If you lie down with dogs, you wake up with crazy.
Grover Norquist, the guy who smarmily strong-arms almost every Republican into swearing an oath never to raise taxes, may be an Islamo-fascist Muslim sleeper agent — according to conservative hatemonger and Islamophobe David Horowitz.
Grover Norquist’s crime? He’s married to a Muslim-American! ::gasp::
Horowitz: We have a medieval enemy with twenty-first century technology aimed at us, they’ve infiltrated our government. If you wondered how it’s possible that Obama and Hillary would not know or would pretend what was happening wasn’t happening in the Middle East or how they could turnover Egypt as they have to the Muslim Brotherhood, which is the fountainhead of Al Qaeda and all of these terrible Islamic Nazi organizations, the answer is not really hard to find: the chief adviser to the American government on Muslim affairs, Hillary Clinton’s deputy chief of staff, Huma Abedin, is a Muslim Brotherhood operative and she has been all her life, and her whole family is. This is worse than Alger Hiss, for those in your audience who are old enough to remember, Alger Hiss is a Soviet agent who was right next to Roosevelt at Yalta.
Mefferd: It’s very true and yet you had these five congressmen, Michele Bachmann and the others, who tried to say the inspectors-general need to look into this, and even Republicans stood up on the floor and said no!
Horowitz: You had Boehner and McCain, and McCain is just bonkers. But the Republican Party has also been infiltrated. Grover Norquist is a Muslim, he is a practicing Muslim.
This isn’t the first time Norquist has been accused of being a radical Islam sympathizer. Noted right-wing lunatic Frank Gaffney also thinks Grover Norquist is up to something.
Back in January 2011, Gaffney penned an article in WorldNut WorldNet Daily in which he claimed that “Grover Norquist is credentialing the perpetrators of this Muslim Brotherhood influence operation. … We are in a war, and he has been working with the enemy for over a decade.”
I have one thing to say to Norquist: Neener.
[cross-posted at ABLC]
Yutsano
Snicker. Eat it Grover.
Ash Can
Karma’s a bitch.
Violet
Is that true? I know his wife is a Muslim and can’t imagine how he can have any status in the Republican party given that, but have been curious if he’s Muslim or not. How the hell did he marry a Muslim woman anyway, since he’s a Republican? Dumb career move for a Republican.
WereBear
I’m reminded of the famous saying, “Those who live by the ill-sourced accusation…” wait, what’s the rest of it?
Tonybrown74
Forget Nat. Geo.. Watch some slow-motion wingnut cannibalism in real time.
Brazilian Rascal
If Obama wins, we can expect an uptick in bombing and shooting threats by deranged conservatives.
However, even if Romney wins the fever swamp might lash out all the same. Guess it’s what happens when the system spends 30+ years making excuses and coddling the vilest, most bigoted part of its base.
Redshift
I wonder if DougJ’s trolling skills could get them to believe that Norquist’s no-taxes pledge is a Muslim plot to weaken America…
Higgs Boson's Mate
This getting more like Le Terreur every day. Popcorn, anyone?
Randy P
That’s a beautiful thing. Norquist is the guy trying to get something named after Reagan in every state. Or is it every county? He’s the guy with the “drown it in a bathtub” quote. He organized the demonstrations against counting the votes in florida in 2000. His fingerprints are on EVERYTHING! How beautiful that the snarling chihuahua pack has chosen him for their next meal.
bemused
According to wiki, Grover and his wife married in 2004. What took the loonies so long to attack them?
General Stuck
It’s hard to match the loonacy of David Horowitz, so he is usually kept chained to a roof beam at American Specthater. I guess he got loose a little.
Violet
@bemused: I think there have been attacks from fringe wingnuts before this. But the crazies haven’t really been fully in charge of the party until recently. So now…
Nylund
Come on, yer not doin’ it right. To go full-wingnut, you’d have to combine the tax pledge oath and the Muslim rumor to form:
“Nearly every Republican signs pledge to Muslim Brotherhood Sleeper Agent.”
Delia
Yeah, once you base your strategy on the Coalition of the Crazy, this is what happens.
