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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Trump to Reveal Obama Divorce Papers?

Trump to Reveal Obama Divorce Papers?

by Imani Gandy (ABL)|  October 23, 20127:03 pm| 155 Comments

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Donald Trump the Orange Supremacist claims he’s going to release some big news tomorrow, and some Florida investor named Douglas Kass has Daily Mail speculating that the big bombshell is divorce papers:

Donald Trump is to claim that he has unearthed divorce papers of Michelle Obama and the President, according to a respected financial pundit with links to the tycoon.

It is alleged that the eccentric real estate mogul will claim that the documents show the First Lady and the President were at one point in their two decades of marriage seriously considering splitting up.

Trump set the hare running on Monday by claiming that he was set to make an announcement on Wednesday that would be ‘bordering on gigantic’ and that it would ‘possibly’ change the Presidential race.

The billionaire told Fox & Friends that he had ‘something very, very big concerning the president of the United States’. ‘It’s going to be very big. I know one thing- you will cover it in a very big fashion’.

Trump declined to elaborate, but today an investor who appears on the same business talk show as him claimed to have more details.

Douglas Kass, a Florida-based investor who appears on CNBC’s talkshow ‘Squawkbox’ where Trump is often a commentator, tweeted to his 48,000 followers: ‘High above the Alps my Gnome has heard that Donald Trump will announce that he has unearthed divorce papers between the Prez and his wife.’

HIgh above the Alps my Gnome has heard that Donald Trump will announce that he has unearthed divorce papers between the Prez and his wife.

— Douglas Kass (@DougKass) October 23, 2012

If true, this would be news, why? Who cares? How many times has Trump been married? Three? I mean, really — the thrice divorced asshole is going to reveal that a couple may have considered divorce during the course of twenty years of marriage? And that upon considering divorce, they didn’t get divorced? Really?!

Does anyone give a shit? I mean, does anyone give a shit no matter what nonsense Donald is up to?

The answer is no — no they do not.

[via Daily Mail]

[cross-posted at ABLC]
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  1. 1.

    Gravenstone

    October 23, 2012 at 7:05 pm

    Attention whore needs attention. Simple as that. Add to it, Trump will never forgive Obama for openly mocking him at the WHCD a couple years back. Thin skinned doesn’t begin to describe the Donald.

  2. 2.

    Desert Rat

    October 23, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    This is their October surprise? Lame. Very few couples in long-term monogamous relationships go without some bumpy periods.

    Mrs. Rat and I were close to Splitsville back in the early 1990’s. Here it is 2012, and we’re still together, and closer than ever.

  3. 3.

    JPL

    October 23, 2012 at 7:07 pm

    Actually this might help the President. Marriage is hard work and they proved they can do it. Also, too Michelle can talk about the gossip hurting her children.

  4. 4.

    Emma

    October 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    You know it’s amazing. They make much of a muchness over the sanctity of marriage, but they can’t (1)keep it in their pants and/or (2)keep theirs together. I think what pisses them off the most about Bill and Hillary is that they’ve survived and thrived as a couple, in spite of everything. And now it’s OHMYGOD they Obamas thought about divorce? With two such strong personalities it would be surprising if they hadn’t at one point or another.

    And it doesn’t make a damn bit of difference as to how the President runs the country.

  5. 5.

    General Stuck

    October 23, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    Bullshit

  6. 6.

    Hill Dweller

    October 23, 2012 at 7:10 pm

    Trump has been a prominent supporter for Willard. He just threw a fundraiser for him last week. Tie all this shit to Willard.

    While they’re at it, point out Willard had wingnut racist Jerome Corsi on his campaign plane recently, too.

  7. 7.

    JGabriel

    October 23, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    __
    __
    So Trump is flinging some bullshit tomorrow, and Doug Kass thinks he know what color it will be?

    I’m having trouble working up an outrage about this. Let’s wait until tomorrow and attack Trump for whatever color his actual bullshit is, rather than attacking him on the basis of Doug Kass’s fevered wet dreams.

    .

  8. 8.

