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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2012 / Convention Weather and More Fact Checking Open Thread

Convention Weather and More Fact Checking Open Thread

by Soonergrunt|  September 6, 20123:09 pm| 121 Comments

This post is in: Election 2012, Open Threads, Our Failed Media Experiment, Teabagger Stupidity

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Fact checking the “fact checker” Matt Apuzzo over at Daily Kos.

Apuzzo and his bosses and coworkers at AP have doubled down on the twitter.  It just gets sadder and sadder.

After conservatives screaming about how there has to be something significant about the fact that the DNC cancelled the BofA stadium for tonight and moved everything indoors–Charles Krauthammer has been especially delicious “the Democrats knew what the weather would be three months ago!” we find…

100% chance of rain in Charlotte, NC tonight.

EDIT–Here’s hoping that John makes it back to the hotel in one piece tonight.

Maybe the god botherers should think about voting for Obama.  He can either control the weather, or has a direct line to someone who can.

Bill Clinton is going to be campaigning in the midwest on behalf of the President.

 

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  1. 1.

    Bobby Thomson

    September 6, 2012 at 3:12 pm

    Start with that mother fucker Poblano. Dude, you already got the Times gig. You don’t need to write hackery like that.

    ETA link: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/05/is-bad-weather-really-the-reason-to-move-obamas-speech-indoors/

  2. 2.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    September 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm

    But, but,.. the president controls the weather!

    Just like Hitler did!

  3. 3.

    Cassidy

    September 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    CNN is trying really hard to make Clinton’s speech a negative.

  4. 4.

    waratah

    September 6, 2012 at 3:14 pm

    Is John going to attend the convention tonight or doing his own thing?

  5. 5.

    jibeaux

    September 6, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Did they “fact check” any of Gingrich’s statements during the primaries by pointing out that he was a shitty husband, too? I mean, I know that’s not the primary problem with their “fact check” but holy pimiento cheese * to invent a rationale for this that applies only to Bill Clinton is fucking moronic.
    * I am getting hungry

  6. 6.

    gene108

    September 6, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    What kind of weak ass President can’t control the weather?

    I’m voting for Romney.

    He’ll make sure it rains in the right places and the trees are the right height.

  7. 7.

    jl

    September 6, 2012 at 3:15 pm

    Yahoo Weather forecast for Charlotte has rain with thunderstorms likely. But given new AP standards for fact checking, I guess that is irrelevant, since some say Obama ate dog once as a kid in Indonesia.

  8. 8.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 6, 2012 at 3:16 pm

    And Gore thought having Bill Clinton swinging hard for him would be bad WHY…?

    It reminds me. We keep joking about Romney that 1st rate leaders hire 1st rate talent and 2nd rate leaders hire 3rd rate talent. It applies here, as well. Obama has NO PROBLEM with the possibility Clinton might outshine him. He wants that speaking ability on his team.

  9. 9.

    SteveinSC

    September 6, 2012 at 3:18 pm

    I saw KrautHummer last night quite by accident. Dr. Strangelove rared back in his WC and proclaimed conspiracy over the rain “red herring” and demonstrated his belief in the prefect skill of the current NCEP weather models at the three month forecast level. Don’t tell me Republicans don’t believe in science.

  10. 10.

    Punchy

    September 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    Why do Repubs give a shit where Obama speaks?

  11. 11.

    Bob2

    September 6, 2012 at 3:20 pm

    The weather forecast says it’s going to rain, but back in 1996, the weather forecast said it was going to and then didn’t and then it had sex with an empty chair.

  12. 12.

    gene108

    September 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    @Cassidy:

    I lot of the media has to. If they accept it, the MSM has to go to the same conclusion President Clinton arrived at with his speech: The Republican Party is out of touch with Americans, they want to give money to the rich on the backs of the non-rich, and they will lie and cheat, in order to win.

