Will Mark Halperin be his VP (via)?
After the presidential inauguration in January, Joe (no fan of Mitt Romney’s—”I’ve been very critical”) plans on publishing a memoir that will serve—no joke—as a vehicle to test the waters for a presidential run in 2016.
(The “Joe” here is Scarborough.)
Update. This is what it’s come to: Washington Post editorial members brag when Joe Scarborough likes their pieces.
@chucklane1 @morning_joe You are actually proud to be recommended by Joe Scarborough?
— Doug Johnson (@DougJBalloon) September 11, 2012
A dead intern in every pot.
I love the tag! Bring on the meteor, indeed.
You might add a “[Scarborough]” to the post – when I see that a “Joe” might test the waters for a 2016 run, I think Biden …
And Stockholm Mika by his side.
Villago Delenda Est
There is no way this vile slimeball runs.
He’s got the skeleton of an intern in his closet. He’s as fucked as Huckabee is. Never going to hold an elective office again.
@Warren Terra: I was thinking Lieberman.
Do it, Joe. Mika has been lobby for either veep or press secretary for a long time, too. Don’t forget her!
There’s no way he gets the Republican nomination after working for MSNBC. That’s worse than Huntsman working for the dusky usurper.
The Other Bob
I was thinking Joe Biden and thought: “This is news?”
You mean, as an indy, right? There’s a Dilly Bar’s chance in Phoenix that a man employed by Librul MSNBC(TM) gets the nod as a Repub Prez candy. Especially how nuckin’ futz the Pubs will be 4 years from now.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
I didn’t know what to say when I saw that quote, and I knew who Joe was, but I clicked on the link to be sure, and between Mika (she’s wearing Donna Karen!) and the by-line of would-be Serious Historian Douglas Brinkley. I am ready to be beamed up.
That said, if Joe Scarborough wants to run on Paul Ryan’s privatize and voucherize original plan in ’16, fuckin’ bring it, one more crab in the pot, and a particularly cranky crab.
That picture at the link ….
They are outright saying that Mika is furniture.
I have no love for Mika, but shit. Get some self respect.
I realize people don’t like Joe Scarborough much, and I don’t see any reason why they should, but nobody seriously thinks he killed his intern – right? Other than in an “it would be irresponsible not to speculate” way, of course.
Mika: What’s all this fuss I’ve been hearing about the 2016 presidential erection??
If it means the end of that abomination they call a morning show, I’m all for that half-wit running for President.
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yup; neither Scarborough nor Huckabee has any electoral future.
Since Jeb can’t change his name, gotta figure the runners will be Ryan and Christie (though running may not be an apt description for him).
Villago Delenda Est
There’s no way to know, because the investigation was so perfunctory.
However, the taint is there.
@Steve: She wasn’t an intern. She was a paid staffer.
@Suffern ACE: And I was thinking Mr. The Plumber.
I laughed out loud at this: “Joe, a moderate Republican”. Sure, whatever you say.
@joes527: Yes, Mika,that cheerleader-does-Playboy-but-there’s-no-nudity pose is just sad. No amount of money is worth your self-respect.
Joe will do at least as well in 2016 as Jon Huntsman did this year, maybe. His picture could illustrate “blowhard” in the dictionary.
This is off-topic, but, hey… pretty funny anyways.
That pic is tres strange. I wonder if Leibovitz shot it?
@The Dangerman: I thought that Huntsman was positioning himself for 2016…
My guess … Someone no one is talking about in 2012 will be on the R ticket in 2016.
The picture with that article.
I just can’t…I mean..W.T.F. Mika???
I subscribe to the digital version of Vanity Fair and when I read this article this morning (and don’t miss that absolutely ridiculous photo of Mika doing a high kick), I almost choked on my yogurt.
His running mate would be Mayor Bloomberg, people. Duh.
As an aside, Joe Scarborough actually blocked me on Twitter, which I wear as a badge of fucking courage. :-)
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
MIka’s brother, btw, is a top neo-con and a Romney campaign advisor, which must make for some interesting family dinners, considering Poppa Zbig suffers fools ungladly and can barely contain his contempt for Iraq War supporters
Yep. And seeing him get 2% in Iowa and New Hampshire and quietly slink off the stage would be the cherry on top. Hopefully after that, only Fox or some wingnut fail factory will touch him and he’ll leave the rest of us the fuck alone finally.
