I wish I was sittin right under the X in taxes
right in the heart of where my heart should be. . .
3.
Baud
I can’t wait to see how Romney torpedoes his campaign next week.
4.
BGinCHI
I assume that tomorrow all the NFL games will observe a moment of silence for the death of the Romney campaign.
5.
dmsilev
@Baud: It’s the hot new fall TV series, and we’re all eagerly awaiting the next episode.
Probably won’t be renewed for a second season though.
6.
Villago Delenda Est
Next week, he embraces his time at Bain, and then we find out that they offshored jobs, or that they got government loan guarantees for their leveraging, or that they looted pension funds in order to pay for dancing horses.
Oh, wait, we already know those things.
OK, I got nothin’.
7.
dmsilev
@BGinCHI: Didn’t our UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH troll promise us that SuperPACs would swamp NFL broadcasts with anti-Obama ads and that would mean VICTORY!?
I feel so …betrayed.
8.
wmd
Death. obvious choice when taxes are verboten.
seriously, wonderful friend, candidate for Monroe county council Sophia Travis died this week. she had been on the council before and did a good job keeping county spending cuts from causing too much pain.
I’m concerned for her young son Finn and husband Greg. I think there’s a chance that Greg will move from Indiana, he’s been working in California a lot lately.
9.
dmsilev
@Villago Delenda Est: I’ll go with “announce he’s converting to Scientology”.
10.
arguingwithsignposts
I realize it’s a site design thing, but I think it would be helpful to see the timestamp on the front page.
11.
BGinCHI
@dmsilev: I thought ads for Bud Light were anti-Obama ads.
Or Coors. Nothing says Mitt Romney like that tasteless, watered down, right wing crap.
The doctors prescribing the drugs don’t know they don’t do what they’re meant to. Nor do their patients. The manufacturers know full well, but they’re not telling.
edited extract from Bad Pharma, by Ben Goldacre and fun (quote-unquote) for the stats and regulation inclined. Will get your heart pumping into the danger zone.
Oh, he’s updating his cult from a 19th century cavalcade of crazy to a 20th century cavalcade of crazy?
Well, I guess that is progress of a sort…
14.
Steeplejack
Equinox coming up at 10:49. Let us know if you feel the earth move.
15.
BGinCHI
@arguingwithsignposts: Second this. Cole probably doesn’t want his mom to know how late he’s staying up.
16.
arguingwithsignposts
ETA, by time stamp, I mean the actual time of the post – not the date. And yes, I also realize it’s in the full post.
And as long as I’m discussing it, someone needs to tell Horrendously Long Name So Long That The Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore Mumphryhagenschloss Whatever that his name curb-stomps all over his witty comments on the mobile site.
Marco Rubio is doing Romney ads here in Florida saying how Romney and Ryan will save Medicare. It’s a great ad buy for the senior set in Florida, but it’s ironic because m’hijo voted for the Ryan plan to kill Medicare…
It must be galling to be relegated to doing local ads for Romney… “That coulda been me on the ticket…”
@Villago Delenda Est:
Next week, he brags about buying Stericycle and uses it as proof of his pro-choice bona fides, while at the same time saying he supports overturning Roe v. Wade.
Cole is a doofus. His mom is more than smart enough to figure out, from the time stamp on the first comment in the thread, roughly when the front pager posted it.
Well, that does have the virtue of getting everyone to focus on something other than taxes and the economy.
Oh, wait…wasn’t this election supposed to be about the economy, stupid?
27.
Nancy Darling
Josh Marshall discovers that the guy who made the latest birther movie, “Dreams from My Real Father” is a Bob Dylan fanatic and has produced a lot of films about his idol.
I admit that I’m jealous. If I made $14 million a year without working, I’d spend my time organizing research into some world-changing invention that would fix our energy problems or revolutionize medicine or whatever. Not losing a race for president. And I still haven’t figured out if Romney has a reason for wanting to become president other than raw ambition. I wonder if anybody in the country knows.
29.
waratah
I happened to catch Pierce on Up this morning, I am a big fan of his but not so much today,
He was discussing the debate and seemed disappointed that Scott Brown acted like the pig Republican he is. He seemed to promise that he would fix that in the coming debates.
