Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

So many bastards, so little time.

Days Since JD Vance Insulted Women Across America: Zero

I know this must be bad for Joe Biden, I just don’t know how.

Republicans don’t want a speaker to lead them; they want a hostage.

Of course you can have champagne before noon. That’s why orange juice was invented.

Republicans firmly believe having an abortion is a very personal, very private decision between a woman and J.D. Vance.

We won’t go back.

Despite his magical powers, I don’t think Trump is thinking this through, to be honest.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Dear media: perhaps we ought to let Donald Trump speak for himself!

Someone should tell Republicans that violence is the last refuge of the incompetent, or possibly the first.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

I have other things to bitch about but those will have to wait.

with the Kraken taking a plea, the Cheese stands alone.

It’s a doggy dog world.

Thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege.

Russian mouthpiece, go fuck yourself.

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

Democrats are back in array!

How can republicans represent us when they don’t trust women?

Glad to see john eastman going through some things.

Technically true, but collectively nonsense

You don’t get rid of your umbrella while it’s still raining.

It’s all just conspiracy shit beamed down from the mothership.

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Packers v. Seahawks. Fun drinking game- drink every time the refs blow or miss a call. I’m still under the weather from whatever plague I have had for ten days (everyone around here has this crap, and it just lingers FOREVER), so I will not partake, but I would recommend having 911 on speed dial for those of you who do.

Also, tomorrow is the Mists of Pandaria release. I have alliance tunes on Sargeras, so I would prefer to go there, but I’ll let you all fight it out in the comments and decide where to go.

Update. DougJ here. Do you think that GMC ad song sounds exactly like the Itsy Bitsy Spider song? Especially the beginning of it.

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  3. 3.

    Laertes

    If you do Horde on Doomhammer, I’ll hook you up with the nicest bunch of people you could ever hope to meet. Bunch of them on your fancy East Coast time too.

  6. 6.

    Joel

    I’ll be watching…

    My fantasy scores, because the real product is just not worth watching.. That Raiders-Steelers game might have turned me off for good. We’ll see if I can keep my promise to myself this year.

  7. 7.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    Also, tomorrow is the Mists of Pandaria release. I have alliance tunes on Sargeras, so I would prefer to go there, but I’ll let you all fight it out in the comments and decide where to go.

    I’m going to assume that you’re referring to a sex act so vile it can’t be described.

  8. 8.

    Villago Delenda Est

    You have alliance TOONS, John. Tunes are what you pay ridiculous prices to buy at the Apple store.

    I haven’t got MoP yet, will let things settle down a bit before I take the plunge. It’s not as if something important (that is, flying in Azeroth) is part of this expansion.

  9. 9.

    The Dangerman

    I wonder what odds I could have gotten on New England, Pittsburgh, Denver, Detroit, and possibly Green Bay all starting 1-2?

  10. 10.

    Bago

    I’m normally not a size queen, but Mitt’s dad was at least 12 returns long, Obama’s is at least 10, but poor old mitt can only make 2.

    Sorry guy.

  11. 11.

    shoutingattherain

    This might be fun: every time the ref-scabs mis-spot the ball send John an email complaining about it. What could go wrong? =)

  12. 12.

    jl

    @rlrr:

    “No thanks, I’d rather not die from alcohol poisoning”

    I am not much of a fan of this American football, but last night even I could tell the refs stunk.

    Head trauma on the field and off. Fun times for all!

  13. 13.

    zattarra

    I also have been stricken with the plague. Currently in week 3. Now on steroids, anti-biotics and something that can only be described as a schedule narcotic version of NyQuil. It’s quite the cocktail.

  14. 14.

    Schlemizel

    @jl:
    After last night I didn’t think people here are allowed to say they don’t like American football on a football thread 8-{D.

    It would be nice to see the Packers lose mainly because their fans become unbearable when they win (as do a few other team but there are a lot of them around me). A little humiliation would do them good.

  15. 15.

    The Dangerman

    How very progressive of the Seahawks to contract out the Uniform design to a blind person!

    /traditionalist

  17. 17.

    Feudalism Now!

    Sargeras? I guess I could have a panda there.
    Is Bellichick going to get suspended for manhandling the scab ref? No flag, no foul.

  20. 20.

    Maude

    OT When Romney said the bit about the heart attack, he said states take care of it. Uh, oh. That means no federal health care and of course, a removal of Medicaid.
    The interviewer didn’t catch that and question him about it.
    This is like the Cheney, No doubt statement and Russert (sp) didn’t ask, who has no doubt.

  21. 21.

    cathyx

    Come on everybody:

    THE NFL IS OUR MODERN DAY GLADIATORS AND WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED AT PERFIDY AND INJURIES AND VIOLENCE.