And I have no idea if Grover is a Muslim or not. It doesn’t matter. He moved onto Looney Lane and didn’t check out all the codes and restrictions his neighbors had in force.
Chris
@Violet:
Dude, Muslims were a Republican demographic right up until 2004, and even under Bush and McCain the theme that “we’re at war with terrorism not Islam” was often repeated.
Let’s face it, it’s fucking hard for you to your plan your life according to Wingnut Orthodoxy. You can’t possibly anticipate all the twists and turns, or who you’ll be expected to hate tomorrow.
Bill in Section 147
What is Arabic for “Duh.”
Grover’s an ISLAM mole. Hitler is an ISLAM mole. Stalin too. International Soshalist League of Anti-Christ Marxists.
Hidden. In. Plain. Sight.
Bush and bin Laden families are like the Secret Crescent Mafia.
xian
Atlas Tucked has been on Norquist since the get-go
Violet
@bemused: So, wait…Grover married his MUSLIM wife in 2004? WTF? That’s way after 9/11. I figured any wingnut who wanted a career in wingnuttery would know better than to marry a Muslim after that.
He must have figured his long history of being a “true conservative” would mean he was immune from any criticism. What a dumbass.
KG
the post-election GOP civil war is going to be epic. The SoCon/Christianist wing is going to have a field day with the fact that the party nominated a heretic/cultist to run against the mooslem usurper. And they are going to strike out at anything and everything that is not white, Southern, and sufficiently Christianist.
I’m going to go ahead and call it now, Mike Huckabee will be the 2016 nominee.
Calouste
Both Grover Norquist and radical Muslims like the late Osama bin Laden aim for the complete destruction of American government, so I can see where they are coming from…
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
This post needs a Bro’s before Horo’s tag.
KG
@Chris: all you have to do when you wake up in the morning is ask yourself “what do liberals/Obama/Democrats believe in today?” Then you go with the opposite. That’s level one. Level two is remind people why VICTORY! (sorry, couldn’t help it) is inevitable. Level three is being proactive in the “what will piss liberals off today?” Level four is James O’Keefe.
Patricia Kayden
Let’s play Wingnutmania. So what if Grover is a Muslim? So in Wingnutland, if you’re a Muslim, you’re automatically a terrorist?
Grover should come out and say: “Yes I am married to a Muslim woman and have converted”. What could the Wingnuts do to him anways?
bemused
@Violet:
Yes, there is that. Every crazy feels emboldened these days. I hate the GOP for enabling them all. Horowitz and Gaffney are way out on the fringe of lala land. I used to see Gaffney occasionally on cable news shows long ago but not in the last few years that I remember. You really have to be an ultra kook for cable news to avoid you.
Violet
@Chris: Oh, I remember all the “We’re not at war with Islam” crap. Meanwhile, Muslim-owned businesses were getting shot up and the reality on the ground was quite different. Maybe Grover’s too ensconced in his ivory tower to see it, but anyone out in red state land knew the score.
He’s still an idiot for thinking he could get away with marrying a Muslim woman and not come under suspicion.
KG
@Patricia Kayden: they could stop buying his books in bulk and paying him speaking fees and donating to his think tank.
in short, they could kick him off the wingnut welfare circuit.
Roger Moore
@Violet:
Of course not. Norquist is a believer in the true Republican religion, Mammon worship.
Richard
Hey, it adds up. Grover Norquist is a fiscal terrorist.
Suffern ACE
It was Norquist’s idea to have the GOProud as a cosponsor of CPAC a few years back to let the younguns know that Republicans are as tolerant as can be. I think there were a few disgruntled and complaining conservatives quotes about the whole wife issue at the time. I think it came up again during the Cordoba Center split.
The scary thing is that due to the limited number of american political parties is that if Norquist were pushed out as a RINO, he might end up working for … {shudddders}
beltane
I wonder what Pam Geller has to say about Grover Norquist’s conversion to Islam. Is his tax pledge part of the plan to impose Sharia Law on America?
? Martin
Maybe Grover should call in Jane Hamsher as a character witness on this one.
gypsy howell
What I want to know is, how the fuck is Grover Norquist’s wife working for the administration? Was there no other Muslim American who was qualified for that post? Sweet Jeezus.