He must expect the current GOP to collapse between now and then.
You’re not going to believe this, but…Jim Cramer has a sad.
@The Dangerman: I’ll go out on a limb and predict that Tim Pawlenty will not find his mojo in time to run in 2016.
just spilled a cup of morning joe all over myself
Oh, do it, Joe! We need your bipartisan and independent-minded centrism to sssspfffffaahahahahaha oh God I can’t even finish that sentence.
On the other hand, Lou Dobbs still hasn’t launched is campaign.
Honestly, though, I would like to request the front pagers to get together and agree not to post nuttin that would cause us to speculate about 2016 candidates until 2015. One of the unnerving parts of the horse race focus of our media is that the campaigns start 4 years too early. And everything anyone does is interpreted in light of a presidential campaign.
Even the Russians are mocking us for the way we go about choosing representatives.
Christie will run and when he is on the verge of WIN! there will be an unfortunate encounter with a Japanese whaling ship.
He’ll never be heard from again.
@gbear: TPaw running again would make wifey very very stabby. And not in a good way.
In 2016, Ryan, Scarborough, Pawlenty, and Huntsman will be far too moderate to get the nomination of the even-crazier-than-today GOP. I think they’ll nominate Santorum.
The good news: it was research whaling.
Tony Soprano as Chris Christie…the mind reels.
Christie will not run. Waddle, maybe.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
A black man was able to become president after writing two books. Joe figures that any white man can do it with one book.
@Ben Cisco: Re: Jim Cramer having a sad? Looks like Pennsylvania wasn’t digging the bad publicity and happily stepped in to fix the Voter ID problem… but just for Cramer’s dad.
In other words, if you have a famous kid, you can vote in Pennsylvania with no hassle. Everyone else who is poor or elderly can suck it!
Culture of Truth
That’s fucking hilarious.
[ C-3PO voice ]
“Now he’s getting delusions of grandeur!”
Can’t blame him. The GOP candidacy has turned into the highest rung of the wingnut welfare ladder.
I realise it’s a cliché to applaud DougJ post titles, but I like this one a lot.
Whatever. 2016 is their last rodeo.
Mika should be careful on that table, lest she slip and hit her head.
My nerves are a little shot for 2016, but if I were speculating, I think it will hinge on which candidate will allow us to gracefully exit the third Sino-Japanese War and the Great Syrian-Turkish-Persian-Arabian-Israeli Mess For The Ages while convincing ourselves that we won.
“Hey, Pennsylvania state government? I can’t vote either. My son’s name is, uh, Rocky Roethlisberger. I’d appreciate you clearing that up for me, thanks.”
Ann B. Nonymous
Is Mika’s pose the one Lori Klausutis had before her head hit the desk?
And here I thought the S/Z post title had secured the too-darn-highfalutin sweepstakes for all time … DougJ, I misunderestimated ya
Don’t forget the Great Nanobot Uprising of 2015.
I’d bet on Christie, but if the economy’s still too shaky and/or the Democratic candidate field is fairly strong, he might put it off another election cycle. He wants the presidency, he’s got more chance than Paul Ryan and he’s been smart enough to sit out this current clusterfuck.
The guy who killed a married intern he was fucking plans to run for president?
Boy, the bubble he lives in is thick.
Lori Klausutis – that was the staffer’s name and I guess the medical examiner said she had a cardiac issue. I hope he runs. Morning Ho is much better when he’s not around. I’m not sure why he thinks he has the qualifications. If he’s going to do it with Bloomberg it should be Bloomberg as the Prez and Scarbo as the Veep. Bloomy’s got way more credentials than Scarbo.
And you can’t take Ryan’s claimed time at face value, either.
I suspect a Christie Admin would rescind all regulations on (olive) oil, “natural” gas, and chinese buffets.
Not this early we don’t. This is not normal. Who was talking about 2012 back in September of 2008? Or talking about 2008 back in September of 2004? Etc. The lede on this story, buried it has been. The real story here is that Mittens is toast and everybody in the Village knows it but they can’t say it in public. They are already bored with this year’s contest. Hence all the 2016 talk.