    Laura

    October 23, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    Uh haven’t they both already admitted that they almost split up once? And who the hell should care exactly?

    Then there’s this that claims Trump found someone who’ll say Obama did cocaine in college, which, GASP, HE ALREADY ADMITTED TOO. radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-re…

    That asshole has nothing.

  9. 9.

    PsiFighter37

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    I think even Mark Halperin’s friends are stupid enough to dismiss this tripe (if this is indeed what it’s about).

    As for Mark Halperin, I’m not sure.

    And Political Observer will probably be masturbating furiously whenever Donald Fakehair steps up to the mic.

  10. 10.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    So the word is that Trump is going to release the details of something that is really none of my business?

    Whoopee.

  11. 11.

    var

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    This is an easy spin / play for sympathy for Obama. First a statement that personal lives are personal. Then an acknowledgement that no marriage is perfect and a statement that M and B have worked hard at their marriage like any other couples and are as happy as they ever have. Then anger / regret that Malia and Sasha have to find out this way because some partisan republican thinks he can score a political points.

  12. 12.

    The Other Chuck

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Mitt Romney Supporter Donald Trump really loves to get Mitt Romney Supporter Donald Trump’s name in the news a lot. Let’s oblige Mitt Romney Supporter Donald Trump’s wishes and also make sure that Mitt Romney Supporter Donald Trump’s name is always mentioned in conjunction with … hold on, the name will come to me in a second.

  13. 13.

    Comrade Dread

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Wait, I thought he was supposed to be a Kenyan, coke-dealin’, Muslim, radical liberation Christian, soshalist, gay usurper.

    Next they’ll be telling us he killed Vince Foster because Foster got too close to the Kenyan conspiracy.

  14. 14.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    In other news, the squirrel that lives on Trump’s head is suing The Donald for child support.

  15. 15.

    RSR

    October 23, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    Dude is a birther and now tweets about vaccines harming children. Credibility less than zero.

  16. 16.

    Villago Delenda Est

    October 23, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    @Comrade Dread:

    Foster was in a lesbian threesome with Hillary and Michelle.

  17. 17.

    rammalamadingdong

    October 23, 2012 at 7:16 pm

    If there is mention of cheating it will become something.

  18. 18.

    burnspbesq

    October 23, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    The Daily Mail? Seriously? Damn, you’re gullible.

  19. 19.

    GregB

    October 23, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Has anyone seen Trumps’ birth certificate? I am pretty sure it would show he’s what was produced when Bull Connor fucked a circus peanut.

  20. 20.

    Comrade Dread

    October 23, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: My God, it all makes perfect sense.

  21. 21.

    Ben Franklin

    October 23, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Is that all he’s got?

    FACEPALM

  22. 22.

    Paul

    October 23, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    I am still waiting for Donald Trump to tell us what his investigators found out regarding Obama’s birth certificate. At the time he claimed they had stunning discoveries but he couldn’t yet divulge it. And now, 9 months later still not a word about it.

    Just like Jack Welch, Donald Trump is a frequent quest on CNBC where they can spout their far right-wing talking points. I wonder why CNBC hasn’t bothered to ask Mr Trump about what his investigators found. Journalism in America is such a lost art.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    October 23, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    if that’s the Big Reveal, it’s not news. The Obamas have both talked about a rocky patch that their marriage went through towards the beginning of Barack’s serious political career (i.e. the runup towards the 2004 Senate election). I mean, this has been known publicly for probably 4 or 5 years now.

  24. 24.

    Rathskeller

    October 23, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    No ideas, simply scandals. Has there ever been as fatuous an airhead as Donald Trump?

  25. 25.

    Ben Franklin

    October 23, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    @GregB:

    when Bull Connor fucked a circus peanut.

    I’m gonna havta steal that.

  26. 26.

    PsiFighter37

    October 23, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    I bet Larry Johnson’s disappointed. He probably thought the ‘Whitey’ tape was finally going to show up.

  27. 27.

    Josie

    October 23, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    I have never wished as much as I do now that there really is such a thing as karma.

  28. 28.

    dmsilev

    October 23, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    @Rathskeller: Sarah Palin?

