Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Can we lighten up on the doomsday scenarios?

He really is that stupid.

We’ll be taking my thoughts and prayers to the ballot box.

Let the trolls come, and then ignore them. that’s the worst thing you can do to a troll.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

Everything is totally normal and fine!!!

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

If marriage is the equivalent of selling yourself into slavery, women with self respect should reject the offer.

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

Usually wrong but never in doubt

Michigan is a great lesson for Dems everywhere: when you have power…use it!

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

Fight them, without becoming them!

I’m sure you banged some questionable people yourself. We’re allowed to grow past that.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Balloon Juice, where there is always someone who will say you’re doing it wrong.

I was confident that someone would point it out and thought why not me.

The revolution will be supervised.

“Can i answer the question? No you can not!”

In my day, never was longer.

Let us savor the impending downfall of lawless scoundrels who richly deserve the trouble barreling their way.

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Convention Open Thread

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ABL and Heather are at the arena (we only have two sets of creds) so I am going off the grid to have one of my patented solo adventures.

UPDATE by SG: President William Jefferson Clinton is up.  And yes, give some more money at the act blue link.

I want a man to be President who had the good sense to marry Michelle Obama! Awesome line!

Update. DougJ here — give some money to the Kenyan usurper.

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  4. 4.

    peej

    I hope you got ABL or Heather’s cell phone numbers so you have someone to call to bail you out or pick you up at the emergency room after you hurt yourself doing something like walking down the street.

  8. 8.

    BGinCHI

    Missing a sentence at the end. Should have read “and am planning on eating as much BBQ as I can stuff into my face.”

    Come on Cole, do yourself a favor.

    And if you see Fund or Mataconis, I suggest bear hug followed by atomic wedgie. Others may insert their own right wing pundits to subject to elementary school bully tactics.

  11. 11.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    Everything was going so well at the convention until that drunk man somehow wandered onto the stage and had an argument with a cat sitting on a chair. Not wearing pants. Worse, the man wasn’t either.

  14. 14.

    Hawes

    At first I thought After Hours.

    Then I thought Hugh Grant going for an after hour drive.

    But then I settled on Man vs. Food.

  15. 15.

    Dee Loralei

    @BGinCHI: HA! That’s exactly what I thought, Cole was going on a Que Hunt! Especially since last night he mentioned they hadn’t sat down to eat dinner again!

    Enjoy the BBQ John, and if you ever get a hankerin’ for the real thing, come to Memphis!

  16. 16.

    PsiFighter37

    I have a feeling this will end badly or will end legendarily

    With regards to the convention tonight – none of the speakers have come close to last night so far. Cleaver had the most life, and he was on really early. Really just waiting for the 10 PM hour at this point.

  20. 20.

    MikeBoyScout

    Patented? Well, me and my patent troll attorneys are going to challenge your ability to take a “solo adventure”, and I’ll tell you right now Mr. Cole, you had better cease and desist!

  22. 22.

    PsiFighter37

    Kamala Harris – heard a lot of good things about her. Let’s see how good she is in the spotlight.

  23. 23.

    Mary

    Memphis BBQ, really?? It went west from NC and only got worse. BBQ is NC.

    And sorry to say, JC getting in trouble in Charlotte is, well, not really possible. Charlotte is sorta like the train station in the Harry Potter stories, not really there, unless you are going somewhere else.

  24. 24.

    ? Martin

    Whelp, missed all the speakers until now. Bill Butcher needs a bit of practice.

    Yay! Kamala Harris. I voted for her!

    She needs a bit of practice too.

  25. 25.

    trollhattan

    @SBJules:
    Take succor with Oakshotte that the Vatican is working to take those commie chick nuns down.

    But seriously, how does one church produce the polar extremes of the good activist nuns and, well, the dudes in charge?

  26. 26.

    Poopyman

    An 8:55 (EDT) tweet from ABL said they weren’t being let in. No further updates. Wonder what’s up with that? They’re credentialed – unless Heather is trying to get in on Cole’s pass and it has his picture.

  27. 27.

    shoutingattherain

    Going rogue, eh? Send lots of hand pictures w/ Q-sauce on them.

    Also too: bar patrons you meet.

  29. 29.

    KG

    @PsiFighter37: I’m from California, this is the first ime I think I’ve seen her speak. I think I may be looking at the next governor of California (can’t wait to see if 2018 ends up with to Democrats in the general).

  30. 30.