    I don’t think the MSM is ready to accept the fact the Republican Party is not a functional participant in our democracy and really is some sort of fascist party that is only deterred from seeking absolute power, because of this country’s long history of democracy.

  13. 13.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    September 6, 2012 at 3:22 pm

    “the Democrats knew what the weather would be three months ago!”

    Our powers are apparently formidable.

  14. 14.

    Raven

    September 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    @Punchy: The party line is that the Dems couldn’t fill the stadium. It’s all fucking bullshit but they are like little jack russell bitches.

  15. 15.

    AliceBlue

    September 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    It occurred to me that maybe the speech is being moved indoors on recommendation of the Secret Service. I’m not being paranoid about the discovery of a full scale assassination attempt, but perhaps there’s something in the wind.

  16. 16.

    Bobby Thomson

    September 6, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    @Punchy: It’s just the latest Greek columns rant. They have to yell about something and they are bears of little brain.

  17. 17.

    MikeJ

    September 6, 2012 at 3:24 pm

    @Punchy:

    Why do Repubs give a shit where Obama speaks

    A few months ago they started trying to get people to believe that Obama could no longer sell out a stadium, people just don’t like him that much any more, etc.

  18. 18.

    Brachiator

    September 6, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @Cassidy:

    CNN is trying really hard to make Clinton’s speech a negative.

    And with this, the news media continues their long decline into dulled irrelevance.

    The smart thing to do, the only damn thing that matters, is how voters reacted to the speech.

    Not pundits. Not the GOP opposition. Not reporters. Not even convention delegates (although this is of some importance).

    Voters.

    But presidential political coverage is now as hackneyed as NBC Olympic Games coverage. Forced, focused on horse races, and the bored reaction of Villagers.

    What did Shakespeare say about tales told by idiots?

  19. 19.

    SteveinSC

    September 6, 2012 at 3:25 pm

    @Raven: Oh, how they would laugh if the Dems were caught outdoors in a rain storm. They are trying to have it both ways.

  20. 20.

    Comrade Jake

    September 6, 2012 at 3:27 pm

    https://twitter.com/mattapuzzo/status/243574444482781185

    Someone’s not very talented at doubling-down.

  21. 21.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    September 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    Fact checking the “fact checker”

    __
    Quis custodiet ipsos custodes never gets old, does it?

  22. 22.

    jl

    September 6, 2012 at 3:28 pm

    @Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:

    Dems are resourceful and can read those woodland signs:

    Red sky in morning
    Krauthammer warning
    Blue sky at night
    stadium weather delight.

  23. 23.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    What did Shakespeare say about tales told by idiots?

    “Bringeth the popped corn, Horatio, the downs are doubling”

  24. 24.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 6, 2012 at 3:30 pm

    Charles Krauthammer has been especially delicious “the Democrats knew what the weather would be three months ago!” we find…

    It is indeed fortunate for Chuckles the Clown here that stupidity like this is not a capital crime in this country, because he’d be before a death panel faster than you can say Captain Jack Sparrow.

  25. 25.

    Shinobi

    September 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    @AliceBlue: Agreed. That was my first thought when they cancelled it 3 days before. It is much easier to secure an indoor location than an outdoor one. If there have been credible threats it makes sense that they would move things indoors.

  26. 26.

    Persia

    September 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    @SteveinSC: I am baffled that the party that scheduled their party convention in Florida during hurricane season, near the anniversary of Hurricane Katrina, thinks this is a winning strategy, and even more baffled that news organizations seem to agree.

  27. 27.

    Tractarian

    September 6, 2012 at 3:31 pm

    The mistake was planning for a stadium speech in the first place.

    That may have been appropriate in 2008, when part of the point of the convention was to establish that this isn’t an ordinary Democrat; this is a phenomenon. It’s not appropriate for 2012, though, where a more reflective and somber approach is called for.

    Whatever the reason for the switch to the arena, it’s a blessing in disguise for Obama.

  28. 28.

    roc

    September 6, 2012 at 3:32 pm

    I love how fact-checking has moved on from “verifying whether statements of objective fact are true or false” to “yeah-but”.

