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Morning Open Thread

by Soonergrunt|  October 17, 20128:14 am| 98 Comments

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Have at it!

It’s a great morning to be a Democrat.  All the wingers in my stream on facebook are having a sad this morning.  You know your candidate has a problem with truth telling when he gets fact checked by the moderator in the middle of the debate.  Rmoney claimed that Obama never called it terrorism or an act of terror for 14 days, when in fact he used those words the next day.

In addition to using the phrase “act of terror” in the Rose Garden announcement of 12 September, the President got very explicit on the 13th of September at a speech in Colorado:

So what I want all of you to know is that we are going to bring those who killed our fellow Americans to justice.  (Applause.)  I want people around the world to hear me:  To all those who would do us harm, no act of terror will go unpunished. It will not dim the light of the values that we proudly present to the rest of the world.  No act of violence shakes the resolve of the United States of America.  (Applause.)

God, Rmoney is a disgusting human being.

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  1. 1.

    Punchy

    October 17, 2012 at 8:17 am

    Angry uppity Black thug berates and insults kind old religious white man…..more at 10pm.

  2. 2.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2012 at 8:18 am

    more at 10pm.

    There’s another debate tonight? Great!

  3. 3.

    Schlemizel

    October 17, 2012 at 8:18 am

    During the primaries I read a story about how Ann hated campaigning, how the stress caused her MS to flair up and how she really didn’t want Willard to run.

    I responded in the last thread to a post by Kay that this might be the cause of the expression she wore during the debate. I wanted to find some of those stories but the googles are failing me. Does anyone have links to these things?

    Maybe it was just a wingnut smear campaign but I’d like to find one or two of them.

  4. 4.

    Chyron HR

    October 17, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Debate? I saw a black guy savagely beating a white man and assumed it was The Wire.

  5. 5.

    Cassidy

    October 17, 2012 at 8:20 am

    I went to bed early last night.

  6. 6.

    max

    October 17, 2012 at 8:21 am

    All the wingers in my stream on facebook are having a sad this morning.

    The centrists are really pitching in for the stop, because they really do not want that panicked section of the D line turning around and charging downhill on them, because, uh, there aren’t nearly enough of them to uh… Oh. SHIT.

    ;)

    You know your candidate has a problem with truth telling

    My brain interpreted this as lying for some reason… yeah. Romney totally has a problem with the telling truth as in he cannot bring himself to engage in such low class behavior. It would boggle the mind but: Rupert Murdoch!

    max
    [‘Did ya hear? Lincoln *tricked* them into attacking Fort Sumter. All his fault. What a terrible man.’]

  7. 7.

    PurpleGirl

    October 17, 2012 at 8:22 am

    Sooner: Thanks for putting up an open thread. I figured that everybody was sleeping in late this morning. That’s all for now.

  8. 8.

    Schlemizel

    October 17, 2012 at 8:23 am

    this is a must read. It something I have been saying for 20 years now, its nice to see the NYT catch up

    The Self-Destruction of the 1 Percent
    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/14/opinion/sunday/the-self-destruction-of-the-1-percent.html?_r=0

  9. 9.

    black onion

    October 17, 2012 at 8:23 am

    All the wingers on my local-ish paper are all saying how Romney won.

    http://www.pressherald.com/politics/Obama-takes-the-offense-says-Romney-just-for-rich-.html

    The cognitive dissonance runs very very deep, even when presented with facts.

  10. 10.

    Tom65

    October 17, 2012 at 8:28 am

    Funny how all my Romney-leaning friends have suddenly become raging centrists.

  11. 11.

    master c

    October 17, 2012 at 8:29 am

    @Chyron HR: need to recycle this today. awesome.

  12. 12.

    Jon Rockoford

    October 17, 2012 at 8:29 am

    Best line and proof that Obama is far smarter than Romney: “Please, proceed Governor.”

    In other words, here’s some more of your own petard governor, host yourself up. The idiot Romney, flustered and anxious to do his alpha-male-boss-bully shit, proceeded to comply.

    Genius. And so delicious.

  13. 13.

    amk

    October 17, 2012 at 8:30 am

    Excellent tweet

    #Romney said a child raised by a single parent had a poor chance of life success. Ironically, he was sharing the stage with one! Good point

  14. 14.

