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You are here: Home / Popular Culture / Cracks In Reality

Cracks In Reality

by Zandar|  September 29, 201210:32 pm| 141 Comments

This post is in: Popular Culture, Television, Bring On The Meteor, Clap Louder!, I Reject Your Reality and Substitute My Own, Wingnut Event Horizon

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Doctor Who tonight was…well, classic Steven Moffat writing.  No spoilers from me, but definitely the best episode in an awfully long time.

And speaking of cracked realities…

 

They’ve gone over the cliff, inventing entire realities where Mitt Romney will come back and win.  Sure it’s possible, just not very likely.  It’s possible Earth will get hit by a deadly meteor next Thursday, too.

When Obama actually wins, these guys will be calling for armed, violent revolution.  Count on it.

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    September 29, 2012 at 10:34 pm

    It’s possible Earth will get hit by a deadly meteor next Thursday, too.

    Still preferable to a Romney presidency.

  2. 2.

    gnomedad

    September 29, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Political Stone Angels – get their power from transporting people to 1860.

  3. 3.

    srv

    September 29, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore.

    This election is going to be stolen, I tell ya.

  4. 4.

    Yutsano

    September 29, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    It’s possible Earth will get hit by a deadly meteor next Thursday, too.

    Bout damn time. That fucker’s late.

  5. 5.

    beltane

    September 29, 2012 at 10:37 pm

    On NPR this afternoon they were making it sound like Romney has already lost the election by a landslide, saying that Obama really is well like by Catholics and working class white people after all.

  6. 6.

    Hal

    September 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    I sure hope many rank and file Republicans turn on their party leaders after this election, because it is those “leaders” that have led so many Republicans down this path.

    They’ve spent so much time portraying Obama as an idiot, that now they simply can’t explain why he’s winning, so they just say he’s cheating. Fox News, Limbaugh, Jennifer Rubin etc, all using massive dishonesty to prop up their ludicrous candidate with lies.

  7. 7.

    Mark S.

    September 29, 2012 at 10:41 pm

    When Obama actually wins, these guys will be calling for armed, violent revolution.

    That’s a given. I remember a couple years ago when they were jacking off to the idea of a military coup.

  8. 8.

    Phil Perspective

    September 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    When Obama actually wins, these guys will be calling for armed, violent revolution. Count on it.

    So how will they excuse away the fact that Ohio elections are run by a corrupt GOPer jackass? Are they going to claim he’s really a Democratic mole? What about other states, like Wisconsin, Michigan and Iowa that GOPers run.

  9. 9.

    Yutsano

    September 29, 2012 at 10:50 pm

    @Mark S.: Unleash the Hoverrounds!!

    Seriously, where exactly is this armed resistance going to come from? The Civil War started because the governours of Southern states decided to openly defy the federal government. Now so many of those states have military bases that can pretty much quell any sort of uprising pretty quickly. Not to mention that would take a huge amount of organisation and money, and in the Internet Age that is virtually hard to hide.

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    September 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    When Obama actually wins, these guys will be calling for armed, violent revolution.

    No, these guys will be carefully talking around it. They’ll talk about Second Amendment solutions and need to protect ourselves from jackbooted thugs and States Rights, but they’ll carefully avoid saying anything out loud about armed rebellion. That will be for the less respectable crazies.

  11. 11.

    Neil

    September 29, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    It was good Who. The end was unfortunate, but after the big bang, the only acceptable out I suppose.

  12. 12.

    Crusty Dem

    September 29, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    They’ve gone over the cliff, inventing entire realities where Mitt Romney will come back and win.

    That’s not the problem. They actually believe he’s ahead right now. And that’s fucking nuts.

  13. 13.

    BonnyAnne

    September 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    how did you get your Dr fix so fast? I’m stuck waiting until Amazon lets me watch it tomorrow. *Jealous*

  14. 14.

    Davis X. Machina

    September 29, 2012 at 10:54 pm

    @Yutsano: Thus it has ever been so:

    Glendower: I can call spirits from the vasty deep.

    Hotspur: Why, so can I, or so can any man;
    But will they come when you do call for them?

    (Henry IV, 1)

  15. 15.

    MikeBoyScout

    September 29, 2012 at 10:55 pm

    You’ve forgotten that Willard’s been practicing his zinger schtick for the debate for 2 months.
    That’s bound to reverse the dynamics of the race.

  16. 16.

    MikeJ

    September 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    @BonnyAnne: Wasn’t it on BBC America tonight?

  17. 17.

    melior

    September 29, 2012 at 10:57 pm

    I’m old enough to remember an October 4 years ago when they were saying, “Just wait til election day and McCain wins, you won’t be laughing then!”

  18. 18.