  29. 29.

    Anya

    October 23, 2012 at 7:21 pm

    Why even front page this? You’re just giving the short fingered vulgarian what he craves the most – attention. Way to help the attention whore.

  30. 30.

    dr. bloor

    October 23, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Pleasepleaseplease be true. This would knock Rmoney so far off message he’d never be able to get back on track, and will make Potus and Flotus more sympathetic.

  31. 31.

    LT

    October 23, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    Trump’s been divorced twice himself.

    Is he trying to make Obama look good?

  32. 32.

    Donut

    October 23, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    @Laura:

    Radar has dueling Octiber surprises posted. A 2-fer!

    radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/president-obama-sold-cocaine-college-trump-charges-republicans-re…

    radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/10/gloria-allred-mitt-romney-october-surprise-gag-order

    Both stories, IMO, are relevant only if they depress the party bases…which I don’t see happening…

  33. 33.

    Spaghetti Lee

    October 23, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    HIgh above the Alps my Gnome has heard

    Wasn’t this the opening line of a Terry Pratchett book?

  34. 34.

    GregB

    October 23, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    Be my guest.

  35. 35.

    Bowser's Clown Copter

    October 23, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Reminder that Donald Trump literally went bankrupt running a casino.

  36. 36.

    David in NY

    October 23, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    What about the children, Donald Trump? What about the children?

    (fucking asshole)

  37. 37.

    Jay in Oregon

    October 23, 2012 at 7:23 pm

    Best comment from the Gawker piece:

    By staying together and working through their issues, the Obamas are making a mockery of traditional divorce.

  38. 38.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Media will promote it. Not one of them resisted Donald Trump last time. As I recall, they treated him as a credible candidate for President. In fact, the President was forced to hand out copies of his birth certificate.

    Any “blowback” to this is going to have to come from the public, because we’re in an ethics-free environment.

    Gonna have to come from outside. I have some faith there, however.

  39. 39.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    October 23, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    Hah. Too late. I already know what he’s going to reveal. Here’s a link to a youtube of Rick Astley – *FUCK* I did it again. Pretend you didn’t read that – here’s a link to the bombshell video that… oh, never mind.

  40. 40.

    PsiFighter37

    October 23, 2012 at 7:24 pm

    @Donut: As much as I dislike Gloria Allred, she has turned up some pretty useful dirt in the past.

    Not that I’m going to be hanging my hat on it. My buddy and I are flying out to Cincinnati next weekend to do some old-fashioned GOTV either there or in Dayton. Time to wear in the shoe leather and bring this fuckin’ election home.

    @kay: If anything, it puts the Obamas in a sympathetic light, if it’s true at all. It’s a non-issue, and if they really want to focus on that – they ended up working things out and staying together. And that’s a negative because…?

  41. 41.

    gex

    October 23, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    This is actually just really sad. Sad for the crazy man that thinks anyone would give a shit. Sad for us that there are people that will give a shit. And sad for our politics as this is where we are at now.

  42. 42.

    PeakVT

    October 23, 2012 at 7:25 pm

    Don’t know if its true and don’t really care. But wouldn’t the fact that Barak and Michelle could reconcile their marriage speak favorably about them to that group of deeply confused and ignorant people who might actually be influenced by the issue?

  43. 43.

    Andrew

    October 23, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    Even my parents, diehard Republicans, think this is ridiculous. Hell, they almost got divorced themselves.

    I wonder what those fat fucks Limbaugh and Gingrich would say. LOL

  44. 44.

    Yutsano

    October 23, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: See now THAT I’d believe.

  45. 45.

    dr. bloor

    October 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    @gex: Oh hell, stories about politicians screwing box turtles and the like are as old as the Republic.

  46. 46.

    Kristin

    October 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    It would be one thing if Obama were anti-marriage equality. Then he’d maybe be a hypocrite like Trump, Gingrich, Limbaugh and the rest of them. As it is, this is meaningless.

