The Obama campaign’s response to yesterday’s directive from Secretary Husted:
Plaintiffs file this Motion to bring to the Court’s attention a Directive issued yesterday by Defendant Husted in disregard of this Court’s Order of August 31, 2012, and to seek full enforcement of that Order.
In its August 31, 2012 decision, this Court ordered “that in-person early voting IS
RESTORED on the three days immediately preceding Election Day for all eligible Ohio voters”, specifically listing Saturday, November 3, 2012, Sunday, November 4, 2012, and Monday, November 5, 2012 as days that are to be restored. The Court further anticipated that Defendant Husted would direct all Ohio elections boards to maintain a “specific, consistent schedule on those three days.”Notwithstanding the Court’s injunction, on September 4, 2012, Defendant Husted issued a directive that provides that no hours will be established until after a decision on the Defendants’ appeal of the Court’s order, because “the constitutionality of the statute setting inperson absentee voting hours is still subject to court review and it would [ ] confuse voters to set hours now that the court may change later.” The directive further “strictly prohibits county boards of elections from determining hours for the Friday, Saturday, Sunday, or Monday before the election.” Having sought no stay, either in this Court or the Court of Appeals, the State appears to believe it can issue one on its own authority.
It goes on from there (pdf)
Remember: this is all about denying Ohio voters three days of in-person early voting the final weekend before the election. This is how far they’ll go to deny voters those three days. Ohio voters HAD the three days for a couple of years, but Republicans took away the last long weekend of early voting before the election in 2011.
Napoleon
Husted is just flat out in contempt of court. Has he even filed a motion seeking a stay with the district or appeals court?
FormerSwingVoter
How can a democracy function when one side literally ignores the law?
Basilisc
They’re panicking.
No compromise.
f space that
Throw him in jail.
pragmatism
Next in the queue for the Wingnut Welfare career: Soon to be ex-Secretary Husted. So brave. So brave.
Spatula
Wow. The repubs are piggish fascists, but I almost admire the dogged shameless laser focus.
Nice to see the Dems battling back in a timely matter, on this issue at least.
feebog
Fucking justice system, how does it work?
Punchy
@FormerSwingVoter: A commenter on TPM below this article mentions that Guv Scott in FL has announced he too is ignoring the federal court’s declaration that FL’s voting laws are unconsty. Anyone have any skinny on this?
Joey Maloney
So, can a lawyer weigh in? How does this play out if Husted remains intransigent? So far the administration is going to the court. Is there a point where they can send in the National Guard to run the polling stations or something?
Spatula
@FormerSwingVoter:
You’re kidding, right?
It is ALWAYS a matter of choosing which laws to ignore and which to enforce…take the matter of not pursuing Bush and Cheney on war crimes and multiple other criminal fronts. Or the Obama decision to let the bankers and wall street crooks off the hook.
It’s NEVER a matter of one side ignoring laws and the other enforcing them. It’s which side ignores and enforces them in a manner of which we approve.
LanceThruster
Why do they hate America?
Oh, that’s right.
They just hate the portion that will not vote for them under any circumstances.
Mah.Thur.Fah.Curse.
Soonergrunt
@Basilisc: Yup. If they thought they’d win, they’d have requested a stay from the court.
They know they won’t, so they’re hoping to run out the clock and make it as logistically difficult to do the early in person voting as possible. Only the counties with resources –rich, Republican counties– will be able to jump through their asses.
Spatula
@Punchy:
“Unconsty.”
I like that. :)
Professor
Is the Attorney General’s action NOT in contempt of the court’s ruling? Can the court jail him for the contempt?
scav
Ho-ly Shit. Do they hire Oily Taitz as Attorney General?
LanceThruster
@Spatula:
On the other hand….oh, nevermind.
Just get bent.
I’m LanceThruster and I approve this message.
scav
They are really counting on this being a political cycle to keep their asses out of jail. That could be risky.
dr. bloor
I doubt this is even close to how far they’ll go.
JGabriel
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Obama Campaign via Kay:
Hmm. Who knew plaitiffs could grant their own stays sua sponte?
.
NCSteve
@FormerSwingVoter:
By judges sending the U.S. Marshal down to haul their asses out of their offices and tossing said asses into jail with the drug kingpins and minor street dealers awaiting trial until they comply?
? Martin
@Joey Maloney:
Sure, and done before as you surely know.
