Looks like we have our new coveted demographic group:
A National Journal analysis of recent polling results across 11 states considered battlegrounds shows that in most of them, Obama is running considerably better than he is nationally among white women without a college education. Obama’s gains with these so-called “waitress moms” are especially pronounced in heartland battlegrounds like Iowa, Ohio, and Wisconsin.
[…..]Both campaigns agree the Democratic ads have damaged Romney much more with blue-collar women than blue-collar men. But both sides also agree that these women are the least stable component of Obama’s emerging coalition. “I still say the noncollege white women are the moving piece of the electorate,” Garin said. “But Romney is an imperfect vessel for them to say the least.”
Republican pollster Alex Bratty has spent several months conducting focus groups of “Walmart moms”—women who regularly shop at the giant discount chain. That group extends beyond blue-collar white women but includes many of them. Bratty says the women in her groups are grappling with a choice that leaves many profoundly ambivalent.
taylormattd
Oh, boring. Waitress moms. Hasn’t this one been done already?
Edit: I’m pissed smintheus’ “Fifty Shades of Grey Grandmas” didn’t make the cut.
? Martin
@taylormattd: I think it did make the cut. You just have to wait 18-30 years.
taylormattd
And by the way, I know it’s corny. But that song is one of my favorites. To this day I have some kind of a visceral reaction as he describes the people in the bar.
taylormattd
Doug, have you used “And the microphone smells like a beer” as a title yet?”
bondirotta
So now Ann Coulter will start attacking slutty diner waitresses demanding free abortions.
ChristianPinko
Where da white women widout a college education at?
Dr. Loveless
Call it “The Flo Factor.”
Kiss my grits, Mitt!
Just Some Fuckhead
Mitt needs to hit the diner circuit and leave thousand dollar tips.
? Martin
@ChristianPinko:
Colleges are a good place to look.
Roger Moore
@? Martin:
Who’s going to remember Fifty Shades of Grey in 18-30 years? I’m skeptical that many people will remember it in 2016.
the Conster
I mean, when people, and women in particular, find out that not only can’t you have a beer with Romney, you can’t have a cup of coffee, or even a Coke! You can’t make a living with tips on that uptight straight guy in the corner booth who only orders water and a mayonnaise and cheese sandwich.
Mayur
@taylormattd: Wait until Boehner’s next press conference.
red dog
@Dr. Loveless: Love your “Flo Factor” but a lot of polls from 4 years ago show this demo is also least likely to to vote and the polsters at Walmart are collecting useless data.
Roger Moore
@the Conster:
Hey, Mittens will order pizza once in a while. And then remove the cheese, like any weirdo cultist.
shortstop
I wonder how many of them have already spit in Mitt’s food behind the scenes at diner campaign stops. Fortunately for him, he has food phobia, so he never tastes the stuff he’s served on the stump. Too busy insulting it.
ThresherK
@Just Some Fuckhead: Will it make up for that 2009-ish meme of rich fnckers stiffing waitstaff on tips and saying “I’m redistributing the money to the needy instead”?
I, for one, would love to see the kind of tips Romney gives to WaitressMoms(TM) in October 2012. It would tell us exactly how many minutes ago he started giving a crap about them, as I’m sure there are Romney tip stories out there from when he didn’t need anyone to like him one iota more than necessary.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@taylormattd:
FUck me, I just saw Frank Bruni’s creepy “not to get all shades of gray on you, but I’d like a little pain right now” clip. I’m sure he means higher taxes and increase in the SS cap, not cuts to beneficiaries.
prufrock
@Roger Moore:
The author of The Bridges Of Madison County just shed a tear.
Roger Moore
@ThresherK:
I’m sure that Romney’s tip to those “white women without a college education” will be that they should borrow money from mom and dad, or maybe sell some of their stock, and get themselves an education. That’s the kind of tip you can take to the bank!
butler
@Roger Moore: I bet they’ll remember the little bundles of joy that resulted from reading it and the corresponding grandkids those bundles produced, which I think is the meaning Martin was getting at.
Anya
@ChristianPinko: At abortion clinics.
mamayaga
@ThresherK:
Well, there’s already been the story about Mitt leaving his half-drunken cocoa with a barrista in lieu of a tip.
Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ
@taylormattd:
It’s my favorite so far.
butler
So you’re telling me a Democrat is polling well among women who are likely in the mid to lower portion of the economic ladder?
NO WAY! Next thing you’ll be telling me that the Republican is suddenly doing well among born again Christian Men?!?
Anya
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: OMG! How creepy was that. Also, it was disconcerting that a bunch of millionaires were talking about tax increase on the rich with such a condescending sneer. God, I hate these douchebags.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Anya: was that the same maggoty band with which Lord Brokaw was bloviating about poors being accustomed to their free stuff?
Bubblegum Tate
@Dr. Loveless:
Romney’s attempts to court this demographic: “Hustlin’ Flo”
Another Halocene Human
“least stable”
load of crap. at least according to my anecdata registering people to vote at a rural Walmart.
Poor white women are the same women who GO to PP for their cancer screenings. Many of their husbands are Republican voters, but they aren’t.
Also, too, poor white Republicans are pretty embarrassed these days.
Spaghetti Lee
Nice. Had ’em in my office pool.
shortstop
@Bubblegum Tate: Nice work.
Another Halocene Human
@ThresherK: There was an epic story about him trying to return a half-finished cocoa to the clerk at Starbuck’s.
ETA: @mamayaga: beat me to it.
El Cid
@Roger Moore: He has to remove the cheese because the oils in the mozzarella dissolve the servo insulators which audio-animate his smooth, nearly lifelike movements.
Persia
@mamayaga: One of my friends enjoys reminding Mormons that chocolate contains caffeine. I think it brightens his day.
What a weird story.
Another Halocene Human
@Persia: Brigham Young didn’t have any rivals in the cocoa import trade, as he had rivals in the brewing business, so I’m sure it’s more of a venial sin than, say, a mortal one.
j/k, I wish Mormons believed in mortal sins. Actually their hell is an enormous waiting room where Mormon missionaries attempt to convert you, forever, the End.
Anya
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: No, this one was with Frank Bruni and that guy from New York Magazine who co-wrote the campaign book with Halperin (his name escapes me). It was disgusting.
Roger Moore
@El Cid:
You had me until the “nearly lifelike” part. “Vaguely lifelike” would be more accurate.
TG Chicago
NYT:
Frankensteinbeck
Does this read to anyone else as another desperate attempt to pretend that women could not possibly be leaving the GOP permanently due to the GOP treating them loudly and publicly like shit? I am continually impressed by the Cult of Savvy explanation for our media. They will bend over backwards and shove their head up their own backside to avoid even the thought that policies matter.
ThresherK
@Another Halocene Human: Leading to this imaginary, yet sadly, entirely possible, conversation:
STAFFER: Sir, you have to leave bigger tips now; people are watching.
ROMNEY: Will do!
STAFFER: That means actual money, sir.
ROMNEY: What, I’ve been doing it wrong?
PurpleGirl
@TG Chicago: Which is why the Democrats should keep reminding people over and over that Rmoney has outsourced and/or eliminated tens of thousands of jobs at companies Bain controlled.
gbear
If there are any waitress moms in the house, I’ve got a question: When leaving a tip at a restaurant, does it make a difference to the waitress/waiter if you leave the tip in cash at the table rather than add it to the credit card slip? I always leave cash at the table figuring that it’s less bureaucracy.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Roger Moore: If 50 shades of poorly written housewife bondage fantasies makes it to 2014, color me surprised.
Linda Featheringill
@Another Halocene Human: #28
Good for them!
Poor white women are definitely in line to get screwed if the Republican platform becomes reality. They aren’t alone by any means but they are vulnerable. It would be nice if they voted and voted according to their interests.
Reasonable 4ce
Yeah, but what happened to the all-important Lesbian Security Mom demographic?
Linda Featheringill
@gbear:
Tipping:
The way it used to be back in the Stone Age, it all depended on the establishment. Some places were very good about seeing that people got their tips, others not. Cash money on the table is less likely to be messed with by management.
RedKitten
“women will prioritize what we TELL them to prioritize!”
