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You are here: Home / Food & Recipes / Beer Blogging / Open Thread: Just in Time for the Convention — White House Honey Ale Recipe

Open Thread: Just in Time for the Convention — White House Honey Ale Recipe

by Anne Laurie|  September 2, 20127:37 pm| 122 Comments

This post is in: Beer Blogging, Open Threads, Readership Capture

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The Boston Globe seems to have scooped the story: “… Aficionados will note that it is a fairly standard concoction of light malt extract, amber crystal malt, honey, gypsum, yeast, and corn sugar.”

Via NYMag, which added: “And, just in case any enterprising opposition researchers are on the hunt for government waste: all the equipment and ingredients are paid for by the Obamas. So, file White House craft beer under ‘things we wouldn’t have under President Romney'”

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Now that we’ve got the refreshments sorted, what’s on the agenda for the midpoint of the holiday weekend?

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  1. 1.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    I plan to find more ways to reference Hitler in my comments here.

  2. 2.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    You know who else had their own private microbrewery?

  3. 3.

    Anya

    September 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    I hate that video. It simplifies the bullying of the President by racists and their enablers in the media.

  4. 4.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    I am trying to make myself go work in the garden. It was 102 degrees here today. It’s just too hot, even at this time of day. I detest summer. It can’t be over soon enough.

  5. 5.

    Maude

    September 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    This White House is interesting.
    Most of them are boring.

    @Corner Stone:
    You know who else was boring?

  6. 6.

    JPL

    September 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    @Corner Stone: Well he was German after all but since the guy in the White House is a Kansan, Hawaiian, Kenyan it probably is safe to drink..

  7. 7.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    @Violet: Halloween, if we’re lucky this year.

  8. 8.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    @Maude: Chairman Mao?

  9. 9.

    Cassidy

    September 2, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    Cami Cakes. Yum.

  10. 10.

    debit

    September 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    I don’t even like beer and that looks awesome.

    I have built up my winter commuter bike and test ridden the hell out of it, and pronounce it awesome. Three speed internal hub with drum brake in the back, roller brake in the front, in wheels that I built myself. It’s funny; the frame itself is old and beat up, not worth even a tenth of the cost of the components I’ve slapped on it. But it rides like a dream.

    I spent my morning baking treats for the mechanics at the co-op who helped me get everything together, delivered them on the bike itself, then came home and napped. Think I’m going to ride it back up to the grocery store and get some fixings for breakfast tomorrow, then kick back and lovingly gaze at it some more.

  11. 11.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @JPL: You forgot Indonesian. Does that change the equation?

  12. 12.

    Josie

    September 2, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    @Corner Stone: No, if I remember correctly, it is even too hot on Halloween for the kids to be comfortable in the costumes I made for them so lovingly. At least that was true in South Texas. We don’t usually get really cool weather until November and not much even then. Note to self: move further north as soon as possible.

  13. 13.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    So, file White House craft beer under ‘things we wouldn’t have under President Romney’”

    I wonder how much the fact that Romney doesn’t drink alcohol or caffeine will play into the “regular guy” vote? He’s certainly not the kind of guy you want to have a beer with. Well, okay, maybe you want to, but you can’t. Or he wouldn’t, anyway. It would be awkward.

  14. 14.

    gbear

    September 2, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    I plan to be out of my pajamas and into real clothing by 7:30pm so I can go out for a scooter ride.

    I should never go to Amazon.com to kill time while I’m waiting on the laundry. I spent $34 bucks on new stuff today while I still have an order in the mail from last week.

  15. 15.

    quannlace

    September 2, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    gypsum?
    According to Wikipedia- “Adding hardness to water used for homebrewing”

    Who knew? It’s also a coagulant for tofu.

  16. 16.

    Anya

    September 2, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @Anya: Okay, i guess the video is not about the “beer summit.”

  17. 17.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @Anya: Could you please explain a little further?

  18. 18.

    Peter

    September 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    So I’m trying to figure out if Clint Eastwood deliberately played a senile man to fuck up Mitt Romney’s convention, or if he legitimately is a senile old man.

    I know it’s kind of old news by now, but I still can’t believe they bumped the standard ten-minute “Meet the Candidate” video out of the broadcast network Golden Hour for that. Nate Silver reports that convention ratings were way down; I wonder how much of that was people tuning in, seeing Clint’s performance, and then shutting the set off in embarrassment? What a fucking disaster.

  19. 19.