So, it turns out Karl Rove told Susan G Komen CEO Nancy Brinker to back off of Planned Parenthood. So IOW Komen was basically a GOP front group.
Culture of Truth
Not to be confused with the “smell of fear”.
Yup. I’ll consider taking cable news pundits (a tiny bit) seriously when the women are allowed to wear flipping trousers.
It is completely ludicrous the way that the women on these shows are selected for their appearance and are clothed to show off their charms, while the guys have to be not-very-obese and wear a suit, not necessarily very well.
You will note that politically opinionated women who expect to have their opinions taken seriously – Rachel Maddow most obviously, but also Samantha Bee, and she’s a comedian – are not so sartorially constrained or demeaned.
@joes527: There seem to be quite a few Republicans trying to position themselves to be the savior of the party once it recovers its sanity. However, they all seem to be delusional enough to think that will happen by 2016.
The caption for that photo should read simply…
“Pimpin’ ain’t easy”
…because that’s exactly what it looks like.
Zbig must so be proud of his little Mika.
By 2016 Santorum will be too moderate to get the GOP nomination. With Citizens United, the Right Wing has opened up their very own Little Shop of Crazy, and all you can hear coming out the front door is “FEEEEED ME, Seymour!”. This isn’t going to end until somebody important gets ate.
@joes527: someone no one has ever heard of will be the GOP VP nominee in 2016, but not at the top of the ticket, that’s not how the Republicans work… The Republicans always (1952 and 2000 excepted) pick the guy who is next in line. Look at it:
1960: Nixon (VP)
1964: Goldwater (senior Senator)
1968: Nixon (former VP, did his time in the wilderness)
1972: Nixon (re-election)
1976: Ford (appointed by Nixon to take over)
1980: Reagan (lost in ’76)
1984: Reagan (re-election)
1988: GHW Bush (lost in ’80, sitting VP)
1992: GHW Bush (re-election)
1996: Dole (senior Senator, majority leader, lost in 1988)
2000: GW Bush (went against the rule)
2004: GW Bush (re-election)
2008: McCain (senior Senator, lost in 2000)
2012: Romney (lost in 2008)
It’s why I said from the beginning that it was Romney’s nomination to lose (the only other person in the race who could claim “it’s my turn” was Gingrich). I’d put Huckabee and Santorum as the potential frontrunners for 2016, maybe Huntsman. One of those three won’t run and one will probably win the nomination.
ME: Digya hear Morning joke is gonna run for president?
Friend: Of which country?
ME: Of the United States
Friend: Of America?
I predict a campaign that will resemble a combination of Rick Perry/Donald Birther Trump/That 9-9-9- Cain dude.
@Culture of Truth: I don’t care enough to suffer through reading the article, but my first thought on reading that quote is to wonder how long it will be before the truth comes out that Romney was nowhere in the vicinity.
What’s with Mika and the table? Is she what’s for dinner? Couldn’t they find her a pole?
Hope someone throws a toaster in while he’s testing those waters.
Culture of Truth
He’s not serious, of course, but he does know that in our media environment just running is a ticket to even more fame and riches.
Christ almighty. I got nothing else.
How is he less qualified than Romney or Ryan? Everyone is more qualified than the guys who lose.
I had the same reaction when I saw the photo earlier today. Then I remembered she had written a book about women valuing themselves or something. Looked it up and the title is “knowing Your Value: Women and Getting What You’re Worth”. You just can’t make this stuff up.
Joe has the perfect face for punching. So smug.
Culture of Truth
@Redshift: Oh he was there. He was fleeing Washington DC for dear life when he happened to pass within a mile of the Pentagon. That I do believe.
@KG: Any time your theory says that Goldwater was “next in line,” when he was actually one of the all-time insurgent candidates, you need to do some rethinking.
Damn, DougJ, nice O’Neill reference in the title.
@Southern Beale: You linked to one of your older posts by mistake.
Screwed up 2nd half of the title: Money and Getting What You’re Worth.
I agree with the general “next in line/it’s my turn” setup for Republicans, but as you noted there are occasionally exceptions and in the current hyper anti-establishment mood, they might also be tempted to make an exception again and pick a relative unknown or junior person that can be the “grassroots” candidate – just throwing that out there.