  22. 22.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @Yutsano:

    Perhaps because they’re the most usual suspect for sports fashion atrocities?

    I give you the University of Oregon Uniform Nightmares as exhibit A.

  23. 23.

    ? Martin

    So tomorrow is when we’re supposed to all get together and blow pandas, or whatever it was you wanted us to do to the poor creature? I’m, er, busy digging a subway to Madagascar.

  25. 25.

    Schlemizel

    @Yutsano:
    Well Nike and the other manufacturers. They make a ton of money from jersey sales & all the new designs pump up the numbers. The teams get a chunk of change from it too – probably about as much as the refs want so its not really a significant number but these owners would steal the pennys off a dead players eyes.

  28. 28.

    MikeJ

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Perhaps because they’re the most usual suspect for sports fashion atrocities?

    You do know that in Casablanca, “round up the usual suspects” was shorthand for, “we don’t give a shit about the truth, we’re lazy and corrupt”, don’t you?

  29. 29.

    NotMax

    Pandaria begins at midnight, Pacific time. Supposedly a seamless transition when it begins, not requiring logging out and back in (we’ll see how that works out). For alliance, the first quest to speak to the king in Stormwind should appear when Pandaria goes live.

    All pandaren are neutral until level 10. Then they have to choose to ally with either Alliance or Horde. And no mailboxes in pandaren starting zone, so I’ve been told.

    Pandaren cannot be warlocks or Death Knights. Also too, goblins and worgen cannot be monks (the new class in Pandaria).

    Big changes in professions and crafting in Pandaria. Info here.

    Would be a hoot to have a BJ group of pandaren, but please, not on a PvP server.

    All my folks are on Alexstrasza server (PvE).

  30. 30.

    jl

    @Schlemizel:

    ” After last night I didn’t think people here are allowed to say they don’t like American football on a football thread 8-{D. ”

    American Football is weird game, even though I watch it.
    And in my book, da Raiduhs is still winless. Sad day for use erstwhile Raiders fans.

    but watching last half of Pats losing was fun, I don’t care about that happens. Though most of my time I had my face in beer and pizza.

    AND: Cole, DougJ is in your posts killing your doodz.

  37. 37.

    Bago

    @schrodinger’s cat: Quick and dirty HTML.
    XML is a tree with children nodes.
    The nodes are called elements, and they have attributes, name value pairs that you can assign values to. Consider them members of a class.
    HTML is an implementation of XML where the element names are parsed by browsers in agreed upon ways. Tags like head and body mean certain things.
    CSS is pretty much a class definition for attributes.
    You write the base markup around the content, but add an attribute that it belongs to a named class.
    The CSS is a series of definitions with names, so element gets tagged with the fact that it needs to import its attribute settings from class “foo” from CSS “bar”.
    This way you can tweak font sizes and whatnot on the whole page by tweaking the CSS. You don’t have to touch the content, as the CSS is separate.
    A division of labor kind of thing.
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    September 24th, 2012 at 9:10 pm

  38. 38.

    NotMax

    @raven

    Gonna be finding stuff for years and years. Not long enough for species to differentiate a la Galapagos Islands, but still for a long while.

  39. 39.

    redshirt

    I actually felt old and confused just a moment ago when y’all start talking video game talk. Then I thought – my FSM! It’s going to keep getting like that, except with everything as I get older and older. NO!

  41. 41.

    Schlemizel

    @cathyx:
    They underwrite most of the college programs. Millions in uniforms & shoes, multimillion dollar payments to coaches. They have to make that money back somehow. $200 sneakers and Jerseys make a lot of that money back.

    Of course tax payers also cover some of that as they deduct a lot of it as advertising expenses on their taxes.

  42. 42.

    raven

    @NotMax: I’ve thought a lot about most of the people on the boat getting sick and how the captain originally was going to go between Maui and the Big Island but could tell we wouldn’t have been able to hack it. The gulf can be rough and Hatteras is “the graveyard of ships” but, damn. That is one big ass ocean.

  43. 43.

    Bago

    Also, the Sounders football team sponsored by Xbox (green) share the stadium with the Seahawks (blue), so a blue green combo seems like branding synergy.

  44. 44.

    MikeJ

    @Bago: And to demonstrate what a difference the CSS makes, look at CSS Zen Garden. All the demo pages are done with identical HTML. The only thing that changes is the CSS. Look at the all designs page to see some of the neat stuff people have done.

  46. 46.

    Eric U.

    lots of people have suggested that we not watch the NFL as a way to bring back the refs. My problem is I’m drawn to it to see how bad it gets. It’s like people that stare at the aftermath of car crashes as they drive past, only to cause more car crashes. I know it’s a bad idea, but I can’t help myself.

  48. 48.