Can’t we throw her back to the snarling jackals her husband has nurtured and cultivated for so long?
Chris
@KG:
No, not even, not this time. This was as simple as “we need a new overarching enemy, 9/11 finally gave us the opportunity, and if we have to throw one of our own demographic groups under the bus, so be it.” The conservative base jumped on the islamophobic bandwagon just that quickly, the establishment hung on until 2008, but at this point has mostly given in too.
It’s one of those incredible shifts that’s gone completely unnoticed in the “we were always at war with Eurasia” media. Almost as weird as of Republicans suddenly ran Cuban Americans out of the party.
catclub
He’s married to a Muslim-American.
Sleeper agent indeed.
Higgs Boson's Mate
@? Martin:
He shoots, he scooooooores!
Ash Can
Now I have that scene from The Incredibles, in which the bad guy is being attacked by his own mechanical monster, going through my mind.
bemused
@Violet:
Blinded by love and lust? He was born in 1956 so he didn’t get hitched until he was in his 50’s. The guy seems like an obsessed, single-minded no taxes nerd so maybe he fell hard when he finally caught the love bug.
Suffern ACE
@gypsy howell: No. Different people. Huma Abedin is clinton’s long time aide. Norquist’s wife is a different person.
Just Some Fuckhead
Jesus Christ is Lord!
jgaugust
Honest to fucking spaghetti monster, these people are absolutely insane. I don’t understand how there is a complete lack of rational thought process before words come out of their mouths. I assume that one neuron firing is required for speech. Apparently, I was wrong.
schrodinger's cat
@gypsy howell: Huma Abedin is married to Anthony Weiner not Norquist.
gypsy howell
@Suffern ACE:
Ooof — reading comprehension FAIL.
is it miller time yet?
Violet
@bemused: Or is she a beard?
catclub
“or how they could turnover Egypt as they have to the Muslim Brotherhood”
This attitude about other countries drives me bonkers.
Those other people who live in those countries? THEY own those countries.
Maybe because the people with this attitude never seem to treat Israelis voting for Netanyahoo the same way.
Ben Cisco
I’d feel bad for the little muppet, but 1) he’s a d-bag, 2) he STILL won’t learn anything from this, 3) he’s a d-bag, 4) oh yeah, he’s a d-bag.
gypsy howell
@schrodinger’s cat:
And if I had thought for a minute before I spat out my reply, I would have remembered that too.
Chris
@bemused:
True. We’ve all caught that bug at some point. If it’s as simple as him falling in love and deciding he didn’t care what his party had to say about it or how it looked on his resume because some things are more important then I say good for him.
KG
@Chris: oh, Cubans will be run out of the GOP as soon as Fidel (spit) dies and relations are normalized and Cubans are considered normal immigrants instead of refugees.
Suffern ACE
@catclub: When you believe that you are fighting against an all powerful conspiracy, when the powerful don’t seem to control the outcome, it just becomes part of the conspiracy. That’s how conspiracies work.
Citizen_X
He said he wants to DROWN AMERICA IN A BATHTUB!
@Higgs Boson’s Mate:
You know what Marx said: “First time as Robespierre, second time as Pepe Le Pew.”
Linda Featheringill
@gypsy howell:
Grover’s wife works for the Administration? I thought that was Wiener’s wife.
Ben Cisco
@Patricia Kayden:
Shoot him. IN THE FACE!
Higgs Boson's Mate
@Citizen_X:
Thank you for the laugh when I very much needed one.
befuggled
Why shouldn’t he marry a Muslim woman? It’s not as if his party has been trying to tell people who they can marry!
bemused
@Violet:
Hmm, must speculate. Again according to wiki, his wife was a Kuwaiti PR specialist who was formerly a director of the Islamic Free Market Institute and a specialist at the Bureau of Legislative and Public Affairs at USAID. These two seem to have much in common…it must be a marriage made in heaven…or paradise..whatever.
Face
LOLWUT?
Chris
@befuggled:
You have won the Internets! Your winnings, monsieur.
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
@gypsy howell:
Huma Abedin is married to Anthony Wiener, of twitter-junk fame, not Grover. (Yes, still married, oddly enough).