    Clinton score some points you can’t refute?
    Democrats created more jobs? Yeah-but blowjob.
    Congressional deadlock harming the economy? Yeah-but finger-pointing.
    Ryan lies like a rug? Yeah-but bootstraps.

    It’s that old ratfuck playbook: open with fear-uncertainty-doubt. And when FUD fails, pivot to embrace-extend-extinguish.

    “We don’t need fact checking” has given way to trying to co-opt fact-checking, turning it into something it explicitly isn’t to confuse and annoy the audience. And next will be pointing to the subjective mess they’ve made as proof of their earlier claims about agendas and bias and claiming they were right all along.

  29. 29.

    cckids

    September 6, 2012 at 3:34 pm

    Oh, Christ, the R’s are running with the “Dems omit God” crap. I am so weary of this dumbfuc*ery. An acquaintance emailed a screed about it. Usually I ignore, couldn’t today. I replied, “I will stick with the party that lives the values Christ preached; care for the least among us, the poor, the sick, the needy. The party that isn’t full of nosy bigots. The party that supports our troops, not just in hot-air pronouncements, but in reality. The party that is proud of the community of our country, not the exclusionary IGMFY country club rump. Seriously, read your New Testament & read the speeches given over the past 2 weeks; which side would Jesus be with?”

    Only reply was “I thought you were an atheist”.

  30. 30.

    Brendan Montgomery

    September 6, 2012 at 3:35 pm

    Heck – never mind tonight – we just got a downpour now!

  31. 31.

    trollhattan

    September 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    For open thread: Amazon unveils a metric buttload of new Kindle models.

    http://seattletimes.com/html/technologybrierdudleysblog/2019082483_amazon_1.html

    Also, too, Media Matters accumulates five econ reporters who say, “Why yes, we are better off.”

    http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/09/06/five-veteran-economics-reporters-who-say-were-b/189773

    Commies.

  32. 32.

    Villago Delenda Est

    September 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @cckids:

    The Christ of the GOP is nothing like the Christ of the New Testament.

    The GOP Christ is the son of Mammon. And they love him to pieces. The entire “prosperity gospel” is naked heresy.

  33. 33.

    joes527

    September 6, 2012 at 3:36 pm

    @waratah: Did anyone find it odd that John, who will not let his picture be taken was suddenly all “uuh … I have to see this guy … about this thing” and then shortly after he steps out, in steps the Big Dog.

    I’ve seen this movie before.

  34. 34.

    kindness

    September 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    One of my good buds is a Cleveland native and he want’s to piss on Art Model’s grave. Where are they burying that guy anyhow?

  35. 35.

    flukebucket

    September 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    LOL! Remember the picture of Romney in the stadium in Detroit? Hell, he couldn’t even fill up 10 yards of the field.

  36. 36.

    Raven

    September 6, 2012 at 3:37 pm

    @Brendan Montgomery: RADAR

  37. 37.

    Linda Featheringill

    September 6, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    @AliceBlue: #15

    It occurred to me that maybe the speech is being moved indoors on recommendation of the Secret Service. I’m not being paranoid about the discovery of a full scale assassination attempt, but perhaps there’s something in the wind.

    That occurred to me, too. FSM knows, the Secret Service have a big job keeping the Prez safe.

    And that doesn’t mean that we are paranoiac. It means we’re realistic.

  38. 38.

    mdblanche

    September 6, 2012 at 3:38 pm

    @Bobby Thomson: I keep hearing them refer to Greek columns, but WTF is that even supposed to mean?

  39. 39.

    trollhattan

    September 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    @kindness:
    Adjacent to Jimmy Hoffa?

  40. 40.

    Tractarian

    September 6, 2012 at 3:39 pm

    @flukebucket:

    Why, yes. Yes I do.

