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And as for compensation, there’s a little he would ask

by DougJ|  October 10, 201211:22 am| 62 Comments

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  1. 1.

    2liberal

    October 10, 2012 at 11:29 am

    Is this an open thread? If not , then:

    OT: blogroll

    you should clean up the blogroll. there are lots of obsolete links over there. If I send a list of invalid entries, can someone in charge delete those entries?

  2. 2.

    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ

    October 10, 2012 at 11:32 am

    @2liberal:

    I’ll work all that out after the election.

  3. 3.

    Ann Rynd

    October 10, 2012 at 11:32 am

    I stopped watching Morning Joe last week after the debate because I knew I wouldn’t be able to stand the glibness and the gloating by the host and the silence of the sycophants surrounding him. Officially switched to Solidad O’Brien today and she’s amazing. Ten times smarter than Joe or Mika and not afraid to call bullshit. And that prick Mark Halperin is nowhere in sight with his creepy twisted mouth.

  4. 4.

    LGRooney

    October 10, 2012 at 11:33 am

    In Green News:

    A key western congressman declared late last week that Mitt Romney supports his push to “reverse this trend of public ownership of lands.”

    In a speech to the Colorado Conservative Political Action Conference, Rep. Steve Pearce (R-NM) criticized Teddy Roosevelt’s “big ideas of big forests and big national parks,” which primarily exist in the West. Pearce told the audience that, if elected, Mitt Romney will help turn back public lands to the states or private entities.

  5. 5.

    Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ

    October 10, 2012 at 11:34 am

    @Ann Rynd:

    I like Soledad too.

  6. 6.

    Alexandra

    October 10, 2012 at 11:34 am

    Thank you for posting something, anything, that’s not related either directly or tangentially, to the first debate which happened almost an entire week ago.

    Time to change the record.

  7. 7.

    SenyorDave

    October 10, 2012 at 11:36 am

    @LGRooney: I was in Colorado and New Mexico last month, and when I was driving in southern Colorado all I could think about was I wish to hell someone would strip mine those mountains and cut down those trees, they’re such an eyesore.

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    October 10, 2012 at 11:40 am

    @SenyorDave: They do get in the way of the view.

  9. 9.

    ding dong

    October 10, 2012 at 11:40 am

    @Ann Rynd:Barnicle and the rest are too chicken to push back on Scarborough s crap lest they not be called back.

  10. 10.

    rlrr

    October 10, 2012 at 11:44 am

    @SenyorDave:

    Conservatives won’t be happy until the whole country (outside their gated communities) is nothing but industrial slag heaps for as far as the eye can see.

  11. 11.

    Scott S.

    October 10, 2012 at 11:44 am

    @LGRooney: I’ve known a fairly small number of people in Western states (like New Mexico or Colorado that have lots of beautiful forests) who complain about the forests and talk about how much they want to get rid of them.

    I have no idea what’s wrong with those people, or how it is that they usually end up as legislators or in some other influential position.

  12. 12.

    mdblanche

    October 10, 2012 at 11:49 am

    @LGRooney: Weren’t those forests and national parks created out of land that was already public?

  13. 13.

    eric

    October 10, 2012 at 11:51 am

    Not another dime to Obama (R-lite) until drone flights over yugoslavia and the soviet union are stopped.

  14. 14.

    blingee

    October 10, 2012 at 11:52 am

    Seems to me there is something fishy going on. Apart from some coverage on Friday when the jobs report came out, even half of that was talking about the ridiculous “are the books cooked by the Chicago thug” horseshit.

    Now there is zero talk of the jobs report but the debate chatter continues. WTF? The jobs report is much more important than the debate. Also on Google News I am seeing stories from 5 days ago talking about the debate popping up at the top of my list. Any new negative Obama story about the debate from foreign sources which is just a rehash of last weeks stories goes right to the top of my list. It’s not my settings because I have them all at defaults. I even added a setting to de-emphasis politics but it doesn’t seem to matter. Of course I also have a setting to never show any stories from Fox News or Fox Nation. That is something I just automatically set up on every computer I am on.

    Additionally, I notice lots of troll accounts springing to life on the orange satan (dkos) saying how we are doomed and everyone should just give up. That site has always had lots of trolls but this seems a bit more coordinated to me.

  15. 15.

    Tom Levenson

    October 10, 2012 at 11:54 am

    Tossed in yesterday, tossed in today.

    I’ve hit the full superstitious mode; you want good luck, gotta toss a coin in the hat as you go by….

  16. 16.

    Poopyman

    October 10, 2012 at 11:54 am

    @eric: Francis Gary Powers only wishes they had been drone flights.

  17. 17.