Grover’s wife must be another Muslim-American entirely.
Like Ralph Reed, Grover’s on my “List of Four Bullets That I am Totally Joking About But I Do Wish They’d Disappear”, also, too.
So that’s two mentions in one day! (Now we need threads on Karl Rove and Plush Windbag, to make it complete).
flukebucket
I heard or read somewhere not so long ago that the great revelation Grover has based his life and sacred honor on came to him when he was 12 years old riding a bicycle.
No taxes to be raised ever for any reason.
And this is what he has built a personal fortune around as well as unbelievable fealty from a major political party in this country. A god damn bolt of lightning out of the blue from when he was 12 years old and riding a bicycle.
I don’t know if that is true or not but if it is it makes the whole thing even more sickening that it naturally is anyway.
Violet
@bemused: The have two adopted children. Maybe they just wanted to adopt. Maybe they couldn’t have biological kids. Or maybe there’s no seksitime going on there. Maybe they’re good friends who thought it advantageous to become beards for each other. It would be irresponsible not to speculate.
Xecky Gilchrist
@KG: I’m going to go ahead and call it now, Mike Huckabee will be the 2016 nominee.
This fits with Dennis SGMM’s prediction a few days back that the 2016 Republican nominee would speak in tongues and wear a helmet.
Villago Delenda Est
Best course of action here: stand back, and let these fascist asshole shitstains annihilate each other.
The Other Chuck
I don’t care that the current target is Grover Norquist. These people need to be destroyed and ground into the dirt like the fucking return of the Klan that they are. With any luck, maybe we can get Grover to help out.
libarbarian
@Randy P:
Clearly, he only wanted to drown the gov’t in a bathtub to clear the way for the invading Jihad.
I’ve been re-reading the Gulag Archipelago after a decade. It’s AMAZING how much of the Soviet arguments/justifications sound like the arguments/justifications of today’s “Conservatives”.
Bets on how long it takes them to start accusing Scientists of “Wrecking”?
Higgs Boson's Mate
First they came for the Democrats…
Villago Delenda Est
@KG:
We saw a preview of that when Tom Tancredo decried all the Spanish he heard in the streets of Miami a few years back.
Chris
@Villago Delenda Est:
Yep. This. QFT. What you said.
Michael G
It’s more believable when you find out that Grover sent his eldest son, George Hussein Norquist, to a private Madrasah outside of Washington DC.
None of that’s true, as far as I know, but it would be irresponsible not to speculate.
Kyle
Manipulating ruthless pit-bulls is fun and effective for a sociopath like Grover, but eventually they turn on you.
Couldn’t happen to a bigger d-bag. At least the nutbars are cannibalizing each other for a change.
Karma’s a bitch, Grover. Go take a bath.
Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God
@flukebucket:
His father Warren was a VP at Polaroid (this is where Grover’s money comes from, he’s never worked the private sector). The story is that the Elder Norquist used to take bites out of young Grover’s ice cream cone. (Bite) “That’s federal taxes” (Bite) “That’s state taxes.”
Yep, great mystery here as to why Grover Norquist grew up to have such an irrational hatred of taxes.
Chris
@libarbarian:
I think it was Kennedy who observed that our hard-liners and theirs reinforced each other and weren’t really that different.
The difference being of course that their Goldwaters are dead and buried, ours very much alive and well.
bemused
@Violet:
I get the impression from watching Grover is that he doesn’t give a rat’s ass what anyone else thinks of him. He goes after what he wants as with his no tax agenda, and lets nothing get in his way. If Horowitz or Gaffney get too annoying, I wouldn’t be surprised if Grover would find some way to punish them.
Roger Moore
@Patricia Kayden:
Refuse to sign his “No taxes ever” pledge because it’s an al Qaeda plot to destroy America. Wingnuts are not stable, sane people, and they could turn on him viciously once they decide he’s no longer part of the tribe.
Randy P
@libarbarian: I was reminded of “Animal Farm” but that was based on the Soviets of course.
GregB
@Michael G:
His child was forced to watch Sharia Lewis and Neck Chop on Jihad PBS.