    Poopyman

    @trollhattan:

    But seriously, how does one church produce the polar extremes of the good activist nuns and, well, the dudes in charge?

    … and He who made kittens
    put snakes in the grass

  31. 31.

    PurpleGirl

    @PsiFighter37: If Cole’s evening ends badly, it will still be legendary.

    The speakers so far have been good and are continuing the themes from last night. The overall message are the things that President Obama has done. This is was is needed and we need to remember what we hear so we can tell our friends and relatives.

  36. 36.

    pat

    As a “secular humanist” ( sounds better than atheist) and someone who has absolutely no sympathy for the Roman Catholic Church in general, I found myself raising my fists in the air and yelling “YOU GO SISTER” for Sister Simone Campbell.

    I hope she doesn’t get excommuncated for this.

  38. 38.

    raven

    @auntieeminaz:

    “The doors are open again outside the Democratic National Convention hall, and people are streaming in ahead of former President Bill Clinton’s speech.

    Authorities are citing crowding concerns for their decision to briefly prevent some tightly packed crowds from entering.

    Fire Marshal Rob Kinniburgh says the building was not closed but entrance was delayed because of safety concerns. He tells the AP that 1,000 people will be let in “and then we’ll reassess.”

  42. 42.

    Anya

    UGH, I should look at what I am typing.

    ETA: OMG, that dreamer moved me to tears. Why is this country hostage to xenophobic douchebags?

  43. 43.

    mark

    WHY THE FRACK WERE ABL AND COLE TRYING TO GET IN 40 MINUTES AGO??????? THE CONVENTION STARTS AT 5 P.M. EASTERN TIME!! seriously, what the hell are they thinking they are doing out there????? they missed gabby douglas, emmanual clever, videos, nancy pelosi, the 12 (9) democratic female senators… the list goes on and on.

    The ones they should want to see are the ones on before 8, the speakers for the democrat volunteers! The primetime speakers are tempered for primetime coverage!

    what the hell else are those two idiots doing all day long in charlotte anyhoo??? SERIOUSLY

    p.s. – how did i miss this new thread?

  45. 45.

    mark

    am i wrong to actually LOVE the soundtrack the dems have used these last 2 nights between speakers? i know, just snippets, but still its awesome. someone should compile a cd

  52. 52.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @MikeJ: In my view, neither is Wisconsin beer so I don’t really see that it makes a difference. FWIW I like Memphis BBQ.

  54. 54.

    slag

    Sad to be missing it live right now, but am eagerly getting my hate on for Ann Rmoney at the moment:

    “Women, you need to wake up,” she told the largely female audience at a “Women For Mitt” rally in Findlay, Ohio.

    No, Ann, you need to fuck off.

    Indeed, Romney’s platform is a disaster for women’s health; Romney doesn’t have the spine to endorse the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act; Romney won’t endorse the pending Violence Against Women Act; Romney took the coward’s way out when Limbaugh targeted Sandra Fluke; Romney has offered support for a “Personhood” measure that’s so extreme it would ban some forms of birth control; Romney intends to destroy the Affordable Care Act, which would be a huge setback millions of women; and Romney’s running mate has one of the worst voting records on women’s issues in Congress.

    Yeah pretty much. What a presumptuous, entitled asshole Ann Romney can be.

  56. 56.

    Randy P

    I love this Christina speech in Spanglish. Every time she breaks into Spanish, there must be wingnut heads exploding all over the country. I’ll bet Rush practically has a stroke on his show tomorrow at the very idea of hearing Spanish in prime time.

  57. 57.

    PsiFighter37

    @mark: You are on a roll tonight.

    Harris was pretty standard. Nothing tonight has prompted me to light my hair on fire like Deval did last night. It may also be because I’m much more sober tonight.

  58. 58.

    Some Loser

    Half an hour before the “Big Dog” and Miss Warren shows up.

    Is it me, or does this convention not seem to be as . . . electric?

  61. 61.

    mark

    @PsiFighter37: i think they scheduled the weakest, and clinton, tonight because they knew all about the NFL starting tonight. open strong, close stronger, weak in the middle. not to shabby a plan

  62. 62.

    Some Loser

    It always amuse how Republicans always want to be on the wrong side of history. I don’t know why they desire to be wrong all the time, but I just let them.

  64. 64.

    Linda Featheringill

    I pulled up Sister Simone’s speech on CSPAN and watched it. Very moving. But what really touched me was the enthusiastic response of the crowd there to a rather simple message of we are our brother’s and our sister’s keepers.

