Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

White supremacy is terrorism.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

Republicans choose power over democracy, every day.

We can’t confuse what’s necessary to win elections with the policies that we want to implement when we do.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

The media handbook says “controversial” is the most negative description that can be used for a Republican.

Boeing: repeatedly making the case for high speed rail.

Giving up is unforgivable.

I am pretty sure these ‘journalists’ were not always such a bootlicking sycophants.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

Disagreements are healthy; personal attacks are not.

If a good thing happens for a bad reason, it’s still a good thing.

When someone says they “love freedom”, rest assured they don’t mean yours.

’Where will you hide, Roberts, the laws all being flat?’

Usually wrong but never in doubt

… gradually, and then suddenly.

The real work of an opposition party is to oppose.

Why is it so hard for them to condemn hate?

Cancel the cowardly Times and Post and set up an equivalent monthly donation to ProPublica.

Those who are easily outraged are easily manipulated.

When you’re a Republican, they let you do it.

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  1. 1.

    2liberal

    Is this an open thread? If not , then:

    OT: blogroll

    you should clean up the blogroll. there are lots of obsolete links over there. If I send a list of invalid entries, can someone in charge delete those entries?

  3. 3.

    Ann Rynd

    I stopped watching Morning Joe last week after the debate because I knew I wouldn’t be able to stand the glibness and the gloating by the host and the silence of the sycophants surrounding him. Officially switched to Solidad O’Brien today and she’s amazing. Ten times smarter than Joe or Mika and not afraid to call bullshit. And that prick Mark Halperin is nowhere in sight with his creepy twisted mouth.

  4. 4.

    LGRooney

    In Green News:

    A key western congressman declared late last week that Mitt Romney supports his push to “reverse this trend of public ownership of lands.”

    In a speech to the Colorado Conservative Political Action Conference, Rep. Steve Pearce (R-NM) criticized Teddy Roosevelt’s “big ideas of big forests and big national parks,” which primarily exist in the West. Pearce told the audience that, if elected, Mitt Romney will help turn back public lands to the states or private entities.

  6. 6.

    Alexandra

    Thank you for posting something, anything, that’s not related either directly or tangentially, to the first debate which happened almost an entire week ago.

    Time to change the record.

  7. 7.

    SenyorDave

    @LGRooney: I was in Colorado and New Mexico last month, and when I was driving in southern Colorado all I could think about was I wish to hell someone would strip mine those mountains and cut down those trees, they’re such an eyesore.

  11. 11.

    Scott S.

    @LGRooney: I’ve known a fairly small number of people in Western states (like New Mexico or Colorado that have lots of beautiful forests) who complain about the forests and talk about how much they want to get rid of them.

    I have no idea what’s wrong with those people, or how it is that they usually end up as legislators or in some other influential position.

  13. 13.

    eric

    Not another dime to Obama (R-lite) until drone flights over yugoslavia and the soviet union are stopped.

  14. 14.

    blingee

    Seems to me there is something fishy going on. Apart from some coverage on Friday when the jobs report came out, even half of that was talking about the ridiculous “are the books cooked by the Chicago thug” horseshit.

    Now there is zero talk of the jobs report but the debate chatter continues. WTF? The jobs report is much more important than the debate. Also on Google News I am seeing stories from 5 days ago talking about the debate popping up at the top of my list. Any new negative Obama story about the debate from foreign sources which is just a rehash of last weeks stories goes right to the top of my list. It’s not my settings because I have them all at defaults. I even added a setting to de-emphasis politics but it doesn’t seem to matter. Of course I also have a setting to never show any stories from Fox News or Fox Nation. That is something I just automatically set up on every computer I am on.

    Additionally, I notice lots of troll accounts springing to life on the orange satan (dkos) saying how we are doomed and everyone should just give up. That site has always had lots of trolls but this seems a bit more coordinated to me.

  15. 15.

    Tom Levenson

    Tossed in yesterday, tossed in today.

    I’ve hit the full superstitious mode; you want good luck, gotta toss a coin in the hat as you go by….

  17. 17.

    Joel

    @Blingee the debate chatter goes on because vapid commentary can sound reasonable in the context of the debate. Few in the TV business even understand how job reports work, so voila.

  19. 19.

    wrb

    @LGRooney:

    A key western congressman declared late last week that Mitt Romney supports his push to “reverse this trend of public ownership of lands.”

    This is my pet conspiracy theory.

    What is the secret way that Mitt will balance the budget that he won’t tell us about until after the election?

    Privatize the public assets. It is the Vulture Capitalist’s solution. Chop up the holding and sell off the underperforming and undervalued assets. National parks and forests, BLM lands, the continental shelf, the patents held by the NIH and NASA.

    Wall Street will make a fortune larger than any previously imagined from handling the sales.