Sorry this is coming from a woman’s perspective, also Chris did not ask any of the two women to contribute so all we got was the sorry where did the nice guy macho man go.
30.
marv
@BGinCHI:
keeping an open mind, but I’m guessing the oatmeal
Autumn’s arrival in South Florida means a couple of more weeks of steamy humid weather until they flip the switch to The Dry Season and we start the countdown to the arrival of the first snowbirds.
32.
BGinCHI
@waratah: I thought Pierce’s read on that debate was pretty pedestrian, to be charitable (the one he did on the blog). He seemed to want Warren to win by attacking Brown more directly, and that’s tempting to endorse. But then again, it was her first debate and I think holding fire is smart right now when Brown looks so flustered and ready to sink his own ship.
33.
Ding dong
@waratah: could be cuz the guy was the only repub who was on the panel and he had written about warren and pierce was on specifically for warren.
Romney doesn’t lose well. Will he just retreat off the field and leave it to Rovian Jim Crow, Waukesha Republican scavenger hunts and Diebold mathmatics to prevent a whooping Obama mandate?
Any bets on when Romney goes on vacation? November 1st or 6th? or even earlier?
Didn’t our UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH troll promise us that SuperPACs would swamp NFL broadcasts with anti-Obama ads and that would mean VICTORY!?
I’ve been seeing an article here and there (sorry, can’t find it at the moment, I’ll have to look for it again) about how the SuperPACs may be raking in all this money but due to lack of oversight no one really knows how all that money is being spent. For all the billionaires know, the Super PAC money is going straight into Karl Rove’s pockets and little if none towards anti-Obama ads.
Wouldn’t be ironic that the Citizens United ruling proves that regulating the campaigns is needed to protect the donors and not the unwashed heathens in the voting booths?
After all, Karl Rove and Dick Armey and most of these other Republican fund-raisers are just con artists selling weak tea. And what do con artists do with suckers’ money…?
If this is an open thread, may I hawk some My Vote My Power t-shirts to promote voter rights?
39.
Gian
the nfl is locking out the refs, and the nhl is locking out the players and by extension the ticket takers and concessions people
and the NBA just finished locking out players last year.
and the NFL locked players out too…
I’m of a mind to pretty much say fuck off to professional sports
their ownership is doing the same thing to their workers that Bain and Romney did to theirs.
40.
waratah
@BGinCHI: I think she was very nervous, and if her advisor’s let Elizabeth be Elizabeth and do it in her way she can win in debate. I have seen her take down Joe on Morning Joe. You might think that is not much but Brown is just like him.
Autumn’s arrival in South Florida means a couple of more weeks of steamy humid weather until they flip the switch to The Dry Season and we start the countdown to the arrival of the first snowbirds.
There’s been a 16 percent increase in car accidents here in West Pasco county alone. The snowbirds are already here…
42.
marv
@Steeplejack:
Sorry I missed (and thus repeated) your equinox alert. Now I feel stupid: familiar territory.
Oh, wait…wasn’t this election supposed to be about the economy, stupid?
It was going to be about the economy until the Republicans realized that the voters blame them for the bad economy at least as much as they blame Obama. Hint to the Republicans: your secret plan to tank the economy and stick Obama with the blame would have worked better if you hadn’t bragged about it quite so openly.
44.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@BGinCHI: the fifteenth or sixteenth Coors is running for Congress in CO. I don’t think any of them have ever won elected office, though they’ve probably done more to affect actual policy through the fucking Heritatge Foundation than they ever could in the House or the Senate. This one started his own non-beer related company and like Romney, figures that means he’s a “self-made man”
the nfl is locking out the refs, and the nhl is locking out the players and by extension the ticket takers and concessions people
and the NBA just finished locking out players last year.
and the NFL locked players out too…I’m of a mind to pretty much say fuck off to professional sports… their ownership is doing the same thing to their workers that Bain and Romney did to theirs.