  65. 65.

    Randy P

    @Some Loser: Yeah, tonight are not the fire-breathers. Not so far. Lots of ordinary people though, with interesting stories. Including Sandra Fluke and some people whose lives were burned by Bain. And the aforementioned Christina (see #56), who’s a big star on Univision.

  66. 66.

    Some Loser

    @raven:

    Just me, I think. Nothing. I just not feeling the convention tonight as I did yesterday. Not that tonight isn’t good.

  68. 68.

    PsiFighter37

    I do like how they’ve gotten a broad spectrum of ‘regular’ people to come up and speak.

  70. 70.

    lamh35

    I’m gonna admit that I had no plans to watch the Clinton speech. I just don’t anticipate it as much as I did FLOTUS or POTUS. but now that POTUS is gonna be in the house, I guess I have to watch it.

    Reminded me of this classic video from 2008 Damn you Barack Obama (don’t just disregard the title, watch the video, it’s spoken word poem and it is awesome)

  73. 73.

    Paula

    UNION THUGS!! UNION THUGS! RUN, BITCHES.

    Actually, I can’t believe this argument needs to be made. If people have jobs, they have more money to BUY STUFF.

    Fucking capitalism, HOW DOES IT WORK?!

  75. 75.

    Gravenstone

    So I followed a wingnut youtube linky down the rabbit hole. Learned something interesting on the voyage. Apparently to some of the truly deranged, if you flip the official R-Money logo over, it gives you the sign of the beast. Seems the tripartite colors of the R are really upsetting to some of the more unbalanced. Who knew?

  76. 76.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    @Violet: He’s the third Bob. Bob Slidell and Bob Porter went to the Dark Side. Bob King became a Union Jedi.

  78. 78.

    Shawn in ShowMe

    @PsiFighter37:

    There are seven top-flight orators in the Democratic Party. One of them — Jesse Jackson — is effectively retired. Three of them spoke last night. One speaks tonight. Two of them speak tomorrow. The electricity level is at the level one what one would expect.

  88. 88.

    PsiFighter37

    @Shawn in ShowMe: This is true. I do need to save my hair for Biden + Obama tomorrow. Got a stash of lighter fluid ready.

    Will be interested to see how much these ex-employees at Bain-owned companies lay into R-Money.

  89. 89.

    Mary G

    I really like the real people stories. Bain employees charging up the crowd that seemed a little subdued.

    “Making money without a moral compass” is a great phrase.

  90. 90.

    mark

    @Shawn in ShowMe: i’ll say, add emmanual clever to that list. he’s usually soft spoken and a bit aloof in expression, but tonight he was unbelievably amazing!

    god, i miss him as mayor. if only we knew then what we had

  98. 98.

    PsiFighter37

    @Mary G: I haven’t seen her on, and it seems like it would be past the point in the program where they would have her on (given what they’re talking about in the convention now).

    All the bigwigs seem to be getting seated as well.

  101. 101.

    mainmati

    @Mary: I have a much loved sister who now lives in Charlotte (we’re originally from Pittsburgh) and, while it is in a nice part of the state, the city itself is kind of generic and boring (sorry).

  104. 104.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    Boy this game is dull. Watching the convention, at least there is some life in Charlotte.

  105. 105.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    @Mary G: Yeah, regular people telling stories of having their lives destroyed by Romney’s vulture capitalism is going to be mighty tedious compared to Oakeshott in the Widener…

  111. 111.

    CaliCat

    It never ceases to amaze me how Dems take their eye off the prize the instant a shiny poutrage object is dangled in front of them. I couldn’t care less about the word God in this or that. There are far bigger fish to fry at this time in history and thank GOD the president understands this.

  116. 116.

    PsiFighter37

    @mark: Makes sense. I guess van Hollen is going to be the last guy up before Elizabeth Warren comes on. I know people love her, but she doesn’t seem to be the hair-lighting type, either.

    ETA: You’re wrong — Sandra Fluke just came on.

  117. 117.

    JK

    Anyone listening to David Brooks? What a maroon. He is complaining that no one is talking about proposing new legislation during day 1 or 2 of the DNC. If anyone is going to point to new legislation or new programs it will be on day 3 from POTUS, not the union leaders or Catholic Nun. He is just disappointing to see on PBS.

  119. 119.