    Cermet

    October 17, 2012 at 8:31 am

    Romney is a kind man if you are one of the 0.01% or a fellow mormon .. otherwise, your are a worthless “one of them”.

  15. 15.

    bemused

    October 17, 2012 at 8:34 am

    @Chyron HR:

    Mitt has been running for office since 1994. Ann started showing symptoms of MS in 1997. Ann has been all in stumping for Mitt being much more involved and visible than most presidential candidate spouses. Her choice.

    Stress includes anger that exacerbates symptoms of illness. I think she is one furious woman, spitting mad that this campaign has been so “hard” and not a smoother ride to their “turn” in the WH.

  16. 16.

    prufrock

    October 17, 2012 at 8:35 am

    Overheard in my doctor’s office this morning: I’m a registered Republican. I tried to like Mitt Romney, but I just can’t.

  17. 17.

    Southern Beale

    October 17, 2012 at 8:37 am

    My thoughts on the debate last nigh. It was definitely Obama’s night.

  18. 18.

    The Red Pen

    October 17, 2012 at 8:37 am

    Some notes for Mitt Romney:

    No one cares about whether Obama said, “act of terrorism” or “terrorist attack.” You’ll get a do-over in the next debate you you’ll just look like a dick trying to push this point. Please do so, asshole.

    We aren’t energy independent if we are importing oil from Canada. Canada is a foreign country, dumbass. Also, too, having a dad who was, “born in Mexico to American parents” does not mean you understand immigration.

    Don’t spend 80 minutes insisting you’ll create 12 million jobs and then blurt out, “the government doesn’t create jobs! the government doesn’t create jobs,” when it’s not even your turn to speak. Yes, you just remembered that Frank Luntz told you to say that, but you missed your chance and now you look like a freak. More of that, please.

  19. 19.

    bemused

    October 17, 2012 at 8:39 am

    @bemused:

    Responding to Schlemizel @3. Oops.

  20. 20.

    Punchy

    October 17, 2012 at 8:39 am

    @prufrock: Translation: I dont like Mitt, but I’ll still vote for him over the Negro….

  21. 21.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 17, 2012 at 8:40 am

    @Punchy: #1

    Angry uppity Black thug berates and insults kind old religious white man…..more at 10pm.

    Yep. Was it good for you? Gimme one of those cigarettes.

  22. 22.

    Comrade Javamanphil

    October 17, 2012 at 8:40 am

    I was really enjoying my day until NPR put Jonah Goldberg on my radio during pledge drive.

  23. 23.

    Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism

    October 17, 2012 at 8:41 am

    @Schlemizel: I’ve also seen her say that she talked Mitt into running this time.

    I’ve always had a sense that she didn’t want to be denied the destiny she’s always been told was hers, to be in the center of the fulfillment of prophecy.

  24. 24.

    dlwchico

    October 17, 2012 at 8:41 am

    Why is the timing of when President Obama called the Embassy attack an ‘act of terrorism’ such a big deal? I was baffled when Mitt was freaking out about it during the debate.

  25. 25.

    Kay

    October 17, 2012 at 8:42 am

    I want to know what “I came through small business” means.

    Are they seriously going to allow this fraud to now pretend he had a “small business”?

    Why not just depart from reality completely, and let him claim credit for anything at all?

  26. 26.

    Bruuuuce

    October 17, 2012 at 8:42 am

    And here was me, listening to the Disaster in Detroit, instead of Willard the Rat Master get schooled. Then again, nobody was liveblogging the Yankees getting their tails beaten down here at BJ :-)

    I’m breathlessly waiting for Staples to announce their sudden sales on binders.

  27. 27.

    amk

    October 17, 2012 at 8:42 am

    @The Red Pen:

    then blurt out, “the government doesn’t create jobs! the government doesn’t create jobs,” when it’s not even your turn to speak.

    one of the bot’s stupidest moments. The fucking CD is amazing.

  28. 28.

    Schlemizel

    October 17, 2012 at 8:47 am

    @bemused:

    I saw what you did there 8-{D

  29. 29.

    PurpleGirl

    October 17, 2012 at 8:47 am

    @dlwchico: That President Obama didn’t say it RIGHT AWAY shows he’s a supersecret Muslim. Also too that he didn’t keep saying it every five minutes proves he sympathizes with the terrorists.