    Hal

    September 29, 2012 at 10:59 pm

    Oooohhhhh, Romney Zingers…

    my fave:

    “Kenya believe how bad my opponent has wrecked the economy? Kenya?” #RomneyZingers

    http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2012/09/29/the-newest-romney-model-is-coming-pre-loaded-with-zingers

  19. 19.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    September 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    @melior: “Just wait til election day and McCain wins, you won’t be laughing then!”

    Bookmark it, libs!

  20. 20.

    mdblanche

    September 29, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    @Phil Perspective: Yes. SATSQ

  21. 21.

    PsiFighter37

    September 29, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @srv: I’m as paranoid as it gets when it comes to the voting stuff, but I really don’t think it’s going to be anywhere close enough to steal it. The President is going to crush R-Money – just watch the polls after the debates.

    PF37 +3 (Saturday night’s alright for a drankin’)

  22. 22.

    dance around in your bones

    September 29, 2012 at 11:04 pm

    I recommend psychedelics. They’ll crack yer reality, by Gawd.

    But in a good way.

  23. 23.

    beltane

    September 29, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    @MikeBoyScout: Nothing like a stale zinger to get the heart rate going.

  24. 24.

    TaMara (BHF)

    September 29, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    @Baud: Win.

    Typing from my new netbook Other than getting used to the keyboard, which hasn’t taken long (my laptop is 17 inches with a number pad), it’s a rockin’ little travel computer. Fast, light, but it could use a little longer battery life.

  25. 25.

    Lurking Canadian

    September 29, 2012 at 11:07 pm

    @Xecky Gilchrist: We will wonder how they were able to call it.

  26. 26.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    September 29, 2012 at 11:10 pm

    @Lurking Canadian: Hee hee

    I never get tired of that. I was trying to find the original, and this comment was as close as I’ve gotten. It says the original was posted on 10/28/08 but I haven’t found it yet.

    Come to think of it, the original may have been deleted. As with this blog, Teh Sadly has and had a very troll-tolerant policy, but The Truth would sometimes cross the line and get all its comments on a given thread scrubbed.

    Like that time it went off the deep end and started posting comments like ‘LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL’ and ‘WWWWOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAARRRR’

    …man, Teh Sadly was gold in them days.

  27. 27.

    Gravenstone

    September 29, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    It’s possible Earth will get hit by a deadly meteor next Thursday, too

    Get it right. It’s Hot Fudge Sundae, which falls on Tuesdae, next week.

  28. 28.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    September 29, 2012 at 11:12 pm

    @BonnyAnne: It came on BBC America, but if you really don’t want to wait, go to http://www.combom.co.uk.

  29. 29.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:13 pm

    @Hal:

    Fox News, Limbaugh, Jennifer Rubin etc, all using massive dishonesty to prop up their ludicrous candidate with lies.

    The answer to your question question to your answer:

    מה נשתנה, הלילה הזה
    מכל הלילות

  30. 30.

    LanceThruster

    September 29, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Fact is I was truly hoping for mass revolution when Bush stole the election, particularly because it seemed as if Dem leadership would not be standing up for democracy themselves.

    It was too long in the wilderness, and too soon to go back.

    If rethug losers want to dance after their puppetmaster plot fails, I say bring it.

  31. 31.

    TenguPhule

    September 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Damn…just damn. That is the most depressing ending to Dr. Who since he became the new Doctor.

  32. 32.

    dance around in your bones

    September 29, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    @TaMara (BHF):

    my laptop is 17 inches

    I was gonna make a snarky remark about bragging about the length of yer laptop until I saw it was you, TaMara.

    17 inches, haha. That’s like in Boogie Nights territory!

  33. 33.

    Schlemizel

    September 29, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    @Baud:

    Win!

    Also: I will admit that I really expected the election of a black president would lead to multiple assassination attempts. I sincerely thought this would send the wingnuts over the edge badly. While they certainly have gone further insane they have at least not tried to Kill Obama. The result is I don’t expect his reelection to lead to armed revolt.

    I’m certainly not a Pollyanna I expect deeper, louder insanity but even as dark as my opinion is I don’t think we will have more violence that the occasional scattered bullshit we have had in the last 3 years. I hope that will be the case.

  34. 34.

    TenguPhule

    September 29, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    Political Stone Angels – get their power from transporting people to 1860.

    Worse, it only affects their minds.

  35. 35.

    Roger Moore

    September 29, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    @SFAW:
    I think that what Fox, Limbaugh, Rubin, et. al. are really thinking is more of
    מנא ,מנא, תקל, ופרסין

  36. 36.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    they have at least not tried to Kill Obama.

    That we know of. There was the plot uncovered a few months ago, but it sounded like it was not exactly of the well-oiled-machine variety. (Disclaimer: I don’t really know the details, so I’m basically talking out of my ass hat.)

  37. 37.

    Gravenstone

    September 29, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @TenguPhule: But entirely consistent with how the characters have developed through the series.

  38. 38.