    NotMax

    @redshirt

    As someone who qualifies for senior discounts, can empathize.

    I experience the same reaction whenever anyone talks about football.

    Here’s a very short lexicon from my earlier jargonish post:

    PvP = Player vs. Player (players can attack/battle one another).

    PvE = Player vs. environment (players don’t attack or battle one another unless they toggle on the option to set a character to be able to do so with only other players so set, otherwise they exclusively advance in the game via quests and battles with the game’s non-player characters (NPCs).

  51. 51.

    Gravenstone

    Where the hell did the short lived Also Too B-J guild call home? Been out of the game a few months so can’t log in to see where my toons from AT might be, provided I didn’t delete them for disuse.

  53. 53.

    murakami

    I have no time at all to play WoW now, even though I miss it a dearly. Hope you’ll post on this topic again come December since I’ll probably have a fair amount of time to kill when the semester is over.

    And I can’t believe you’re Alliance John. That doesn’t fit my perceptions of your personality at all. Those goody-goodies, with lame battle cries, are practically Republicans.

  54. 54.

    NotMax

    @murakami

    Strictly a personal observation (and yes, do have one lone horde guy).

    Alliance capital cities are at least relatively easy to navigate in and through.

    Horde cities all seem as if they were designed by M. C. Escher or by the architect of the library in The Name of the Rose.

  57. 57.

    mcd410x

    At 20,000 feet, the partial pressure of oxygen is half what it is at 0 feet. Wouldn’t opening the window, in effect, suppress the fire by half? Isn’t that why a person needs supplemental oxygen at that altitude?

    Doesn’t make what Mittens said any less funny.

  58. 58.

    Heliopause

    Fun drinking game- drink every time the refs blow or miss a call.

    The bigger problem isn’t them missing calls, it’s them calling every single little burp and fart that they see.

  59. 59.

    RareSanity

    @mcd410x:

    Outside of compromising the structural integrity of the plane, you have no idea what manner of chaos would result from “opening a window”…at 30,000 feet, moving at about 400 mph.

    At that speed, any hole in that aircraft that wasn’t design to be there, will only get bigger with the forces that would be acting on it.

  62. 62.

    lol chikinburd

    Apart from the red zone sputter, that’s actually some pretty impressive halftime adjustment by the Pack: give the ball to Benson and make more throws from play-action, and you’re bound to be sacked fewer than eight times in a half. Wish it had occurred to them earlier.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    @MikeJ:

    I really love that site. I go over there occasionally just to wander around.

    I dream of what a CSS commando could do with Balloon Juice. Then I come back to my senses and resume drinking.

  65. 65.

    Geeno

    Well announce the location, all of my 85’s are on Uldum, but I don’t have any empty toon slots there. Yes, I suffer from sever altism.
    An all pandaran BJ Guild would be fun.

  66. 66.

    Jay in Oregon

    I don’t pay to play right now, but I have a couple of level 20 Alliance twinks on Trollbane on a free starter account; a Dwarf Resto Shaman and a Human Frost Mage. (Also a Tauren Paladin that I lost interet in around level 13 or so.)

    Whenever I feel the urge to start playing full-time again, I heal thankless assholes through Shadowfang Keep or the like a few times, and it goes away. I would do the same for my Mage, but it’s easier to get into a 5-man as a healer or tank…

    On the plus side, I have a really nice set of gear for level 20; the last 5-man dungeon I was in, I almost had more health than the tank!

    Lemme know where people plan to play, and I can roll something up there and play, at least until 20…

  69. 69.

    Brian

    “II IS…making it TOUGH…to WATCH…EVERY GAME!”
    Line of the season on the travesty which is the replacement refs.
    -Mike Tirico

  70. 70.

    Gravenstone

    Once again, the fake officials become the story of the game. Crap roughing call, specious hold, and an absolutely crystal clear cut case of offensive interference called on the defensive back. Totally inexcusable.

  72. 72.

    smith

    Tirico and Gruden are absolutely killing the refs and they are two of the biggest “Nothing’s-Wrong-Everything’s-Fine” cheerleaders on the planet.
    (Yes, I know they did this last week too.)

    This has been a horrible, godawful, terrible abomination of a game.

  73. 73.

    MattR

    Does anybody know if yesterday’s Lions-Titans game was the first game in NFL history ended by a measurement for a first down? I think it has to be.

    @smith: I think Gruden hates ripping on the players from the booth (probably because he had too many of his players incorrectly critiqued by announcers who don’t have the whole story) but has never really had a problem criticizing the refs

  74. 74.

    Donut

    Well, now that was an appropriate ending to a crap-filled drive.

    No offense, Seahawks fans, but a score on that drive would not have been fairly earned.

  76. 76.