Pisses me off to no end, this Republican assumption that women won’t care how badly their rights are trampled upon, because they’re too worried about the economy. Not only is it insulting, it’s false. Anybody who knows ANYTHING about women knows that we’re more than capable of holding multiple thoughts on multiple issues in our heads at the same time. How the hell else do they think we manage to hold down jobs, keep the kids’ schedules organized, remember that the car needs an oil change, prepare supper, worry about our aging parents, and remember to call the vet to schedule Max’s heartworm treatment, all at the same time? NOBODY does multitasking like a woman.
Nellie in NZ
Plus the size of each kids’ underwear and socks as the sizes constantly change, which kid needs which vaccine next, dentist appointments and cousin’s birthdays.
HRA
@gbear:
Since I once was in the ranks of waitresses, it’s better to leave the tip on the table.
In addition, at the present time and even earlier, not all waitresses are lacking in being college educated. Sometimes is waiting to get the right job (raises hand). Other times, it’s getting a lot more money at a very popular restaurant.
Lojasmo
Mitt has dropped off the stage. This is depressing, and the national polls have him within 3.5 points. Somebody needs to get mitt to say something, stat.
Ah, Wednesday, I need you.
Jackmormon
@gbear: You may not like this answer, but here goes: the IRS presumes something like a 12% tip rate to calculate wages (remember that waiters usually earn well below minimum wage because tips are also presumed). A credit card tip is automatically reported. A cash tip is not.
Also what Linda said above about management tinkering with tips.
gbear
@Linda Featheringill: @HRA: Thanks. I’ll continue leaving cash at the table.
RedKitten
@Nellie in NZ: Exactly. And our spouse’s families’ birthdays, because we’re usually the ones who remember to buy cards.
But you know, we’re so busy worrying about the economy that we don’t even NOTICE that our rights to control our own reproductive systems are being stripped away.
What, me worry?
gbear
@Jackmormon: So does it hurt if I leave my usual 20% tip and let them report it themselves as required?
Redshift
@RedKitten: It’s worse with women, but that seems to be the Republican strategy with every group this year. Romney’s “outreach” to Latino voters was to go and tell them that they really should be concerned with the economy instead of whatever stupid things they actually are concerned about.
They planned to have an election that was a referendum on Obama over the economy (which wasn’t as wonderful a plan as the pundits made it out to be in the first place), and when reality turned out to be more complicated, their Plan B is to demand that the electorate conform to their Plan A. It’s pretty bizarre.
Elisabeth
@gbear:
If a tip is left on a credit card it has to be reported; if it is left as cash it can *accidentally* be excluded.
RedKitten
@Redshift: And they have no clue how blatantly obvious they are, in the fact that they think women and Latinos are just too damn stupid to understand how they SHOULD feel.
RandyH
I can see the flashy cable news graphics with those awesome sound effects now…
Election 2012: Year Of The Waitress
Jackmormon
@gbear: That’s for the best. Remember, the waiters usually “tip out” to the kitchen and bussers (the latter of whom are also often working at or below minimum wage). It’s a corrupt system, sure, and most of the people in it are constantly scrambling. Cash and the control that gives make things easier.
shortstop
@Redshift: Perfect summation of the situation.
Petorado
haven’t checked if this was covered on other threads, but a Republican-appointed judge made the following argument in defending the Obama Administration’s birth control coverage rules, that may very well be appealing to this newly-hyped demographic:
A shield, not a sword. That is some damn informed jurisprudence.
ETA: DougJ – how could you not think of this song? = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UX2afsTqFI
Cris (without an H)
As for that “non college” bullshit, I got two words: learn to fuckin type.
DPS
For 2016 I want to suggest the following crucial demographics:
the “hooker with a heart of gold” demographic
the “sardonic gay friend” demographic
the “hardbitten private detective” demographic
the “wise negro who just wants to help white people” demographic
the “prodigal son” demographic
trollhattan
Since it would be irresponsible not to speculate, I speculate Willard has taken the Herr and Frau Doktor Ol’ Perfesser approach and gone Galt with regards to tipping the serveritude class since l’affaire iphonecam at the billionaires retreat.
Those sub-minimum wage bastards can’t be trusted!