    Richard

    September 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Mitt’s a regular guy… with $250 million.

  20. 20.

    RubberCrutch

    September 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Uh, wait a minute. There’s *gypsum* in ale? Since when?

  21. 21.

    quannlace

    September 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Note to self: move further north as soon as possible.

    Sounds like a Twilight Zone episode.

  22. 22.

    Richard

    September 2, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    CNN sucks Mitt’s dick…

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/cnn-airs-the-most-ridiculous-statement-ive-ever-seen-on-television/

    Perhaps to avoid charges of bias, the documentary steers clear of these contradictions, but then takes the whitewashing to blindingly absurd levels by introducing the next segment with the aforementioned most ridiculous statement I’ve ever seen on television. “In 1968, France was a dangerous place to be for a 21-year-old American,” Borger says, “but Mitt Romney was right in the middle of it.”

  23. 23.

    JPL

    September 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @Violet: Actually the Mormon church is now saying it’s hot drinks you have to avoid so diet coke is okay but no rum with that diet coke.
    I have no idea why hot caffeine is bad but cold caffeine is okay. It probably has something to do with the fact most folks were not drinking coke since it had not been introduced yet. All I can say is if you heat that soda, something bad will happen.

  24. 24.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @Richard: France was dangerous in 1968? WTF?

  25. 25.

    Comrade Mary

    September 2, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @debit: Ooohhh. Pretty! Congratulations on the great build.

    I have been trying to resuscitate my old Mongoose (my cargo/winter bike) which has been having terrible shifting problems, and finally brought it to the shop where it was kitted out with a new front and rear deraileur AND a new front shifter. But when I came back to pick it up, they had “helpfully” given it a full tune-up for a reduced price, which included adjusting the saddle tilt for no clear reason I could see. When I rode it home, it felt awful, not like my beloved old bike at all. I have to adjust it again before I ride it. It needs a new cassette and chain, too, but I’ll be doing that myself, too.

    (Really, I should have done the derailleurs myself, too, as it’s just screwing stuff in and out and running new cable, but it was almost as cheap to have them do it, and I’ve been swamped lately, so I made a bad choice.)

  26. 26.

    Josie

    September 2, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    @quannlace: Believe me, if you were experiencing the summer I did, you would wish to be in the Twilight Zone. I did children’s camps outdoors every day for 4 weeks in weather that started at a balmy 85 degrees early in the morning and reached over 100 degrees by the time we sent them home. Fun times.

  27. 27.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    @gbear:

    I plan to be out of my pajamas and into real clothing by 7:30pm

    That sounds like one ambitious day. Do you ever got extra crazy and get out of your PJs by 7:00 p.m.?

  28. 28.

    gbear

    September 2, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @Richard: Richard, that link is hilarious. It does sound like intentional snark at the expense of Romney because it’s just too clueless to be real. What morons.

  29. 29.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 2, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @Richard:

    You see? OvenMitt isn’t a cowardly little shit! Nor are any of his military service avoiding spawn, either!

    In a just universe, Borger would be hounded out of the talking head business for spouting such utter crap.

  30. 30.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    @Josie: It is miserable. Anyone in the far south with an outdoor job during summer deserves a medal.

    One year I was working in Chicago in late summer. They were having what was passing for a heatwave. All the TV news had urgent warnings about temperatures reaching 95 during the day and how outdoor workers needed to take caution, drink plenty of water and so forth. I about fell off my hotel bed. 95 degrees? We’re lucky if it’s only 95 degrees in the summer. It routinely doesn’t get below 75 degrees at night, and not below 80 when it gets hot.

    Bunch of wimps.

  31. 31.

    YoohooCthulhu

    September 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    @Violet:

    France was dangerous in 1968? WTF?

    I assume he’s referring to the general anti-american atmosphere of the leftist student protests and DeGaulle kicking American/NATO forces out of France. But the way Mitt’s backers are putting it, you’d think it was a war zone :P

  32. 32.

    Maude

    September 2, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @Violet:
    27 LOL

  33. 33.

    Spaghetti Lee

    September 2, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    @Violet:

    Of course it was. Hippies! Anarchists!

  34. 34.

    gbear

    September 2, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    @Violet: Laundry days are just special that way. I may have to revise to 8:00pm if I don’t get off the computer soon.
    I did spend a couple hours today napping with the cat. She gets ignored too much on weekdays.

  35. 35.

    PurpleGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    I’ve just opened a third tab for Balloon Juice — now to keep track of three threads in turn. Fun-n-games.