I’m starting to wonder if the GOP doesn’t want that to happen now. Aside from the amazing dichotomy of the GOP painting Obama as simultaneously weaker than Carter and also a brutal dictator, if the GOP can’t find a path to victory in Ohio, they might try to parlay a National Guard action as some kind of ‘Obama is taking over the election and is coming for your guns’ conspiracy.
They’re working the Social Security is buying bullets to put down citizen unrest angle already.
The Other Chuck
It’d be nice to see Husted frog-marched out of his office, but honestly folks, I don’t see that happening. There will be a sternly-worded order with lots of all caps “IT IS HEREBY ORDERED” and so forth, and he’ll comply.
Now what remains to be seen will be all the shit he’s going to pull behind the scenes to understaff the polling places and otherwise sabotage the vote.
Chris
@LanceThruster:
“America” =/= America.
“America” – the idea, the mythical land of fantasy they want us all to go back to that hasn’t existed for a hundred years or more and actually never existed at all in the sense that they imagine it – they love. That’s too weak a word, actually. Worship, idolize, fetishize.
America – the actual living breathing three hundred million people who compose the actual country we live in – not so much.
Gary
@Joey Maloney: As a lawyer in private practice (and formerly an Assistant Attorney General in NY), I can say that this is outrageous conduct — a party should never simply disregard a court’s order. Claiming you can ignore an order because the order has not yet been reviewed by a court of appeals is nonsense. Until a court of appeals reverses (or at least stays) the order — that is the law. The judge has the authority to hold Husted in contempt and either throw him in jail or impose daily fines until compliance.
While refusing to obey a court order is pretty reprehensible, it’s not surprising given the disdain for democracy shown by the New Poll Taxers. Perhaps the only tax a modern Republican loves is a poll tax.
Spatula
@LanceThruster:
Oh Lance, your arguments are as cogent and convincing as ever.
“get bent.” Did you make that up all by yourself?
bushworstpresidentever
FWIW, the Court of Appeals immediately set an expedited briefing schedule on the appeal by Ohio.
Chris
@? Martin:
I’m kind of surprised Ike didn’t provoke a stronger reaction when he sent the 101st Airborne into Arkansas back in the fifties. If I’d been around at the time, I would’ve half expected the local KKK to seize the school and turn it into their Alamo.
(Also while I’m on the subject – how was that legal? Using the actual military as opposed to the National Guard? Don’t get me wrong, I’m glad he did it, but isn’t that exactly what Posse Commitatus was supposed to make illegal?)
Legalize
He’ll comply and scream about how liberal judges are interfering with stuff that local authorities know better about. Then he’ll do other onerous shit that will take some time to sort out. By election day – who knows.
mai naem
Why do these Mah.Thur.Fah.Curse. not end up in jail for contempt of court? They need to spend time in jail with bubba. There needs to some consequences for pulling this crap.
I hate these pigs. I don’t want to deny anybody the right to vote but I wish the Dems could come up with some bogus crap to deny old white rich people the right to vote just so that the shoe is on the other foot.
TR
I live nowhere near Ohio but I will contribute $200 to Husted’s next Democratic opponent, and every one after that. What an evil fuck.
FlipYrWhig
@Chris: For that matter, did the would-be “civil libertarians” of the era fume about how Eisenhower was so eager to use the US Army against US citizens and it was all just a slippery slope to totalitarian fascism?
Raven
@Spatula: Let me step in here, go fuck yourself jerk.
burnspbesq
@bushworstpresidentever:
Worth very little. What needs to happen is that the trial court needs to issue an order to show cause why Husted should not be held in contempt. This is ridiculous.
burnspbesq
@Spatula:
Remind us again about your extensive criminal trial experience, that requires us to accept your view of what cases can and can’t be successfully prosecuted and disregard the views of career professionals.
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
Feel free to continue being a waste of everyone’s time.
Spatula
@Raven:
Oh Ravey…you too are so butch.
And mindlessly stupid as per usual.
Raven
@Chris:
“Woodrow Nilson Mann, the Mayor of Little Rock, asked President Eisenhower to send federal troops to enforce integration and protect the nine students. On September 24, the President ordered the 101st Airborne Division of the United States Army to Little Rock and federalized the entire 10,000 member Arkansas National Guard, taking it out of the hands of Faubus.”
Cassidy
@burnspbesq: What’s funny is that it made sure to comment on how full and fullfilling its life is, but still comes here to stalk. I think it needs to go play with its imaginary family.
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
You really don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about, do you? I don’t think that anyone here wouldn’t listen to the views of a well informed and thoughtful contrarian.
