You’re degraded because you have to work, you poor thing, instead of your husband taking proper care of you.

    Some enterprising soul should ask these ladies why their husbands can’t make enough to take care of them in that noble fantasy world their fantasies demand. Hint, it’s because they support assholes like Akin who have worked for decades to undercut their own constituents lives and livelihoods.

  30. 30.

    General Stuck

    But after reading a poll today, something that has confounded me for a long time, is why there is such a wide space between single women and married ones when it comes to voting. That right now Obama is like 20 points ahead with single women, and Romney is about the same for married women. I don’t get it.

  31. 31.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Baud:

    I wonder what Balloon Juice will be like when they’re banned from this blog.

    A really dismal place. No ABL, No Kay, no Anne Laurie, no TaMara, no…SHUDDER…SPaT…

    Not to mention all our glorious female commentors.

    A very dismal place. Not even DougJ’s trolling will be enough to brighten it up.

  32. 32.

    Darkrose

    Though the women here were of varying faiths and economic backgrounds, they were white and bound by a shared unease with Obama in particular and liberals in general, who seemed so often to hold them in contempt.

    Hmm…wonder why a bunch of white women who lament that they’re no longer on a pedestal would have a problem with Obama? There must be something about him…I can’t think what…

  35. 35.

    RedKitten

    @Gravenstone: No, no, no. It’s all the fault of the women’s libbers, and then it became the fault of the immigrants.

    Oh, if only we could return to the day when only white men could obtain gainful employment in America!

  36. 36.

    Roger Moore

    @WereBear:

    Society acknowledging I have a brain, being able to have my own job and bank accounts and autonomy, being worth something even if unmarried, having it not matter if I bear children or not, and not needing anyone’s permission to be an adult… how is that degrading me, again?

    It’s separating you from God, which is inherently degrading. God wants women to be barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen, and you’re rebelling against him with your attempts to be independent of menfolk.

  38. 38.

    beltane

    @Baud: I don’t want to sound catty but Mrs. Rottler sounds like a infertile woman whose mind has been utterly corroded by envy towards those women who are more fecund than herself. Every last one of these women who mourn the availability of contraception are what used to be known as “frigid” and are also highly hostile to men in their own way.

  41. 41.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Roger Moore:

    It’s separating you from God, which is inherently degrading.

    That’s essentially why Michelle Bachmann thinks the Renaissance was a mistake. It separated us from God.

    And the Dark Ages.

  43. 43.

    Chyron HR

    Though the women here were of varying faiths

    Some of them disagreed about the best way to serve God–such a variety of opinion! Why don’t you libs respect their diversity?

  44. 44.

    RedKitten

    @General Stuck: Because like it or not, it seems that a lot of women, particularly once they have children, become more ideologically staid. A single girl who was footloose and fancy free will suddenly start going to church regularly in order to “raise the kids with good morals and values”, will start worrying about things like nudity on television, and starts seeking the illusory safety of conventionality. Not all women are like this obviously. But I’ve seen it happen to a lot of them — they pop out a baby and next thing you know they’re going to church every Sunday, sporting a “mom ‘do” and a sweatshirt with kittens on it, and fretting about teenagers having sex.

  45. 45.

    beltane

    @Chyron HR: Some were Pentcostal, some Baptist, and some attend services at a non-denominational church. Can’t you smell the diversity?

  47. 47.

    Roger Moore

    @General Stuck:

    But after reading a poll today, something that has confounded me for a long time, is why there is such a wide space between single women and married ones when it comes to voting.

    As an off guess, some of that difference is because married women have some of the same demographic skew that generally favors Republicans, i.e. they’re older, whiter, straighter, and more religious than unmarried women are.

  48. 48.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @raven:

    Agreed.

    Even when I see FTE (Full Time Equivalent) my brain sees FTA. Every time I see FTA, the Army thing comes to mind, without any prompting.

    If you’ve served, it’s burned into your brain.

  50. 50.

    Heliopause

    Can somebody explain Doug’s point here? Seriously, I don’t get it.

    A poll shows that 37% of Missouri women still plan to vote for Akin even after his mind-boggling remarks.

  52. 52.

    Recall

    FTA:

    She and her husband never had children, which she called a “conscious choice” of the sort she figures all women have.

  53. 53.

    WereBear

    @RedKitten: I think of it as the “power of modeling.” Whether we want to emulate how we were parented, or not, it is a powerful influence on how we parent.

    The security of doing it the way Mom would at least brings Mom’s approval.

  54. 54.

