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Wingnuts as Muse

by Dennis G.|  October 5, 201210:45 pm| 67 Comments

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<a href=”http://www.flickr.com/photos/67666123@N00/8058100951/” title=”3-tea-party-images by dengre, on Flickr”><img src=”http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8462/8058100951_ca25b1188f.jpg” width=”500″ height=”168″ alt=”3-tea-party-images”></a>
As I understand it a brand new conspiracy theory bloomed on Friday. This seems to happen whenever reality is at odds with the fantasies of conservatives/wingnuts/teabaggers/Republicans et al. (which means that it happens all the time). I thought I would put up a post about it, but then I ran into the wingnut inspired art over at Amorphia Apparel. There are several collections of excellent graphics and typography by Jeremy Kalgreen. The above images are part of his “I’m voting Tea Party” series. I think he needs to add some new designs based on the latest wingnut conspiracies like Obama controls all data, math and polls. That’s why I’m voting Tea Party. Fortunately he has a simple way to collect suggestions and requests.
His “Teach the Controversy” series also reminded me of the latest conspiracy theory and the she-said/he-said forced balanced approach that the media too often takes when confronted with this nonsense.  These wonderfully sarcastic designs have a science focus, but these controversies are not that different than the ones hyped by conservatives (and some are the same). Jeremy offers them as t-shirts, downloads for wallpaper and collected in an attractive poster:
<a href=”http://www.flickr.com/photos/67666123@N00/8058100853/” title=”teach_poster by dengre, on Flickr”><img src=”http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8320/8058100853_fcc6df3dba_z.jpg” width=”427″ height=”640″ alt=”teach_poster”></a>
I’m looking forward to mine coming in the mail. I had a lot of fun exploring Kalgreen’s work and site. The modern conservative movement is batshit crazy. They are a destructive force, but it was nice to see that they can also be a Muse.
I like Jeremy Kalgreen’s sense of design. There are several other series as well (Science, Monster of Grok, Sir Critter, Hirsute History and Amorphia). This one cracked me up:
<a href=”http://www.flickr.com/photos/67666123@N00/8058100895/” title=”nixon by dengre, on Flickr”><img src=”http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8316/8058100895_c0f4cabc65.jpg” width=”300″ height=”300″ alt=”nixon”></a>
And with that, how about an open thread.
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  1. 1.

    Baud

    October 5, 2012 at 10:46 pm

    No porn. No genitals. Sarah lied.

    I’m going to bed.

  2. 2.

    beltane

    October 5, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    I’m glad someone finally found a productive use for our wingnuts. It’s about time.

  3. 3.

    Mike E

    October 5, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Obama controls the weather also. Too.

  4. 4.

    danielx

    October 5, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    Suggestion:

    I’m an ignorant motherfucker and want and plan to stay that way.
    That’s why I’m voting TEA PARTY.

  5. 5.

    Dennis G.

    October 5, 2012 at 10:53 pm

    @Mike E: Weather control: Teach the Controversy

  6. 6.

    eemom

    October 5, 2012 at 10:58 pm

    eleventy-FOUR new threads.

    I mean, it’s none of my business and all, but do y’all not even notice when you’re stepping all over each other?

  7. 7.

    hilts

    October 5, 2012 at 11:06 pm

    Speaking of wingnuts –

    Rep. Paul Broun (R-GA) tore into scientists as tools of the devil in a speech at the Liberty Baptist Church Sportsman’s Banquet last month. “All that stuff I was taught about evolution and embryology and the Big Bang Theory, all that is lies straight from the pit of Hell,” Broun said. “And it’s lies to try to keep me and all the folks who were taught that from understanding that they need a savior.”

    h/t 2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/rep-paul-broun-r-ga-evolution-big-bang-lies-straight-from-the-pit…

  8. 8.

    Violet

    October 5, 2012 at 11:08 pm

    @Dennis G.: Thanks for the link. I’m going to buy some as Christmas gifts. I love, love, love the “Teach the Controversy” ones.

  9. 9.

    amk

    October 5, 2012 at 11:11 pm

    willard shot his last wad + still couldn’t make it count = latest poutrage

  10. 10.

    Violet

    October 5, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    @efgoldman: Cole posted a thread on it last night, plus on his Twitter feed, if you’d like to see more comments on it. Those people are crazy.