You miss “well informed” and “thoughtful” by a few parsecs, kid.
Spatula
@burnspbesq:
Hey Burnsybot: Is it your view that prosecutors do not make decisions about what cases to pursue purely for political reasons?
hahahahaha…so cute.
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
That “kid” is adorable, son.
Raven
Operation Arkansas
Maude
@burnspbesq:
So what happens now? If the order to show cause is ignored, what can the judge do?
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
hahahahahah….lololololollolololol…hahahahahah…oh my god..hhaahahahahahaha…lololol…gasp, choke…hahaha…(wets pants)…lolololololol…hahahahaha…snort, fart…hahahahahahahaha…
Cassidy
It just keeps making noise. You’d think it had some sim pets to attend or something.
Chris
@FlipYrWhig:
I’m sure the Birchers did, they were already doing that anyway. I’m just surprised there wasn’t a more violent pushback to go with the rhetorical one – organized white supremacist terrorism was a lot more powerful back then, wasn’t it?
@Raven:
Thanks! Am I reading that right that it was legit because the mayor had asked for it?
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
I’m well past three score, kid. I called you “kid” because, relatively speaking, you are and your comments make it clear that you’re unlearned. The good news is that if you keep showing up here spouting bullshit you will get schooled. Whether or not you learn anything is up to you.
scav
@Cassidy: Nah, it takes personal abuse to get him off and he don’t know any in meatspace that will talk to him any more. 50SpatulasOfGray, it’s a weird world.
Raven
@Spatula: Yea motherfucker and I’ll dog your punk ass everytime you show up here.
Smiling Mortician
@Spatula:
This does not surprise me.
Citizen_X
@Spatula: So, we can mark you down as being in favor of denying people their right to vote? Good to know. Because otherwise, you’d have no point at all, other than to distract people with pointless comparisons.
I expect to see you side-by-side with Husted, axe handles in hand, barring the door to the polling station. VOTER SUPPRESSION TODAY, VOTER SUPPRESSION TOMMORROW, VOTER SUPPRESSION FOREVER!
Cassidy
@scav: Maybe it fell into the wrong thread.
scav
@Cassidy: near certainty, practically a universal law.
Ash Can
I’m all for reasoned disagreement and debate, and I enjoy kicking trolls around once in a while if I’m in the mood for it, but there are times when nothing but Cleek’s pie filter will do.
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
Old AND stupid AND faux butch: A sad way to spend your twilight years, son.
Spatula
@scav:
That’s actually slightly humorous. :)
Dennis SGMM
@FlipYrWhig:
Back then, there weren’t as many outlets for thought as there are now. You have to take into account that the Red Scare was still on at the time with the result that civil liberties folks kept their mouths tight shut lest they be mistaken for Commies.
Cassidy
@scav: I wish it would fall into a hole filled with the sweaty musings of a Harry Potter slash fic writer.
Raven
@Spatula: Can you lisp when you type?
Maude
@Smiling Mortician:
I just love your nym.
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
Spent a year in Vietnam, raised an autistic kid and had gum surgery. No faux about it, sugar.
Spatula
@Raven:
Awww…you hurtz my feelingz. You are so big and afraid-making of me that I make trembling motions…
My god, are you people for real?
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
Is this how Civil War II begins?
I now have no doubt that the Obama admin has the stomach for this fight. But do the American People?
We already know which side the MSM will take, of course. I’m sure cable news interns are busily googling pictures of the New Black Panthers as we speak.
Spatula
@Citizen_X:
Wow. This is so fucking typical of BJ commenters.
Please provide a link to where I said anything in support of denying people a right to vote…thanks, I’ll wait.
Also, please read my comment at #6 and I will wait for you apology. Where do you morons get this shit?
jibeaux
Any word on when we can expect a ruling on the Motion to enforce?
goblue72
@Spatula: Because numbnuts, there is a Grand Canyon sized difference between the discretion that prosecutor’s have in deciding which enforcement actions to take in terms of bringing cases to trail, and wilfully ignoring a direct order of the courts.
They aren’t even the same thing. Moron.
Smiling Mortician
@Maude: Why, thank you kindly. I’ve always had an odd fondness for Ferlinghetti.
Raven
@Spatula: Every time.
jibeaux
Kay does such great work, people, don’t ruin it with troll spooge, por favor.
burnspbesq
@Cassidy:
I guess “funny” is one word you could use to describe it. I might choose a different word, like “pathetic.”
Yutsano
@Raven: C’mon good sir, yes Special Timmeh is his own level of douchebag but there’s no need for insults like that.