  30. 30.

    peach flavored shampoo

    October 17, 2012 at 8:47 am

    @Comrade Javamanphil: Is that the guy everyone calls “Doughy Pantload” or am I confusing my fat white lazy Republican mouthbreathers?

  31. 31.

    BretH

    October 17, 2012 at 8:48 am

    What is telling is this is a President who is phrasing very carefully and correctly because he does not have all the facts in hand, rather than blustering off the cuff.

    Typical Obama.

    I guess Romney would have sent in a battalion of Marines right away, but there we have our differences.

  32. 32.

    TheronWare

    October 17, 2012 at 8:48 am

    It certainly is funny that all these guys who claim government doesn’t creates jobs are government employees!! Perhaps they should resign.

  33. 33.

    Ash Can

    October 17, 2012 at 8:49 am

    @amk: Excellent tweet indeed. Sharing the stage with one. Who happened to be the president of the USA. And was pwning Mitt’s sorry ass.

  34. 34.

    Face

    October 17, 2012 at 8:51 am

    I’m breathlessly waiting for Staples to announce their sudden sales on binders.

    If at Obama’s next rally they’re not handing out binders full of pictures and resumes of successful women, then someone at O-Camp needs to be canned. This is Tire GaugeGate(TM) in reverse.

    I’ve always thought that if Romney kept his dumbassery in check thru October, he’d win this. Alas, he could not.

  35. 35.

    AA+ Bonds

    October 17, 2012 at 8:52 am

    FoxNews.com just moved their ‘BIAS ALERT’ headline on how Candy Crowley asked Romney mean questions about Libya to the top headline

    ‘BIAS ALERT’ has been their big eight-week pre-election push but this is the first time I have ever seen it as the top headline

  36. 36.

    Violet

    October 17, 2012 at 8:52 am

    @Jon Rockoford:

    Best line and proof that Obama is far smarter than Romney: “Please, proceed Governor.”

    That was a thing of beauty.

  37. 37.

    dmsilev

    October 17, 2012 at 8:53 am

    @Kay: In the letter of the law, a “small business” is any business with less than 500 employees. Bain probably qualifies. So, technically, yes he ran a small business. Except there’s a bit of a difference between running a vulture capital fund and running the corner hardware store, so while he may be legally correct it won’t pass the laugh test.

  38. 38.

    Chris

    October 17, 2012 at 8:54 am

    You’ve gotta be shitting me. Facebook is now telling me that Crowley walked back and is saying Romney was actually right on Libya?

    Your liberal media.

  39. 39.

    Brian R.

    October 17, 2012 at 8:54 am

    Obama-Biden 2012: How’s It Taste, Motherfuckers?

  40. 40.

    Fester Addams

    October 17, 2012 at 8:54 am

    I gather Bishop Romney isn’t used to people actually arguing with him.

  41. 41.

    Schlemizel

    October 17, 2012 at 8:55 am

    @Kay:

    I just assume that the only way Rmoney can reach orgasmic release is during the dismantling and selling off bits of small companies.

    When he says “I came through small business” he is making a plea for help – a desperate cry for Drs. Ruth and Drew to intervene and repair his broken sexual proclivities.

  42. 42.

    debbie

    October 17, 2012 at 8:55 am

    @kay:

    I want to know what “I came through small business” means.

    “I came through, I saw, I destroyed.”

  43. 43.

    Dork

    October 17, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Wait….NE had a 4.0 quake? WTF? They dont frack in NE, right? Can we blame this on Obama?

  44. 44.

    Violet

    October 17, 2012 at 8:56 am

    Does anyone have a breakdown of the audience/questioners in attendance? It sure looked to me like the candidates spent a lot of time with middle-aged and older white men in the background. There was one black man, a few women, the two latinos (seemed like a couple, she asked the question). But mostly the audience of “undecided voters” seemed to be white men.

    If most of the “undecided voters” out there are white men, that’s pretty telling.

  45. 45.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    October 17, 2012 at 8:57 am

    @Schlemizel:

    I responded in the last thread to a post by Kay that this might be the cause of the expression she wore during the debate

    Actually, the look on her face is one you’ve seen: it’s the look of the cheerleader that’s NOT dating the most popular guy in the room.

  46. 46.