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    September 6, 2012 at 3:40 pm

    @mdblanche:
    Part of the ’08 stage set in Denver. Fit the “Obama thinks he’s gawd” meme. Yeah, they’ve been that desperate the whole time.

  42. 42.

    Bulworth

    September 6, 2012 at 3:42 pm

    After conservatives screaming about how there has to be something significant about the fact that the DNC cancelled the BofA stadium for tonight and moved everything indoors—Charles Krauthammer has been especially delicious “the Democrats knew what the weather would be three months ago!” we find…

    The GOPteabag party: focusing like a laser beam on the economy.

  43. 43.

    celticdragonchick

    September 6, 2012 at 3:43 pm

    Raining right now in Greensboro.

  44. 44.

    mdblanche

    September 6, 2012 at 3:44 pm

    @trollhattan: If you say so. Man, epistemic closure is one hell of a drug.

  45. 45.

    jp7505a

    September 6, 2012 at 3:45 pm

    Last night was the first night in a week that I didn’t get wet going out to dinner here in Charlotte. It’s a humid tropical air mass, can rain any time. Do we really want a repeat of what happend at the Indiana state fair when the stage was destroyed by a thunderstorm.

    Of course if lightening did strke at the stadium, it would just confirm in the wingers minds that God was really pissed with the democrats in genetral and Obama in particular

  46. 46.

    Cassidy

    September 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @Tractarian:

    where a more reflective and somber approach is called for.

    Have you been asleep the last couple of days?

  47. 47.

    MikeJ

    September 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @jp7505a:

    Do we really want a repeat of what happend at the Indiana state fair when the stage was destroyed by a thunderstorm.

    Before I answer, where would Chuck Todd be sitting?

  48. 48.

    Bobby Thomson

    September 6, 2012 at 3:47 pm

    @mdblanche: Back in ’08 drudge was flogging a story that the Denver convention was a huge ego thing for Obama, complete with “Greek columns” in the stage set for his outdoor speech.

    You’ll note that theme was incredibly effective for them.

  49. 49.

    rdldot

    September 6, 2012 at 3:50 pm

    @Punchy: Because it makes Obama look bad if he can’t fill up the stadium, and nothing makes Republicans happier than Obama looking bad..

  50. 50.

    jwb

    September 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: This makes me think of Moloch!

  51. 51.

    Turgidson

    September 6, 2012 at 3:53 pm

    @Raven:

    Leave Rosie out of this!

  52. 52.

    RSA

    September 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    So when Romney said this last week,

    We’re going to go after these things. Measure us. Hold us accountable.

    AP fact-checkers must have said that Romney still hasn’t produced more than a year’s worth of tax returns, and therefore he shouldn’t be trusted when he talks about accountability. Hmm. I don’t recall that happening.

  53. 53.

    wrb

    September 6, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    The entire “prosperity gospel” is naked heresy.

    So’s the Book of Mormon http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/atlarge/2012/08/13/120813crat_atlarge_gopnik

    I wonder how fundies deal with the idea that God is a dead Mormon dude who drew this planet, has multiple wives and did the nasty with Mary in person to make Jesus.

  54. 54.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    September 6, 2012 at 3:57 pm

    Like I said before, you can’t trust that % thing when it comes to rain round here in the summer. I went to weather.com on Sunday when there was a thunderstorm outside and it said that it was “sunny and clear” in my area. Even the satellite told me it wasn’t raining which was funny cause there was all this wet stuff coming from the sky.

  55. 55.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    September 6, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @AliceBlue: Lighting doesn’t respect crowds or presidents.

  56. 56.

    catclub

    September 6, 2012 at 4:01 pm

    @jwb: what turgidson said @ 50.

    Leave Tunch out of this!

  57. 57.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 4:02 pm

    I’m picking out clothes – does anyone know the weather at 10:00 am on Saturday 90 days from now?

  58. 58.

    gogol's wife

    September 6, 2012 at 4:04 pm

    @MikeJ:

    We’ve recently had a discussion about how uncool LOL is, but LOL. Sometimes it’s the only thing to say. I just feel I have to applaud some of these comments.