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
Please. That’s all sissy shit, sister.
scav
@Spatula: Because you’re such a tool cleaning your out-hole aka ass out with your name and flinging it that it’s hard to see anything else that might sneak out of your in-hole. You might as well have no opinions whatsoever for all the valid good they’ll do in reality.
schrodinger's cat
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God: Current MSM past time is to diss Warren, Douthat did that in his blog entry this morning and Sully has a post up which treats her with disdain.
burnspbesq
@Maude:
Issue a bench warrant and send law enforcement to drag his ass into court.
Spatula
@goblue72:
Which, dumbnuts, might be why I specifically said that both sides ignore LAWS, in reference to another commenter’s mention of only the republicans ignoring LAWS. Please link to where I mentioned orders of a court.
Thanks, I will wait.
Dennis SGMM
@Smiling Mortician:
Huzzah!
“If you would be a poet, create works capable of answering the challenge of apocalyptic times, even if this meaning sounds apocalyptic.
You are Whitman, you are Poe, you are Mark Twain, you are Emily Dickinson and Edna St. Vincent Millay, you are Neruda and Mayakovsky and Pasolini, you are an American or a non-American, you can conquer the conquerors with words….
”
—Lawrence Ferlinghetti. From Poetry as Insurgent Art [I am signaling you through the flames].
Raven
@Yutsano: It keeps up with the butch shit that’s what’s coming back.
Vogon Pundit
Gotta give the legal folks credit. They moved quickly (or were ready) with this response.
JGabriel
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Chris:
From Wikipedia:
Spatula
@Yutsano:
Raven frequently makes homophobic remarks. I think perhaps it is a self hating closet case yearning for that which it denies itself, and therefore hates. Poor thing.
LanceThruster
In generic response to our very own short bus guest, I’d just like to say that the wholly and openly partisan (and clearly illegal) Rethuglicur approach to “protecting” the sanctity of the vote is akin to destroying the village to save it.
Please, sir, may I have another.
::faceplant::
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
Only if you haven’t done it. Only if you’ve never even been close to doing it.
Way back in other days, we had a saying; “You got the talking part done. Now let’s get to it.”
You will never get beyond the talking part, little one.
Raven
@Dennis SGMM: Did you know Lawrence was a big baseball fan? I saw him in Urbana in 1970 doing Tyrannus Nix
Chris
@JGabriel:
Ah, thank you! Yes, I’m afraid I completely bought the “popular belief” mentioned in the article. Thanks, it all makes sense now.
scav
@schrodinger’s cat: Matt Bai is doing his best to insist all horses are dead and kicking them before they even appears on stage: In Clinton and Warren, Competing Messages for the Middle Class. Silly man. He’s got competition though in Sununu going all Fashion Designer critic.
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
Talk and alleged accomplishments are a dime a dozen on the Intertrons, Aunt Dennis. For all I know , you’re a retired grandma in Nebraska getting a few chuckles.
Either way, it’s clear you’re simple, Missy.
LanceThruster
@Spatula:
Oh snap, snap! Deary me, our own beloved raven has been schooled. I’m sure he holds you in such high esteem that he most likely will slink away with his tail between his legs, having been bested so.
Raven
@Yutsano: “Raven frequently makes homophobic remarks”
Is that your experience? Ever?
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
Talk and alleged accomplishments are a dime a dozen on the Intertrons, Aunt Dennis. For all I know , you’re a retired grandma in Nebraska getting a few chuckles.
Either way, it’s clear you’re simple, Missy.
burnspbesq
@Spatula:
OK, douchebag, I call. Who committed what crimes? Specify the statutes that were violated, and describe the admissible evidence that can be used to prove every element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt. If you can.
The Moar You Know
@Spatula: ALRIGHT! Tim/KolaNoscopy/ClimeActs is back in the house! Give the critter a warm welcome guys!
Mary G
@NCSteve: Yes, can’t people be locked up indefinitely for contempt of court, or is that just in John Grishom novels?
Brian R.
OT, but Ann Romney’s speech in Findlay, Ohio, deserves some attention. Between the clenched jaw with a defiant “WE DON’T APOLOGIZE FOR OUR SUCCESS!” and some idiotic “women need to wake up!” bullshit, it was an impressively tone-deaf display.
Dennis SGMM
@Raven:
I didn’t know that he was a fan. When I was on the Berkeley axis I met him him in S.F. I wanted to discuss a line from his 1960 novel Her. We did discuss it and we never got around to baseball.