  36. 36.

    debit

    September 2, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    @Comrade Mary: Thank you!

    My first commuter was an ancient Mongoose and I loved that beast. It rode like a pick up truck, but it was rock solid and totally bomb proof. I stupidly assumed that since my porch door locked it would be safe out there, then woke up one morning to find it gone. (I also assumed the multitude of stickers with a predominance of Powderpuff Girls would be an adequate theft deterrent. Sadly wrong.)

    Nice that they worked in a tune up, but how weird they screwed with the seat. And frankly, I would have had them install the derailleurs. I can NEVER get the adjustments right.

  37. 37.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 8:12 pm

    @Violet:

    Hey, easy on the guy there. I have been puttering around all day in running shorts and a T-shirt and am currently fighting a losing battle to take a shower, put on big-boy clothes and go out to get Vietnamese food for dinner. And I really want Vietnamese food. Sometimes you just don’t got the mo’ (motivation/momentum).

  38. 38.

    The Other Bob

    September 2, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @debit:

    I have built up my winter commuter bike and test ridden the hell out of it, and pronounce it awesome. Three speed…

    Looks good debit. I dig it, especially because you laced your own. The old frame will keep your nice parts from getting ripped off, but is still likely better than some cheap cro-mo tig welded bikes you’d get today.

  39. 39.

    Josie

    September 2, 2012 at 8:13 pm

    @Violet: So true. My middle son went to school in a suburb north of Chicago and he was amused at their reaction to warm weather. He did, however, mention that his ears never got warm in the winter there.

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @debit: Good to see you?

  41. 41.

    PurpleGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @Violet: There were, I believe, lots of student protests.

  42. 42.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @Steeplejack: I was just joshing. It’s not like I’m one to talk. I’ve been a completely slacker this weekend. I’ve got stuff I absolutely have to get to, but somehow I can’t do anything.

  43. 43.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Steeplejack: I’m having asian cold noodle salad tonight. And it. will. rock.

  44. 44.

    Violet

    September 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Steeplejack: Can you make the Vietnamese food come to you?

  45. 45.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @Violet:

    I know, I know. Joshing back. But this has been an incredibly low-energy, not-getting-anything-done week for me, and the holiday weekend has been a continuation.

  46. 46.

    wrb

    September 2, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @YoohooCthulhu:

    you’d think it was a war zone :P

    It sorta was in Paris

    http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=paris+1968&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=image_result_group

    http://www.martinfrost.ws/htmlfiles/paris_1968.html

  47. 47.

    Anya

    September 2, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @Corner Stone: The still in the video is of the racist Cambridge cop who arrested Prof. Louis Gates Jr. in his own home.

  48. 48.

    quannlace

    September 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    you’d think it was a war zone :P

    Or that he was in the front lines in “Les Miserables’

  49. 49.

    debit

    September 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @The Other Bob: Thanks! I enjoy being able to build my own wheels, but honestly love the truing part. There’s something about it I find utterly relaxing and soothing. I may have to invest in some extra hubs and rims for when I get cranky. The frame has been with me for a while, and fits me like a glove. And I thought about repainting it, but probably won’t. It’s earned every chip and scrape.

    @Corner Stone: You’re not sure?

    I’ve been here, just quiet. I’ve been busy, man. I have three more bikes I’m working on.

    ETA: Cold asian noodles? What dressing are you going to use?

  50. 50.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @Violet:

    Just moved to my new apartment a month ago and haven’t really gotten the lay of the land with the new set of nearby restaurants. And the one I’m jonesin’ for, Huong Viet, is less than half a mile away, so it doesn’t seem like it should be an insurmountable effort to get to it. Plus I need to go out anyway to pick up a few odds and ends at the grocery (also very near).

    I had planned to check Huong Viet’s takeout policy and get a menu the next time I went there, but right now, even if they do deliver, I couldn’t order something specific to save my life. “Could you do me that noodle and beef thing with lemongrass and ginger? Oh, you’ve got six of those?” Plus there’s a little bit of a language barrier. Much easier when I’ll be able to yell, “Seventy-five! I want number 75!”

  51. 51.

    Jay

    September 2, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    Who’s going to be the first major wingnut to call the above video an anti – Mormon and anti – Romney dogwhistle?

    A couple of idiots over at the Washington Free Bacon have already marched out that criticism in response to POTUS being shown with beer in many photos and videos taken before this video’s release.