    Schlemizel

    October 17, 2012 at 8:57 am

    @peach flavored shampoo:

    One and the same but don’t be too mean to him. Given what we know of his mothers past he might be the son LBJ never had.

    (LBJ called his mom “One of the best I ever had”)

  47. 47.

    Ash Can

    October 17, 2012 at 8:59 am

    @dlwchico: The timing is a big deal because Romney, his campaign, and the GOP in general have sweet ever-loving Fuck All to nail Obama on.

  48. 48.

    Santiago

    October 17, 2012 at 9:01 am

    Great morning indeed if this is true:

    Housing permits up by 11%. Forecast was 1% for September.

    Saw that on twiterer just now.

  49. 49.

    Paul

    October 17, 2012 at 9:02 am

    @AA+ Bonds:

    And this is why FoxNews is known as the propaganda outlet for the Republican party.

  50. 50.

    beltane

    October 17, 2012 at 9:04 am

    @comrade scott’s agenda of rage: The son she was sitting next to had a similar look on his face and he does not, to the best of my knowledge, suffer from MS. That mean, entitled expression on the faces of the Romney family are attributable to the fact that they are mean, entitled people, not to any medical condition.

  51. 51.

    Chris

    October 17, 2012 at 9:04 am

    @Brian R.:

    More importantly, where’s Political Observer to talk about Romney Ryan 2012? Cat got his tongue?

  52. 52.

    Anya

    October 17, 2012 at 9:04 am

    @Chris: She cannot walk that back. It will not help. Millions of people saw that live and what they saw cannot be unseen. But how can Mittenz be right when POTUS said this:

    No acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this great nation, alter that character, or eclipse the light of the values that we stand for. Today we mourn four more Americans who represent the very best of the United States of America. We will not waver in our commitment to see that justice is done for this terrible act. And make no mistake, justice will be done.

  53. 53.

    Brian R.

    October 17, 2012 at 9:05 am

    @dlwchico:

    Why is the timing of when President Obama called the Embassy attack an ‘act of terrorism’ such a big deal? I was baffled when Mitt was freaking out about it during the debate.

    Because, as I read somewhere earlier (here?) Republicans think that foreign policy is essentially a game of Jeopardy in which the only thing that matters is who buzzes in first with the right word.

    Guiliani used to insist that Obama’s problem was that he didn’t say the magic word “terrorism” enough. Romney seems to have bought into that camp too. Fucking idiotic.

  54. 54.

    Dork

    October 17, 2012 at 9:05 am

    @Santiago: This is just a sign that the housing market has gone Spinal Tap, and that under a real president like Mitt, the permits would have gone up by 1,111%. And shut up, that’s how.

  55. 55.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    October 17, 2012 at 9:06 am

    @Chyron HR:

    You sir, win the internetzez for today. I’ll ship them to you overnight via USPS.

  56. 56.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 17, 2012 at 9:06 am

    @Chyron HR: Funny. I was also thinking of The Wire last night

    You come at the king, you best not miss.

  57. 57.

    AA+ Bonds

    October 17, 2012 at 9:07 am

    @Chris:

    Facebook is now telling me that Crowley walked back and is saying Romney was actually right on Libya?

    Facebook says one thing and it is a wordless scream indistinguishable from a mechanical tone

  58. 58.

    lacp

    October 17, 2012 at 9:08 am

    @Brian R.: And we saw how well that worked for Giuliani’s presidential run. (Noun, verb, “nine-eleven”)

  59. 59.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    October 17, 2012 at 9:08 am

    @Dork: I found out the other day that the Dallas Fort Worth are is on a fault line. Check out this map of the US for your area’s hazard rating: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/22/us-fault-lines-graphic-ea_n_432948.html

  60. 60.

    Chris T.

    October 17, 2012 at 9:11 am

    @Kay: Bain was a small business. “Small” refers to the number of employees, not the price of the -hookers- talent.

  61. 61.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    October 17, 2012 at 9:11 am

    @Comrade Javamanphil:

    I was really enjoying my day until NPR put Jonah Goldberg on my radio during pledge drive.

    As soon as Innscreep began the introduction to the piece, I switched stations (I was driving into work).

    And NPR wonders why they get criticism. Oh wait, they don’t wonder why.