(Of course, such a candidate might have a lot more trouble than the “next in line” guy getting that Unlimited Corporate Cash thing, so maybe not).
@Steve: fair enough, Goldwater probably belongs in the exception category.
Kathy in St. Louis
Joe doesn’t seem to realize that every thought, good or bad, that he has had for the all the years that his show has been on are recorded somewhere, and that the purists of the Crazy Party will just pull out any and every comment he’s ever made that wasn’t to their liking. He’s in deep shit territory before he even begins.
Sexy photo of a young Mika
Joe picks Harold Ford as VP
Scarborough/Ford: A Campaign and an auto dealership
No sex please, we’re country club Republicans (psst abortions out back behind the caddyshack)
We’re all about the cash….
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
They’re both native born citizens over the age of 35. If resumes made good presidents, we’d be arguing over whether Buchanan, Nixon or Poppy Bush were our greatest president.
@Culture of Truth: and there’s that, the Palin tease strategy to raise the profile and earning potential.
Y’know Mika was an actual journalist once.
Ed in NJ
And now he’s being weaselly about not intending to make this a political issue, just wanted his father to vote.
Well, you know what, it is a political issue, and he just proved one side is wrong. If he had any sense of fairness or moral character, he would use his influence to ensure that ALL qualified voters maintained that right.
@Spaghetti Lee: I don’t know about that. After Sunday night against the Broncos, that strategy might actually backfire and get you placed on a “provisional ballot only” list. ;-)
@Ed in NJ: EXACTLY. Cramer seems wholly satisfied with the result, judging by his Twitter feed.
I think Goldwater’s more of an exception than George W. Bush, actually – Bush belonged to one of the wealthiest political families in the nation and was the son of a former president whose ideology was in line with the party leadership’s.
Otherwise I think I agree with all your examples.
Kathy in St. Louis
@KG: Barry Goldwater, not so much, and I was around to remember that campaign. He was too far to the right for the GOP at that time and was a long shot. His campaign slogan was, “In your heart, you know he’s right”. Some people added, “But in your guts, you know he’s nuts.”
@Chris: possibly, I just don’t see who it could be
@Culture of Truth:
That smell was probably his magically soiled underoos.
@Southern Beale: That link is from February….is there something more recent?
Isn’t this the woman who wrote a book with the title “Knowing Your Value: Women, Money and Getting What You’re Worth”?
So her value is as a sex kitten/vamp? WTF? Cmon Mika, seriously?
Huntsman works for a well known liberal think tank now (urban/cosmopolitan liberal style aka can’t we all just get along on social issues and cut social security) not a chance in hell he can get the nomination now unless the Republicans change majorly. In the same vein Joe works for a liberal cable channel (which is just as much of a joke as a liberal think tank most of the time), no way in hell he can get the nomination either.
IMHO 2016 will be a blood feud between the social conservatives and libertarians each claiming that Romney wasn’t conservative enough and thus couldn’t bring out the base… and they are correct there.
I think the Obama administration can manipulate who the right picks in 2016. The mess of Iraq and the killing of Bin Laden has rendered the republican foreign policy types toothless, they have little control now. I’m tempted to say if we don’t tangle it up with Iran, start winding down the drug war, and legalize gay marriage the right will nominate a world class bible thumper. The economy will have turned around and social issues will be all they have.
If Joe Scarborough thinks he’s going to be able to secure a GOP nomination for POTUS, he’s a bigger idiot than I thought he was, and that’s a pretty high bar to move.
The GOP and its current participants are teetering on the edge of comic psychosis. Their entire plan consists of, and only of, repeatedly firing Bugs Bunny out of a cannon. Poor Wabbit.
@Chris: I tend to consider W an exception because pretty much everyone else ran and lost or was a VP first. W was a one and a half term governor from a state that doesn’t have a strong executive with a name everyone knew. I think McCain was closer to being the next in line in 2000, but 2000 was kind of an outlier for the GOP nomination process.
@KG: I dunno. I don’t think that what has come before is a good guide for the next few years of the Republican party.
We are off the edge of the map.