Barry
@NCSteve: “By judges sending the U.S. Marshal down to haul their asses out of their offices and tossing said asses into jail with the drug kingpins and minor street dealers awaiting trial until they comply?”
Sounds good to me. Jail them for contempt of court, and assess court costs and other compliance costs against them personally. I’ll guarantee that they’ll comply promptly.
The Moar You Know
On topic: the refusal of this clown to implement the judge’s order has been reported on for the last two days. The judge has done nothing. Does someone have to request that something be done before he can?
Because if that’s not the case, it looks like the judge is fine with Husted’s action – or lack thereof.
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
@schrodinger’s cat:
You’re just baiting me because you can tell how much I despise Scott Brown, aren’t you? :P
But it doesn’t surprise me, one bit, sadly: Douche-hat and Sully are both political misogynists. And the Lady Professor has the nerve to question Scotty Boy’s awesomeness. That she’s dedicated her academic career to studying the problems facing the middle class must only gall them that much more.
The Boston Herald openly calls her ‘Granny’, BTW. That’s the level of discourse amongst Scott Brown supporters.
After last night’s speech, should Brown keep the seat, IMO Deval Patrick should take it from him in 2018. (Assuming he wants it, of course).
Spatula
@burnspbesq:
oh jesus.
So you’re a bush republican. I always suspected it to be so…
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
VT-23, NAS, Kingsville, Texas
VS41 FRAMP, NAS, Coronado.
SERE, Amphibase, Coronado
BITS, Camp Eldon within Camp Pendelton.
CTF116 (Gamewardens), NSAD, Binh Thuy, then part of the Republic of Vietnam.
Now, at long last, go fuck yourself.
scav
Could also start a campaign about promoting OH as a Voting-Haven for elections that might not go they way one wants them. Hold shareholder meetings there (Murdoch?) and avoid all unexpected messy outcomes — fills up conference centers too. Putin could hold the next Russian election there to prove it’d work on an international scale.
schrodinger's cat
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God: Why was he (Sully) promoted from the blogs we mock list. Plus he has been hating on cats, calling the purring murders or something. I am offended on the behalf of Tunch and all kitteh kind.
Spatula
@The Moar You Know:
Hey stupid. I’ve been posting off and on for weeks. Just not in every thread, as per you.
4tehlulz
YEAH STUPID POOPYHEAD
scav
ahhha, the cute little pout in 101. . .
Citizen_X
@Spatula:
Hooray! You said something about it 100 comments ago!
And then filled the rest of the thread with me-me-me-I’m-so-special. Almost like you were trying to derail discussion or something…
Randy P
Are they still pretending the Obama administration is the one doing the suppression? What is the perception of Joe and Jane Average Voter as to what is going on?
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
So what?
LanceThruster
@Dennis SGMM:
He walks the walk, Timmeh.
Stand down, son, before you embarrass yourself further (provided such a thing is possible).
Spatula
@Citizen_X:
moron.
I posted my comment and then was immediately told to fuck myself or fuck off or get fucked multiple times, and it’s been downhill from there.
Now I ask you…who started the hate here?
Dennis SGMM
How is it that Ohio keeps coming up with these Doozies as SoS? Ken Blackwell, and now this guy.
catclub
@Citizen_X: and succeeded because you fed the troll.
I am still pushing for silent banning of trolls:
Their posts only appear for them to see, (so looks like no ban to them) so they do not get fed by the rest.
Marc
Why are people giving Timmy the pathetic troll the time of day?
He’s just fishing for abuse and (successfully) taking over the thread. He doesn’t give a damn about voting rights or anything else except getting attention. Pie him.
Spatula
@LanceThruster:
Oh…this is a form of the blind military worship that is a subculture of Balloon Juice. I kind of forgot about that.
Thing is…that list of whatever does nothing for me. I don’t care. The U.S. military engages in lots of stupid brutal killing. I don’t generally support it.
LanceThruster
@Spatula:
FTFY
Culture of Truth
There should be 3 days of voting, but a Gold Flex Pass for voters who pay $100 to skip to the head of the line.
LanceThruster
Cease fire! Cease fire!
We’re clearly just wasting rounds here.
kamalokitty
Awesome. I hope the judge issues an OSC re contempt and sanctions immediately. Love people who think they are above the law. Just make up their own. Why not.
Spatula
@Marc:
EXACTLY.
Why do people who claim I have nothing of use to say find it so difficult to simply ignore my comments? And you’ll note all the abuse springs from the REACTION to two very reasonable, non abusive posts of mine.