    Joel

    October 10, 2012 at 11:55 am

    @Blingee the debate chatter goes on because vapid commentary can sound reasonable in the context of the debate. Few in the TV business even understand how job reports work, so voila.

  18. 18.

    burnspbesq

    October 10, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Here’s Ohio’s cert petition in the early voting case.

    http://www.scotusblog.com/2012/10/ohio-asks-to-curb-early-voting/

  19. 19.

    wrb

    October 10, 2012 at 11:59 am

    @LGRooney:

    A key western congressman declared late last week that Mitt Romney supports his push to “reverse this trend of public ownership of lands.”

    This is my pet conspiracy theory.

    What is the secret way that Mitt will balance the budget that he won’t tell us about until after the election?

    Privatize the public assets. It is the Vulture Capitalist’s solution. Chop up the holding and sell off the underperforming and undervalued assets. National parks and forests, BLM lands, the continental shelf, the patents held by the NIH and NASA.

    Wall Street will make a fortune larger than any previously imagined from handling the sales.

    The .1% will end up owning the national commons.

  20. 20.

    eric

    October 10, 2012 at 12:00 pm

    @Poopyman: not surprising that Powers is no longer with his … the long arm of the Chicago thugs….so called “pilot error”…Mena II.

  21. 21.

    The Bearded Blogger

    October 10, 2012 at 12:02 pm

    @blingee: It’s up to OFA and dems in generla to keep the jobs report in the news… also good news on the debt front…

  22. 22.

    KG

    October 10, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    @wrb: I like this plan if it means selling Alabama and Mississippi to either Spain or France. I would also be fine with selling Texas to the highest bidder, with preference to one of the other “six flags”

  23. 23.

    SatanicPanic

    October 10, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    @LGRooney: Some people are just failed humans. We should ship that guy of to North Korea.

  24. 24.

    blingee

    October 10, 2012 at 12:03 pm

    @wrb: Fortunately there are checks and balances and it would have to go through the senate and house. If R’s get all 3 then yea, we are fucked but I seriously doubt they will.

  25. 25.

    burnspbesq

    October 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    Interesting piece about Chinese cell phone manufacturers building back doors into their products.

    http://www.lawfareblog.com/2012/10/huawei-zte-and-cots/

    What’s the over-under, in hours, until Greenwald publishes a column saying that of course every cell phone on earth has a backdoor and law enforcement and intelligence agencies have the keys, and it’s all Obama’s fault because he’s worse than Bush?

  26. 26.

    lamh35

    October 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    President Obama was on the Tom Joyner Morning Show this morning (for those white people who have no idea who that is, I’ve mentioned him before, so just google him for more more info if you care). Here’s the audio: http://www.blackamericaweb.com/content/president-barack-obama-tjms
    A bit of what he said:

    President Obama admits he was too polite to Romney during the debate.
    Gov. Romney made a lot of mistakes during the campaign which made people feel a little complacent.
    It’s good we have a lead. He lost one game and we’re in for the long haul. He says stay focused.
    Says he thinks Biden will be terrific in the debate tomorrow.

    Anyway, he also said:

    I know y’all have seen the email that’s gone around and I can’t quote the whole thing but………………….I’ve got this

  27. 27.

    Kirbster

    October 10, 2012 at 12:04 pm

    @wrb:

    My favorite conspiracy theory as well. But The Wall Street firms will only be the front men for the real owners, who will mostly be non-American, buried under a mountain of shell corporations.

  28. 28.

    The Bearded Blogger

    October 10, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    @wrb: Sounds reasonable… and scary

  29. 29.

    eric

    October 10, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    @KG: that is some seriously crazy shit that you think spanairds and the french are dumb enough to pay us for the right to get alabama and mississippi. ;)

  30. 30.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 10, 2012 at 12:07 pm

    Crazy British Drama Queen is back where he belongs, I am glad to see. BTW I have theory about his freakout, he recently moved to NYC from DC, as someone who has moved many times, I know how disruptive moves can be, may be that’s why he was extra dramatic.

  31. 31.

    LGRooney

    October 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    @wrb: I like it. I’ll run with it.

  32. 32.

    quannlace

    October 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm

    who complain about the forests and talk about how much they want to get rid of them.

    Like somebody who has always wanted to move out to the country, and when they finally do, they complain about all those noisy, smelly farms.

  33. 33.

    Raven

    October 10, 2012 at 12:12 pm

    @lamh35: You mean the guy that left the Commodore’s? Whoa Ho Ho Ho!

  34. 34.

    PeakVT

    October 10, 2012 at 12:14 pm

    @blingee: There’s been an influx of concern/doom trolls here, too, all saying just about the same thing. It’s a planned operation.

  35. 35.