    GR

    @MaryG: Sullivan is truly insufferable. Real people whose lives were irreparably affected by Bain. HOW BORING! TEDIUM! TALK TO ME ABOUT TAX CODE REFORM AND THE BOWLER-HAT-SIMPSONS!

  120. 120.

    mark

    @Mary G: i am also super bummed about barney. i seriously think dems are afraid of his gay and don’t realize what a lovable asset he is to them. they clearly don’t understand how beloved he is

  132. 132.

    Poopyman

    Chris Van Hollen. As a Marylander I want to apologize for our absolutely droning milquetoast speakers. I’m sure we can do better. No. Really. Somebody?

  134. 134.

    Arm The Homeless

    David Brooks looks so upset. He can’t believe that he has to speak to anyone other than the Davos set. He keeps asking the same damn question. “Where is the policy?”

    It’s a cheerleading event, you twit. It’s the political equivalent of comic-con. None of the talking heads bother to ponder whether there is so little talk about future plans, because no one knows what the hell the GOP might use as a hostage next. FFS!

  136. 136.

    Jay C

    Good speech by Sandra Fluke: good firm advocacy – I like her hanging Rush Limbaugh around Mitt’s neck –

  137. 137.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Arm The Homeless:

    David Brooks looks so upset. He can’t believe that he has to speak to anyone other than the Davos set. He keeps asking the same damn question. “Where is the policy?”

    a) why anyone tortures themselves actually listening to the man (reading him’s bad enough) … you’re on your own.
    and 2) He’s basically practicing his next column. Watch.

  138. 138.

    PsiFighter37

    @Poopyman: I wasn’t paying close attention earlier, but Steny seemed to bring a little bit of life.

    I really wonder why they have her now instead of with Cecilia Richards. Kind of a strange whiplash from an organizational/planning standpoint to go from talking about the economy and the auto industry to go back to women’s health.

  143. 143.

    MCA1

    @Poopyman: I thought he was really good, actually. Laid bare all the bullshit coming out of R/R about macroeconomics, unapologetically gave a big finger to Grover Norquist and his hostage tactics, eviscerated Paul Ryan and damned near used the word “liar” in the middle of the DNC. Maybe he could have played up the incredulity a little more, but it was fairly tasty red meat to my ears, at least.

  146. 146.

    Violet

    Misogynist Central, Sully’s place;

    9.59 pm. Sandra Fluke, Twitter was buzzing, was apparently skipped over in the program – but, no – here she is. And they’ve femmed her up a bit.

    Femmed her up a bit? WTF?

  147. 147.

    Mary G

    Everybody was right about the CSPAN feed – it’s great to not have any talking heads babbling and the streaming is flawless.

    Andrew Sullivan is re-tweeting people who are complaining about tonight’s being “boring,” “uninspiring” and “dreary.”

    Soonergrunt retweeted from LOLGOP:

    REPUBLICANS TERRIFIED THAT SANDRA FLUKE MAY EXPLAIN WHERE THE CLITORIS IS.

  149. 149.

    NotMax

    Common usage, I know, but still grates painfully on the ears every time whenever someone uses ‘podium’ as a synonym of ‘lectern’ as Ms. Fluke just did.

    A podium is the raised platform one stands on; a lectern is the high slant-topped desk one stands behind (or at).

    /crotchety schoolmarm mode

  152. 152.

    Schlemizel

    Gad this drives me crazy! WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE PAY ANY ATTENTION TO SULLY?

    Seriously, he adds nothing of value and only has his gig because people pay attention. if people stopped paying attention his income would dry up and he would be relegated to a well deserved obscurity.

  154. 154.

    Anya

    @Arm The Homeless:

    Thomas Levenson ‏@TomLevenson
    Rahm forces Brooks to agree that Romney Ryan are lying through their teeth on welfare-to-work. Brooks hated the moment. I drink his tears.

  155. 155.

    Arm The Homeless

    @arguingwithsignposts: It’s a fevah!

    plus, it helps me keep on top of the discussion I will inevitably have with my in-laws.

    I love having an up to date picture of that twit when I read Driftglass.

    /justifications

  156. 156.

    jl

    @Arm The Homeless: van Hollen and Fluke scared the audience with a future run by stated GOP policies. Brooks happy yet? Or is he complaining that is uncivil?

    And now the CostCo guy: ‘reap and run’ Who would that be? Uncivil, I say.

  157. 157.

    PsiFighter37

    At this rate, Bill’s going to run over 11, knowing his penchant for running long on the speeches.

