Tell me it would be sad if a meteor eradicated all these sociopaths.
Update. Various winger agreement.
Burn Kaplan the fuck down. Kay Graham would have wanted it that way, that’s for sure.
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Tell me it would be sad if a meteor eradicated all these sociopaths.
Update. Various winger agreement.
Burn Kaplan the fuck down. Kay Graham would have wanted it that way, that’s for sure.
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Dr. Loveless
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jwb
It would be sad if a meteor…
No, it would be justice if a meteor eradicated these sociopaths.
KG
@jwb: It’d be sad for the meteor
Just Some Fuckhead
The last person Brit Hume schooled killed himself.
Too soon??
Abstruse
I don’t get it :-/
Ash Can
After this afternoon’s highly entertaining “RNCpowergrab” Twitter feed, I’ll be disappointed if no Paulistas/Tealibans started any wastebasket fires on the floor of the con tonight.
arguingwithsignposts
Is J. Williams Juan Williams?
Reklam
If a meteor did, some stupid evil billionaire would just re-create them for his own amusement and to wreak major havoc again…
“What? There is no unauthorized breeding outside the Village!”
DougJ
@arguingwithsignposts:
Yes
KG
If I didn’t know better, I’d say that Santorum almost dropped the f-bomb on msnbc
Ash Can
@efgoldman: Those guys are such fucking pikers. All whining, no action.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m shocked that neo-con Marty Peretz protégé Chuckie Lane sits at home giggling along with Brit Hume. I wonder if The Washington Post is less liberal than people say.
Rick Santorum on MSNBC (“my dear friend…” as Rachel Maddow threw it to Andrea Mitchell) looks even more like a demented Howdy Doody doll than usual. Now, she issues a correction “In fact, he won’t even talk to me”
Odie Hugh Manatee
Santorum with Mrs. Greenspan a few minutes ago:
Of course Andrea passed up the chance to ask him exactly who these Republican governors are that want to weaken the welfare work requirements.
I’m sure that these Republican governors would like to know too.
clayton
@Dr. Loveless:
I would guess that is a swipe at the ever more powerful lobby against black bear hunting that is going on in the north west.
The bears and their followers are gaining strength year by year.
Just Some Fuckhead
@KG:
What did the blahs do now???
Jamey
@Just Some Fuckhead: I don’t get it…
Wildcat12
Does anyone have video of said “schooling?”
Also, gotta give it to the wingnuts at Politico. They dominate the comment section but still say the thing is in the tank for Obama.
Keith G
Sooo, someone actually cares what those peeps tweet?
Too much spare time, I guess.
Wake me up when September ends.
Mr Stagger Lee
In an era a Hollywood remakes, perhaps we can do a remake of that great Leni Riefenstahl classic, except lets call it Triumph of the Swill about the 2012 GOP Convention.
NotMax
@Mr Stagger Lee
Or Triumph of the Shrill
spiffy
I hope Juan Williams gets paid handsomely to be the token FOX News’ punching bag.
I guess we know how much self-esteem he has.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Rachel: “Condoleeza Rice is beloved and respected” By whom?
KG
@Just Some Fuckhead: I think it was just a twitch in my cable feed as he was starting to say a word that starts with F.
Hill Dweller
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Mrs. Greenspan is every bit as awful as Dancin’ Dave and Brokaw.
Lev
Good to know Lane’s as good a parent as he is a pundit. Poor kid is going to be irrationally angry for the rest of his life.
Steve
@efgoldman: O’Keefe’s attorney regularly files motions to allow him to travel outside the state of New Jersey, to speak at Koch Brothers functions and the like. The motions are never opposed by the DOJ and are routinely granted by the court. I don’t see any motion asking for permission to travel to the RNC…
Spaghetti Lee
I did predict that there would be a racial slur shouted by a teabagger attendee at Tampa. I didn’t predict that it would be on the first day or that it would be directed at a cameraperson for a major news network. It’s like the GOP undergoes this great effort to say “We’re not racist! Look at how diverse we are!” Then some beer-stained-underwear yahoo goes and fucks them over on the first day. It’s almost amazing to watch. I feel like it’s a Truman Show-type thing where it’s all being put on to personally confirm my worst expectations.
Just Some Fuckhead
@KG:
It wouldn’t surprise me to find out the blahs were up to something.
Enhanced Voting Techniques
@Dr. Loveless: Well they went there, wow.
SectarianSofa
Figures. Charles Lane’s son screams at the television, pointing at Juan Williams (cowering before Brit Hume) — ‘Factchecked, bitch!’. Then he high fives his father.
This is all a parody, right? The GOP convention and all? A bad dream? Fuck, I really want to wake up from this one.
shep
Not me. But you mean psychopaths. If they were sociopaths, they’d be in prison, not Bethesda/Chevy Chase (and Manhattan and Connecticut). Psychopathy is a personality disorder marked by a distinct lack of normal empathy (sympathy) as in our business and media elites. Sociopath (antisocial personality disorder) means you did some bad stuff and got caught. The former you see on MSNBC during the week, the latter you see on MSNBC on the weekend.
SectarianSofa
I wish we could get all these jokers high, stick them in room with tapestries and throw pillows, and force them to listen to Cat Stevens.
And then, because that room is on a big fucking boat that’s sailing to Argentina — everyone wins.
SectarianSofa
@shep:
I am not a lawyer, but that sounds suspect. When I was a fake psychologist, those terms were way different. But hey, this framework is just a social construct anyway, right?
SectarianSofa
@shep:
Yeah, and checking the
DSM-IV-TRInternets, it looks like you made that up. Or do they have a different insurance adjustment diagnostic manual where you’re from?xian
@shep: psychopath and sociopath are synonyms
Another Halocene Human
@efgoldman: Deficit is the new Ni*clang*. We know this is so because the TPers didn’t even know what a deficit was under Dubya.