    Schlemizel

    September 29, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @melior:
    That reminds me of one of the few “Peanuts” cartoons I actually though was funny. I repeated this many time as a Boy Blunder joke.

    CB: Someday I’ll be elected President of this country and you’ll all be sorry then!
    Lucy: We certainly will be sorry!

  39. 39.

    clayton

    September 29, 2012 at 11:21 pm

    could someone remind me how to get that red and blue on memeorandum? I had it before my computer died. (I know that is rated as a poor excuse these days.)

  40. 40.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    Look, wiseguy, just because I can cut-and-paste doesn’t mean I can actually read what I cut-and-pasted.

    Russian, maybe. Chinese, possibly. Hebrew, sorry.

    ETA: But if I had to guess, I’d go for Mene mene tekel upharsin.

  41. 41.

    dance around in your bones

    September 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Ok, nobody else is linking to music, so here:

    I offer you Saturday Night, by Herman Brood.

    ‘Cause it’s Saturday night. Right?

  42. 42.

    Yutsano

    September 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    @SFAW: The Secret Service has been working overtime because of all the various threats to Obama and his family. It’s been totally meschugnah.

  43. 43.

    Peter

    September 29, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    Does anyone know a good website that lists what states have started early voting? Preferably which can also locate your pollin location as well. I’m just a humble Canuck, but I’d like to post a reminder for my northerly-challenged friends to GOTV.

  44. 44.

    Roger Moore

    September 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    @SFAW:

    Look, wiseguy, just because I can cut-and-paste doesn’t mean I can actually read what I cut-and-pasted.

    But the great Gizoogle probably can.

  45. 45.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 29, 2012 at 11:27 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    I’m certainly not a Pollyanna I expect deeper, louder insanity but even as dark as my opinion is I don’t think we will have more violence that the occasional scattered bullshit we have had in the last 3 years. I hope that will be the case.

    No Pollyanna here either. If nothing else, I’m comforted by the fact that the loonies are so categorically fucking stupid that they couldn’t plan a two car funeral, let alone anything more challenging.

  46. 46.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 29, 2012 at 11:28 pm

    @Schlemizel: There have been many, many assassination attempts against Obama. The Secret Service is just pretty good at quashing them.

    There are lots against every President, actually, but Obama gets unusually many.

  47. 47.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:30 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Yeah, I took an edumacated guess, amazingly got it right. Didn’t know you could input Yiddish into The Google like that, learn something new every day.

  48. 48.

    Perfect Tommy

    September 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Speaking of cracked realities, I’ve been in a political ‘back and forth’ with a FB friend from back home that I haven’t seen in 20 years. This guy is the type of rightie who posts all of the viral pro-Republican, anti-Dem stuff that litters the Internet. He ‘likes’ Bill O., Malkin, Limbaugh, Beck, etc. Tonight I found out that the guy is a Postal worker and his wife is a school teacher. Talk about voting against your own interest…

  49. 49.

    Duane

    September 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm

    Amazingly Ohio doesn’t have party registration, so I guess a drop is pretty impressive. We do however have party affiliation based on which primary you voted in the previous primary. When you have an uncontested primary as Ohio Dems had this spring, people don’t in the primary. Expecting wingnuts to understand this is too much to ask for I guess…. well anything that gets them through the days.

  50. 50.

    AA+ Bonds

    September 29, 2012 at 11:31 pm


    Greece’s far-right Golden Dawn party is increasingly assuming the role of law enforcement officers on the streets of the bankrupt country, with mounting evidence that Athenians are being openly directed by police to seek help from the neo-Nazi group . . .

    __
    “They immediately said if it’s an issue with immigrants go to Golden Dawn,” said the 38-year-old, who fearing for her job and safety, spoke only on condition of anonymity. “We don’t condone Golden Dawn but there is an acute social problem that has come with the breakdown of feeling of security among lower and middle class people in the urban centre,” she told the Guardian. “If the police and official mechanism can’t deliver and there is no recourse to justice, then you have to turn to other maverick solutions.“

  51. 51.

    Schlemizel

    September 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    @SFAW:

    Not really talking out your ass. That is a plot that was uncovered but it was not actually executed.

    There were, what, 2-3 separate shooting incidents at the White House under Clinton? A Kamikaze attack. Plus a couple of busted plots. I really thought there would be a dozen James Earl Rays lining up for their chance to plug the ni-clang. I seriously worried for his family.

    I think those sorts of losers could still appear after November but, as was mentioned above I think the loudest voices will skirt the issue, play right up to the line. They may get some nutbags to do something stupid but they won’t actually to anything stupid themselves, it would spoil the grift.

  52. 52.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    @Perfect Tommy:

    Tonight I found out that the guy is a Postal worker

    You sure he didn’t say he “went Postal”? You might wanna check, just to be sure, since I think there’s a difference.

  53. 53.