    Tractarian

    October 10, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    @lamh35:

    “I know y’all have seen the email that’s gone around and I can’t quote the whole thing but………………….I’ve got this

    Here’s a 2012 version.

  36. 36.

    Maude

    October 10, 2012 at 12:16 pm

    @Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ:
    How about working on the blog roll after the 2016 election. What a boring task.
    Got a NYS Red Delicious apple at the supermarket today. Must have been a good crop for them to sell in NJ.

  37. 37.

    kay

    October 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    @burnspbesq:

    It’s nuts here. Husted is issuing vague directives to county boards.

    I love the conservative argument. Early voting in the last three days is too expensive. Every single one of their voting law changes and directive changes and absentee ballot changes cost. It would have been much cheaper to just leave the 2008 scheme in place.

    If Ohio is close, expect a massive legal battle over right church/wrong pew provisional ballots. Provisional balloting is the part of the system that fails, and that will become obvious if it’s a close race. It’s been failing, consistently. It just hasn’t mattered that much. Yet.

  38. 38.

    lamh35

    October 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    @Raven: man one of my favorite bits. I remember round the time Lionel Ritchie was promoting his latest album. Whenever Lionel and Tom get together, the Tuskegee memories fly by and alot of Commodores trash talking ensues…lol

  39. 39.

    Joel

    October 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I wonder if Sully is bipolar, or at least hypomanic. This isn’t the first bizarre freak out he’s had.

  40. 40.

    jwb

    October 10, 2012 at 12:17 pm

    @rlrr: You’re presuming conservatives can ever be happy.

  41. 41.

    blingee

    October 10, 2012 at 12:18 pm

    @KG: I’m sure Mexico would be very interested in buying Arizona and Texas.

  42. 42.

    Raven

    October 10, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    @lamh35: Wasn’t it Tom’s MIL that said, “you need to get away from those guys, especially that loser Lionel”?

  43. 43.

    schrodinger's cat

    October 10, 2012 at 12:21 pm

    @Joel: Yes we all remember Trig’s mystery birth related meltdown in the 2008 cycle.

  44. 44.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    October 10, 2012 at 12:22 pm

    @SenyorDave:

    I was in Colorado and New Mexico last month, and when I was driving in southern Colorado all I could think about was I wish to hell someone would strip mine those mountains and cut down those trees, they’re such an eyesore

    __
    The thing which strikes me when traveling thru the same forests is that thanks to global warming the ponderosa pine belt between elevations of 7000 and 9000 feet is doomed. I’ve never seen such a regionally extensive set of drought-stressed and diseased or dead-standing timber before. One of these years we’re going to have forest fires the likes of which we haven’t seen since 1910 in those forests, only this time around it will hit with 10x as much population and property exposed.

    And of course when this happens the state and federal govts will absorb all the costs of fighting the fires in order to save private property. Privatize profits and socialize losses!

  45. 45.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    October 10, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    @wrb:

    Privatize the public assets. It is the Vulture Capitalist’s solution. Chop up the holding and sell off the underperforming and undervalued assets. National parks and forests, BLM lands, the continental shelf, the patents held by the NIH and NASA.

    And the Social Security funds to Wall Street, also, too. And much higher interest rates, so that the money flows in the preferred direction (ie, upwards).

    Call it the Great American Harvest. Rolls off the tongue better.

  46. 46.

    Raven

    October 10, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: I remember miles and mile of dead pines from the pine beetle in the Blue Ridge not so long ago.

  47. 47.

    Maude

    October 10, 2012 at 12:26 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:
    You are right. People with tons of money seem to ignore nature and build near dangerous places.

  48. 48.

    wrb

    October 10, 2012 at 12:27 pm

    @Kirbster:

    The Wall Street firms will only be the front men for the real owners, who will mostly be non-American, buried under a mountain of shell corporations.

    How will Fox etc. explain why it is actually good that Mitt is selling America to the Moooslims and Russians?

    It means capitalism defeated communism and Islam, since we’ve made them into capitalists?

  49. 49.

    The Moar You Know

    October 10, 2012 at 12:29 pm

    What’s the over-under, in hours, until Greenwald publishes a column saying that of course every cell phone on earth has a backdoor and law enforcement and intelligence agencies have the keys, and it’s all Obama’s fault because he’s worse than Bush?

    @burnspbesq: He’s got a bit of a head start living in Brazil, so I’ll go with 3.

    Notwithstanding Greenwald, who has never had anything of importance to say, the backdoors are real and present in every cell phone and computer today. I don’t know what you do about that save move to the mountains and abandon civilization completely.

  50. 50.

    wrb

    October 10, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    One of these years we’re going to have forest fires the likes of which we haven’t seen since 1910 in those forests, only this time around it will hit with 10x as much population and property exposed.