Interesting.
Randy P
Don’t feed the troll. Please?
geg6
@Spatula:
Okay, I don’t usually fall into the trap of responding to your childish behavior and obvious self-hate, but you are way outta line here.
Where have you ever served to put your life in danger for others? What children have you raised and what disabilities and illnesses have you had to nurse or support them through? What have you ever done with you life that comes even within a mile of what Dennis has done with his?
Your biggest thrill in life is to come here and suck up every bit of negative attention you can manage to yank out of good people who don’t want to hate you but who you relentlessly force to be disgusted by you. I’d feel sorry for you, but that would just make you do or say something that would make me to despise you even more. You must have the worst life. I’d hate to be you.
raven
@Spatula: As opposed to smart humane killing. You are so fucking stupid it is amazing.
Dennis SGMM
@LanceThruster:
LOL! Thanks for waking me up. It ain’t worth a round.
Omnes Omnibus
@The Moar You Know: Practically speaking, it is motion from the Obama admin that will put things in motion. Judges are never fine with their orders being ignored. It is the one thing that will set off any judge at any level.
geg6
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yeah, according to Sully, people just hate Elizabeth Warren. She’s, apparently, too upstanding or something. I didn’t quite get what the criticism was.
LanceThruster
@Spatula:
Thanks for yet another incorrect assumption. There’s plenty of vets who are worthy of disdain. They’re human too. The ones here at BJ seem to be a pretty impressive bunch, across the board. Thoughtful, forthcoming, knowledgeable…with many interesting and/or tragic experiences to share.
You…not so much.
LanceThruster
@Dennis SGMM:
Just makes one feel kinda stupid for getting sucked in shooting at ghosts, no?
LanceThruster
@Randy P:
Umm, [digs toe into ground] the other guys started doing it first.
Spatula
@geg6:
Hey ding dong. I posted two very reasonable comments way up above and immediately the hateful, vile, personal insults flew, just as always. I most certainly did not start that. So just really fuck off with your pious bullshit about how “good” the dominant commenters here are because it is not so.
“Good” people don’t write the kind of shit that gets thrown at me every time I make a point out of step with Obot thought here. Your “good” people have a mean and vicious streak a mile wide.
I don’t agree that serving in support of murderous, undeclared, and illegal wars is automatically laudatory. Especially when I have no way of confirming the alleged service even took place. You disagree. I can accept that.
Lastly, I can list all kinds of great shit I’ve done with my life. You have no way of knowing if any of it is real, so…why bother? Do you believe everything everyone here says about themselves?
kay
@Brian R.:
I’ve been laying off Ann under the general “I don’t include families” rule (except for the horse) plus I don’t consider her a threat.
I think she’s another case of “people DC pundits think will connect with the rubes”.
They’re her fan club. She has nothing to do with me.
burnspbesq
@Spatula:
Is that the best you can do?
You were asked a simple, precise question. You’ve chosen not to answer. I think it’s entirely reasonable to infer that you chose not to answer because you’ve got nothing. Since you have nothing, you’re not worth any further time or attention.
LanceThruster
@Brian R.:
She don’t apologize for hiding her combined tax returns neither.
Spatula
@burnspbesq:
And yet, you always reply…
You’ll come crawling back…
geg6
@Spatula:
You are a child, with your excuses about how it’s not your fault, and people are just mean to you, and how easily you could lie about yourself so everyone else probably does, too. A spiteful, pitifully needy child. Grow the fuck up. It’s an old act, getting older by the second.
The Moar You Know
@Spatula: I know, boy. See ya around.
Spatula
@The Moar You Know:
I know, son. See ya around the corral. I got my eye on you, little critter.
Spatula
@geg6:
Hit a nerve with the truth, I see.
Pie me, douche.
NonyNony
@burnspbesq:
It’s freaking SPATULA! He/she/it was never worth any attention in the first place!
People must be really, really, really freaking on edge that Spatula of all people is getting their goats around here.
For Chrissakes people – Spatula! It isn’t even like it’s one of the interesting trolls. It’s Spats! If Spats is getting under your skin you probably need to get away from the computer for a while. Spats should, at his/her/its worst generate feelings of pity and possibly mild annoyance, not angry responses trying to take Spats seriously. Spats long ago proved that he/she/it isn’t here to be taken seriously, just here to annoy people.
Drop it and he/she/it will eventually get bored and go off to have a long cry in a corner somewhere. Taking Spats as a serious commenter is always a mistake.