    Roger Moore

    September 29, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    @SFAW:

    Didn’t know you could input Yiddish into The Google like that, learn something new every day.

    That’s Hebrew, dude, not Yiddish.

  54. 54.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 29, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    I like the idea of Romney listening to the “Zingers From The Hollywood Squares” LP over and over, memorizing all of Paul Lynde’s best lines.

  55. 55.

    Peter

    September 29, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    @efgoldman: Well, Reid’s said he’d sink the filibuster, so…there’s reason to hope there. Got my fingers crossed on the House.

    I’d say the circular firing squad has already started up. We got a preview of it with the intraparty warfare in the House.

  56. 56.

    Mark S.

    September 29, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    The founder of Unskewed Polls looks like quite the ladies man.

  57. 57.

    piratedan

    September 29, 2012 at 11:35 pm

    @dance around in your bones: well I’ll play along until LB shows up and starts a poutfest….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxadznkyxjk

  58. 58.

    burnspbesq

    September 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    @Phil Perspective:

    So how will they excuse away the fact that Ohio elections are run by a corrupt GOPer jackass?

    You mean that Democratic mole?

  59. 59.

    Doctor

    September 29, 2012 at 11:36 pm

    You bringing politics into my life is pathetic! PLEASE DON’T WATCH the show if you plan to use it for political rhetoric!

  60. 60.

    burnspbesq

    September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    Right now, the four words I most want to hear in the same sentence are “House Minority Leader Boehner.”

  61. 61.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    No shit.

    If I had instead said “Jewish”, would you have “corrected” me on that, too?

    Give me a little credit, OK?

  62. 62.

    Schlemizel

    September 29, 2012 at 11:38 pm

    @efgoldman:

    I think we need to more really solid beatings before the nutbags get tossed overboard. The real owners of the party are close to losing the cheap labor, unregulated, tax free environment they want simply because the nutbag wing of the party demands insanity as a qualification for office. If the GOP gets its ass kicked in 14 & 16 by putting up more nutbags the owners are going to have to find a way to take control away from them.

    Back in the 20’s & 30’s the owners in Germany were often supporters of the Nazi party because they were strongly anti-communist & gave the owners a lot of what they wanted. They thought the could control the nutbags but it turned out the nutbags ended up owning the owners. That could still happen here but it does not look like it. It looks more like the nutbags can’t steal the government and will drag the owners down in defeat.

  63. 63.

    piratedan

    September 29, 2012 at 11:41 pm

    @burnspbesq: and I sure hell hope we get to hear them this January

  64. 64.

    Schlemizel

    September 29, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    @Matt McIrvin:

    See my comment about the WH shoot em ups & the plane attack under Clinton. You may think there have been dozens of prevented attacks but then how do you explain the absence of actual attacks?

    This is a lot quieter that I expected

  65. 65.

    dance around in your bones

    September 29, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    @piratedan:

    Muy bueno.

    Rock and Roll Junkie

  66. 66.

    BonnyAnne

    September 29, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    @MikeJ
    @Belafon

    Thanks! Don’t have BBC America but I’m glad to know that Dr Who actually plays in a timely manner on the channel (unlike Downton Abbey, cough cough)

  67. 67.

    Roger Moore

    September 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @burnspbesq:
    I wouldn’t mind “the late Justice Scalia”.

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    September 29, 2012 at 11:46 pm

    @efgoldman: Orecchiete. You’re welcome. :)

  69. 69.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    September 29, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    @efgoldman: I wonder if any of these TeaHadi klowns can […] calculate a tip in a restaurant.

    Why should they bother? That waitress is probably an Obama supporter.

  70. 70.

    cckids

    September 29, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    @Schlemizel: There must be some serious threats out there, though. Pres. Obama’s coming here to Vegas from Sunday-Weds for debate prep, and the Secret Service has grounded all commercial helicopter flights for the duration. The business owners are furious & being very loud about it. One said he’d lose something like 125-200 thousand dollars by canceling customers. Which sounds suspiciously high to me, I mean, really?

    Tho the FAA has come up with an alternative take-off place, on the CA border, so people can still fly over Lake Mead & the Canyon. I’m sure people will still be pissed.

  71. 71.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 29, 2012 at 11:48 pm

    @Mark S.:

    I just searched on “Dean Chambers.” Nothing in the returns mentioned that he’s anything more than a conservative blogger. No background in math, polling, statistical analysis. Just another fluffer relieving the Republicans of their cash.

  72. 72.

    jwb

    September 29, 2012 at 11:50 pm

    @srv: I feel like if they were planning on stealing it, they would be doing a better job of preparing it.

  73. 73.

    Yutsano

    September 29, 2012 at 11:51 pm

    @Dennis SGMM: Wingnut welfare is a sweet gig if you can get it.

  74. 74.

    dance around in your bones

    September 29, 2012 at 11:53 pm

    Ok, this is long, but coolio.