  59. 59.

    Paul

    September 6, 2012 at 4:05 pm

    @Raven:

    Which is fricking hilarious considering that when Obama drew those huge crowds in 2008, they accused him of being a celebrity.

    It doesn’t matter what Obama does; the pathetic whiners on the far right will oppose him. They just can’t stand it when an African-American is successful.

    Paul Ryan is the poster boy for this; he opposed Bowles-Simpson as soon as he found out Obama was for it.

  60. 60.

    trollhattan

    September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    @gogol’s wife:
    +1. Or, LLOOLL.

  61. 61.

    Poopyman

    September 6, 2012 at 4:07 pm

    I’m surprised to find an email from Donna Edwards, telling me that she’s speaking at 5:30 and providing the text of her speech. Never got one of those before.

  62. 62.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    September 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    I’m picking out clothes – does anyone know the weather at 10:00 am on Saturday 90 days from now?

    __
    Partly cloudy with a chance of stupid.

  63. 63.

    IowaOldLady

    September 6, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    I saw that thing about knowing the weather months ago this morning and thought it was a joke. These people are putting the comedy writers out of business.

  64. 64.

    Raven

    September 6, 2012 at 4:09 pm

    @Paul: Shit eatin dog fuckers the lot of em.

  65. 65.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    I think it’s that they are butt-hurt that they can’t get pictures of a half-empty stadium with wet conventiongoers huddled under unbrellas or a canopy. This convention has been too efficient, too happy, too inspiring. Makes the Republicans look terrible, all those happy people dancing and drinking and being all mellow.

    Then they could push the meme that “Obama’s losing his appeal” with pictures. Even if half the stadium was unusable.

    After all, the RNC was one long snarl.

  66. 66.

    trollhattan

    September 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @Paul:
    Hey, maybe awesome Paul Ryan can circle the convention center yelling “Honk, honk!” in place of the Romney campaign bus? He’s more awesomely awesome than any ol’ bus.

  67. 67.

    Hoodie

    September 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    Big cell over downtown Charlotte as we speak.

  68. 68.

    Hill Dweller

    September 6, 2012 at 4:10 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    It reminds me. We keep joking about Romney that 1st rate leaders hire 1st rate talent and 2nd rate leaders hire 3rd rate talent. It applies here, as well. Obama has NO PROBLEM with the possibility Clinton might outshine him. He wants that speaking ability on his team.

    Not only did Obama want Clinton giving that speech, he loaned out some of his top advisers(many who served in Clinton’s admin) to help him write the speech.

  69. 69.

    danah gaz

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    Ohio Sec. of state Husted flips off judge
    Judge prepares to bitchslap Husted
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/06/1128464/-Judge-orders-Ohio-secretary-of-state-to-show-up-personally-to-explain-why-he-s-ignoring-court-order

    oops.

  70. 70.

    trollhattan

    September 6, 2012 at 4:12 pm

    @CarolDuhart2:
    From what I’ve seen (on C-SPAN, thanks) the DNC’s organization and schedule are more on target than the ride lines at Disneyland. They’ve evidently mastered cat-herding after all.

  71. 71.

    Violet

    September 6, 2012 at 4:13 pm

    Obama controls the weather. Remember how Limbaugh said Hurricane Isaac was all Obama’s fault.

  72. 72.

    Randy P

    September 6, 2012 at 4:14 pm

    For the sake of argument, let’s say Democrats have the godlike weather prediction and control powers the Republicans are attributing to them.

    Can somebody explain why moving an event from outdoors to indoors is a source of outrage? What am I missing here?

  73. 73.

    Raven

    September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @Violet: He also said Obama couldn’t fill Black Panther Stadium.

  74. 74.

    CarolDuhart2

    September 6, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    @Hill Dweller: That’s why Obama is the incumbent President. It took top-rate talent to turn a black half-Kenyan into the first black President. Given the odds against him, even the most optimistic thought he would just make the nomination.