  11. 11.

    jurassicpork

    October 5, 2012 at 11:14 pm

    Get a load of this job ad that I actually saw on Craigslist today. The things they make you do for a fucking job these days is like a cross between George Orwell and Phillip K. Dick.

  12. 12.

    Violet

    October 5, 2012 at 11:16 pm

    @hilts: That man is also a doctor. You know, the medical doctor kind. How the hell do they reconcile the science they study at school with this crap?

  13. 13.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    October 5, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @eemom: I don’t care. I really, really want a new thread after discovering this I forget where, but it’s Facebook, so shut up:

    Beware of the GOP tricks to steal the election: In Puerto Rico, under a GOP administration (Executive, Legistlative, and Judicial branches ALL under GOP control with no checks and balances) has a passed a Voting Law that has enabled the Counties/Municipalities of the GOP commit fraudulent voting registrations. This law has enabled party-participants at the County/Municipal level to register the recently DECEASED, advanced ALZHEIMER’s patients, and the DOWN SYNDROME, AUTISTIC, and the like as eligible voters by MAIL/at HOME. In addition, students studying abroad and other residents that will traveling during the elections who depend on early voting are receiving PHOTOCOPIES of the BALLOTS, and not the actual ballots–the originals feared to be forged in favor of the current GOP administration to stay in power.

    And why should you care about what is happening in Puerto Rico? Because the governor IS one of the GOP Stars.

    This is so … so … what we should have all anticipated, I guess, since it’s the retro version of voter fraud, and here we go again.

  14. 14.

    Dennis G.

    October 5, 2012 at 11:20 pm

    @eemom: I tend to think an hour or so between posts is fine, but sometimes it is minutes. There really isn’t a system other than looking and waiting or just posting.

    So it goes.

  15. 15.

    Anya

    October 5, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    I know a guy, who knows a guy who’s cousin is an economist at BLS. You know what this means? Balloon Juice is implicated in this conspiracy. You don’t even want to think about how deep this goes.

  16. 16.

    Hill Dweller

    October 5, 2012 at 11:22 pm

    @amk: Obama still has to close strong.

    The good jobs report and Willard’s Big Bird nonsense changed the subject, but the O campaign has to earn their money in the next 30 days, and Obama needs two good debates.

    We’ll see how the next round of polls looks. I think Obama is still in a good position, but it would be nice to create some momentum for the down ticket races, as opposed to just holding on for the win.

  17. 17.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    October 5, 2012 at 11:23 pm

    @The Fat Kate Middleton: So I know I sound kind of crazy here, but does anyone else know what’s going on in PR? And if you want the link where I found this, I’ll go back and look for it.

  18. 18.

    amk

    October 5, 2012 at 11:24 pm

    @Mike E:

    Axelrod : I got that.

    Brutal summer heat yields to seasonable temps, just as election looms. Is it real, or rigged data from pro-Obama Weather Service?

  19. 19.

    YoohooCthulhu

    October 5, 2012 at 11:25 pm

    @Violet:

    reconcile the science they study at school with this crap?

    Science you learn in class bears little resemblance to applied science research–you’re given all the information and told “this is the way things work”. Doctors and engineers tend to be trained in this mindset–where everything is known and it’s just a matter of applying known techniques/information in the right way. If taken too literally, it means they tend to believe that there can be a single authority on everything.

    It’s the reason why research scientists tend to be liberal, where doctors and engineers swing somewhat conservative.

  20. 20.

    JGabriel

    October 5, 2012 at 11:32 pm

    __
    __
    How is it possible, in the wingnut mythform, that President Obama can be an evil conspiracy mastermind capable of warping in his favor the distribution of all information such as labor statistics and media reporting, yet still be a completely incompetent affirmative action hire who can only read from a teleprompter?

    .

  21. 21.

    Or something like that.Suffern Ace

    October 5, 2012 at 11:33 pm

    @The Fat Kate Middleton: It seems that this would be designed to keep the right in the governors mansion.

  22. 22.

    amk

    October 5, 2012 at 11:34 pm

    @YoohooCthulhu:

    BS. Doctors and engineers (I am one myself) don’t believe in re-inventing the wheel. But they are also constantly finding better ways of doing things. And research scientists are not a special species. Most of them come from medical or engineering background.

    And what any of that has to got do anything with their political philosophy ?

  23. 23.