  52. 52.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @wrb:

    Yes, and I experienced the same sort of war zone in Seoul in 1987.

    My parents saw all the stuff on the TV, and thought I was actually in some sort of danger.

    Fact of the matter was, a block away from all the excitement, it was business as usual.

    Both the protesters and the police would line up, wait for the news crews to show up, and then the riot would commence.

  53. 53.

    debit

    September 2, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @Anya: No, it’s not. It’s a Medal of Honor recipient.

  54. 54.

    Yutsano

    September 2, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @Anya: The one at the start? That’s Sgt Dakota Meyer the Medal of Honor recipient. It’s even subtitled in the video.

    @debit: I doth oweth thee one frosty fizzy non-Mormon approved beverage!! :)

  55. 55.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    @Richard:

    “In 1968, France was a dangerous place to be for a 21-year-old American,” Borger says, “but Mitt Romney was right in the middle of it.”

    Bravely bold Sir Mittens
    Rode forth from Paris, France….

  56. 56.

    John M. Burt

    September 2, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    You know who else had his own microbrewery?

    What? Hitler was an abstainer? Oh.

    How much is the President’s fancy-schmantsy microbrewery costing the taxpayers?

    Not a dime? And I could have learned that if I’d listened to the video? Oh.

    [Of course, a real teabag-dangler is unlikely to accept mere facts as a rebuttal, but one may hope….]

  57. 57.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @Anya: Hmmm…ok.

  58. 58.

    JPL

    September 2, 2012 at 8:34 pm

    @Corner Stone: If Prof. Gates had watched Law and Order he would have known not to step outside so it was his fault.

    also, too.. I don’t think he had on horizontal stripes and no pants..

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 8:35 pm

    @debit: I like to give people some leeway.

    A light mix of dark soy and sambal oelek with a hint of fish sauce. The noodles have minced ginger tossed in with them.
    I am a simple man. A simple, simple man.

  60. 60.

    Tom Q

    September 2, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Borger lost me permanently a month or two back, when she said the lesson of the health care debate was that we shouldn’t do anything major in this country unless both parties sign off on it. Yeah, Glorya: this current batch of GOPers should have veto power over all legislation.

    I was so mad about this that, an hour later, I walked past Jeffrey Toobin on the street — who had been on CNN that afternoon but on an unrelated story — and I just started ranting at him about how CNN was promoting Republican propaganda. I’m sure he thought I was a neighborhood loon.

  61. 61.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @Steeplejack: I loved your comment one time that you were “currently in negotiations with myself” in an effort to get yourself to do something or other. So charming.

  62. 62.

    debit

    September 2, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @Corner Stone: My response is garbled by my Homer drool. I would probably add some shredded carrots for a little crunch, and maybe some green onions kissed with some sesame oil, but then, I’m a complicated woman.

  63. 63.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Many many many years ago, when Borger was a regular panelist on PBS’ “Washington Week in Review” every Friday night, I actually quite liked her.

    Has she changed? Have I changed? Because she is just dreadful now and has been for a while.

  64. 64.

    Badmoodman

    September 2, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    “So, file White House craft beer under ‘things we wouldn’t have under President Romney’”

    A Romney presidency would yield exotic Jell-o recipes, ya know, like with cottage cheese inside.

  65. 65.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    @gbear:

    I did spend a couple hours today napping with the cat.

    So then, the day wasn’t totally unproductive.

  66. 66.

    JPL

    September 2, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: She is trying to get a gig that pays more money by selling her soul. Actually selling one’s soul appears to be the rage today.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    #75? That would be the:

    75. BÚN BÒ NƯỚNG SẢ – Rice Vermicelli with Grilled Lemongrass Beef for $8.50

    http://www.huong-viet.com/menu.html

    Of course, I have no idea whether I found the right restaurant, but it had the right name. :-)

  68. 68.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 2, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    Hey Steep, how’s the new kitteh?

  69. 69.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @debit: Oh no. It’s in there.
    Shredded carrot sticks, some thinly sliced white onion (didn’t want red this time), bean sprouts, and topped with a schmattering of green onion. All in with Thai rice noodles boiled for about 3 minutes then pulled fresh into the bowl, toss in the “dressing”, stir a bit with chop sticks, then let sit so the heat of the noodles takes the cold bite out of the veggies. Spoon a little noodle broth in the bowl, if needed.
    It’s “cold” in that the veggies aren’t sweated or sauteed.