    Which is one thing about Obama I’m surprised his opponents don’t really get. Given the odds, how can he be the superficial person you make him out to be, opponents?

  75. 75.

    Yutsano

    September 6, 2012 at 4:17 pm

    @gogol’s wife: You can have my LOL when you pry it from my cold dead hands!!

  76. 76.

    slag

    September 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    So, why did BJ help send the Cole to NC again? To get him drunk enough that he would quit all that blogging stuff he was so prolific with?

  77. 77.

    waratah

    September 6, 2012 at 4:18 pm

    They do not have the schedule for tonight posted on the convention site yet and I think it is supposed to start soon.

  78. 78.

    Mike E

    September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Fuck Al Gore and his “play not to lose” strategy. Seriously. And thanks a pantload!

  79. 79.

    Patricia Kayden

    September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    “Bill Clinton is going to be campaigning in the midwest on behalf of the President.”

    Yahoosh!! Go get them, Bill!

  80. 80.

    danah gaz

    September 6, 2012 at 4:19 pm

    A certain troll was all lulzy last week because the DNC had scheduled Clinton’s speech opposite of the NFL kickoff.

    Yet Clinton’s speech has more twitter traction than Romney’s… and clinton isn’t running for prez!

    hehehe. Sweet, delicious wingnut tears.

    This, also too. =)

  81. 81.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    auto bailout – GOP idea until…
    obamacare – GOP idea until…
    tax cut stimulus – GOP idea until…
    spending stimulus – GOP idea until…
    Cutting Medicaid waste – GOP idea until…
    Libya – GOP idea until…
    Going into Afghanistan – GOP idea until…
    Staying in Afghanistan – GOP idea until…
    Surging in Afghanistan – GOP idea until…
    Leaving Afghanistan – GOP idea until…

  82. 82.

    Mary G

    September 6, 2012 at 4:22 pm

    ABL tweeted to Cole earlier that they needed to meet up since she had heard the Secret Service was closing the arena by 3 p.m. He hasn’t tweeted since Tuesday night. She is there now in a giraffe print dress obsessing about cheeseburgers and Cory Booker, but no mention of JC.

    Since he posted last night that his liver and ATM card were exhausted, I assume he found another cute redhead in a bar somewhere, but I’m little worried he’s OK.

    In other news, good word from ADP about more jobs created than expected and something or other I don’t even begin to understand about Europe made the market feel better, the Dow Jones went up 244 points today. I am getting a huge schadenfreude rush imagining Republicans crying in their single-malt Scotch today. Memeorandum has more Democrats on it than they’ve had in the last three months, only way down the page you come to the NY Post complaining about Scarlett Johanssen and Kerry Washington speaking for Obama, who couldn’t get a Real Man like Clint Eastwood.

  83. 83.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    @Punchy: This is why they care.

    Thunder’s already booming up here in Raleigh. My eldest cat is in her bunker under the side table yet again. I don’t blame the campaign one teensy little bit.

  84. 84.

    Mike E

    September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    @celticdragonchick: Boooming here in Raleigh.

    ETA sister beat me to it…we like to call this “afternoon popups”

  85. 85.

    danah gaz

    September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    @Culture of Truth: sheesh. I can’t tell if you are firebagging or pointing out the hypocrisy of the GOP. =)

    heh

  86. 86.

    Southern Beale

    September 6, 2012 at 4:23 pm

    The GOP is doubling down on the stupid:

    ‏@Reince
    I hear from our team in Charlotte that it’s a beautiful day in NC – hardly a cloud in the sky ! #DNC2012

    Yes by all means, keep mouthing off about stuff that can be SO EASILY CHECKED. Morons.

  87. 87.

    SBJules

    September 6, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    Stock market up; a better than anticipated job report; my President talking today….A very good day!

  88. 88.

    GxB

    September 6, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @Randy P: When all you got are straws, you grasp ’em in a death grip.