Serious suggestion to the NHL players: start up a Kickstarter fund-raiser to form your own hockey league, sans owners sans puppet commissioner, with fans as the stock-holders a’la Green Bay. Playbook rules already exist, it’d be a question then of finding available hockey arenas (up north, there ought to be a good number of college and minor league arenas you can rent out). If you can get eight teams up and running before January 2013, you should be able to find a willing tv contract deal to help with costs and scare the crap out of the NHL owners with a solid rival league.
If you wanna say “Screw the billionaire owners” you gotta be willing to take the risk and work without them.
OCCUPY HOCKEY.
48.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@waratah: I don’t see much of Scarborough, and I don’t live in MA, so most of what I see of both is internet clips, but my impression is that Scarborough is smarter and nastier than Brown. What I saw/heard of the debate, of Brown trying to choke that Faux-cohantas chicken, he reminded me of Pawlenty, an amiable dunce trying to be a tough guy and finding it hard to maintain. What Pierce said about his almost random shout-outs to “union guys”, it seemed like he was two clicks away from saying “Resentful white guys! Vote for me!”
Cole probably doesn’t want his mom to know how late he’s staying up.
I think it’s more like Cole knows that every time they go to put what seems like they should be minor changes into the site, the whole FYWP blog software blows up into tiny pieces, there’s a shitstorm of bitching in the comment threads and, he gets a metric shitton of e-mail in his inbox of complaints. And then he spends a couple of weeks to a month dealing with the fallout.
I can see why he’d be leery of changing the design on the site, given the history of this place…
I wish this story got more play, but it seems to have gotten lost in all the stories about the 47% and Rmoney’s taxes. The supposed money bomb that Rmoney was going to lay down in September and October was a smokescreen. All accounting tricks, designed to make his fundraising look better than it was. The campaign actually has significantly less on hand than the Obama campaign and much of the money is going to GOTV, not ad buys.
No problem. It’s the nature of bloggery. You read down the thread and comment, then you read farther and see that six other people made your same point. It happens to me all the time.
@Gian:
Well, MLB is coming up on two decades of peace with their players, and they seem to be doing OK with their umpires and ticket takers these days, too. Maybe you’re just watching the wrong sport.
I’ve been thinking this way, too, and it makes so much sense. All that money looking around for a conduit. How many consultants, operatives, experts, local, state, and federal, must have come out of the woodwork to hoover up that money. From what I read, local teevee stations in selected areas are drowning in money. Probably radio too.
If Romney loses, if the Senate goes dem, and (fsm be praised) the House goes dem or gets close to parity, you can imagine that the lords of the manor will not be so willing to bankroll things next go-round.
how the SuperPACs may be raking in all this money but due to lack of oversight no one really knows how all that money is being spent. For all the billionaires know, the Super PAC money is going straight into Karl Rove’s pockets and little if none towards anti-Obama ads.
So you’re telling me that if hand over wads of cash to known grifters, and work my ass off to make sure that there’s next to no legal oversight over how those funds are used, that they might do something as gauche as pocket it without doing what I wanted them to do?
I think I’m shocked – shocked – by this outrageous allegation! Aren’t grifters and con artists honorable men? Surely anyone who knows Karl Rove would know that anything he tells you can be completely trusted, right?
For all the billionaires know, the Super PAC money is going straight into Karl Rove’s pockets and little if none towards anti-Obama ads.
Always the plan amigo. The R side has been nothing but The Big Grift from start to finish. It’s a beautiful way to wind down a career.
57.
BGinCHI
@waratah: I think there are 5 debates…so there’s time. Too early to panic. She’s good at this and will find her stride. Brown is shitting his pants: he’s out of ideas and he can’t say Romney’s name.
I thought Pierce’s read on that debate was pretty pedestrian, to be charitable (the one he did on the blog). He seemed to want Warren to win by attacking Brown more directly, and that’s tempting to endorse.
I think Pierce wants an attack dog because he wants someone to chew on Scott Brown’s leg until he begs for mercy.
Looking over the debate clips (not an MA voter myself, just curious) it looks to me like the plan was for Warren to look Senatorial. I think that worked for the most part(to me anyway – maybe the voters in MA will see it differently).