    Darkrose

    @Heliopause: The headline refers to his “rape comments”. Which ones? The “you can’t get pregnant if you’re raped because your ladyparts have magic secretions?” The “bitches lie” implication?

  56. 56.

    Heliopause

    @Darkrose:

    The headline refers to his “rape comments”. Which ones?

    That’s it? The headline is unclear on which of two stupidass things Akin said is being referred to? Why would anybody blog about that?

  57. 57.

    Kathy in St. Louis

    Seriously, Fenton Missouri is a suburb of St. Louis that straddles the line between St. Louis County and Jefferson county. Joyce Meyer ministries has its headquarters in Fenton. There’s a fundie Church on every corner. This is no surprise to me. Lots of truly one dimensional, one track, bible loving people there. But even in Fenton, this is still a minority opinion. When you get out of the Kansas City and St. Louis areas and into the rural areas of Missouri, it’s a lot more like this. And Missouri is more rural than urban, and those folks hate the city. You just have to remember with Todd Akin that he’s a 66 year old man with two degrees, a wife and daughters and grandchildren. It takes willful ignorance to still hold positions such as his when you’ve been on earth, in college, and actually awake for all that time and still think the ideas he espouses. And he is, obviously, not alone.

  58. 58.

    Linda Featheringill

    and liberals in general, who seemed so often to hold them in contempt.

    Yes. Yes, I do.

  59. 59.

    Mnemosyne

    There are, unfortunately, quite a few women who live inside a comfortable conservative bubble and have never had to confront anything ugly or hard in their lives, like finding out six months into a pregnancy that their wanted baby doesn’t have a brain and will not survive to be born. So it’s easy for them to hand-wave away an impoverished woman who’s pregnant with a child she doesn’t want — she made bad decisions! She should have planned better, like they did!

  60. 60.

    Djur

    @Darkrose: @Heliopause: It’s not the headline, it’s the text. What does “today’s permissive culture degrad[ing] women” have to do with Akin’s claim that rape victims do not get pregnant?

    It might as well be “Conservatives agree with Akin’s stance, saying that those Russian nesting dolls are really cute.”

  61. 61.

    Kerry Reid

    @Linda Featheringill: And it’s really unfair, because they always say such loving things about us godless anti-American feminazi liberals in fake hate-America-pallin-around-with-terrorists-land! I mean, obviously even Tom Brokaw would be hard-pressed to say “both sides do it,” when it’s only us babykilling AIDS-spreading homo-loving degenerates who want to destroy America from within who say mean thing!

    Okay, yeah — I too hold idiot wingnuts in contempt. I refuse to insult them with the soft bigotry of low expectations, after all.

    The difference is I merely hold them in contempt — whilst trying to preserve a social safety net that helps them as well as the rest of the 99 percent. They, on the other hand, get their bubble-headed adolescent fee-fees hurt because Amurrica elected the uppity NI-CLANG!!! and therefore WE MUST ALL SUFFER!!!

  62. 62.

    danah gaz (fka gaz)

    @RedKitten: you just described my neighbor. and one of my sisters. (and many more, who I am vaguely acquainted with in one way or another)

    Luckily, at least in my sister’s case, she’s no fool. She didn’t adopt the bigotry and judgement of others that so often comes along with that born-again-soccer-mom transformation. She’s survived too much crap to suffer that nonsense. I respect her.

  63. 63.

    Heliopause

    @Djur:

    What does “today’s permissive culture degrad[ing] women” have to do with Akin’s claim that rape victims do not get pregnant?

    If that’s the conclusion that a significant percentage of Missourians draw then I still don’t get why that’s not a story. Don’t you want to know if 40-some percent of your fellow citizens, including 30-some percent of women, think this? Doug’s post said that it was “weird” that the WaPo would tell us about this. I’m afraid I still don’t get why it’s “weird” to tell me that millions of my fellow citizens believe this stuff.

  65. 65.

    Brachiator

    “To me, a woman should be on a pedestal. We are special — we bear children, we take care of children, we’re working. Actually, if we had our heads on straight, women could really run the world.

    Funny. Seems to me that it is really hard to stand on a pedestal. You can’t do much except be admired, maybe worshipped. Can’t even dodge bird shit.

    And while a number of world rulers have had pretty nifty thrones, I am not aware of any who tried to govern from a pedestal.

    Some of them disagreed about the best way to serve God

    RUN. It’s a cookbook!

  68. 68.

    Liberty60

    Its not surprising at all.

    Some of the most adrent defenders of patriarchy- even Sharia Law style- are women.

    Even within the walls of oppression, there are members of the oppressed group who personally benefit from the oppression.

    Insert your own Godwin / plantation reference here.

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