However, I wouldn’t drink every time they haul out the d-word unless you have a very strong liver.
shep
@SectarianSofa: Antisocial Personality Disorder is in the DSM, psychopathy is not. That’s the point, Poindexter. Same with you xian. They are not synonymous.
SectarianSofa
@shep:
Meh. You says, while commenting on someone’s blog post, “If they were sociopaths, they’d be in prison”, which is obviously not in the DSM.
Not that I should attempt to stop you from making glib pronouncements, since that’s my specialty (probably under APD in the DSM-IV).
Which is to say, to your original point — no, he did actually mean “sociopaths”. Or not, because some shit about what again?
shep
@SectarianSofa: Read something. Then get back to me.
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/25078.php
http://www.hare.org/
SectarianSofa
@shep:
That’s your research? Seriously, though, you might be an idiot.
Nevertheless, as I somewhat alluded to, I’m being fucking glib. Might as well drop it. Or admit your original point was wrong and then drop it, either way.
Djur
@shep: “Sociopathy” isn’t a strict synonym for ASPD. Psychopathy and ASPD are different, yes, but “sociopathy” is used to refer to both. There is no formal definition of “sociopath”.
You sure talk a lot of shit for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
TG Chicago
@spiffy: Exactly. Do they not realize that getting “schooled” by the conservative (white) men on the panel is precisely Juan Williams’ job?
Do people on the right think that Juan Williams actually speaks for the left? Do they not realize that we mock and vilify him?
shep
@Djur:
“Asshole” is used to refer to different things as well. But maybe it’s a distinction without a difference too.
shep
@SectarianSofa:
Well, if you covered all of Dr. Hare’s site in less than ten minutes, you’re certainly no idiot. Just a lazy blowhard. And when I said “get back to me,”…
SectarianSofa
@shep:
Sigh. Really? Do you think everyone needs to research shit that you don’t know?
SectarianSofa
@shep:
Funny, too, how a dictionary and a DSM and a philology lesson and Humpty-Dumpty can all have slightly different understandings of something so simple as a word! It’s almost as if there was some prior existence of this idea, which could be traced to multiple sources, tangled but distinct, alive, moving in some conceptual excrudescence towards an overdetermined but actual meaning that flips and flops and says, boldly for such an unframable thing, ‘No, sorry, but your original point is still wrong!’ (Or at best, superfluous.) That’s just sometimes how it is.
Anne Laurie
@xian:
They’re both imprecise terms for someone with a “empathy deficit”… although, in common usage, a “psychopath” is someone who’s been caught doing something physically violent/distasteful (like child rape or cannibalism) while a “sociopath” is a person in a position of power who’s been caught doing something extremely illegal/destructive. Charles Manson is called a psychopath, but Dick Cheney is a sociopath.
shep
@SectarianSofa:
Not all all. “Psychopath” is the correct term for someone with an abnormal lack of empathy (sympathy for the suffering of others, really, according to both clinical and common understanding). But few people understand the distinct meaning, so you’re in good company (whether they deserve it or not).
SectarianSofa
@Anne Laurie:
We need a better hobby.
SectarianSofa
@shep:
You originally commented with a ‘correction’ to “Tell me it would be sad if a meteor eradicated all these sociopaths”, and you’ve arrived at the belief that I don’t understand the distinction in meaning between terms you apply so indiscriminately? Nice junkyard psychologizing and all, but no. I must decline your prescription.
shep
@Anne Laurie: Perhaps you didn’t read the twin study link above:
In other words, there is a serious distinction between those who exhibit anti-social (sociopathic) behavior and those “with callous and unemotional (psychopathic) traits” (all the way to their genes). One is about a set of behaviors and one is about personality. It would appear that both Charles Manson and Dick Cheney are psychopaths, though only Manson meets the strict definition of anti-social behavior.
SectarianSofa
@shep:
It would seem to be of some relevance that you are critiquing a blog post, and doing so by citing definitions and authorities which have little to do with the kind of speech that is in trade. But at this point we’ve gone so far off on the tangent that there’s really no hope of getting back to a point. Also, though I am amusing myself, I’m afraid I may be my only constituency for humor at this point.
Mojotron
Hannity totally schooled Colmes! Woooo
Enhanced Voting Techniques
Hum’s schooling of William
Pre-canned talking points lol
Come on, he was talking past Williams, not to him. Get it right conservatives
gravie
Sociopaths, psychopaths, whatever — I live just outside the DC district line in the heart of self-entitled jerkwater land, and you should try sharing a middle-school social event, a supermarket parking lot or the Beltway with people like Charles Lane and his revolting little Poindexter. Gack.
Maude
@shep:
There is a distinct difference. They stopped calling people psychopaths when too many shrinks couldn’t discern them and it looked bad when their former patients went on killing sprees.
The term sociopath covers a lot of area and doesn’t sound so bad.
Psychopaths aren’t human, they just look human.
Sociopaths are human on a primitive basis.
1badbaba3
@Dr. Loveless: Gee, I wonder if the nuts the Klan fapper threw were acorns. I said acorns! Aw,c’mon!
How’d I get booked in this terlet?
Baldand50
@Keith G:
too much time ’cause they’re sitting in their mom’s basement, watching Faux News and waiting for the deposit into their welfare debit card account.
shep
@Maude: Thanks, Maude. You nailed it. “Psychopath” sounds too shrill, even for shrinks who should know better. They are the heartless monsters. Sociopaths can be redeemable.
Dar Kur
@Djur: Ha!. Now THAT impresses me, Kudos to you, sir. Sorry shep…you just got schooled!!
Tresy
@Abstruse: Britt Hume’s son killed himself some years back. I believe it had to do with being gay.