  75. 75.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 29, 2012 at 11:54 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Ever get the feeling that there are numbers of people who feel that Republican = mark?

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    September 29, 2012 at 11:56 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Not for long. You’ll have to listen very quickly. If that becomes true, Ryan and Cantor will shiv Boehner faster than Cassius and Brutus offed Caesar.

    Ryan and Cantor wouldn’t do that because they are honorable men. All of them.

  77. 77.

    Tractarian

    September 29, 2012 at 11:57 pm

    Sure it’s possible, just not very likely. It’s possible Earth will get hit by a deadly meteor next Thursday, too.

    A Romney victory in November (16.2% possibility per Nate Silver as I write this) is way more likely than a catastrophic impact event next week, I would think. 16.2% is not nothing. (That said, I’m damn glad my guy is the one with 83.8%…)

  78. 78.

    piratedan

    September 29, 2012 at 11:59 pm

    @dance around in your bones: liked yours too…. wasn’t familiar with him…..

    so lets see…. I’ve been a roots rocker/jangle pop mood, so since we’ve had our Raspberries and Rockpile moments, maybe a step here makes sense….

    Baby Blue

  79. 79.

    SFAW

    September 30, 2012 at 12:00 am

    @Roger Moore:

    As efgoldman said:
    From your keyboard to FSM’s aural appendage…

    I’d settle for him stroking out a tad, though. Or even pulling a Chuck Colson. But then who will Clarence go to, to find out how to think?

  80. 80.

    Bill Arnold

    September 30, 2012 at 12:02 am

    @Schlemizel:

    This is a lot quieter that I expected

    I’ve been suspecting that the Secret Service has been unprecedentedly proactive and vigilant. No evidence though.

  81. 81.

    Yutsano

    September 30, 2012 at 12:02 am

    @SFAW:

    But then who will Clarence go to, to find out how to think?

    I’m hoping he drops the mic and sez “Fuck all you crackers, I’m gonna go cheat on my white wife!”

  82. 82.

    jwb

    September 30, 2012 at 12:05 am

    @Tractarian: Nate’s at 83.8% because he has built in uncertainty artificially. Last I checked, his model and Wang’s are actually closer to 98%.

  83. 83.

    SFAW

    September 30, 2012 at 12:06 am

    @efgoldman:

    Well, that was some orthogonal thinking.

    @Yutsano:

    You can do better than that. I mean, I hate the guy, too, but you’re channeling Rushbo with that line.

  84. 84.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 30, 2012 at 12:07 am

    Long day, up since 5AM, so I’m in the mood for something a little more cooled-out. Dean Martin doing “Sway”

  85. 85.

    dance around in your bones

    September 30, 2012 at 12:08 am

    @piratedan:

    Here’s Nina Hagen singing about Herman Brood – Herman ist High

  86. 86.

    kay

    September 30, 2012 at 12:09 am

    Romney has to spend the entire debate attacking Obama or the GOP base will be bitterly disappointed.
    Remember, they wanted to nominate the corrupt lobbyist Newt Gingrich based soley on Gingrich’s (alleged) ability to “smack down” Obama in a debate.
    There are two groups Romney has to please in that debate; normal people and the GOP base.
    That’s probably impossible.

  87. 87.

    Cacti

    September 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

    When Obama actually wins, these guys will be calling for armed, violent revolution. Count on it.

    I do worry more than a little bit, that after Obama wins a second term, there will be an attempt on the life the POTUS, FLOTUS, or even one of their children.

    There has never been a time that the far right wasn’t willing to resort to violence.

    I don’t want there to be a song about “Abraham, Martin, John, and Barack”.

  88. 88.

    SFAW

    September 30, 2012 at 12:11 am

    @efgoldman:

    Oh, stop with the “being right” thing, OK? Those of us who are superficial get kind of annoyed by it.

  89. 89.

    Cacti

    September 30, 2012 at 12:15 am

    @kay:

    Romney has to spend the entire debate attacking Obama or the GOP base will be bitterly disappointed

    I fully expect Romney to be nasty, hectoring, and personal throughout.

    Or unpresidential in the eyes of everyone but 27-percenters.

  90. 90.

    dance around in your bones

    September 30, 2012 at 12:16 am

    here’s Lene Lovich singing Lucky Number

    These guys all hung out together(Herman Brood, Nina Hagen and Lene Lovich). I listened to them intently back in the day.

    Ok, I guess WAY back in the day.

  91. 91.

    Bruuuuce

    September 30, 2012 at 12:18 am

    @Phil Perspective: Same as it ever was. Conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed (and wow, did that disgrace of a poor cheater fail to deliver!)

  92. 92.

    max

    September 30, 2012 at 12:18 am

    @dance around in your bones: Ok, this is long, but coolio.