    From another thread there was a link to Rolling Stone, articles are fine as always but the comment sections are roiling with right wing rage. My they’re getting testy.

  89. 89.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 4:26 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: I have just the t-shirt for that.

  90. 90.

    MikeJ

    September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    If Obama can control the sun, why not the rain?

  91. 91.

    gypsy howell

    September 6, 2012 at 4:27 pm

    Fact checking the “fact checker” Matt Apuzzo over at Daily Kos.

    Well, you know, there are actual real-world reality-based “facts” and then there are the fact-checkers’ coin of the realm which I now just call “politi-facts”. They have the ring of truthiness to them.

  92. 92.

    David Hunt

    September 6, 2012 at 4:29 pm

    @CarolDuhart2:

    Which is one thing about Obama I’m surprised his opponents don’t really get. Given the odds, how can he be the superficial person you make him out to be, opponents?

    Simple evidence and extrapolation. Mitt Romney is almost completely superficial and they think he could be President. And he doesn’t even have the advantage of being black and having all those affirmative action boosts working for him. Ergo, Obama must be even more superficial than Mitt.

    Oh lord, my brain hurts. Don’t ask questions that make me think like GOPpers.

  93. 93.

    SatanicPanic

    September 6, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    @Southern Beale: The weather is different in their alternative universe.

  94. 94.

    Southern Beale

    September 6, 2012 at 4:30 pm

    In all seriousness, if what’s headed to Charlotte is what passed through Nashville last night, TAKE COVER. It was one hellacious electrical storm.

  95. 95.

    Tractarian

    September 6, 2012 at 4:34 pm

    @slag:

    So, why did BJ help send the Cole to NC again? To get him drunk enough that he would quit all that blogging stuff he was so prolific with?

    Apparently. Also, to practice his paparazzi-avoidance skills.

    And just think, all that dough you people plunked down for Cole’s DNC bender could have gone to neglected downballot races.

  96. 96.

    Cris (without an H)

    September 6, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    @waratah: They do not have the schedule for tonight posted on the convention site yet and I think it is supposed to start soon.

    I’m finding this annoying, particularly because I want to know if and when Gov. Schweitzer is going to speak.

  97. 97.

    Poopyman

    September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    Convention schedule is here.

  98. 98.

    GxB

    September 6, 2012 at 4:39 pm

    @Southern Beale: In the famous last words of Dr Bowman “The thing’s hollow… It goes on forever, and… Oh My God!… It’s full of stupid!”

  99. 99.

    danah gaz

    September 6, 2012 at 4:40 pm

    @GxB: lol

  100. 100.

    waratah

    September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Poopyman: Thank you it was not posted when I looked.

  101. 101.

    Poopyman

    September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    Weather radar loop for western NC is here.

    Looks like pop-ups for the next couple of hours, but that’s already been said. :^)

  102. 102.

    Southern Beale

    September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    THIS cracked me up!

    ‏@cskendrick
    Republicans were for #DNC2012 getting rained out until they were against it.

    Remember in 2008 that Focus On The Family’s Stuart Shepard asked everyone to pray for “torrential rains of Biblical proportions.” Typical flip-floppers!

    LOL!

  103. 103.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 4:42 pm

    @Cris (without an H): I have him just before Crist who is just before Kerry who speaks at 9:00 eastern

  104. 104.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 4:43 pm

    – Granholm
    – Eva Longoria
    – Brian Schweitzer
    – Crist

  105. 105.

    jwb

    September 6, 2012 at 4:44 pm

    @Southern Beale: Just, watch, Fox will start running footage from Phoenix or some such sun-drenched place that looks nothing like Charlotte and yet label it as “Charlotte.”

  106. 106.

    dmsilev

    September 6, 2012 at 4:47 pm

    Clearly, Obama is the Thunder God. This explains why we haven’t seen that gigantic gavel that Nancy Pelosi had for a while; Obama needed it back.