@Chris: The voices of millions of wingnuts cry out, “Sarah! Save us!”
Joe wouldn’t pass the presidential “3 AM Phone Call Test”. At that hour he’d probably be in a cell phone dead zone while commuting to his day job.
@joes527: true, of course, we’re all just pissing in the wind until we know who is actually running for 2016.
@KG: Almost certainly Huck. Way too early, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Santorum will be too moderate and yesterday’s news. Huntsman will be a speaker at the DNC by 2016.
Must say I disagree with many of the comments. Not everybody who runs for President expects to win. For Scarborough it’s “how can I, like Pat Robertson, Newt, and Santorum, push things toward the right?”
I think Bush should address the surname issue head-on. Everybody’s got a dim-witted brother, uncle, or brother-in-law. He should say how unfair it is that people should reject him because his brother is an idiot.
But if Jeb doesn’t run, I’m not sure there are a lot of people available who would clearly be a stronger candidate than Scarborough. He can hold his own in a Republican debate. He’s already got national name recognition. And if it’s him, Christie, Scott Walker, and Santorum on stage, he’d probably be the most likable one to the casual viewer.
Jeez Mika–isn’t it a bit tasteless to strike an erotic pose on a desk with a guy who was once accused of killing an intern by hitting her head on a desk?
Also, too, I imagine Morning Ho saw how Stephen Colbert’s run garnered a lot of media attention and thinks he could do the same thing. Morning Ho probably doesn’t realize Colbert is satire.
Would be SO FUN to watch him get shredded. Can you imagine that ego in a campaign? Running for President on the GOP side has become the swiftest way to infamy and defeat and shame. Palin, Gingrich, Santorum, Perry. Up next … Ryan.
@Lurking Canadian: She missed her sell-by date some time before the conventions.
(Note to self: please remember not to eat or drink whilst reading BJ comments).
@Chris: While I know some of them will run again, I can’t see any of the folks who ran this year making a show of it. We went through a five month period earlier this year where each and every candidate seemed to poll ahead of Romney at one time or another. At least I think Bachman, Cain, Santorum and Goodhair had their moments. All of these folks have the label “Couldn’t beat Romney”, and if Romney loses big, that will change to “couldn’t beat that loser, Romney.”
@Southern Beale: Not sure I see the connection – you have linked to your own blog post from feburary with a comment that implied this was something new?
What am I missing?
Well, somebody’s gotta run. But Christie and Rubio will have come of age by then.
Someone asked whether Romney (if loses in Nov.) would try another run.. Oh, Lordy. Not likely. The RW machine is already positioning him as THE reason the conservative ticket goes down in flames. Not their policies, or positions. It will ALL be Romney’s fault. He’ll be radioactive from then on.
The last two times a social-issues-only “Bible thumper” ran were Mike Huckabee in 2008 and Pat Robertson in 1988, and both lost to a “moderate” (in the Party’s view). My personal theory is that the religious right’s strength was always overrated, but I think if they combined the traditional SoCon issues with a strong anti-immigration platform (also an issue dear to the base but not a religious issue per se) their odds get much better.
The elites don’t like Huckabee because he’s occasionally said things implying that unrestrained capitalism isn’t always the best thing ever. The base doesn’t like him because they see him as soft on crime and soft on immigration. Don’t think he can make it.
I was at Book Expo America a few years ago when Mika was promoting a book. He was there right by her side as she signed copies like she couldn’t do this on her own. Spooky.
Many conservatives already feel he bought the election and was forced on them by the establishment, which is true to a certain extent. He was also the worst possible person they could have run due to Romney care and his saving grace was supposed to be “but moderates will vote for him”. Santorum even pointed out how stupid that was.
If Christie were smart he’d get Huckabee in to put him on a diet and teach him how to talk to the bible thumpers. He’s already got the rep as the no nonsense action guy (at least among people who would vote in a republican primary), so softening him up and trimming him down could win it.
This is great news for John McCain!
Only non-dead lobbyist lovers (maybe) in his closet.