  47. 47.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    Anyone else suspect that what Trump actually has is Obama Sr. and Sydney Dunham’s divorce papers? Given that they’ve been pushing “Obama Sr. was not the president’s real father!” bullshit, that would make a little more sense, plus they’d probably be a lot more interesting and scandalous than the current Mr. & Mrs. Obama’s putative divorce papers.

  48. 48.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    October 23, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    If this is true then Donny Strump is probably jealous since the President and his wife succeeded where Strumpy failed, repeatedly.

    OT: It seems that Rmoney will be losing some conservative voters to a Jesus for President write-in campaign since they are being told that both Obama and Rmoney are “Sons of Satan”.

    Fundies are funny, as in funny in the brain.

  49. 49.

    Paul

    October 23, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    @LT:

    Not only that, the Republican saint Ronald Reagan was divorced. And the Obama’s may have had difficulties, but they (unlike Reagan) worked through them. Isn’t that what marriage is supposed to be?!. For better or for WORSE…

    Then again, the twice divorced Trump would have no clue about that.

  50. 50.

    gex

    October 23, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    @var: And if it backfires it shows the real problem the GOP has these days. A bunch of rich people want to spend their money, say their thing, and have that make for a winning campaign. But campaigns require discipline and strategy, and these folks aren’t going to listen to the party. They just have a bunch of stupid tactics designed to be a “gotcha” but aren’t.

  51. 51.

    Quicksand

    October 23, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    HIgh above the Alps my Gnome has heard
    ..
    Wasn’t this the opening line of a Terry Pratchett book?

    Reading that right below your nym caused me to mentally hear it as ’70s Rush lyrics.

  52. 52.

    arguingwithsignposts

    October 23, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    Indeed, if it’s good enough for St. Ronnie of Reagan, why haven’t all presidents been divorced?

  53. 53.

    j

    October 23, 2012 at 7:34 pm

    So they drew up papers to separate their incomes and assets after Barack’s loss (and subsequent campaign debt) from his first foray into politics? And Michelle was making more money.

    And never filed them?

    So how did Trump get these alleged papers?

    And which lawyer will be disbarred for leaking them (if they exist)?

    AND WHERE ARE THE “DYNAMITE FINDINGS” Chump was going to release from his “crack private investigators” looking into the birth certificate in Hawaii?

    “Unbelievable stuff” he claimed.

    Fuck that attention whore.

  54. 54.

    mark k

    October 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    What a piece of shit. Trump doesn’t care about the hurt this will cause Obama’s children.

    Trump (and his buddy Karl “Fair Game” Rove) is a piece of shit.

  55. 55.

    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)

    October 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    I don’t often say something like this, but I think I will be no less than gleeful when this wretched toad kicks off. Goodbye to your piggy eyes, Donald, goodbye to your steaming lies.

    Oh, well, probably just wracked up some bad karma points….
    Ef it….

  56. 56.

    PsiFighter37

    October 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    @Quicksand: Personally, I’d like to know why his gnomes aren’t busy collecting underpants. They should be busy working towards PROFIT!, not eavesdropping on Donald Trump.

  57. 57.

    geg6

    October 23, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    This is his big surprise? Really?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    That’s almost as funny as that badger he wears on his head.

  58. 58.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    @PsiFighter37:

    If you had told me that the President had to hand out copies of his birth certificate because political media were busy promoting a reality TV star, I would not have believed it.

    Yet, that happened. Ethics-free zone.

  59. 59.

    AndoChronic

    October 23, 2012 at 7:40 pm

    Fragile ego Don needs a fix.

  60. 60.

    JoyceH

    October 23, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    If this is The Donald’s Big Announcement, it’s gonna backfire. True or false, the backfire will be enormous.

    No, come to think of it, it will be more than enormous.

    It will be YOOOOOOJ.

  61. 61.

    jshooper

    October 23, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    Right winger’s obsession with Obama is starting to creep me out…the fact that they would even look this up is pathetic…and the fact that they care about it…and think it’s a major scandal is INSANE…WTF is going on with the american white (right) wing…Birtherism was bad…this is just pathetic…step your game up wingnuts !!!…SMH

  62. 62.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @mark k:

    How much would a 20% tax cut mean to Donald Trump?