  107. 107.

    sacrablue

    September 6, 2012 at 4:48 pm

    @Cris (without an H): I saw a DNC schedule on TPM livewire. Gov Scnweitzer is on the schedule.

  108. 108.

    ericblair

    September 6, 2012 at 4:50 pm

    @jwb:

    Just, watch, Fox will start running footage from Phoenix or some such sun-drenched place that looks nothing like Charlotte and yet label it as “Charlotte.”

    With palm trees and a roadrunner standing in the foreground, given the level of care and intelligence they’ve been displaying.

  109. 109.

    sacrablue

    September 6, 2012 at 4:51 pm

    @sacrablue: nevermind (can’t edit my own comments)

  110. 110.

    Cris (without an H)

    September 6, 2012 at 4:55 pm

    @sacrablue: Oh cool! In fact, the DNC has now updated their page to show the whole schedule. My man BS is speaking between 8 and 9… right after Eva Longoria, apparently

  111. 111.

    Mnemosyne

    September 6, 2012 at 4:57 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    Weather Underground is usually way more accurate than Weather.com because they have lots of little weather stations all around town. It’s especially great here in the Los Angeles area because we have a ton of microclimates thanks to the terrain:

    http://www.wunderground.com

  112. 112.

    Culture of Truth

    September 6, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    Obama is part of Weather Underground. Of course. It all makes sense now.

  113. 113.

    Jay C

    September 6, 2012 at 5:09 pm

    @Poopyman:

    OK, is this forrealz? The closing benediction is scheduled to be given by Timothy F*cking Cardinal Dolan??

    Is he going to ceremonially anathematize and excommunicate the whole Convention en masse?

    So much for the “purging God” stuff (though Dolan’s actual relationship to The Big Guy is still an open question IMO…)

  114. 114.

    Paul

    September 6, 2012 at 5:12 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Hey, maybe awesome Paul Ryan can circle the convention center yelling “Honk, honk!” in place of the Romney campaign bus? He’s more awesomely awesome than any ol’ bus.

    Don’t get me started…Romney is supposedly running for President, yet he is behaving like an arrogant, spoiled little child who never grew up. Not all that different than George W Bush when you think about it.

  115. 115.

    Turgidson

    September 6, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @Mary G:

    the NY Post complaining about Scarlett Johanssen and Kerry Washington speaking for Obama, who couldn’t get a Real Man like Clint Eastwood.

    Obama, you sly dog. Masterful way to get some male voters back.

  116. 116.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 6, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @Yutsano:
    Can I sell you on a ‘BWAHAHAHAHA!’? You seem like a man of wealth and taste style.

  117. 117.

    LAC

    September 6, 2012 at 5:54 pm

    Is this really what the fucktards on the right are wacking off to? Jaysus, losers are sad…

  118. 118.

    Emma

    September 6, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    @Jay C: Yes, it’s for real. I have a feeling that someone approached the Cardinal and whispered in a Chicago rasp, “that’s a nice tax exemption you’ve got there. I’d be a shame if something happened to it.”

  119. 119.

    Mnemosyne

    September 6, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    @Mary G:

    To be fair, Real Men would rather look at other Real Men like Eastwood than at hot chicks like Johanssen and Washington, or so I’ve been told. Apparently looking at girls means you’re gay, but looking at other guys means you’re a Real Manly Man.

  120. 120.

    quannlace

    September 6, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    “There on a high stool in a high tower, on a high hill
    sits the Head Spotter of the Weather Makers”

    Another of Obama’x secret powers!

  121. 121.

    JR in WV

    September 6, 2012 at 9:01 pm

    Watching the second channel of local TV, reruns of old cop series, there’s a political commercial, it’s President Bill (William Jefferson) Clinton, telling everyone the Romney/Ryan budget just doesn’t add up, and if Medicaid goes south as in the R’s plan, so does Medicare.

    He’s running hard for Barack Obama, and I’m glad!

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