    Geeno

    But Seattle pulls it out anyway.

    @MattR: probably not. The owners just don;t want to budge. It’s going to have to get worse.

  78. 78.

    Gravenstone

    If this doesn’t put the nail in the coffin of the scab official experiment, nothing will. This season has officially entered the realm of farce.

  79. 79.

    James E. Powell

    How much more can NFL fans take?

    Packers have got to be pissed and when they watch that replay they are going to be really pissed.

  80. 80.

    Foxhunter

    What a farkin’ mess this is. And I don’t even like the Packers.

    They were fvcked. At least twice on this one play.

    This is worse than boxing.

  83. 83.

    smith

    If this shittastic ending doesn’t bring the real refs back, nothing will.

    I am a Bears fan and FFS even I think the Pack got jobbed.

  84. 84.

    PS

    As a Packers fan, I’m apoplectic with rage right now. They clearly miss the blatant offensive PI on Tate; then they ignore the fact that Jennings CLEARLY comes down with the ball and Tate doesn’t even touch the ball until he’s on the ground.

    Fuckedy fucking fuck.

  88. 88.

    Or something like that.Suffern Ace

    Eggs. We need to start throwing god damned rotten eggs at the owners wherever we see them.

  89. 89.

    MattR

    @PS: It looks like Tate gets his hands on the ball while they are in the air, but then he clearly takes one hand off the ball as they go to the ground. Definitely a pick.

  90. 90.

    S. cerevisiae

    OK, I’m a Viking fan and the Packer fans should be rightfully livid about losing like this. They wuz robbed.

  92. 92.

    smith

    So the Pack came back out? I wouldn’t blame them at all if they refused to come out.

    And Tirico and Gruden keep ripping the refs. Won’t do a shitload of good, but it is beautiful to listen to.

    If we thought Steve Young and Trent Dilfer were pissed off last week…

  95. 95.

    MattR

    I think I am gonna go turn on the NFL Network to see how they spin this.

    And they are beating up the refs pretty good even before getting to the last play.

    OTOH, they also pretended that the last play was not controversial.

  96. 96.

    Donut

    Question open for debate…should McCarthy have allowed 11 guys to come back out and “finish” this game for the extra point attempt?

    I’m sure he had to be thinking, at least for a minute, fuck it. Forfeit the game at that point. No one would hold it against him. Classy move on McCarthy’s part.

  97. 97.

    smith

    @Donut:

    It was classy. McCarthy is a better man than I am because I would have said “Screw It” and not let my guys go out there as a form of protest.

  99. 99.

    Noonan

    Larry McCarren on Packers Radio Network (at least three times during the last drive): “That was a crap call” including once when the Pack should’ve been called for interference.

  100. 100.

    mainmati

    Green Bay got screwed last play of tonight’s game. I’m a Steelers guy so I’m not in for either team (though my uncle was once the Fire Chief for a precinct of Seattle – yo Uncle George). But, my god, Wilson got that Holy Mary pass though they gave it to the muddle.

    This lockout needs to be settled soon.

  101. 101.

    Noonan

    McCarthy didn’t mention the refs at all in his postgame interview. Said “he was very disappointed”.

    I noticed Rodgers pushing a camera out of his way as they were clearing the field (before the review) and he looked pissed.

  102. 102.

    MattR

    Commenters at ProFootballTalk have generally been very pro-owner but the comments on the hail mary post are just destroying Goodell and demanding the real refs back.

  103. 103.

    Donut

    @MattR:

    Sure. I’m not disputing that it was a formality. I just personally think McCarthy would have been justified not sending any guys out there to participate in the play. He also came out on the field for the play.

    He didn’t have to, is the point, but he did anyway. That’s losing with grace. It was the right thing to do, regardless.

    I am a Packers fan, and I’m looking for something to help choke down this shit sammich.

  106. 106.

    Geoduck

    I was following the game via comments on a Seahawk fan-site; The officiating was bad all game long, the Seahawks were the ones who got lucky in the end.

  107. 107.

    MattR

    @Donut: I just watched his press conference and he is definitely a better person than I am.

    I just wanted to point out that if he had chosen to keep his team in the locker room it would not have been a forfeit.

  110. 110.

    J R in WVa

    OK, I’m kinda a Packers fan cause they’re not owned by a rich turd like all the other teams. And it’s a bad thing that they (or any team) got butt-f’ed by the scabs.

    But that doesn’t stack up to the damage to the guy Sunday night who is probably still in the hospital, at least partly because the scabs can’t call a game right and don’t control the game at all. Or the risk to all the players on the field of every game being played with scabs on the field.

    I think the teams should do something to protect the life and career of their players… although it would probably get whoever tried to do something fired 2 wall-clock minutes after it became obvious something was being tried.

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