    The .1% will end up owning the national commons.

  21. 21.

    The Bearded Blogger

    @blingee: It’s up to OFA and dems in generla to keep the jobs report in the news… also good news on the debt front…

  22. 22.

    KG

    @wrb: I like this plan if it means selling Alabama and Mississippi to either Spain or France. I would also be fine with selling Texas to the highest bidder, with preference to one of the other “six flags”

  24. 24.

    blingee

    @wrb: Fortunately there are checks and balances and it would have to go through the senate and house. If R’s get all 3 then yea, we are fucked but I seriously doubt they will.

  25. 25.

    burnspbesq

    Interesting piece about Chinese cell phone manufacturers building back doors into their products.

    http://www.lawfareblog.com/2012/10/huawei-zte-and-cots/

    What’s the over-under, in hours, until Greenwald publishes a column saying that of course every cell phone on earth has a backdoor and law enforcement and intelligence agencies have the keys, and it’s all Obama’s fault because he’s worse than Bush?

  26. 26.

    lamh35

    President Obama was on the Tom Joyner Morning Show this morning (for those white people who have no idea who that is, I’ve mentioned him before, so just google him for more more info if you care). Here’s the audio: http://www.blackamericaweb.com/content/president-barack-obama-tjms
    A bit of what he said:

    President Obama admits he was too polite to Romney during the debate.
    Gov. Romney made a lot of mistakes during the campaign which made people feel a little complacent.
    It’s good we have a lead. He lost one game and we’re in for the long haul. He says stay focused.
    Says he thinks Biden will be terrific in the debate tomorrow.

    Anyway, he also said:

    I know y’all have seen the email that’s gone around and I can’t quote the whole thing but………………….I’ve got this

  27. 27.

    Kirbster

    @wrb:

    My favorite conspiracy theory as well. But The Wall Street firms will only be the front men for the real owners, who will mostly be non-American, buried under a mountain of shell corporations.

  29. 29.

    eric

    @KG: that is some seriously crazy shit that you think spanairds and the french are dumb enough to pay us for the right to get alabama and mississippi. ;)

  30. 30.

    schrodinger's cat

    Crazy British Drama Queen is back where he belongs, I am glad to see. BTW I have theory about his freakout, he recently moved to NYC from DC, as someone who has moved many times, I know how disruptive moves can be, may be that’s why he was extra dramatic.

  32. 32.

    quannlace

    who complain about the forests and talk about how much they want to get rid of them.

    Like somebody who has always wanted to move out to the country, and when they finally do, they complain about all those noisy, smelly farms.

  37. 37.

    kay

    @burnspbesq:

    It’s nuts here. Husted is issuing vague directives to county boards.

    I love the conservative argument. Early voting in the last three days is too expensive. Every single one of their voting law changes and directive changes and absentee ballot changes cost. It would have been much cheaper to just leave the 2008 scheme in place.

    If Ohio is close, expect a massive legal battle over right church/wrong pew provisional ballots. Provisional balloting is the part of the system that fails, and that will become obvious if it’s a close race. It’s been failing, consistently. It just hasn’t mattered that much. Yet.

  38. 38.

    lamh35

    @Raven: man one of my favorite bits. I remember round the time Lionel Ritchie was promoting his latest album. Whenever Lionel and Tom get together, the Tuskegee memories fly by and alot of Commodores trash talking ensues…lol

  44. 44.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    @SenyorDave:

    I was in Colorado and New Mexico last month, and when I was driving in southern Colorado all I could think about was I wish to hell someone would strip mine those mountains and cut down those trees, they’re such an eyesore

    __
    The thing which strikes me when traveling thru the same forests is that thanks to global warming the ponderosa pine belt between elevations of 7000 and 9000 feet is doomed. I’ve never seen such a regionally extensive set of drought-stressed and diseased or dead-standing timber before. One of these years we’re going to have forest fires the likes of which we haven’t seen since 1910 in those forests, only this time around it will hit with 10x as much population and property exposed.

    And of course when this happens the state and federal govts will absorb all the costs of fighting the fires in order to save private property. Privatize profits and socialize losses!

  45. 45.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    @wrb:

    Privatize the public assets. It is the Vulture Capitalist’s solution. Chop up the holding and sell off the underperforming and undervalued assets. National parks and forests, BLM lands, the continental shelf, the patents held by the NIH and NASA.

    And the Social Security funds to Wall Street, also, too. And much higher interest rates, so that the money flows in the preferred direction (ie, upwards).

    Call it the Great American Harvest. Rolls off the tongue better.

  48. 48.

    wrb

    @Kirbster:

    The Wall Street firms will only be the front men for the real owners, who will mostly be non-American, buried under a mountain of shell corporations.

    How will Fox etc. explain why it is actually good that Mitt is selling America to the Moooslims and Russians?