    That’s his price. That’s how much he costs.

  63. 63.

    Joel

    October 23, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    If Donald Chump’s allegations prove even remotely true, it might have the opposite effect from what he desires. Look at what happened to Clinton.

  64. 64.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 7:47 pm

    Also, too, the last time Trump pulled something like this, it was about two weeks before the premiere of the latest version of “Celebrity Apprentice.” And right now we’re about two weeks out from … the latest version of “Celebrity Apprentice” (“All Stars!”)

    Yeah, this has less to do with any animus The Donald feels towards the president and much, much more to do with promoting his TV show, which is his major form of income since he’s a total failure in the real estate business.

  65. 65.

    gex

    October 23, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    @kay: A friend’s facebook friend got in my face demanding to know why Obama hasn’t released his transcripts. I countered by asking why he should, since they wouldn’t accept the birth certificate. And for that officials from Hawaii validated the document.

    At some point, I’d respect them more if they just said the problem is his blackness. At least they’d get honesty points. This sort of twisting and spinning to find a way to prove he’s a fraud is pathetic.

  66. 66.

    wiscomom

    October 23, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    Is this designed so that Mitt can do his “Sister Souljah moment” and repudiate Trump, which finishes his complete etch a sketch during the month of October?
    Personally, it just makes me more determined than ever to do whatever I can to GOTV in Wisconsin. Good job, Trump!

  67. 67.

    SatanicPanic

    October 23, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    What’s the big deal? Pretty much everyone deals with this. At points in my marriage talk of divorce became almost a drinking game.

  68. 68.

    quannlace

    October 23, 2012 at 7:50 pm

    What’s really revolting is that Trump doesn’t believe/take seriously any of the shit he throws out there. (His on-camera smirk is proof enough.)
    The democratic process, choosing a new president? It’s no more than a gonzo reality show.

  69. 69.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @kay:

    How much would a 20% tax cut mean to Donald Trump?

    I guarantee you that Donald Trump is NOT in the 1%. Not even close. When he kicks off, he’s going to have one of the most encumbered estates in the history of New York, and it’s going to be found that his debts outweigh his assets.

    Again: this is a man who lost money running a business where people walk in the door and voluntarily hand you their cash so they can play cards. A financial genius, he ain’t.

  70. 70.

    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)

    October 23, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @JoyceH: I hope you’re correct, Joyce, but can you explain? Would it backfire on Trump? On the Repubs? On the media who reports this non-story?

    I suspect Trump will go right on with his dumb-ass TV show. The right-wing noise machine will chortle and tut-tut and keep selling ads for Sleep Train and Viagra.

  71. 71.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @gex:

    It’s funny how your friend isn’t concerned about Mitt Romney’s tax returns.

    You saw how fast that was tamped down. If it hadn’t been for Harry Reid we wouldn’t have gotten the (partial) year we got.

    It’s nice to be a rich white Guy. The rules are different.

  72. 72.

    Original Lee

    October 23, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    Meanwhile, the Apology Tour stuff has been discussed so much that my normally rational Original Spouse is now saying that Obama did too apologize. I am looking for a good debunking of that, but my google-fu is weak today. A little help would be appreciated.

  73. 73.

    PsiFighter37

    October 23, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @wiscomom: Yeah, I somehow doubt that is happening.

  74. 74.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    I always liked Jack Benny’s line:

    “Mary and I have been married for fifty years and we’ve never said the word divorce. Murder, yes, but divorce, never!”

  75. 75.

    geg6

    October 23, 2012 at 7:56 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    This.

    He’s all show. Unbelievable that the media and the wingnuts ever took him seriously as a candidate. This country sucks.

  76. 76.

    John O

    October 23, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    @var:

    This. Every long-term married person in the country will relate.

  77. 77.

    JPL

    October 23, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    @kay: Besides the polls showing both Brown and Obama up in Ohio, what else is going on?

  78. 78.

    JenJen

    October 23, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    In a world that is good and just, this last-ditch Trump attack would actually mean something, and would backfire on Romney for having accepted a carnival barker’s endorsement so publicly and cheerfully.