    The doug fir zone is getting ready to explode into flame too.

    The coastal redwoods will probably survive as fog seems to be increasing (hot air rising inland pulls moist air off the ocean).

  51. 51.

    Ann Rynd

    October 10, 2012 at 12:35 pm

    Sully wants what he wants when he wants it. When that doesn’t happen he short circuits and has to take a break to fan his nerve cells down. He has flawed wiring. I feel sorry for his husband.

  52. 52.

    Tractarian

    October 10, 2012 at 12:40 pm

    From the “Reasons Not To Freak Out” file:

    Swing state polling continues to show that Romney’s debate bounce was just that, a bounce.

    Rasmussen shows Obama up 11 (!) in NM, while Survey USA shows Obama ahead by 1 in OH and NV. The NM poll was taken on one day, 10/8. On the other hand, the SurveyUSA polls were taken over the course of a week, and so they contain the full measure of Romney’s bounce, such as it was.

    So it appears that Romney, even on the absolute best week of his campaign, cannot pull into a lead in NV and OH. Why is this important? Because if Obama takes NV and OH, he can lose all the other swing states and still win the election.

    Romney supporters should be worried about this. Even at his peak, he can’t get to 270. Looks like Mitt will need another couple more poor Obama debate performances to win.

  53. 53.

    lamh35

    October 10, 2012 at 12:42 pm

    So Romney’s been using a new addition to his stump speech on Libya. He recalls that him and Ann met the ex-Seal that was one of the victims in the Benghazi attack. First, I figured this is way too convenient, someone musta reminded Romney that they met an then figures hey let’s put that in the stump speech. Well then a friend of the slain ex-Seal told a local radio show that he remembered the tale of the Romney meeting in a different light as told to him by his slain friend. Here’s the link to that story: http://t.co/qurUZo23

    Well now this, the mother of the Seal has spoken out:
    “Mother of killed former SEAL mentioned by Romney says “I don’t trust Romney”

    “I don’t trust Romney. He shouldn’t make my son’s death part of his political agenda. It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama,” said Barbara Doherty, Glen’s mother.

    Read more: http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/12008755850115/mother-of-navy-seal-killed-in-libya-speaks-out/#ixzz28unkdJvr

  54. 54.

    beltane

    October 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    @PeakVT: I’ve noticed the same thing both here and at Dkos. The Republicans are good at exploiting every possible vulnerability of their enemies and psychological warfare is one of their tricks. People who should know better really ought to stop falling for this.

  55. 55.

    Tractarian

    October 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    BTW, looks like Sully got up on the right side of the bed today. He appears to have finally realized that there’s really not much point in continuing to wail and gnash teeth about last week’s debate. Better off picking apart Mitt’s various lies. That’s fertile ground.

  56. 56.

    blingee

    October 10, 2012 at 12:44 pm

    @The Bearded Blogger: Well no actually it’s up to the MSM. Dems and OFA are running ads nonstop. If the MSM won’t go along there is nothing they can do about it.

  57. 57.

    beltane

    October 10, 2012 at 12:45 pm

    @lamh35: Thanks for that reminder of Romney’s fundamental douchebaggery and unworthiness as a human being.

  58. 58.

    The Bearded Blogger

    October 10, 2012 at 12:47 pm

    @blingee: well, the behaviour of the MSM is a given… dem campaigns need to work to set the narrative. Yeah, the playing field is not level, but we still gotta win

  59. 59.

    Tractarian

    October 10, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    @lamh35:

    Obama has always said that he doesn’t like, and isn’t good at, feigning emotion.

    That’s too bad. Because you know Mitt is going to attack on Libya in the next two debates. And all Obama would need to do is look sad, say “Chris Stevens was a good man. Chris Stevens was a friend of mine.” and bite his lower lip once or twice. That would be debate gold. I wonder if he’s up to it.

  60. 60.

    lamh35

    October 10, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    @Tractarian: he speech when the bodies were brought back from Libya was heartfelt.

    I can see him saying, that he was there when does bodies were brought home to their families and he spoke to every family member and he knows the true cost of his actions not supposition and then tell Romney off as you said

  61. 61.

    notoriousJRT

    October 10, 2012 at 2:56 pm

    @eric:

    If Romney wins, write back to us on how that works out for you. Meanwhile we will do our best to keep calm and carry on without you.

  62. 62.

    JMS

    October 10, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    I threw in some cash for the first time this cycle. I didn’t earlier because I was unemployed (thankfully I’m now working again) and frankly, Obama doesn’t really need my money. But these contributions are emotionally driven, and so here’s my FU to Sully and his ilk (I say that with love).

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