  62. 62.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 17, 2012 at 9:13 am

    @Dork: Not unusual in Maine — probably it’s glacial rebound, mostly. The crust, deformed downwards by the mass of the glaciers many millennia ago, is still returning to where it was, like the Pillsbury Doughboy’s tummy. This causes lots of little quakes.

    We have 3’s regularly. This one was a bit bigger.

  63. 63.

    Santiago

    October 17, 2012 at 9:14 am

    Greg Sargent now saying housing construction jumped 15% in September, the highest in 4 years.

  64. 64.

    Todd

    October 17, 2012 at 9:15 am

    @Chris:

    Facebook is now telling me that Crowley walked back and is saying Romney was actually right on Libya?

    She got the emails and text messages from her paymasters, advising her to do a Wolf Blitzer if she wants to keep getting her sweet, sweet pundit money.

    Both sides!

  65. 65.

    Bobby Thomson

    October 17, 2012 at 9:18 am

    @Chris:

    You’ve gotta be shitting me. Facebook is now telling me that Crowley walked back and is saying Romney was actually right on Libya?

    Link? It’s a lie, and we need to nip these viral e-mail lies at the source.

  66. 66.

    Ash Can

    October 17, 2012 at 9:18 am

    @Chris: I dIddn’t see PO runnIng around here wallowing in our tears after the last debate, so I’ll be pleasantly surprised if s/he shows up today.

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    October 17, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Little noted what with the splatter and sputter of debate verbiage, a worthy decision affirming the rule of law over the rule by panic and revenge.

    In a decision that could ban the military’s favorite methods of prosecuting Guantanamo Bay detainees, a federal appeals court on Tuesday overturned the 2008 military commission conviction of Salim Hamdan, Osama bin Laden’s former driver.
    __
    Judge Brett Kavanaugh, a George W. Bush appointee, wrote for a three-judge DC Circuit panel that Hamdan could not be prosecuted for acts that were not crimes at the time they were committed. That’s because the Constitution prohibits Congress from passing laws ex post facto—after the fact.…  Source

  68. 68.

    Davis X. Machina

    October 17, 2012 at 9:25 am

    @Todd: She’ll wind up, before week’s end, being shuttled from safe house to safe house one step ahead of breitbart.com’s really real true patriotic American patriots….

  69. 69.

    raven

    October 17, 2012 at 9:29 am

    @Todd: @Chris: Bullshit. here’s what they are trying to us for their CYA:

    Political Insider
    CNN’s Candy Crowley: Mitt Romney ‘right in the main’ about Libya

    8:07 am October 17, 2012, by jgalloway

    The most dramatic moment in Tuesday night’s debate between President Barack Obama and Republican challenger Mitt Romney was over the topic of Libya, when moderator Candy Crowley of CNN intervened.

    Here’s the transcript, courtesy of Politico.com:

    ROMNEY: I — I think interesting the president just said something which — which is that on the day after the attack he went into the Rose Garden and said that this was an act of terror.

    OBAMA: That’s what I said.

    ROMNEY: You said in the Rose Garden the day after the attack, it was an act of terror.

    It was not a spontaneous demonstration, is that what you’re saying?

    OBAMA: Please proceed governor.

    ROMNEY: I want to make sure we get that for the record because it took the president 14 days before he called the attack in Benghazi an act of terror.

    OBAMA: Get the transcript.

    CROWLEY: It — it — it — he did in fact, sir. So let me — let me call it an act of terror…

    OBAMA: Can you say that a little louder, Candy?

    CROWLEY: He — he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.

    Soon after the debate was over, Crowley’s colleagues at CNN questioned her about the exchange:

    Said Crowley:

    ”I knew the president had said ‘These acts of terror won’t stand,’ or whatever the whole quote was. Right after that, I did turn around and said [to Romney], ‘But you were totally correct that they spent two weeks telling us that this was about a tape, and that there was a riot outside the Benghazi complex, which there wasn’t.’

    “So [Romney] was right in the main. I just think he picked the wrong word.”

  70. 70.

    Dork

    October 17, 2012 at 9:32 am

    @Davis X. Machina: God damn, I learn something every day here. Thanks!

  71. 71.

    Bobby Thomson

    October 17, 2012 at 9:34 am

    OK, now I see what this is about. Here’s what Crowley actually said:

    He — he did call it an act of terror. It did as well take — it did as well take two weeks or so for the whole idea there being a riot out there about this tape to come out. You are correct about that.