  161. 161.

    Schlemizel

    @Anya: that almost makes me wish I was watching them instead of the convention, but then I’d have to listen to Brooks instead of these speakers

  163. 163.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Schlemizel: Bullshit. He has his gig because he says things the right people want to hear. People have been saying that “don’t pay attention” line for years, and you know what? It. Never. Fucking. Works. That. Way.

  165. 165.

    mai naem

    I liked Costco before I even knew it was a blue company. Good company. Good products. They may not be the cheapest but you can count on them picking good quality products which are a good value.

  169. 169.

    Anya

    @Violet: He’s a beard, what does he know about fashion and femininity. Sandra Fluke is a class act. In addition to her beauty, she has brains and a strong character. She rocks! I adore her.

  170. 170.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    @NotMax: I’m afraid you’ve lost that battle. (See 2b)

    Common usage eventually becomes the definition.

    Not correcting you, I’ve got plenty of pet peeves as well, but so many people use podium to mean the thing you stand at, rather than on, that that’s essentially what it’s called now.

  172. 172.

    NotMax

    @PsiFighter37

    It will be timed to have Obama and Clinton shown together (Obama is present as of a half-hour or so ago) before 11.

    Clinton knows optics, and will edit if long standing ovations eat up time.

  178. 178.

    Emma

    @Schlemizel: Thank you. I’ve been needing a primal scream about Sully. He’s a jerk, no matter how many times he lands on the right square by mistake.

  179. 179.

    scav

    @Violet: poor dear. Too bad there isn’t a Punch him in the neck, deep fry him with a mars bar and still have to stamp as unattractive and unfit for human consumption category. Does tend to revert to a low mean that boy.

  180. 180.

    Schlemizel

    @arguingwithsignposts: bullshit – when was the last time anyone here said “here is something good the old douche bag wrote”?

    He has his gig because he fellates the right special interests but they only feed him because he generates clicks/eyeballs. Take those away from him and he loses his value to them. Sending people from here to read him only helps him even if it is only to point & laugh.

  181. 181.

    Joel

    I see this Peter Schiff video where he trolls DNC conventioneers is making rounds in libertarian circles. I only had the stomach for 10 seconds before Schiff’s pompous nasal intonation made me want to punch my computer. Anyone else seen this thing?

  182. 182.

    Violet

    Elizabeth Warren isn’t dynamic so far. I love her, but not sure how she’s coming across to other people.

  183. 183.

    Mary G

    She’s bringing it! They keep knocking her as an ‘ivory tower’ academic, but she demolishes that right off the bat.

  184. 184.

    Suffern Ace

    @NotMax: Tomorrow I will bet no one talks about what he said. If he gives a long speech it will be because he isn’t enthusiastic about the president who’s policies he finds divisive. he gives a short speech it’s because he doesn’t feel any passion for a president he finds divisive.

  188. 188.

    Brachiator

    If the Democrats have any balls, they will play “Atomic Dog” when Bill Clinton walks onstage.

  190. 190.

    PsiFighter37

    @NotMax: I don’t know how long Warren is scheduled to speak, but ideally she should probably finish up in the next 10-15 minutes.

  197. 197.

    Windy City

    Sully is beyond insufferable tonight. All of this truth about the war on the middle class is upsetting his delicate Tory sensibilities. These things should be spoken of in hushed tones in private rooms.

  200. 200.

    Suffern Ace

    @Joel: give that man my money to invest. He called the real estate crash you know. As well as the market melt downs of 74, 75, 78, 81, 82. Oh hell. He calls a market meltdown every year. GOLD!

  201. 201.

    arguingwithsignposts

    @Schlemizel:

    when was the last time anyone here said “here is something good the old douche bag wrote”?

    Do you ever read any of the “Sully has his good days and his mind can be changed” comments? I’m not going to be assed to spend time doing your jerb for you by searching, but Cole or one of the other FPers gave him a positive nod recently. And he’s back on the blogroll and not in the “Blogs We Mock” category.

    I haven’t clicked on a link here to his blog since 2009. But if you think he would wilt away if the BJ commentariat and FPers didn’t give him any linky-love, then by all means, have your little fantasy.

  203. 203.

    Comrade Nimrod Humperdink

    Her nerves are getting the better of her delivery, but the broad reaction to the content is going to be very, very interesting…

  204. 204.

    Jay C

    @PsiFighter37:

    Said on MSNBC that Warren is allotted 12 mins – longer, apparently than anyone but the Big DAwg.