    It means capitalism defeated communism and Islam, since we’ve made them into capitalists?

  49. 49.

    The Moar You Know

    What’s the over-under, in hours, until Greenwald publishes a column saying that of course every cell phone on earth has a backdoor and law enforcement and intelligence agencies have the keys, and it’s all Obama’s fault because he’s worse than Bush?

    @burnspbesq: He’s got a bit of a head start living in Brazil, so I’ll go with 3.

    Notwithstanding Greenwald, who has never had anything of importance to say, the backdoors are real and present in every cell phone and computer today. I don’t know what you do about that save move to the mountains and abandon civilization completely.

  50. 50.

    wrb

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:

    One of these years we’re going to have forest fires the likes of which we haven’t seen since 1910 in those forests, only this time around it will hit with 10x as much population and property exposed.

    The doug fir zone is getting ready to explode into flame too.

    The coastal redwoods will probably survive as fog seems to be increasing (hot air rising inland pulls moist air off the ocean).

  51. 51.

    Ann Rynd

    Sully wants what he wants when he wants it. When that doesn’t happen he short circuits and has to take a break to fan his nerve cells down. He has flawed wiring. I feel sorry for his husband.

  52. 52.

    Tractarian

    From the “Reasons Not To Freak Out” file:

    Swing state polling continues to show that Romney’s debate bounce was just that, a bounce.

    Rasmussen shows Obama up 11 (!) in NM, while Survey USA shows Obama ahead by 1 in OH and NV. The NM poll was taken on one day, 10/8. On the other hand, the SurveyUSA polls were taken over the course of a week, and so they contain the full measure of Romney’s bounce, such as it was.

    So it appears that Romney, even on the absolute best week of his campaign, cannot pull into a lead in NV and OH. Why is this important? Because if Obama takes NV and OH, he can lose all the other swing states and still win the election.

    Romney supporters should be worried about this. Even at his peak, he can’t get to 270. Looks like Mitt will need another couple more poor Obama debate performances to win.

  53. 53.

    lamh35

    So Romney’s been using a new addition to his stump speech on Libya. He recalls that him and Ann met the ex-Seal that was one of the victims in the Benghazi attack. First, I figured this is way too convenient, someone musta reminded Romney that they met an then figures hey let’s put that in the stump speech. Well then a friend of the slain ex-Seal told a local radio show that he remembered the tale of the Romney meeting in a different light as told to him by his slain friend. Here’s the link to that story: http://t.co/qurUZo23

    Well now this, the mother of the Seal has spoken out:
    “Mother of killed former SEAL mentioned by Romney says “I don’t trust Romney”

    “I don’t trust Romney. He shouldn’t make my son’s death part of his political agenda. It’s wrong to use these brave young men, who wanted freedom for all, to degrade Obama,” said Barbara Doherty, Glen’s mother.

    Read more: http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/boston/12008755850115/mother-of-navy-seal-killed-in-libya-speaks-out/#ixzz28unkdJvr

  54. 54.

    beltane

    @PeakVT: I’ve noticed the same thing both here and at Dkos. The Republicans are good at exploiting every possible vulnerability of their enemies and psychological warfare is one of their tricks. People who should know better really ought to stop falling for this.

  55. 55.

    Tractarian

    BTW, looks like Sully got up on the right side of the bed today. He appears to have finally realized that there’s really not much point in continuing to wail and gnash teeth about last week’s debate. Better off picking apart Mitt’s various lies. That’s fertile ground.

  58. 58.

    The Bearded Blogger

    @blingee: well, the behaviour of the MSM is a given… dem campaigns need to work to set the narrative. Yeah, the playing field is not level, but we still gotta win

  59. 59.

    Tractarian

    @lamh35:

    Obama has always said that he doesn’t like, and isn’t good at, feigning emotion.

    That’s too bad. Because you know Mitt is going to attack on Libya in the next two debates. And all Obama would need to do is look sad, say “Chris Stevens was a good man. Chris Stevens was a friend of mine.” and bite his lower lip once or twice. That would be debate gold. I wonder if he’s up to it.

  60. 60.

    lamh35

    @Tractarian: he speech when the bodies were brought back from Libya was heartfelt.

    I can see him saying, that he was there when does bodies were brought home to their families and he spoke to every family member and he knows the true cost of his actions not supposition and then tell Romney off as you said

  61. 61.

    notoriousJRT

    @eric:

    If Romney wins, write back to us on how that works out for you. Meanwhile we will do our best to keep calm and carry on without you.

  62. 62.

    JMS

    I threw in some cash for the first time this cycle. I didn’t earlier because I was unemployed (thankfully I’m now working again) and frankly, Obama doesn’t really need my money. But these contributions are emotionally driven, and so here’s my FU to Sully and his ilk (I say that with love).

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