    I have no idea what the hell that was but seeing ‘Nina Hagen’ made me want to hear 99 Luftballoons (2002 version).

    max
    [‘Which seems appropriate to our friend Bibi’s audiovisual presentation.’]

  93. 93.

    Schlemizel

    September 30, 2012 at 12:19 am

    Just found a great handle I want to use

    If I can’t be “Frankenstienbeck” (I love that handle) I want to be

    Debag Chopra

    DIBS!!!

  94. 94.

    Roger Moore

    September 30, 2012 at 12:19 am

    @jwb:

    Nate’s at 83.8% because he has built in uncertainty artificially.

    It’s more than that. Including some uncertainty is probably reasonable; there is always a chance of some kind of late breaking surprise. The bigger thing is that his model also includes some weight to a model based on economic fundamentals rather than polling. The weight is supposed to drop to zero as the election approaches, but it’s something like 1/3 of the total prediction right now.

  95. 95.

    Yutsano

    September 30, 2012 at 12:21 am

    @efgoldman: I’m trying to not pay attention. If I don’t watch they do better. But last time I peeked they were down by four points at halftime!

  96. 96.

    Bruuuuce

    September 30, 2012 at 12:22 am

    @Zandar OP: The ep was certainly better than the last couple, but that’s a very low bar. At least there was an apparently happy ending. I just wish Matt Smith could borrow a half-liter of gravitas from Tennant, or any actor who can do serious, as opposed to comedy or action (“Same as always. Run!”) VERY happy to have the other occupant of the TARDIS back, and hope it’s for more than just this ep.

  97. 97.

    piratedan

    September 30, 2012 at 12:23 am

    shifting gears…..

    Long White Cadillac

  98. 98.

    AA+ Bonds

    September 30, 2012 at 12:24 am

    .
    .
    9/30/2008:

    Barack Obama, meanwhile, appears to be in an increasingly strong position. It may just be his race to lose. (Key quote: “As best I can tell, no one running for president since 1976 who has held a consistent lead after the first debate has ever lost.”) Both Obama and John McCain are calling for the FDIC to raise its limits on federally insured bank deposits.
    __
    McCain changed an initial plan to come to Washington, and is instead going to Kansas City. But he also hasn’t ruled out suspending the campaign again, a la last week, if necessary to saving the rescue bill, saying this morning: “I’ll do whatever I can to make this thing work.”

  99. 99.

    dance around in your bones

    September 30, 2012 at 12:24 am

    @max: Different person but still a coolio song ;)

  100. 100.

    SFAW

    September 30, 2012 at 12:26 am

    @Cacti:

    I fully expect Romney to be nasty, hectoring, and personal throughout.

    Part of me wishes that he had used Scott Brown’s debate coach, and the first thing out of Mittens’s mouth would be some riff on Brown’s Elizabeth-Warren-ain’t-a-Injun-I-can-tell-by-looking-at-her-can’t-you? assholery. (Which he later denied he said. Let’s go to the tape, Scotty!)

    Which I guess could dovetail with the ni-CLANG thing.

  101. 101.

    kay

    September 30, 2012 at 12:27 am

    @Cacti:

    They’ve been waiting a long time for this. 4 years.

    Anything less than screaming “you lie!” Will be a let-down and a sign of “weakness”.

    Remember those primary debates? Ugly. They ate that up.

  102. 102.

    AA+ Bonds

    September 30, 2012 at 12:28 am

    .
    .
    9/30/2004:

    Following is the transcript of the presidential debate between President Bush (R) and Sen. John F. Kerry (D). The moderator of the nationally televised debate was Jim Lehrer of PBS.

  103. 103.

    Jibeaux

    September 30, 2012 at 12:30 am

    @Mark S.: Ooh, that collar buttoned at the neck so more fat can squeeze out the top..,rowr.

  104. 104.

    Schlemizel

    September 30, 2012 at 12:32 am

    @kay:

    Those were great debates! Booing an Iraq war vet, cheering for the death of the uninsured, denying science. It would be lovely if Willard could replay a compilation of his greats -s-hits from those heady days.

  105. 105.

    suzanne

    September 30, 2012 at 12:32 am

    @Hal: Ohhh, yay! I was hoping someone would have a romneyzingers on Twitter.

  106. 106.

    AA+ Bonds

    September 30, 2012 at 12:33 am

    .
    .
    9/30/2000:

    From: Dave Farber
    Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 08:29:48 -0400
    __
    ———- Forwarded message ———-
    Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:43:58 -0400
    From: vinton g. cerf
    To: Declan McCullaugh , farber*cis.upenn.edu
    Cc: rkahn*cnri.reston.va.us
    Subject: Al Gore and the Internet
    __
    Dave and Declan,
    __
    I am taking the liberty of sending to you both a brief
    summary of Al Gore’s Internet involvement, prepared by
    Bob Kahn and me. As you know, there have been a seemingly
    unending series of jokes chiding the vice president for
    his assertion that he “took the initiative in creating
    the Internet.”