    And she seems to using her time well: “corporations aren;t people!”

    Shout it!

  208. 208.

    mai naem

    @Windy City: Sully is a selfish prick who only gives a crap about himself. He didn’t bitch about Obamacare because he’s HIV+. He wanted the ban lifted on HIV+ immigrants because it affected him. He’s all for gay marriage because it affected him. He’s no different than Mitt. Its all about IGMFU.

  215. 215.

    El Cid

    She’s not a magical speaker, as far as a performer — but she has really good words coming out of her mouth, and they actually have meaning and make points, so I think it’s pretty damned effective.

  221. 221.

    dance around in your bones

    I don’t know what some of you meh-ers are seeing, but I think her speech is very good so far.

    Enthused, focused, passionante, and REAL.

    Can’t wait for the Big Dog.

  222. 222.

    L. Ron Obama

    This is a bit better now that she’s talking about Obama. This sounds like two different speeches, written by two different people, grafted together. Wait, now there’s a third speechwriter. This last one is much better.

  224. 224.

    Ben D.

    President Clinton better rip the fucking bark off of R/R tonight. Maybe its the booze talking but I want to see some metaphorical blood tonight, I’m so sick of the blatant lies coming from Team Douchebag. Make ’em pay, Bubba.

  228. 228.

    Dave

    @Smiling Mortician: I hear you. I for one don’t buy the snappiness from her. She needed to lecture harder and not do the standard angel of the household/mommy shtick women politicians always go for. She should have rocked some faces with stats and specifics about how they’re screwing you.

  229. 229.

    Smiling Mortician

    @El Cid: I agree. I can’t quite figure out what all the discontent is about. Maybe it’s about her vocal quality? And the fact that she’s sort of nervous, I think. But she’s saying some really good stuff. Her riff on what people are – and what corporations are not – was awesome.

  232. 232.

    L. Ron Obama

    I think they should have cut the first half of the Warren speech. The second half flowed much better, the delegates were more engaged, and she was more dynamic.

  235. 235.

    ChrisNYC

    I like her too. I’m not sure she’ll win but the part about the ripoffs is important and is nowhere else in any of our pol discourse. If we could banish this idea that credit card companies and the rest are “partners” when what they are are adversaries who are out to get that marginal dollar via whatever means, things would be much much better.

  241. 241.

    mainmati

    Sandra Fluke gave a really impressive speech. Then, startlingly, for me was fellow Pittsburgher (who knew?) the founder of Costco. Never shopped there; there’s none around here in any event. But, wow, who would have thought there’d be a mainstream CEO going for Pres. Obama.

    First time I’ve ever heard Eliabeth Warren give a speech. She truly sounds like she comes from OK except really different politics. I like her stand up, fresh populism – not demagoguery – but a real debater.

    Is pickup-truck Brown going to actually debate her? Probably not I would guess.

    And now Big Dog….

  246. 246.

    jl

    Oh boy, the new GOP and Beltway BS Golden Boy! This will be interesting. What will he say? I do hope he calms that rash Obama down.

  251. 251.

    rikyrah

    loved Warren. she spoke the truth, and of course, because she’s for the little guy, Sully got all pissy. had a fucking month of thousands of people protesting in Wisconsin and he couldn’t be bothered to cover it

  255. 255.

    WaterGirl

    @mark: Sandra Fluke was on. Didn’t see Barney Frank, though.

    This is a great page for seeing who is scheduled in what order – just make sure to refresh the page fairly often because they are juggling folks around like crazy.

    http://www.c-span.org/DNC/Schedule/

    I imagine we will see Barney Frank tomorrow. Jim Clyburn was scheduled for Tuesday, was then moved to Wednesday, and now has been moved to Thursday.

  256. 256.

    karen marie

    Where do they get these callers to C-Span? I continued letting the livestream run after everything was over, and every single caller, bar none, has been a complete wet blanket. “Obama promised he’d fix everything immediately, he didn’t get it done in the first two years [WTF?] so I’m not voting for him,” “Obama promised he’d bring change and that if he didn’t he wouldn’t run again, he didn’t bring it and he’s running again, I’m so disappointed.” Enough to make one pick up a fork and get stabby.

    P.S. I’m an east coast transplant to the west coast and I’m still not used to being three hours earlier, so I missed all the speakers before Clinton but, wowser, I’m glad I didn’t miss him. He had me at hello.

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