    ETA, damn. Forgot to mention some very thinly sliced fresh peppers out of my garden.

    I’m simple in ways that are very complicated.

  70. 70.

    Tom Q

    September 2, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Agreed; I used to enjoy her alot in the days whe I watched Washington Week.

    She’s become more insufferable with each step she’s taken up the food chain.

  71. 71.

    Dream On

    September 2, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    “In 1968, France was a dangerous place to be for a 21-year-old American,” Borger says, “but Mitt Romney was right in the middle of it.”

    1968 was definitely a lethal year to be American in Paris. People would flick their Gitanes on your clothing, clobber you with a baguet, subject you to French pop music and the lack of proper rock music, block your entrance to the Louvre – tough times.

    Sometimes I wonder how Romney made it out alive. A lot of men lost their lives to rescue him, that’s for sure.

    Semper Fi? – nope.

  72. 72.

    Maude

    September 2, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    @Steeplejack:
    I didn’t do anything all day. It’s icky humid.
    It’s good not to do anything.
    I’m going look at the E-PL-2. It just might do the job.

  73. 73.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Dream On:

    block your entrance to the Louvre

    Those frog bastards.

  74. 74.

    jimmiraybob

    September 2, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    Ahah! The headlines read “ale” but in the video the WH brewmeister was calling it porter. Naturally, at first I assumed that this was a vast anti-colonial conspiracy designed to enslave white beer drinking patriots, but then I checked the WH website:

    Since our first batch of White House Honey Brown Ale, we’ve added the Honey Porter and have gone even further to add a Honey Blonde this past summer.

    Well played Mr. President, well played.

    George Washington had a wee taste for the porter – stout porter – himself. Apparently to chase the whiskey on those late nights at the public house rehashing the revolution with the boys.

  75. 75.

    Maude

    September 2, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    @Badmoodman:
    Yeah but it would be in a mold. Might have shredded carrots in it too.

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    How was France dangerous in 1968? I was there for a bit and it seemed fine.
    Borger has gotten lazy and self satisfied.

  76. 76.

    Roger Moore

    September 2, 2012 at 8:53 pm

    @JPL:

    I have no idea why hot caffeine is bad but cold caffeine is okay.

    Supposedly it’s all hot drinks, not specifically caffeinated ones. The justification is that in his official role as prophet, Brigham Young said something about hot drinks being bad for you, so all good Mormons are supposed to avoid them. There’s no similar story about cold drinks, so they’re fine. IIRC, the official Mormon line on caffeine in general is that people should avoid dependence on any mind-altering substance, including caffeine. That means an occasional Coke is probably OK, but using it as a drug is bad.

  77. 77.

    Dream On

    September 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    French Charlie was close – Mitt could sense it.

  78. 78.

    debit

    September 2, 2012 at 8:54 pm

    @Corner Stone: Okay, that’s it. I’m coming over.

    @Dream On: French Charlie don’t surf!

    /Apocalypse Now

    ETA: Now that Corner Stone has made me hungry (and I have no fresh ginger) I am off to the store. TTFN.

  79. 79.

    Brachiator

    September 2, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    @Violet:

    I wonder how much the fact that Romney doesn’t drink alcohol or caffeine will play into the “regular guy” vote? He’s certainly not the kind of guy you want to have a beer with

    Romney is the guy you would want to own a brewery with, if you had sufficient capital.

    On the other hand, Ryan is there to provide the regular guy cover. So far, the results have been decidedly mixed.

  80. 80.

    Roger Moore

    September 2, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @Badmoodman:

    A Romney presidency would yield exotic Jell-o recipes, ya know, like with cottage cheese inside.

    And probably cookie recipes that are passed off as being special family secrets but are taken from the Betty Crocker cookbook, The Joy of Cooking, or some other bog standard cookbook that’s found in the majority of American households.

  81. 81.

    Bill Arnold

    September 2, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    @Richard:
    Well, to be fair, driving was dangerous.

  82. 82.

    Yutsano

    September 2, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    @Bill Arnold: Too soon?

  83. 83.

    Silver

    September 2, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    @RubberCrutch: Small amounts, mostly for water chemistry. Homebrewers can get kind of crazy about water…

  84. 84.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 2, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    The justification is that in his official role as prophet, Brigham Young said something about hot drinks being bad for you, so all good Mormons are supposed to avoid them.

    So, if the prophet told one to go jump off the roof of the garage onto the driveway, one should do that?