Bruce S
Good! He deserves any crazy shit thrown at him. Plus Horowitz has to come up with Something to raise funds. Glenn Beck has grown market share.
ranchandsyrup
He outlived his usefulness and is now cast aside to be lovingly nurtured by firebaggers.
Interrobang
@Face: There really are Muslim neo-Nazis. The main thing they have in common with other neo-Nazis is that they hate Jews. (Hell, there were even Muslim Nazi collaborators during WWII; this shit goes way back.)
Chris
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:
“You know, Dad, the lesson I’m learning here is that if you allow them, your parents will use shitty parables as a pretext to EAT YOUR FUCKING ICE CREAM!”
Violet
@KG:
I don’t think so. He’s got a sweet radio gig right now and he’d have to quit that to run. I think Huckabee’s smart enough to know that a smaller and smaller party can’t win. Plus he’s got fat again. I don’t think he’s going to run.
NonyNony
@Roger Moore:
Given wingnut logic they might suddenly decide that taxes are good and that drowning the government in the bathtub is a Muslim plot to create the Caliphate.
I mean that’s a best-case, pie-in-the-sky, happy ponyland fantasy scenario, but it sure is fun to dream about…
Villago Delenda Est
According to his wiki page, Norquist is a Methodist. Which, of course, is marginally “Christian” to the serous bible thumpers. He’s also the son of a Polaroid executive, so there’s a good chance he’s a trust fund baby, and therefore has no right to whine about entitlements.
bemused
@Villago Delenda Est:
Stupid cretin but people vote for idiots like him. Makes me embarrassed to be an American.
gocart mozart
@gypsy howell:
Abedin married then-Congressman Anthony Weiner (D-NY) on July 10, 2010 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huma_Abedin
The Muslim Brotherhood have infiltrated the New York Jewish establisment! Anthony Weiner is a muslim sleeper agent!eleventy!
Villago Delenda Est
@Chris:
Someone who has a working brain might come up with that.
This of course precludes a wingnut from having the light bulb go off over his or her head.
NonyNony
@KG:
Remember back in 2008 when the party nominated a “RINO” Senator who couldn’t beat the communist mooslem usurper wannabe? And how for the next four years the party base struck out at anything and everything?
Yeah – they’ve been doing that and they still got Romney. In fact, he was the only clown in the clown car that was taking the nomination process seriously. The rest of them were a pack of grifters looking to latch onto some serious speaking tour wingnut welfare gigs.
gocart mozart
@KG:
Nah, Donald Trump/Allen West Ride that Crazy Train
Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.)
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving dickwad. But beyond that, what the fuck is wrong with these asssholes like Horowitz (not a typo; he’s so awful, “asshole” needs three ses to describe him)? Huma Abedin is a Muslim Brotherhood agent? Isn’t she the woman whose husband is Anthony Wiener? Do Jewish guys routinely go around marrying Muslim Brotherhood agents? Am I missing something?
And beyond that, what is this hard-on they have with President Obama “letting” the Muslim Brotherhood win an election in Egypt? What do they think he should have done? I really want to know this, since they bring it up so often. What would they have had him do? Bring back Mubarak and have the U.S. Army put him in by force? Start a war with Egypt? Bomb the country off the map? I can’t understand what they’re thinking. It’s like getting pissed off at Latvia because they “let” us elect President Obama in 2008.
Chris
@NonyNony:
I remember some people predicting a GOP civil war after 2008. The problem is, it takes two sides to have a civil war, and the moderates just weren’t there. Not even on the East Coast could you find enough sane Republicans to mount an opposition to the teabaggers – they’d all been purged in the eighties or at most, 1994. So instead of a civil war, all we got was another purge, the victims of which weren’t even moderates so much as designated scapegoats.
The next purge is going to be fucking fierce, too.
Violet
Wingnuts have mistrusted Norquist for awhile. Here’s a Michele Malkin post from 2009 titled “The GOP’s Grover Norquist problem and the RNC debate”. It includes various bits about how he collaborated with the enemy (People for the American Way) and then moves on to how he “forged even more dangerous alliances in the name of Muslim GOP outreach.”