I don’t know if Warren’s people knew that Scott Brown’s plan was for Brown to look like a douchebag though. I mean, maybe somehow the Warren people have figured out how to get under his skin and force him to release his inner douchebag-ness for the world to see, but I seem to recall that 6 years ago his image was more “aw shucks” and less total screaming asshole.
If Romney loses, if the Senate goes dem, and (fsm be praised) the House goes dem or gets close to parity, you can imagine that the lords of the manor will not be so willing to bankroll things next go-round.
If the Democrats control the White House and Congress (and that includes actually being able to get bills through the Senate, not just having a nominal majority) you can expect something like the DISCLOSE act to get passed in relatively short order. Tightening up the rules on 501(c )(4) groups might also pass. Both of those things are likely to make Unlimited Corporate CASH a less attractive way of trying to influence elections.
Which means it is 2 decaades since I decided to ignore and boycott sports, professional and collegiate. Except for the Olympics every 2 years. I used to watch the occasional pro football game but all the brain damage stuff makes me feel too ooky to enjoy that anymore.
Books and movies are where its at. Which is pretty much my plan for the weekend. I had a 5 day training class this week (criminal procedure) that was basically a giant info dump and my brain is still digesting. I plan to watch some Netflix, read some fluff, play with the dogs, watch the chickens and drink some beer. Gotta go back to reaal work tomorrow at midnight. Actually looking forward to it.
That’s certainly plausible, but two things would have happen first:
1. The money guys would have to become much more politically savvy than they are now. Money, as we see, is not the end-all of the process, and Karl Rove is not as helpful as they’d like;
2. The money guys would have to come up with some policies that are palatable to the American electorate. As far as I can tell, most of those guys have no democratic (in the philosophical sense) policies at all. Their entire goal is to suck America dry and then move. Or something. As we saw with Ryan and the AARP yesterday, that kind of Randian proposal is just not popular.
And that steep hill is one I hope they choose to die on.
76.
catclub
@Ed in NJ: GOTV spending is actually intelligent. Hearing that Romney is doing it suggests someone on the Romney campaign may have half a brain after all.
@PaulW:
“…due to lack of oversight no one really knows how all that money is being spent” (or if it is being spent)
Republican actions are meant to redistribute money among the Republican “chosen class”. A giant money laundering scheme that benefits only the chosen.
Just like the Iraqi War…
Authoritarian assholes are authoritarian assholes. Nothing new there.
The irony here, which I’m sure very few of Joseph Smith’s followers will ever grasp, is that if this country did not have separation of Church and State, their little cult would have been ruthlessly crushed as heresy long ago.
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maya
OK then. Texas.
raven
I wish I was sittin right under the X in taxes
right in the heart of where my heart should be. . .
Baud
I can’t wait to see how Romney torpedoes his campaign next week.
BGinCHI
I assume that tomorrow all the NFL games will observe a moment of silence for the death of the Romney campaign.
dmsilev
@Baud: It’s the hot new fall TV series, and we’re all eagerly awaiting the next episode.
Probably won’t be renewed for a second season though.
Villago Delenda Est
Next week, he embraces his time at Bain, and then we find out that they offshored jobs, or that they got government loan guarantees for their leveraging, or that they looted pension funds in order to pay for dancing horses.
Oh, wait, we already know those things.
OK, I got nothin’.
dmsilev
@BGinCHI: Didn’t our UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH troll promise us that SuperPACs would swamp NFL broadcasts with anti-Obama ads and that would mean VICTORY!?
I feel so …betrayed.
wmd
Death. obvious choice when taxes are verboten.
seriously, wonderful friend, candidate for Monroe county council Sophia Travis died this week. she had been on the council before and did a good job keeping county spending cuts from causing too much pain.
I’m concerned for her young son Finn and husband Greg. I think there’s a chance that Greg will move from Indiana, he’s been working in California a lot lately.
dmsilev
@Villago Delenda Est: I’ll go with “announce he’s converting to Scientology”.
arguingwithsignposts
I realize it’s a site design thing, but I think it would be helpful to see the timestamp on the front page.