  107. 107.

    Triassic Sands

    September 30, 2012 at 12:33 am

    @Baud:

    Damn, the deadly meteorite (technically not a meteor when it hits the Earth’s surface) is almost preferable to the mere thought of a Romney presidency.

    The American people are a fickle lot. Should they do the unthinkable and elect Romney (as opposed to another SCOTUS presidential installation), it won’t take long for some in the middle and lower-middle class who voted (R) to turn on Romney…when he gives them the shit sandwich he promised all along.

    I can see Romney challenging Bush for the Worst President Ever title, but ultimately trumping the smirking chimp by crashing through the mystical 23-27% barrier and achieving an approval rating in the teens. (Maybe I am underestimating the number of completely insane radical conservatives — that 20-something barrier might be both real and unassailable.)

    In the event of an Obama victory, calls for violent revolution will likely have to wait for the Republicans’ appeal to the Supreme Court to discover grounds for yet another apocalyptic constitutional crisis the country can’t survive if the rich, white guy isn’t declared the winner. In that event, any calls for revolution might come from the less-well-armed left.

  108. 108.

    Anne Laurie

    September 30, 2012 at 12:35 am

    @Xecky Gilchrist: …

    man, Teh Sadly was gold in them days

    I miss HTML Mencken. Well, Gavin and Brad, too, but I really miss HTML Mencken’s long posts.

    At least I can hope that he will re-emerge in teh blogosphere at some point…

  109. 109.

    James E. Powell

    September 30, 2012 at 12:38 am

    @burnspbesq:

    I think if they lose the house they will dump Boehner for Cantor.

  110. 110.

    AA+ Bonds

    September 30, 2012 at 12:38 am

    .
    .
    9/30/1996:

    RONALD ELVING, Congressional Quarterly: Remarkable how the approval of Bill Clinton seems to have increased in value in the last couple of years. Last night we actually heard the Republicans saying that 14 of the things that Bill Clinton took credit for in his presidential acceptance speech in Chicago were things that they had done, whereas, the Democrats, when they controlled the Congress the first half of Bill Clinton’s term only got five mentions in the President’s acceptance speech. A remarkable thing that the Republicans would be taking credit for that.

  111. 111.

    kay

    September 30, 2012 at 12:40 am

    @Schlemizel:

    I was thinking about the word “zingers” and then Mitt Romney.

    Romney believes holding someone down and cutting their hair is a “prank”. The others who were there didn’t think it was a prank, and in fact were still ashamed, decades later.

    I don’t know that we can rely on the ordinary understanding of “zinger”.

  112. 112.

    Cacti

    September 30, 2012 at 12:41 am

    @James E. Powell:

    I think if they lose the house they will dump Boehner for Cantor.

    I think Cantor’s pretty happy where he is. Boehner is his useless figurehead a la Tom Delay and Denny Hastert.

  113. 113.

    Violet

    September 30, 2012 at 12:42 am

    @piratedan: And shifting again…

    Dwight Yoakum, A Thousand Miles from Nowhere

  114. 114.

    Schlemizel

    September 30, 2012 at 12:45 am

    @kay:

    Oh yeah! I mean, what would a zinger be for somebody that came out of the process that included those things I mentioned and worse?

    My nipples are all hard and crinkly in anticipation! And I’m not given to anticipation.

  115. 115.

    jwb

    September 30, 2012 at 12:50 am

    FYWP. So indik@tur is another of those mysterious words that the spam detector won’t let through. Properly spelled, of course.

  116. 116.

    SFAW

    September 30, 2012 at 12:51 am

    @Schlemizel:

    Well, I see you quiver with antici … pation.

  117. 117.

    piratedan

    September 30, 2012 at 12:53 am

    @Violet: right there with you….

    Guitar Town

  118. 118.

    Cmm

    September 30, 2012 at 12:57 am

    Home alone, turn up the volume, and dance around the living room sorta mood…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vzUh_55x2M

  119. 119.

    mdblanche

    September 30, 2012 at 12:57 am

    @Cacti: I doubt Boehner will be speaker much longer either way. He’s clearly not enjoying being Cantor’s puppet.

  120. 120.

    Cmm

    September 30, 2012 at 1:00 am

    Hmm see if this works?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vzUh_55x2M&feature=youtube_gdata_player

  121. 121.

    Violet

    September 30, 2012 at 1:04 am

    @Cmm: Not working. What is it? Just taking me to YouTube’s home page.

  122. 122.

    dance around in your bones

    September 30, 2012 at 1:06 am

    @piratedan:

    piratedan, every time I click one of your links my Web of Trust (on Firefox) thingie tells me the site is “rated untrustworthy”.

    Y’all wouldn’t lead me astray, now – wouldja?

    (I have no idea why that site is rated that way).

  123. 123.