Malkin doesn’t bring up his wife, but the commenters sure do:
Higgs Boson's Mate
We may get to see the Republicans trying to out-crazy each other in order to both stay ahead of the purity brigade and to position themselves as Princeps Déméns of their party.
This may go well – for us.
Woodrowfan
@bemused:
You know who else didn’t marry until he was in his 50s!
David in NY
Grover was born on October 19, 1956 (Happy Birthday!), and didn’t get married until 2004, and then he married a Muslim? At age 48? Who worked in a government job?
Wikipedia (you are warned): “In 2004, at age 48, he married a Palestinian Muslim named Samah Alrayyes, a Kuwaiti PR specialist who was formerly a director of the Islamic Free Market Institute and specialist at the Bureau of Legislative and Public Affairs at United States Agency for International Development (USAID). The couple has two children adopted from abroad. Norquist is said to live a modest lifestyle. According to friend and former roommate John Fund, Norquist’s devotion to his political causes is ‘monk-like’ and comparable to that of Ralph Nader.”
Watch out for them monks. Specially the ones who marry Muslims.
burnspbesq
Wait, what? Egypt is ours to give away to whomever we choose?
Cue up the Johnny Carson tapes: “I did not know that.”
David in NY
Also, there’s a lot of chicken-counting going on here — “wait till after the election” — assuming Obama will win. Let us not get overconfident.
Mnemosyne
@KG:
Mike Huckabee will never, ever run for president, much less get the nomination. His decisions to let Maurice Clemmons and Wayne Dumond out of prison took care of that.
Even Republicans find it hard to overlook dead cops and murdered rape victims.
Anatoliĭ Lъudьvigovich Bzyp (Mumphrey, et al.)
@Woodrowfan:
My MOM! (I might have a slight obsession with the Regular Show…)
David in NY
@Woodrowfan:
Who?
bemused
@Mnemosyne:
I’m not so sure about that. They can overlook just about anything if that Republican can win.
...now I try to be amused
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:
By being taught to believe that the government is as big an asshole as his dad?
Chris
@Violet:
I fucking love how they truly believe that people are preprogrammed drones who will all behave according to programming, and you can decipher that programming simply by cracking open the Holy Book they supposedly follow. The notion that there might be just as many cafeteria Muslims as Christians is just inconceivable.*
Of course, they think of themselves as practicing Christians with no contradictions between their own actions and what they follow, so the delusion’s about more than just Muslims…
(*That’s ignoring the fact that the Koran, to the best of my knowledge, doesn’t actually forbid marrying an infidel, especially a Christian or a Jew. Tradition does forbid that, but that’s not quite the same thing and there are more than a few Muslims who’ve rationalized their way around that by figuring “well, it’s not GOD/Mohammed who said it, after all.”)
Chris
@Mnemosyne:
Yep.
The people don’t trust him because he’s soft on crime and has occasionally said non-hateful things about Hispanics. The elites don’t trust him because he’s occasionally implied that there might be more important things in the world than the Invisible Hand of the Market-God. He’s fucked. Case closed.
White Trash Liberal
Irony:
Horowitz used to be a Trotskyite.
shilohsmama
@GregB:
WE HAVE A WINNER!!! Ding Ding Ding goes the Internets!!!
Forum Transmitted Disease
Huh. Suddenly I like David Horowitz. Maybe I’ll send him an assault rifle with some hi-cap magazines as a present.
To fight the Muslims, you know.
? Martin
Including the 9 months in-utero, given when personhood starts. In fact, Muslim men, when impregnating their wives stuff a kaffiyeh and teeny-tiny suicide vest in there during foreplay.
gene108
@KG:
Funny!
Huckabee got run out of the 2008 primaries for raising taxes in Arkansas, as governor, i.e. the “Norquists” of the GOP didn’t find him pure enough.
qwerty42
@White Trash Liberal: I’m not sure he was a Trotskyite. But he was definitely a part of the New Left back in the day. His book, Free World Colossus was a critique of US foreign policy in the Cold War era (he wrote it about 1965). It seems the murder of a friend set him off on a very different path; now he just sounds like a crazy, bitter racist.