BGinCHI
@dmsilev: I thought ads for Bud Light were anti-Obama ads.
Or Coors. Nothing says Mitt Romney like that tasteless, watered down, right wing crap.
scav
How about a nice long spot of big pharma duplicity and engangering patients? Not Taxes/Texas, but RX?
The drugs don’t work: a modern medical scandal
edited extract from Bad Pharma, by Ben Goldacre and fun (quote-unquote) for the stats and regulation inclined. Will get your heart pumping into the danger zone.
Villago Delenda Est
@dmsilev:
Oh, he’s updating his cult from a 19th century cavalcade of crazy to a 20th century cavalcade of crazy?
Well, I guess that is progress of a sort…
Steeplejack
Equinox coming up at 10:49. Let us know if you feel the earth move.
BGinCHI
@arguingwithsignposts: Second this. Cole probably doesn’t want his mom to know how late he’s staying up.
arguingwithsignposts
ETA, by time stamp, I mean the actual time of the post – not the date. And yes, I also realize it’s in the full post.
And as long as I’m discussing it, someone needs to tell Horrendously Long Name So Long That The Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore Mumphryhagenschloss Whatever that his name curb-stomps all over his witty comments on the mobile site.
(FYWP wouldn’t let me edit my comment)
BGinCHI
@arguingwithsignposts: It was never funny.
arguingwithsignposts
@BGinCHI: I was being polite.
marv
equinox in two minutes – happy fall everyone:
and now with treble soft
The red-breast whistles from a garden croft;
And gathering swallows twitter in the skies
Mustang Bobby
Marco Rubio is doing Romney ads here in Florida saying how Romney and Ryan will save Medicare. It’s a great ad buy for the senior set in Florida, but it’s ironic because m’hijo voted for the Ryan plan to kill Medicare…
It must be galling to be relegated to doing local ads for Romney… “That coulda been me on the ticket…”
BGinCHI
@marv: I felt something move.
Maybe the oatmeal I had?
redshirt
Winter is coming….
Villago Delenda Est
@Steeplejack:
The sunny weather of summer was replaced, instantly, by a screaming autumnal gale with rain coming down like cats and dogs.
Amazing how that happens, really.
Roger Moore
@Villago Delenda Est:
Next week, he brags about buying Stericycle and uses it as proof of his pro-choice bona fides, while at the same time saying he supports overturning Roe v. Wade.
Villago Delenda Est
@BGinCHI:
Cole is a doofus. His mom is more than smart enough to figure out, from the time stamp on the first comment in the thread, roughly when the front pager posted it.
Villago Delenda Est
@Roger Moore:
Well, that does have the virtue of getting everyone to focus on something other than taxes and the economy.
Oh, wait…wasn’t this election supposed to be about the economy, stupid?
Nancy Darling
Josh Marshall discovers that the guy who made the latest birther movie, “Dreams from My Real Father” is a Bob Dylan fanatic and has produced a lot of films about his idol.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/09/dylanology_the_birther_conspiracy.php
Pavonis
Wapo: Romney made $14 million/year while unemployed.
I admit that I’m jealous. If I made $14 million a year without working, I’d spend my time organizing research into some world-changing invention that would fix our energy problems or revolutionize medicine or whatever. Not losing a race for president. And I still haven’t figured out if Romney has a reason for wanting to become president other than raw ambition. I wonder if anybody in the country knows.
waratah
I happened to catch Pierce on Up this morning, I am a big fan of his but not so much today,
He was discussing the debate and seemed disappointed that Scott Brown acted like the pig Republican he is. He seemed to promise that he would fix that in the coming debates.
Sorry this is coming from a woman’s perspective, also Chris did not ask any of the two women to contribute so all we got was the sorry where did the nice guy macho man go.
marv
@BGinCHI:
keeping an open mind, but I’m guessing the oatmeal
Mustang Bobby
Autumn’s arrival in South Florida means a couple of more weeks of steamy humid weather until they flip the switch to The Dry Season and we start the countdown to the arrival of the first snowbirds.