    To defend herself from charges of bias and/or throw Mitt a lifeline, she’s now emphasizing what she went on to say starting with “It did as well,” but she’s not denying that the president did use the words “act of terror.” Which is much ado about nothing, but if you’re going to make it the crux of your attack you’d better be right.

    More to the point, the other stuff Crowley said is just silly and wrong. The “idea [of] there being a riot out there” was front and center from the start, and largely driven by the right wing, not the administration.

  72. 72.

    aimai

    October 17, 2012 at 9:36 am

    @raven:

    She did temporize at the time, in the debate and she is still temporizing. I don’t understand why it is so hard for our masters of the universe and pundits to remember the obvious fact that what gets said in public about a developing international crisis is ALWAYS a lie and should be a lie. I so wish Obama had said to Romney “When you’ve sat in the big chair you will realize something that businessmen and talk radio blowhards don’t seem to know: you never tell the whole world the first loud thought that comes to mind. The President of the United States can’t pay people to be yes men, and doesn’t get paid to satisfy the ego of shock jocks. You can bet your boots that when there is an international crisis everyone in the administration avoids making stupid, off the cuff, remarks.”

  73. 73.

    SFAW

    October 17, 2012 at 9:37 am

    @raven:

    “So [Romney] was right in the main. I just think he picked the wrong word.”

    He seems to do that a lot. For example, when he intended to say “I want to help the poor”, the wrong word came out, and it became “fuck the poor.” And when he intended to say “I want to save Medicare”, it somehow came out as “kill Medicare.”

    Or perhaps vice versa.

    It’s an inadvertent mistake, anyone could make the same mistake. So lighten up, you O-bots.

  74. 74.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us? (formerly MarkJ)

    October 17, 2012 at 9:39 am

    I wonder if anyone in the news media will do any soul searching over the fact a bunch of undecided (read least informed and decisive) voters asked more penetrating questions than professional journalists? I realize the questions last night weren’t great but they were far better than Jim Lehrer.

  75. 75.

    jwb

    October 17, 2012 at 9:54 am

    @Chris: I haven’t yet seen evidence of this on either Twitter or the blogs I follow.

  76. 76.

    jwb

    October 17, 2012 at 9:58 am

    @Bobby Thomson: Yes, that’s not walking it back, that’s just clarifying what she meant about the second part of the quote, which I wondered about last night in this very thread.

  77. 77.

    hep kitty

    October 17, 2012 at 10:13 am

    I was very disappointed in Obama’s performance.

  78. 78.

    hep kitty

    October 17, 2012 at 10:16 am

    JK!

    After all the teeth-gnashing, I just couldn’t help myself.

  79. 79.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2012 at 10:19 am

    @Chris: Facebook: not a news source of record.

  80. 80.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2012 at 10:20 am

    @hep kitty: You’re right — he should have taken a knee at the end there instead of going for that last field goal.

  81. 81.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2012 at 10:22 am

    @Dork: The house here near Boston shook for about half a second. Seemed more like a mini-tornado went by, but then I went outside and it was clear as a bell. Usually there’s rumble component, but this time it just sounded and felt like hella wind pushing on the windows.

  82. 82.

    The Red Pen

    October 17, 2012 at 10:22 am

    @aimai:

    you never tell the whole world the first loud thought that comes to mind

    You also don’t say anything about a developing intelligence picture. Sometimes you don’t even say anything about it when it’s developed.

    Someone following the evolution of what the Obama Administration knew, plus following chatter on the street might be able to deduce critical information about “methods and sources” that would damage our intelligence operations.

    Unfortunately, Obama can’t quite get away with schooling Romney on that. Maybe a surrogate can do it in the news cycle. It certainly reveals how these undercover-agent-outing motherfuckers don’t really care about national security.

  83. 83.

    different-church-lady

    October 17, 2012 at 10:24 am

    @beltane:

    That mean, entitled expression on the faces of the Romney family are attributable to the fact that they are mean, entitled people who’s relative is getting his ass handed to him on a national stage.

    Appended that for you.

  84. 84.

    ksmiami

    October 17, 2012 at 10:29 am

    @Santiago: I believe it – I can’t even drive down my street as there is so much construction

  85. 85.