Fixed your out-of-date link.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@MikeJ: Oh, the heartwarming stories and self-deprecating jokes such a plan would create for him; and his determination and discipline and journey of self-discovery would give Politico their hooks, and Mike Allen would just have to fill in the blanks
Jeb could never make a legitimate run for the White House. Because every-freaking-time the media would refer to him, it would include, “brother of former President George W. Bush”. I don’t think Dubya will ever reach the point where people find a way to look back on him fondly. He just screwed up too many things, too badly, to be forgiven.
I can only imagine the anger old Jeb feels toward Dubya. You know that he’s dreamed about being President for as long as he can remember, and that fricken idiot brother of his, has made it all but impossible.
@MikeJ: He needs to win reelection in Jersey first. He’s more media darling still. The base likes him because he won in 2009 and was lifted up as a sign that the party was reemerging. His speech at the convention “We have tough choices and I’m gonna make ’em.” is what he ran on in Jersey. I don’t know how that’s going to play nationally. I’m biased, but my impression of the pre-Obama Republican party was “We’ll pretend that there aren’t any tough choices. Wanna War? You got one. Wanna low taxes too, ya got that. Wanna drug benefit? You got it. Have to make a decision about your wife whose been on life support? We’ll make that for you!” There whole brand is bound up with certainty and easy choices.
Yeah. Legally change his name to Jeb Stewart. Go completely Confederate. That should do it.
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
I think the response to Obama’s books figured into the decision making process on whether to run. He sold a lot of books and made a lot of money on them.
Maybe publishing a book is a good way to run a trial balloon, so to speak. If the book falters, you can save yourself the trouble and expense of a campaign.
Cute title. :-)
Like I said yesterday – I think the main advantage of Christie is that he can appeal to the base (via his image as an abrasive bully who pushes liberal constituencies into lockers and then brags and laughs about it on TV) and to the elites (being an East Coaster who’s appointed a couple Muslims before and the MSM can therefore sell him as a “moderate”) both, which is rare in these days and pretty important too. Maybe I’m overestimating him.
The Moar You Know
Nailed on the first post, but yeah, dead intern.
The dead intern in your office isn’t going away, Joe.
Morning Joke = Drew Peterson
I always thought Rosalind Russell was wrong for that part.
On the other hand, Joe has his well-known popularity in the role of Chandler on Friends going for him.
Shawn in ShowMe
So was Geraldo Rivera. The Invisible Hand of the Free Market works in mysterious ways.
The Moar You Know
@mai naem: The medical examiner did say that, it is true.
Without conducting an autopsy.
One lousy commute and I miss this until there’s over a hundred comments.
Boys and girls, curmudgeons all, the FSM doesn’t love us that much.
@Culture of Truth:
Fame & riches, you say?
I would like to hereby announce that I am running for the President of the United States.
My first thought was that his dead staffer will be an albatross – no matter the truth of the event.
@Narcissus: He’s not alone in that.
@Emma: that’s okay, Emma. We still read your comment. :)
I am soo late to this but that describes Mika to perfection.
She was a 28 year old marathon runner
hardly a candidate for a coronary.
Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn
If Joe can’t talk to Rachel Maddow without stomping away like a baby, how’s he gonna handle our #1 geopolitical enemy, Zombie Leonid Brezhnev?
@trollhattan: I’ve always wondered why no one talks about casting Tim Russ as Barack Obama. Russ was Tuvok, also known as the preternaturally calm black guy with the strange ears. Probably no stranger than James Gandolfini as Christie.
Just Some Fuckhead
Wherein DougJ toots his own horn.. :)
Me, too. That bastard DougJ almost gave me a coronary.
I need to read Joe’s memoir to find out exactly why he feels he would be qualified to be Prez. Sounds delusional.
You have a better chance of winning the Powerball lottery than Joe Scarborough has of winning the Presidency.
@rlrr: Having just seen Springsteen at Wrigley on Friday, I am now crooning “Dead Intern in the Office!” to the tune of “Tenth Avenue Freeze-Out.
@Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn:
That was great.
Not only did he stomp away, he threw his microphone on the ground.
Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)
@The Lodger: Your logic is flawless, might I have access to your holo-novel?
@Warren Terra: Not to mention the ubiquitous “Joe” the Plumber.
@The Lodger: I totally agree. Tim Russ is a dead ringer for Obama.
When hell freezes over Joe. For reals. What a self important loser.