BGinCHI
@waratah: I thought Pierce’s read on that debate was pretty pedestrian, to be charitable (the one he did on the blog). He seemed to want Warren to win by attacking Brown more directly, and that’s tempting to endorse. But then again, it was her first debate and I think holding fire is smart right now when Brown looks so flustered and ready to sink his own ship.
Ding dong
@waratah: could be cuz the guy was the only repub who was on the panel and he had written about warren and pierce was on specifically for warren.
Palli
Romney doesn’t lose well. Will he just retreat off the field and leave it to Rovian Jim Crow, Waukesha Republican scavenger hunts and Diebold mathmatics to prevent a whooping Obama mandate?
Any bets on when Romney goes on vacation? November 1st or 6th? or even earlier?
General Stuck
Anything goes?
Yutsano
@Pavonis: Google White Horse Prophecy. Willard has been told since his BYU days that he has a special destiny, and by gawrsh, he’s gonna fulfill it!
Daddy issues. Also. Too.
PaulW
@dmsilev:
I’ve been seeing an article here and there (sorry, can’t find it at the moment, I’ll have to look for it again) about how the SuperPACs may be raking in all this money but due to lack of oversight no one really knows how all that money is being spent. For all the billionaires know, the Super PAC money is going straight into Karl Rove’s pockets and little if none towards anti-Obama ads.
Wouldn’t be ironic that the Citizens United ruling proves that regulating the campaigns is needed to protect the donors and not the unwashed heathens in the voting booths?
After all, Karl Rove and Dick Armey and most of these other Republican fund-raisers are just con artists selling weak tea. And what do con artists do with suckers’ money…?
PaulW
If this is an open thread, may I hawk some My Vote My Power t-shirts to promote voter rights?
Gian
the nfl is locking out the refs, and the nhl is locking out the players and by extension the ticket takers and concessions people
and the NBA just finished locking out players last year.
and the NFL locked players out too…
I’m of a mind to pretty much say fuck off to professional sports
their ownership is doing the same thing to their workers that Bain and Romney did to theirs.
waratah
@BGinCHI: I think she was very nervous, and if her advisor’s let Elizabeth be Elizabeth and do it in her way she can win in debate. I have seen her take down Joe on Morning Joe. You might think that is not much but Brown is just like him.
PaulW
@Mustang Bobby:
There’s been a 16 percent increase in car accidents here in West Pasco county alone. The snowbirds are already here…
marv
@Steeplejack:
Sorry I missed (and thus repeated) your equinox alert. Now I feel stupid: familiar territory.
Roger Moore
@Villago Delenda Est:
It was going to be about the economy until the Republicans realized that the voters blame them for the bad economy at least as much as they blame Obama. Hint to the Republicans: your secret plan to tank the economy and stick Obama with the blame would have worked better if you hadn’t bragged about it quite so openly.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@BGinCHI: the fifteenth or sixteenth Coors is running for Congress in CO. I don’t think any of them have ever won elected office, though they’ve probably done more to affect actual policy through the fucking Heritatge Foundation than they ever could in the House or the Senate. This one started his own non-beer related company and like Romney, figures that means he’s a “self-made man”
Villago Delenda Est
@General Stuck:
Anything goes!
BGinCHI
@PaulW:
Protect our Freedoms?
PaulW
@Gian:
Serious suggestion to the NHL players: start up a Kickstarter fund-raiser to form your own hockey league, sans owners sans puppet commissioner, with fans as the stock-holders a’la Green Bay. Playbook rules already exist, it’d be a question then of finding available hockey arenas (up north, there ought to be a good number of college and minor league arenas you can rent out). If you can get eight teams up and running before January 2013, you should be able to find a willing tv contract deal to help with costs and scare the crap out of the NHL owners with a solid rival league.
If you wanna say “Screw the billionaire owners” you gotta be willing to take the risk and work without them.
OCCUPY HOCKEY.
Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker
@waratah: I don’t see much of Scarborough, and I don’t live in MA, so most of what I see of both is internet clips, but my impression is that Scarborough is smarter and nastier than Brown. What I saw/heard of the debate, of Brown trying to choke that Faux-cohantas chicken, he reminded me of Pawlenty, an amiable dunce trying to be a tough guy and finding it hard to maintain. What Pierce said about his almost random shout-outs to “union guys”, it seemed like he was two clicks away from saying “Resentful white guys! Vote for me!”
NonyNony
@BGinCHI:
I think it’s more like Cole knows that every time they go to put what seems like they should be minor changes into the site, the whole FYWP blog software blows up into tiny pieces, there’s a shitstorm of bitching in the comment threads and, he gets a metric shitton of e-mail in his inbox of complaints. And then he spends a couple of weeks to a month dealing with the fallout.
I can see why he’d be leery of changing the design on the site, given the history of this place…
Ed in NJ
@dmsilev:
I wish this story got more play, but it seems to have gotten lost in all the stories about the 47% and Rmoney’s taxes. The supposed money bomb that Rmoney was going to lay down in September and October was a smokescreen. All accounting tricks, designed to make his fundraising look better than it was. The campaign actually has significantly less on hand than the Obama campaign and much of the money is going to GOTV, not ad buys.
Steeplejack
@marv:
No problem. It’s the nature of bloggery. You read down the thread and comment, then you read farther and see that six other people made your same point. It happens to me all the time.
PaulW
@BGinCHI:
Sigh. Hey, BGinCHI, you at all interested in owning this bridge in Brooklyn…?
Roger Moore
@Gian:
Well, MLB is coming up on two decades of peace with their players, and they seem to be doing OK with their umpires and ticket takers these days, too. Maybe you’re just watching the wrong sport.
22over7
@PaulW:
I’ve been thinking this way, too, and it makes so much sense. All that money looking around for a conduit. How many consultants, operatives, experts, local, state, and federal, must have come out of the woodwork to hoover up that money. From what I read, local teevee stations in selected areas are drowning in money. Probably radio too.
If Romney loses, if the Senate goes dem, and (fsm be praised) the House goes dem or gets close to parity, you can imagine that the lords of the manor will not be so willing to bankroll things next go-round.
NonyNony
@PaulW:
So you’re telling me that if hand over wads of cash to known grifters, and work my ass off to make sure that there’s next to no legal oversight over how those funds are used, that they might do something as gauche as pocket it without doing what I wanted them to do?
I think I’m shocked – shocked – by this outrageous allegation! Aren’t grifters and con artists honorable men? Surely anyone who knows Karl Rove would know that anything he tells you can be completely trusted, right?
Corner Stone
@PaulW:
Always the plan amigo. The R side has been nothing but The Big Grift from start to finish. It’s a beautiful way to wind down a career.
BGinCHI
@waratah: I think there are 5 debates…so there’s time. Too early to panic. She’s good at this and will find her stride. Brown is shitting his pants: he’s out of ideas and he can’t say Romney’s name.
BGinCHI
@Jim, Foolish Literalist and Fact Checker: Koors Klan for Kongress.
Corner Stone
@redshirt:
That can’t be right. I was told repeatedly that, “After Arab Spring, Americans Fall”.
Yutsano
@BGinCHI:
Maybe he can’t, but she can, and I bet she will early and often.
NonyNony
@BGinCHI:
I think Pierce wants an attack dog because he wants someone to chew on Scott Brown’s leg until he begs for mercy.
Looking over the debate clips (not an MA voter myself, just curious) it looks to me like the plan was for Warren to look Senatorial. I think that worked for the most part(to me anyway – maybe the voters in MA will see it differently).
I don’t know if Warren’s people knew that Scott Brown’s plan was for Brown to look like a douchebag though. I mean, maybe somehow the Warren people have figured out how to get under his skin and force him to release his inner douchebag-ness for the world to see, but I seem to recall that 6 years ago his image was more “aw shucks” and less total screaming asshole.
Omnes Omnibus
@General Stuck: Of course anything goes.
Yutsano
@NonyNony:
Two years ago. Six years ago we (luckily) still had Ted.
BGinCHI
@PaulW: What color is it?
I was joking, ace. Your points were well-taken.