The Other Chuck
@Forum Transmitted Disease: So you’d like it if an armed crazy person murdered Grover Norquist’s wife and children as long as they got him too?
Huh.
Chris
@White Trash Liberal:
There’s a funny phenomenon with more than one radical where their “conversion” has led them from being one kind of extremist to another. If memory serves, Mussolini was a Socialist before becoming a Fascist.
Triassic Sands
Getting legislators to sign a pledge to NEVER RAISE TAXES is a good way to attack the well-being of the US from the inside. Overt terrorism isn’t the only way to destroy a country.
Now, if our insane Republican legislators could just put two and two together (lower taxes = Muslim extremism) they would reject Norquist’s pledge and begin the long, long trek back to sanity. I don’t expect to win over these lunatics with rational arguments, but unless they change their ways, we’re in for a long slide into oblivion. So, doing the right thing for a stupid reason may be the best we can hope for today.
Tehanu
@Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God:
And since Grover still buys into Dad Norquist’s worldview, he hasn’t figured out that he was a victim of child abuse? I’d feel sorry for the poor schmuck except, well, he’s a schmuck.
El Cid
What did Norquist do to get in the way of Horowitz’ vampiric ego and hungering griftiness?
maya
If you wanna be a wingnut fo the rest of yo life,
Never make a Muslim woman yo wife,
So from my personal point of view,
Get a shiksa girl to marry you.
maya
@Woodrowfan:
Of course! Only he didn’t have much of a honeymoon.
Forum Transmitted Disease
@The Other Chuck: From an aesthetic perspective, I could ask for nothing more than he be drowned in a bathtub.
But I’ll take what I can get.
LGRooney
I though that was the CIA.
Seanly
@David in NY:
Monks can still be d-bags & a-holes as evidenced by Norquist.
RaflW
I don’t like to delight in his wife’s misery, but Grover deserves every wingtard insanity dished his direction.
Bruce S
@White Trash Liberal:
Horowitz was only kinda-sorta a Trotskyist. More like an aficionado of Isaac Deutscher than an operative member of a Trotskyite sect – like Bill Kristol’s dad and some of the other old neo-cons. But, frankly, I don’t think there’s anything particularly ironic in that personal history. It’s indicative of a mind-set. Except that he was actually more reality-based and less of an unhinged prick when he was part of the far left. When he edited Ramparts magazine, he actually tended to criticize people on the Left who were as wildly irresponsible, dishonest and fringe as he is now as a Right-wing crank/grifter. (Not that his marginal sanity helped much when he got into a disastrous relationship with the Black Panthers, at their worst.)
Bago
The Muslims have figured out how to weaponize vaginas! We need to draw a bright red line….
Bibi is a perv.
Bruce S
@RaflW:
“his wife’s misery” – Christ, she married Grover! Seems like her misery is self-inflicted.
e.a.f.
so who cares about his domestic unit’s religion. Doesn’t the constitution have something about religious freedom & all that? Oh, right, that doesn’t apply, its the U.S.A.
Mnemosyne
@Chris:
Oh, jeebus. You just had to remind me of the awkward conversation with my dad this summer where he earnestly explained to G and I that because Mussolini was a socialist first, that meant that fascism has socialist roots so therefore socialism and fascism are the exact same thing!
So if Mussolini weighed as much as a duck …
Mnemosyne
@Chris:
IIRC, Jews and Christians are both “people of the Book” (contrary to what some people seem to believe, the Torah and the Bible are also considered to be important works in Islam, though the Koran is supreme, and Muslims consider themselves descendants of Abraham). A conservative Muslim family might not be enthralled if their child married a Jew or Christian, but it wouldn’t be as big of a deal as it would be if they married, say, a Hindu or Buddhist.
El Cid
@Mnemosyne: I guess Mussolini writing and speaking on why he was not a soshullist and why Marx was wrong and there could be no class conflicts within nations (only between nations, since nations were giant superhuman organisms and thus for there to be internal conflict it represented only sickness) wouldn’t count for much.
A “soshullism” which declares that Marxian class conflict is impossible is sort of, you know, not usually considered “soshullism”.
Nancy Irving
Anthony Weiner is a Muslim Brotherhood operative?
Who knew?