    Wag

    October 5, 2012 at 11:37 pm

    I like the yellow bile, blood, phlegm and black bile meme.

  24. 24.

    MikeJ

    October 5, 2012 at 11:39 pm

    If I had talent and smarts I could make stuff that good.

  25. 25.

    jibeaux

    October 5, 2012 at 11:40 pm

    @The Fat Kate Middleton: I know it has ALL CAPS, but this seems like less than credible information.

  26. 26.

    WereBear

    October 5, 2012 at 11:42 pm

    @JGabriel: How is it possible, in the wingnut mythform, that President Obama can be an evil conspiracy mastermind capable of warping in his favor the distribution of all information such as labor statistics and media reporting, yet still be a completely incompetent affirmative action hire who can only read from a teleprompter?

    Because the part of the Wingnut brain which believes the first one is not the same part that believes the second one.

    And they don’t touch.

  27. 27.

    YoohooCthulhu

    October 5, 2012 at 11:44 pm

    @amk: Oh, I’m not saying all doctors/engineers are like that. But I’ve noticed they’re *slightly* more likely to have libertarian/conservative viewpoints than other similarly trained people (nurses, medical researchers, etc). Any explanation, of course, is being blown out my ass. I don’t have a good solid theory behind it.

    I suppose a better way of stating it is that not all science education is created equal. There are med/engineering schools that teach people to think independently and inquisitively push the bounds of their knowledge, and there are those that teach the subjects in a more wrote manner.

  28. 28.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    October 5, 2012 at 11:45 pm

    @Or something like that.Suffern Ace: Certainly. But what bothers me (and this guy, obviously) is the degradation of the vote in a place that should be operating under the rules of US democracy. Of all the awfulness that happened during the Bush years, what’s made me as insane as anything is that degradation. How is it that we have allowed, are continuing to allow, this to happen?

  29. 29.

    The Fat Kate Middleton

    October 5, 2012 at 11:47 pm

    So I asked those questions, but must go to sleep before I get answers. Up early for canvassing, etc. Bye…

  30. 30.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    October 5, 2012 at 11:52 pm

    @YoohooCthulhu: I tend to agree. For another perspective, you might look at the medical and engineering professions as a whole. It seems to me that they are inherently conservative, because of the significant consequences of innovation gone wrong.

    Generally people don’t die when scientists and researchers screw up. That happens later, during the implementation of the research, which is the province of engineers.

    Here’s how it works:

    A scientist, a mathematician, and an engineer were handed a red rubber ball and told to estimate its weight. The scientist dropped it in a bucket of water, measured the volume it displaced and by Archimede’s principle, determined its weight. The mathematician measured the diameter, calculated the volume, and determined its weight using the density of rubber. The engineer looked it up in his red rubber ball table.

  31. 31.

    ODB

    October 6, 2012 at 12:00 am

    Is that a time cube (square) i see?

  32. 32.

    amk

    October 6, 2012 at 12:01 am

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: yeah right, blame the engineer for not reinventing the wheel and doing it smarter and faster.

    An engineer dies and reports to the pearly gates. St. Peter checks his dossier and says, “Ah, you’re an engineer. You are in the wrong place.”

    So, the engineer reports to the gates of hell and is let in. Pretty soon, the engineer gets dissatisfied with the level of comfort in hell, and starts designing and building improvements. After a while, they’ve got air conditioning and flush toilets and escalators, and the engineer is a pretty popular guy.

    One day, God calls Satan up on the telephone and says with a sneer, “So, how’s it going down there in hell?”

    Satan replies, “Hey, things are going great. We’ve got air conditioning and flush toilets and escalators, and there’s no telling what this engineer is going to come up with next.”

    God replies, “What? You’ve got an engineer? That’s a mistake. He should never have gotten down there; send him up here.”

    Satan says, “No way.” I like having an engineer on the staff, and I’m keeping him.”

    God says, “Send him back up here or I’ll sue.”

    Satan laughs uproariously and answers, “Yeah, right. And just where are you going to get a lawyer?”

    Ha.

  33. 33.

    Santiago

    October 6, 2012 at 12:02 am

    Conspiracy you say?

    The Brits just sent Abu Hamza stateside.

    There is just not enough popcorn.

  34. 34.

    amk

    October 6, 2012 at 12:02 am

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason:

    And then there is always this.