Villago Delenda Est
@NonyNony:
I’m sure such a thought never crossed their minds.
Say, I’ve got this island with the most dazzling beaches you’ve ever seen right off the coast of Outer Mongolia. Interested?
Roger Moore
@22over7:
If the Democrats control the White House and Congress (and that includes actually being able to get bills through the Senate, not just having a nominal majority) you can expect something like the DISCLOSE act to get passed in relatively short order. Tightening up the rules on 501(c )(4) groups might also pass. Both of those things are likely to make Unlimited Corporate CASH a less attractive way of trying to influence elections.
Elmo
@Gian:
Giggle. I couldn’t help reading your post to the tune of “National Brotherhood Week” by the immortal Tom Lehrer.
Oh the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants.
And the Hindus hate the Muslims, and –
Everybody hates the Jews.
Omnes Omnibus
@NonyNony: Likely story. I am going with the mom theory.
arguingwithsignposts
@PaulW: I would imagine they’re too busy trying to play. I hear a lot of them are looking for contracts in other leagues right now.
BGinCHI
@22over7: Or, they’ll get involved earlier and deeper and not let the Tea Party fucks nominate and dominate right up until the end.
If they want to have more control they’re gonna have to take the GOP back from their own base.
Then the wingtards can break off and start a 3rd party. And sink into electoral nothingness.
Omnes Omnibus
@Corner Stone: You believed ‘toko?
Roger Moore
@Omnes Omnibus:
He didn’t say he believed her, just that he had been repeatedly told that.
cmm
@Roger Moore:
Which means it is 2 decaades since I decided to ignore and boycott sports, professional and collegiate. Except for the Olympics every 2 years. I used to watch the occasional pro football game but all the brain damage stuff makes me feel too ooky to enjoy that anymore.
Books and movies are where its at. Which is pretty much my plan for the weekend. I had a 5 day training class this week (criminal procedure) that was basically a giant info dump and my brain is still digesting. I plan to watch some Netflix, read some fluff, play with the dogs, watch the chickens and drink some beer. Gotta go back to reaal work tomorrow at midnight. Actually looking forward to it.
22over7
@BGinCHI:
That’s certainly plausible, but two things would have happen first:
1. The money guys would have to become much more politically savvy than they are now. Money, as we see, is not the end-all of the process, and Karl Rove is not as helpful as they’d like;
2. The money guys would have to come up with some policies that are palatable to the American electorate. As far as I can tell, most of those guys have no democratic (in the philosophical sense) policies at all. Their entire goal is to suck America dry and then move. Or something. As we saw with Ryan and the AARP yesterday, that kind of Randian proposal is just not popular.
BGinCHI
@22over7: Good points.
And that steep hill is one I hope they choose to die on.
catclub
@Ed in NJ: GOTV spending is actually intelligent. Hearing that Romney is doing it suggests someone on the Romney campaign may have half a brain after all.
Anoniminous
@BGinCHI:
That’s essentially what the GOP PTB did this year by shoving Romney down the bases’ throats with a lubricant of cash. And it hasn’t worked so well.
dmbeaster
Mormon Church considering excommunication of Romney critic
Pretty amazing and pretty un-American. Yeah, a church can do what it wants, but this puts it pretty far outside the mainstream.
Palli
@PaulW:
“…due to lack of oversight no one really knows how all that money is being spent” (or if it is being spent)
Republican actions are meant to redistribute money among the Republican “chosen class”. A giant money laundering scheme that benefits only the chosen.
Just like the Iraqi War…
Michael G
@Mustang Bobby:
If Rubio has any sense at all, his thoughts should be “there but for the grace of god…”
dance around in your bones
@Omnes Omnibus: Hours late, but OMG Monty Python was fu-fuc-fucking funny.
Well, still are.
kindness
Anyone buy an i-phone 5?
Villago Delenda Est
@dmbeaster:
Authoritarian assholes are authoritarian assholes. Nothing new there.
The irony here, which I’m sure very few of Joseph Smith’s followers will ever grasp, is that if this country did not have separation of Church and State, their little cult would have been ruthlessly crushed as heresy long ago.