Mnemosyne
@Spatula:
Fix’d for factual accuracy. Poor Timmeh, he won’t be ignored!
Spatula
@NonyNony:
NEVER! Never, I tell you!
I will not be ignorrrrrrrrrrrrrrred!
Grumpy Code Monkey
@Spatula:
To be fair, there is a slight difference between choosing not to prosecute and ignoring a court order.
Spatula
@Mnemosyne:
Hey memny, if you bothered to read the thread at all, you’d know that what you just wrote is a blatant lie.
But then, you don’t care. you’re cool with lies. That’s how you try to make most of your points.
Also, too, and additionally: Is that link supposed to be an insult? Glenn Close is fabulous.
Spatula
@Grumpy Code Monkey:
Grumpy, the commenter TO WHOM I WAS RESPONDING specifically made the point in reference to LAWS. I responded to that point.
I didn’t say anything about court orders. Thanks.
The Other Chuck
@geg6:
It’s Sully. She’s female. There are only that many dots to connect.
schrodinger's cat
@geg6: His problem is that she is a woman, remember his insane Hillary hate and his crazy obsession with Palin and her baby. He has a problem with powerful women with the exception of Thatcher.
The Other Chuck
@kay:
Ann respects no such rule, so I see no reason to apply it to her.
rea
@Spatula: I specifically said that both sides ignore LAWS
But, in your folly, you fail to grasp the difference between, on the one hand, picking and choosing which cases to prosecute, and on the other hand, defying a court order. Clue–it has never been the law, not even if you go all the way back to Hammurabi, that the prosecutor must prosecute every arguably prosecutable case.
Ralph Spoilsport
Husted, a Republican, sent a letter late Friday to Democrats Thomas Ritchie Sr. and Dennis Lieberman, telling them they failed to act consistently with his directive.
“You therefore leave me no choice but to begin the process necessary to remove you as members of the Montgomery County Board of Elections,” Husted wrote. He instructed Ritchie and Lieberman to appear at his office Monday for a hearing on why they shouldn’t be removed from the board.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/ap/ap/ohio/ohios-elections-chief-says-voting-should-be-easy/nRDgp/
The Other Chuck
@Ralph Spoilsport: Husted can now add wrongful termination suits to his troubles. Guy’s got a shovel and damn if he ain’t gonna dig til he cants digs no more.
ShadeTail
Hey, people, some of you really need to read NonyNony’s comment. There’s no point to getting worked up over a brainless dipshit like Spatula.
Three-nineteen
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Soonergrunt
@schrodinger’s cat: That’s because Thatcher was more masculine than him.
Spatula
@rea:
Once again: I never asserted otherwise. Quite the opposite, prosecutors choose which ones to pursue and which to not pursue, which is pretty much exactly what I wrote at #10, just before being told to fuck myself, get fucked, etc.
The quality of those choices and what they reveal about the administration making them is part of what we look at as voters.
You’re not even disagreeing with me, nor I with you.
LanceThruster
@Chris:
Well said.
Patricia Kayden
Good for the Obama administration for duking this out in Ohio. Force Husted and his ilk to obey the damn law, just like everyone else.
Rethugs are not above the law.
Pen
Wait… You can do that in WordPress? I seriously need to. Find that plugin/technique to impliment it on my personal site. If you’ve got info on how to show/hide comments by ip spill buster.
Dennis SGMM
@LanceThruster:
It wouldn’t be the first time.
kc
Fine his ass.
LanceThruster
@Dennis SGMM:
Isn’t that what ‘after action reports’ are for?
nastybrutishntall
There’s the smell of strawberry & rhubarb round these parts.
ericblair
Now, apparently, via TPM, “This Court hereby ORDERS that Defendant Secretary of State Jon Husted personally attend the [Sep 13] hearing,” U.S. District Judge Peter Economus wrote in an order Wednesday afternoon.”
So, does that mean that he should bring his toothbrush if he keeps this shit up?
Dennis SGMM
@LanceThruster:
We were facing some folks who were committed patriots and who were additionally damned good fighters. Because of the club-like air power (As in an unthinking hammer) we had in that place, they would most usually attack at night. So sometimes we thought we saw ’em coming in when they weren’t coming in.
LanceThruster
@Dennis SGMM:
Charlie owns the night (Victor Charles).
Haydnseek
@Patricia Kayden: Really! Let’s take the wayback machine to the year 2000. The case: Bush v. Gore. The SCOTUS demonstrated beyond a reasonable doubt that the repubs most certainly WERE above the law.