    Three guys go down to Mexico one night, get drunk and wake up in jail. They find out that they’re to be executed for their crimes but none of them can remember what they have done.

    The first one is strapped in the electric chair and is asked if he has any last words. He says, “I am a priest and I believe in the almighty power of God to intervene on behalf of the innocent.” They throw the switch and nothing happens; so they figure God must not want this guy to die, and let him go.

    The second one is strapped in and gives his last words. “I am an attorney and I believe in the eternal power of Justice to intervene on the part of the innocent.” The switch is thrown and again nothing happens.

    Figuring the law is on this guy’s side, they let him go. The last one is strapped in and say’s “I’m an electrical engineer, and I’ll tell you right now, you’ll never electrocute anybody if you don’t connect those two wires.” God rest his soul.

  35. 35.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    October 6, 2012 at 12:06 am

    @amk: One of my all-time favorites. So, since this is an open thread:

    A priest, a doctor, and an engineer are playing golf, but unfortunately they’re following a foursome of blind golfers who are taking forever to play each hole. The priest says, “When I get back to the church I’ll say a prayer that God might restore their sight.” The doctor says, “When I get back to the office I’ll make some calls and get them into the eye clinic.” The engineer says, “Why can’t these guys play at night?”

  36. 36.

    amk

    October 6, 2012 at 12:08 am

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: LOL. A very valid question.

  37. 37.

    Capt. Seaweed

    October 6, 2012 at 12:13 am

    @eemom:

    I mean, it’s none of my business and all, but do y’all not even notice when you’re stepping all over each other?

    I rather like all the threads piled on top of each other. Plenty to read. Not too crowded. Having a choice in my posting options is important to me. Trying to end multiple posts and limit my choice is the first step to fascism. You don’t want that, do you?

  38. 38.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    October 6, 2012 at 12:18 am

    @Capt. Seaweed: If there weren’t new threads, she’d be complaining about *that*.

  39. 39.

    Mike G

    October 6, 2012 at 12:24 am

    @JGabriel:

    How is it possible, in the wingnut mythform, that President Obama can be an evil conspiracy mastermind capable of warping in his favor the distribution of all information such as labor statistics and media reporting, yet still be a completely incompetent affirmative action hire who can only read from a teleprompter?

    The same way he can simultaneously be a “fanatical secret Muslim” (sorry, “Muslin”) and zombie-programmed by Christian preacher Reverend Wright to destroy America, depending what day it is.

  40. 40.

    Capt. Seaweed

    October 6, 2012 at 12:26 am

    @The prophet Nostradumbass:
    I am new around here so I am not familiar with all the local internet traditions, but eemom does seem to find things to gripe about.

  41. 41.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2012 at 12:36 am

    @JGabriel:

    Illuminati.

  42. 42.

    opie jeanne

    October 6, 2012 at 12:45 am

    Upper right-hand corner on the poster is The Discworld. Yay!

  43. 43.

    gwangung

    October 6, 2012 at 12:45 am

    @Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason: Ahem. Salem Hypothesis.

    Long history behind it from talk.origins.

  44. 44.

    Dennis G.

    October 6, 2012 at 12:50 am

    @ODB: yep

  45. 45.

    eemom

    October 6, 2012 at 12:59 am

    @Capt. Seaweed:

    damn, and you were doing so nicely with your first witty riposte which made me giggle.

    And pssst…..a word to the wise, since you’re new around here: the aptly named dumbass has nothing better to do with his life than be my personal troll. How pathetic is that? You tell me.

  46. 46.

    Ellyn

    October 6, 2012 at 1:28 am

    Thanks for the tip. I’m ordering the Flat Earth one to wear when I’m registering voters. I like the hunt down homeless people one, too, but it’s a little too cruel to wear.

  47. 47.

    mdblanche

    October 6, 2012 at 1:32 am

    I have one of those shirts! Second row, second from the right.

  48. 48.

    Capt. Seaweed

    October 6, 2012 at 1:34 am

    @eemom:
    No offence intended. I haven’t completely figured out who hates whom on this blog yet, or who to trust or who might lead me to ruin. I’m not the hating type but it seems to me this blog has it’s fair share.

    I do not stalk. I don’t write well enough to troll. I’m not insecure enough or angry enough to Spatulaize. I don’t have an opinion on every. single. frickin. post like so many here do. I’m just here for the beer.

  49. 49.