    This is how really stupid, mindless crap gets propagated.

    It’s a huge “we don’t want any critical thinking skills anywhere near us, thank you very much” flag.

  85. 85.

    Dream On

    September 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    “[first lines]

    Willard Romney: [voiceover] Paris… fuck; I’m still only in Paris… Every time I think I’m gonna wake up back in the Bon Marche. When I was home after my first tour, it was worse. I’d wake up and there’d be nothing. I hardly said a word to my wife Ann, until I said yes to buying another house. When I was here, I wanted to be there; when I was there, all I could think of was getting back into the Bon Marche. I’m here a week now… waiting for a mission… getting softer; every minute I stay in this room, I get weaker, and every minute that French hairdresser squats in the bush, he gets stronger. Each time I look around, the walls move in a little tighter.

  86. 86.

    Neldob

    September 2, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    Does the White House really have an apiary?

  87. 87.

    gelfling545

    September 2, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @Richard: What. The. Hell?
    I was in France around that time myself. Except for the danger of too much really good wine I didn’t seem to notice any particular danger. I was about 18, not 21 so maybe that was why – makes as much sense as anything else – of course, I wasn’t trying to change anybody’s religion, either.

  88. 88.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Somewhat like our current political system, it’s sometimes hard to get “both parties [to] sign off on it,” as Tom Q ranted above.

    Lately there have been problems between “Morning Steep” and “Evening Steep.” Like right now Evening Steep, although he finally sucked it up and took a shower and got (half-)dressed, is pleasantly exhausted from the effort and is thinking that he doesn’t really need to go out and get those odds and ends at the grocery; he can just let the evening wind down gently.

    This will not come as good news to Morning Steep, who will get up tomorrow morning and be supremely pissed because there is no cream to go in his coffee. And the message from Evening Steep that “you can just run over to the store and get it, what’s the big deal?” will not be taken well.

    Of course, part of the problem is that Morning Steep never got off his ass to go to the store all day today, so it’s really a “both sides do it” situation. Again, much like our current political system. Although neither one of the Steeps has been caught talking to an empty chair so far. Usually there’s a cat in it.

  89. 89.

    Hal

    September 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Darrel Issa will be queuing up the investigation committee any day now. Beer gate will make Watergate look like child’s play.

  90. 90.

    Comrade Mary

    September 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    SF people and aliens: the 2012 Hugo Awards ceremony is live streaming RIGHT NOW. Writer/blogger/other cranky guy John Scalzi is hosting (and nominated), so it should be fun to watch.

  91. 91.

    Nellcote

    September 2, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    @Neldob:

    Does the White House really have an apiary?

    Will homebrewers be able to recreate the President’s recipe?

    Politics aside, Lutz admitted that recreating any historic recipe is a tough proposition, but it will be especially difficult to recreate President Obama’s beer. The still-unidentified chefs who are microbrewing in the bowels of the White House use honey from the first-ever bee hive to sit on the grounds, installed at First Lady Michelle Obama’s request alongside her Kitchen Garden on the South Lawn. So Lutz is looking for some locally produced honey that might replicate the stuff made by the Presidential bees.

    That itself will be an adventure: The highly active hive produces honey that changes in taste during the course of the months when the bees are busy, based on what’s blooming at the White House and the nearby National Mall, according to Beekeeper in Chief Charlie Brandts. The bees travel as far as three miles, and are fans of the cherry blossoms that decorate the famous trees on the Mall in early spring. They also feast on the riot of magnolia blooms on the White House grounds, which grow on trees dating back to President Andrew Jackson’s administration.

    Roses fill the White House gardens for many months every year, as do many other flowers. Salvia, which is planted around the White House grounds, can be tasted in some of the honey pulls, according to Brandts and Executive Chef Cris Comerford. Clover, black locust, and basswood have also been noted by Brandts. Even the color of the honey changes from the first harvest to the final one each year, varying from a pale amber to a deep gold.

  92. 92.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Ha! That’s the one.

    . . . Okay, you shamed me into calling them, and I confirmed that they don’t deliver. I think many of the places at Eden Center do not, as the whole complex is always extremely busy (so they don’t have to).

    But now I’m jonesin’ so bad for that No. 75 that I may have to race up there to get it before they close at 10:00. Damn you, WaterGirl!

  93. 93.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    @debit: I don’t think that Mongoose is going to get it done. :-)
    But you’re welcome anytime.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 9:21 pm

    @Steeplejack: This is like an even more F’d up version of “Raising Cain” with John Lithgow.