BruceK
@ericblair: Yeah, that language does sound like a judge who’s one small step away from throwing the Secretary’s personal kiester into the tank for contempt. One of the rules that we didn’t get out of the casebooks in law school, but that was drilled into us nonetheless, was: “don’t hork off the Judge.”
Yeah, I’m thinking that the Secretary had better pack a toothbrush, plus a change of underwear. Make that several changes.
That, or break the world record for groveling.
burnspbesq
@ericblair:
That is exactly what it means. They should put this hearing on ESPN and have Jay Bilas (who, FWIW, is a damn good lawyer) do the commentary. It’s going to be epic.
WaterGirl
It’s a sad day when a great post by kay brings up 65 matches to spatula, 30 of which match “@spatula”
That’s a lot of crap to have to skip over. We do it to ourselves with all the replies.
Spatula
@WaterGirl:
lol.
Who is “ourselves,” hall monitor?
Thanks for the careful and oddly obsessive summary of the numbers. Now maybe you should get a life.
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
I’ll offer you a deal; meet me anywhere within 150 miles of ZIP Code 91741. I promise not to bring any sort of firearm.
Email (Take out the dots) binhthuy71…at…yahoo….com.
I do not in any way promise not to harm you. If you have the stones to name time and place then harm you I will. Again; I will bring no firearms.
Mike Lamb
@Spatula: Except that deciding not to prosecute a certain case is, very often, the exact opposite of “ignoring” the laws. More often the not, it’s the result of an analysis of the facts/evidence in relation to existing laws that leads a prosecutor not to bring charges. Your whole “point” is completely backwards.
kay
@ericblair:
I’m pleased with that response. I was just on the phone with my sister, who is also a lawyer, and we were crowing.
Hah, hah, Husted has been ordered to APPEAR.
NEVER a happy message to get , I don’t care who the recipient of that order is :)
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM: @Dennis SGMM:
Either you are a spoof or you are a stereotypical psycho war vet. Call the closest mental hospital NOW and check yourself in. Do not wait. Do not delay. Do not tell yourself you are OK. Check yourself in.
BTW…given this post on top of your others, I would TOTALLY take your word on the firearms. Just wow.
Oh…and be sure to fuck off.
Spatula
@Mike Lamb:
OK, yeah, Mike…that’s it.
eye roll
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
@ericblair:
Awesome.
Dennis SGMM
@Spatula:
Where are you son? I’ve checked my email a few times since making my offer to you.
Now you were the one who accused me of being a phony.
Tell you what, sport. If you won’t take my word about the firearms, you can have your dangerous buds check me out before our encounter.
My suggestion is the BLM land to the East of Joshua Tree National Park.
Send the GPS coordords of your choice to the email addy above.
Mike Lamb
@Spatula: First, I didn’t say that was the case in all instances. I also didn’t argue that political factors don’t play a role in the decision to prosecute. But more often than not, it’s a decision based on the facts/law.
Second, please provide the evidence that prosecutorial discretion is based primarily on political as opposed to legal considerations (which appears to be your underlying working assumption throughout).
Thanks, I’ll wait.
Spatula
@Dennis SGMM:
Where am I? Staying far, far away from your psycho sister ass, war freak.
Spatula
@Mike Lamb:
You’re flailing, Mike. I never said that prosecutorial discretion is based PRIMARILY on political considerations…but you already know that.
However, in the cases of Bush Cheney and the banks/wall street, oh yes, dear sweet lord, only the most willfully naive Obot would pretend those potential cases were thoroughly investigated and deemed not to be prosecutable. What a laugh.
Again, it’s curious to find all these Bush apologists here at this allegedly progressive blog.
Randy P
@kay: And if he doesn’t? Can he be handcuffed and booked?
JR in WV
Does the pie filter work on Firefox running on Linux?
Will the judge send the Repugnant Secretary of State up the River?
Pleasse,pplease, please.
Patriots want to know.
Mike Lamb
@Spatula: Evidence or shut the fuck up.
Spatula
@Mike Lamb:
fuck off, bot
The Other Chuck
@WaterGirl: My troll filter filters out all replies too. Still, I do hate seeing threads turn all gray as they go on because some troll has once again taken it over.
Spatula
@The Other Chuck:
Hmmm…was it taken over by the troll or the BJ commenters who immediately began verbally abusing the troll?
Christ, you fucks are tribally blind and hateful to a stunning degree. It’s actually very interesting as a socio/cultural phenomenon.