    Yutsano

    October 6, 2012 at 1:40 am

    @Capt. Seaweed:

    I’m not insecure enough or angry enough to Spatulaize.

    I think I love you.

  50. 50.

    Violet

    October 6, 2012 at 1:42 am

    @opie jeanne: I’m getting that one as a gift for a Pratchett fan.

  51. 51.

    Violet

    October 6, 2012 at 1:46 am

    @Yutsano:

    I think I love you.

    So what am I so afraid of?

  52. 52.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    October 6, 2012 at 1:47 am

    @eemom: It seems that half the people here are your “personal troll”. Who’d you crib that from, was it Derf, or Spatula?

  53. 53.

    the Conster

    October 6, 2012 at 1:49 am

    @Santiago:

    Also too, Libyan terrorists suspected in the consulate attack detained in Turkey.

    Now we know why O was distracted. Debate? What debate? I was rounding up terrorists, bitchez!

  54. 54.

    Yutsano

    October 6, 2012 at 1:55 am

    @Violet: Gay marriage? It got the thumbs up in your fair burgh.

  55. 55.

    Violet

    October 6, 2012 at 2:01 am

    @Yutsano: I’m not in Austin, but I hadn’t heard that, so good for Austin!

    It’s a Partridge Family song lyric. Maybe it is talking about gay marriage, since the next line is:

    I’m afraid that I’m not sure of a love there is no cure for

    Hmmm…

  56. 56.

    Violet

    October 6, 2012 at 2:03 am

    @the Conster: Obama was taking out terrorists. Romney was taking out Big Bird.

  57. 57.

    Yutsano

    October 6, 2012 at 2:04 am

    @Violet: I thought you was. Mea culpa. I might reconsider doing IRS type things there now…

  58. 58.

    Jewish Steel

    October 6, 2012 at 2:18 am

    Deep thought of the night.

    My feeling is that in many important respects, our dog friends are more like us than different. Except in this; were I to slip a fish skin into your dinner, it probably would not make me your hero.

  59. 59.

    Violet

    October 6, 2012 at 2:20 am

    @Yutsano: Because I’m not there? Heh. Austin’s a fun city. Texas is a lot more blue in the larger cities than the image it has in other parts of the country. I mean, Houston has a lesbian mayor–that doesn’t fit the stereotype of Texas.

  60. 60.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    October 6, 2012 at 2:26 am

    @Violet:

    Obama was taking out terrorists. Romney was taking out Big Bird.

    Well done!

  61. 61.

    Yutsano

    October 6, 2012 at 2:45 am

    @Violet: I’m…gonna shut up now. :)

    (Not because I’m slinking away. I’m driving in the morning and have to get to bed. And that’s my story and I’m stickin’ to it!)

  62. 62.

    eemom

    October 6, 2012 at 2:59 am

    @The prophet Nostradumbass:

    No, actually, it’s pretty much just you and “xian” on a regular basis….plus one or two obscurities who crawl out of the woodwork occasionally to cover third place.

    So you see, the question remains as to why you’ve got nothing better to do with your life. But that’s between you and you.

  63. 63.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    October 6, 2012 at 3:28 am

    @eemom: I take a jab at you about once every two weeks or so, if that, and you freak out every single time. The percentage of my comments that refer to you, even indirectly, has to be under 1%, but here you are again, whining about it. Get a grip, you silly person.

  64. 64.

    Another Halocene Human

    October 6, 2012 at 4:22 am

    @amk: So what you’re saying is that you have no idea what you’re talking about.

  65. 65.

    Amir Khalid

    October 6, 2012 at 6:33 am

    @Violet:
    I recognize that classic too. Oh, that brings back memories of “rock legend” pop wannabe David Cassidy and his kid brother Keith (who was a Hardy Boy on TV).

  66. 66.

    AlienRadio

    October 6, 2012 at 7:15 am

    Yay Time Cube Tshirt.

  67. 67.

    Tyro

    October 6, 2012 at 9:54 am

    And research scientists are not a special species. Most of them come from medical or engineering background.

    That’s true. The people with an engineering background content with making good money went straight into an engineering job, and the ones who had a more inquisitive and research-oriented nature went to get PhDs and became research scientists. And politically, the engineering rank and file lean conservative and the engineering professors lean liberal.

    This is true about creationists– creationists claiming to be “scientists” are almost invariably engineers.

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