  95. 95.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I know. Getting the subpersonalities to pull together is a bitch sometimes.

    I never should have read Jaynes’s The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind. Trippy.

    Okay, off to Huong Viet, damn it. Although I know I’ll thank myself later.

  96. 96.

    Comrade Mary

    September 2, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @Corner Stone: NEVER underestimate the power of a Mongoose. But as poor debit no longer has hers, which you would have known if you read her response, you heartless cad, no, you won’t see her tonight.

  97. 97.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 9:27 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Will report in a bit. Currently in a Vietnamese food crisis. “I am just going outside and may be some time.”

  98. 98.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    @Steeplejack: I mean, I talk to myself all the time. I have a running dialogue going pretty much all day while I’m awake. Asleep is an .entirely. different matter. That’s when the organ music starts.
    But I have yet to castigate myself about buying/not buying milk or foodstuffs.

  99. 99.

    Bill Arnold

    September 2, 2012 at 9:30 pm

    @Nellcote:
    That is very cool. Here’s the whitehouse beekeeping video
    I wonder how many other hives are within bee foraging range of the mall. There appear to be urban beekeepers keeping hives (other than the First Hive) in DC.

  100. 100.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 9:32 pm

    @Comrade Mary: “NOOOOOOOO!!”
    /Vader anguish

  101. 101.

    Anya

    September 2, 2012 at 9:44 pm

    @debit: & @Yutsano: Thanks for the correction. That episode ticks me off so much, I guess I am over sensitive about it.

    @Coner Stone: };>

  102. 102.

    Neldob

    September 2, 2012 at 9:56 pm

    Oh thank you Nellcote and Bill Arnold! Lovely bees, yummy honey.

  103. 103.

    Neldob

    September 2, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    And fine beer. Heavenly.

  104. 104.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    @Steeplejack: Evening Steep may currently hate me, but post-#75-for-dinner Steep may soon thank me, or at least forgive me. And if we’re lucky, and evening Steep stops at the store for cream on the way home, surely morning Steep will think of me with a smile on his face as he has his morning coffee, with cream.

    Hope dinner is great!

  105. 105.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 10:12 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    We all have different issues, I guess. Or different senses of humor.

  106. 106.

    JoeShabadoo

    September 2, 2012 at 10:24 pm

    Pour More Beers! Pour More Beers! Pour More Beers!

  107. 107.

    Roger Moore

    September 2, 2012 at 10:30 pm

    @Tom Q:

    Borger lost me permanently a month or two back, when she said the lesson of the health care debate was that we shouldn’t do anything major in this country unless both parties sign off on it. Yeah, Glorya: this current batch of GOPers should have veto power over all legislation.

    That wouldn’t be entirely bad if it were applied consistently. At least it would stop the Republicans from gutting Medicare and Social Security, imposing ridiculous voter ID laws, taking away the right to contraception and abortion, etc. I just have no confidence that the rule would be applied the same way when the law in question was something the Republicans wanted to pass and the Democrats wanted to block.

  108. 108.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    @JoeShabadoo: Pour More Beers! Pour More Beers! Pour More Beers!

    You have my dad’s sense of humor, so I may have appreciated that more than most. He’s been gone since 1995, so thanks for making me think of him with a smile.

  109. 109.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    New kitty is doing well. I’ve had her three weeks now. Turns out the name she came with, “Sketcher,” was just a nickname she picked up in her field hockey days at Miss Briar’s School. Her full name is Stella Sketchington, or so she claims, so Stella it is.

    She has adapted to the new apartment (new to me, too) and gets more comfortable each day. She has gone from spending a lot of time under the bedcovers and being jittery about everything to making the whole place hers and moving about freely. Right now she is dozing under the coffee table close to my desk. It offers a good “lurk” factor, and she can see everything going on in case she needs to take action.

    We did have a little relapse yesterday. We had some rain with some thunder, and Stella went into “skulk” mode and started trying to find a place to hide. I helped her get under the sheets on the bed. Then I remembered that in her last home a tree crashed into the house in a big storm at the end of June. That’s the proximate reason that I ended up with her in the first place. So she’s still got some issues with that.

    I’ll try to upload a picture or two to Flickr soon. I have an account there, I think, but I haven’t used it in so long that I’ve forgotten everything about it, probably including the password. Guess I could start a new one.

  110. 110.