    Chris

    October 17, 2012 at 10:30 am

    @raven:

    Thanks. I was posting from my smartphone, where I still haven’t figured out how to make linkees, but further investigation did confirm that that was what happened. Sorry for the concern-trolling and thanks for posting the transcript!

  86. 86.

    hep kitty

    October 17, 2012 at 10:43 am

    @What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us? (formerly MarkJ): You know, that lady that asked Romney about how his admin would be different from the Bush admin (and she acknowledged that Bush admin contributed a great deal to the mess were are in! – I was totally taken aback by that level of understanding from an undecided!)

    Well, I haven’t finished watching it yet but now I feel bad for calling them all stupid. That was a great and highly relevant question.

  87. 87.

    LanceThruster

    October 17, 2012 at 10:54 am

    God, Rmoney is a disgusting human being.

    x2, x3, x4

  88. 88.

    Judas Escargot, Acerbic Prophet of the Mighty Potato God

    October 17, 2012 at 10:59 am

    @amk:
    As someone raised by a single-parent, I noticed that line. Glad others did, too.

    Fuck you, Mittens.

  89. 89.

    Ed Drone

    October 17, 2012 at 11:11 am

    @Comrade Javamanphil:

    NPR put Jonah Goldberg on my radio during pledge drive.

    Not the best way to increase giving, is it?

    Ed

  90. 90.

    Ed Drone

    October 17, 2012 at 11:15 am

    @Face:

    This is Tire GaugeGate™ in reverse.

    Is there a source for an Obama-for-president tire gauge? I’d surely love to have one.

    Ed

  91. 91.

    Evolving Deep Southerner

    October 17, 2012 at 11:18 am

    The. Best. State. Supreme Court. Campaign. Commercial. Ever. Period.

    This campaign has had a woeful dearth of “Smoky and the Bandit” music. Paul Newby has rectified that in this masterpiece.

  92. 92.

    hep kitty

    October 17, 2012 at 11:19 am

    @Ed Drone: Now that my satellite radio finally pooped out, I have to listen to NPR ocassionally. Thanks for affirming that my reasons for cringing when I have to tune in are valid.

  93. 93.

    TG Chicago

    October 17, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    If you needed any more evidence that Politifact has given up on their mission, check this out:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/17/mitt-romney/romney-says-obama-waited-14-days-call-libya-attack/

    They’re saying that Romney’s statement that the President waited 14 days to call it “terror” is Half True. What utter nonsense.

  94. 94.

    LAC

    October 17, 2012 at 12:23 pm

    @Comrade Javamanphil: Yeah, why wasthat fucktard polluting my ears? What, Jennifer Rubin was lying on her couch, nursing her hangover and couldn’t come to the phone?

  95. 95.

    veryslowwriter

    October 17, 2012 at 12:30 pm

    The “calling it terror” is just like the Kennedy-Nixon debate in which the central exchange was about Quemoy and Matsu. Does anybody care? Did anybody care THEN? No and No.

    Amazing how politicians/media tie themselves into knots over questions completely irrelevant to 99.99% of the citizenry.

  96. 96.

    Another Halocene Human

    October 17, 2012 at 12:51 pm

    @Evolving Deep Southerner: brilliant!

  97. 97.

    fuckwit

    October 17, 2012 at 1:58 pm

    I have to wonder if Crowley was ACTUALLY THERE IN THE ROSE GARDEN when he said it, too? That’s be sweet.

    Was she covering the WH that day? Or did she just report it that day, so of course she remembers exactly what he said.

    Either way, I got the feeling that Obama not only knew RMoney was going to tell a whopper (“please proceed”), but that Crowley was going to be vividly and personally very much aware of how blatant it was.

    I’ll bet their oppo team sat up watching FAUX and listening to Limblow for a few days straight before the debate, documenting all the lies and fantasies, and knew exactly what kinds of whoppers were going to come out.

    Maybe the audience was clapping because this whole issue is so misguided and trivial and such a FAUX distraction: who gives a shit what you call it and when??! What matters is what you DO about it afterwards, how well, and how soon.

  98. 98.

    dance around in your bones

    October 17, 2012 at 2:00 pm

    @aimai: What a great comment, aimai.

    As usual, late to the thread.

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