    Dennis SGMM

    September 30, 2012 at 1:10 am

    @kay:

    This’ll kill you, Ann. I made them build the stage and then I stood on it and fired all of them! You should have seen the looks on their faces.”

  124. 124.

    Violet

    September 30, 2012 at 1:10 am

    @piratedan: Yep….
    Richard Thompson, 1952 Vincent Black Lightning.

  125. 125.

    piratedan

    September 30, 2012 at 1:11 am

    @dance around in your bones: no idea, they’re just youtube links, then again, maybe You Tube is indeed untrustworthy…. at least you can rest assured I’m not sending you to Redstate or Fapdu :-)

  126. 126.

    jwb

    September 30, 2012 at 1:14 am

    @Cmm: Is this what you were looking for?

  127. 127.

    Cmm

    September 30, 2012 at 1:17 am

    That’s it, don’t know why it would not copy for me! Thanks!
    (it’s polyphonic Spree’s cover of Lithium, Violet.)

  128. 128.

    karen

    September 30, 2012 at 1:18 am

    I figure that there will be Romney supporters/Teapublicans yelling the “N” word from the audience. Or if Romney is REALLY desperate, he’ll not only zing Obama, the right will expect him to come as close to NI~Clang as he could, including euphemisms. Anything to rattle Obama. Good luck with that.

  129. 129.

    jwb

    September 30, 2012 at 1:20 am

    @Cmm: The “x” copied incorrectly. I used the Youtube “share” link and hard pasted into a link to avoid FYWP from “correcting.”

  130. 130.

    dance around in your bones

    September 30, 2012 at 1:30 am

    @piratedan: I hesitate to think about what Fapdu is all about.

    Oh, ok, I prolly get it ;)

  131. 131.

    burnspbesq

    September 30, 2012 at 2:33 am

    @SFAW:

    Ryan and Cantor wouldn’t do that because they are honorable men. All of them.

    Cantor would do it. Remains to be seen whether Ryan will be around to participate.

  132. 132.

    Frankensteinbeck

    September 30, 2012 at 3:17 am

    @Schlemizel:
    …thanks?

  133. 133.

    fuckwit

    September 30, 2012 at 3:23 am

    Keep phonebanking.

    Keep donating.

    Keep doing voter registration.

    Get out there and do voter protection.

    Do not get complacent. Do not get paranoidd.

    DO NOT LET THE FUCKERS STEAL THIS ONE. Get off your ass and get involved.

  134. 134.

    J R in WVa

    September 30, 2012 at 3:39 am

    @jwb:

    The U of Illinois has a similar gadget, you can select strong lean R, weak lean R, neutral, weak lean Dem, strong lean Dem.

    The result is a chart with red for R chances and blue for Dem chances. For the past week it doesn’t matter which lean choice you make, the chart is all blue, all the time, for Obama and for the Senate. Well, a little tie grey color shows up with a strong R lean, but nearly all blue

    Link: http://electionanalytics.cs.illinois.edu/

  135. 135.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 30, 2012 at 8:34 am

    @Gravenstone: If we were on GOS I’d T&R the Pellucifer’s Whammer reference.

    Best line in the book (IMHO a damn fine work up to when the Hammer hits & the authors climb onto their Far-Wrong hobby horses & ride off into the sunset) came when the scientists were asked whether the comet’s impact would mean the end of the world & they replied (paraphrased), Oh, nothing that serious. Only the end of civilization. Poifick!

  136. 136.

    Randy P

    September 30, 2012 at 9:44 am

    @Schlemizel:

    I really expected the election of a black president would lead to multiple assassination attempts

    What makes you think it hasn’t? The number of threats the Secret Service deals with has skyrocketed.

    I was listening to an interview with a writer who just wrote a long profile of the president for some magazine. There was a moment where he was being shown Obama’s favorite spot in the White House, a private balcony accessible from the residential quarters. And the balcony has a bullet mark from a high-powered rifle, just in the place where he likes to sit.

    I think that was from this shooting.

  137. 137.

    xian

    September 30, 2012 at 11:02 am

    @beltane: it’s only in the south where the white working class breaks strongly against him. (I’d guess in Appalachia too.)

  138. 138.

    barry

    September 30, 2012 at 11:14 am

    President Obama: Willard, may I call you Willard?

  139. 139.

    lou

    September 30, 2012 at 11:16 am

    When I read that first headline, my reaction was, well, duh, you Republicans keep trying to block Democrats from registering to vote!

  140. 140.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 30, 2012 at 12:15 pm

    @Schlemizel: General beefing up of security culture post-9/11, I think.

    Granted, that crazy period in the first Clinton term was pretty hairy.

  141. 141.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 30, 2012 at 12:20 pm

    @SFAW: Clarence Thomas isn’t Scalia’s puppet, he’s just pure wingnut. As far as I can tell, he’s actually to the right of Scalia.

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