    Steeplejack

    September 2, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Dinner was good! Huong Viet had a bit of a brusque “soup Nazi” vibe, because they were getting ready to close, but the No. 75 was excellent.

    I did stop at a quickie mart on the way home to see about cream. No luck, but it turns out Morning Steep has enough left in the refrigerator to get him through tomorrow morning, so everything worked out okay. And biscuits! There are some Pillsbury biscuits he can make.

  111. 111.

    Roger Moore

    September 2, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    @JoeShabadoo:

    Pour More Beers! Pour More Beers! Pour More Beers!

    Now there’s a political platform I can get behind. I doubt Mitt will support it, though.

  112. 112.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    @Steeplejack: Yay on making it there in time!

    It was kinda fun finding the link for you since you are always finding links for everybody else.

    I once got to a restaurant 7 minutes before they were closing. We stood there waiting to be seated, and they completely ignored us until 1 minute after 10, then came over, pointed to the clock, and told us they were closed. Bastards!

    I like imgur.com for images like this because you don’t have to gave a login or anything, you can just post an image on the fly.

    Say hey to morning Steep for me if you see him.

  113. 113.

    Corner Stone

    September 2, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    @Steeplejack: What’s the issue? I like organ music.

  114. 114.

    SqueakyRat

    September 2, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Gypsum?

  115. 115.

    JoeShabadoo

    September 2, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    @WaterGirl: I lost my dad this summer and was just thinking about him today so I’m glad I brought a smile to your face.

  116. 116.

    WaterGirl

    September 2, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    @JoeShabadoo: That’s such a hard thing, I am so sorry. It’s such a strange thing to lose a parent, it can take a long time before life stops feeling so strange without them.

    If you got your sense of humor from your dad, maybe the two of them are yucking it up somewhere, smiling at Four More Beers!

  117. 117.

    Wag

    September 2, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    @RubberCrutch</a

    Yes, Gypsum in beer, The idea is to re-create the water from Burton-Upon-Trent, a famous brewing city in the UK. Hard water helps to coagulate the proteins in the boinling wort, and are available at a home brew store as Burton brewing salts. Bass Ale is the classic Burton Ale.

    @jimmiraybob:

    Ales refer to the type of yest used to brew the beer. Lager yeast is bottom fermenting, meaning that the yeast sits on the bottom of the primary fermenter, ferments slowly and produces a very clean fermentation.

    Ale yeasts, which are used to produce ales, porters, stouts and the classic Belgian ales, by contrast, are top fermenting yeasts, which means that the yeast floats to the top of the wort during the primary fermentation. top fermenting yeast ferment more quickly than lager yeasts, and are a little “sloppy” in their fermentation, producing a variety of compounds in addition to alcohol, giving ales their distinct flavors profiles. Think the clove or banana flavors in Belgian ales, for example.

  118. 118.

    JustAnotherBob

    September 3, 2012 at 12:39 am

    @Violet:

    “France was dangerous in 1968? WTF?”

    Well, I was there in 1967 and the waiters in Paris were rude.

    But being an older gentleman of 23 I was able to deal with them….

  119. 119.

    BC

    September 3, 2012 at 12:44 am

    @JPL: Reason Coke is okay for Mormons – they have a substantial stake in Minute Maid and Coca Cola is part of Minute Maid. If someone gave the church a huge amount of Budweiser stock, then they would all be Bud Lite drinkers.

  120. 120.

    JustRuss

    September 3, 2012 at 1:25 am

    @Comrade Mary: Don’t feel bad, I have an old Schwinn ten speed I’ve been wanting to fix up, and dialing in the shifting has been putting me off. The last two bikes I built were single-speeds, just makes things so much easier…til you have to climb a big hill.

  121. 121.

    JGabriel

    September 3, 2012 at 3:09 am

    __
    __
    NYMag:

    And, just in case any enterprising opposition researchers are on the hunt for government waste: all the equipment and ingredients are paid for by the Obamas.

    __
    Honey Ale don’t care. Honey Ale don’t give a shit.

    .

  122. 122.

    Ruckus

    September 3, 2012 at 2:41 pm

    @gelfling545:
    …of course, I wasn’t trying to change anybody’s religion, either.

    I used to case those assholes out of my yard. And I was hostile about it. But I lived in LA and I’m pretty sure they could understand every word, almost all of them with 4 letters. Someone with a proper French vocabulary may have been hard for them to understand.
    Although fuck off sounds pretty much the same no matter the accent.

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