    I mean, they’re dragging Michelle into this now. I say, use it and make it work against them. Does anybody remember in 2000, when just days before the election, Dubya’s previously-undisclosed DUI arrest record was revealed? Rove & Co. worked that shit and made it backfire hard, turning into a last-ditch cheap shot, at least in the eyes of the media. (And yes, before anyone chimes in, of course I believe Gore really did win Florida and really did win the election; it is actually the singular moment that got me involved in politics.)

    I say the best way to treat this story is not to ignore it, but rather to shine a glaring spotlight on it and connect Romney to Trump. This would be a great job for a talented surrogate, mind you, not the Obama campaign itself.

  79. 79.

    gelfling545

    October 23, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    I am convinced that the only married people who never “almost” got divorced are 1. those who did get divorced and 2. those who died young.

  80. 80.

    Roger Moore

    October 23, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I guarantee you that Donald Trump is NOT in the 1%. Not even close. When he kicks off, he’s going to have one of the most encumbered estates in the history of New York, and it’s going to be found that his debts outweigh his assets.

    This. If The Donald actually had as much money as he says he does, why in hell would he waste his time hosting a stupid reality TV show?

  81. 81.

    gelfling545

    October 23, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    @gex: Um..have we seen Romney’s transcripts??? I think not.

  82. 82.

    Roger Moore

    October 23, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    @gelfling545:
    Sure, but Romney isn’t blah, so we don’t have to worry that he might have gotten where he is because of set asides for blah people. We know damn well that he got there from set asides for rich people.

  83. 83.

    YellowJournalism

    October 23, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    I think if they had considered divorce and worked through it into the cuddly couple they are today, then consider me admiring them even more than I do.

  84. 84.

    maya

    October 23, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @Spaghetti Lee:

    HIgh above the Alps my Gnome has heard

    Wasn’t this the opening line of a Terry Pratchett book?

    It was actually the opening line from a song in The Sound of Music

    High on a hill sits the lonely Gnome herd

  85. 85.

    Paul

    October 23, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @Original Lee:

    Here’s a link to some of Ronald Reagan’s apologies.
    ceinquiry.us/2011-02-05-reagan-apology

    Obama has not apologized. But even if he had (like Reagan did), so what? If we mess up, what’s wrong with apologizing? Other countries do.

  86. 86.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    Also, three … anyone who thinks that the Obama campaign hasn’t already addressed this possibility and doesn’t have a response prepared is probably as stupid as, well, Donald Trump.

  87. 87.

    weaselone

    October 23, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    I had just assumed that this was Trump’s attempt to bring attention to either fabricated BS, or generally stupid BS (like playing select segments of Obama’s reading of “Dream’s of my Father”) in an attempt to drag down his poll numbers with a false controversy close to the election.

  88. 88.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @JPL:

    We’re doing voter protection and setting up GOTV.

    The voter protection thing is more complicated this year, because we have “line lawyers” which is putting an election lawyer closer to the volunteer poll watchers. I’m not an election lawyer, nor do I pretend to be, so it’s good, it’s just more complicated.

    The birther thing rattled and upset me, and this will too. I think it’s disgusting. I was never able to laugh off birthers. I think it was intended to demean and humiliate, and that just kills me.

  89. 89.

    Original Lee

    October 23, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @Original Lee: Never mind. Found it on PoliFact.

  90. 90.

    digitals3rf

    October 23, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    Turd-eater Trump is even worse at gotcha politics than he is at real estate, TV, marriage and running casinos. I hope he goes on every single morning show with this. It’ll create sympathy for Obama and Michelle who’s more popular than he is.

  91. 91.

    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)

    October 23, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Speaking of other fools making news, Ann “That’s a man, man” Coulter has called the president a retard. Is it all about the dollar? Does she (and others like her) spew such nonsense just to stay in the news and sell books and columns and speeches? Dennis Miller, Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, et al — is there nothing but decay and a thirst for money and notoriety in their souls (metaphorically speaking)?

  92. 92.

    Tonal Crow

    October 23, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    Oh please don’t throw us in that briar patch! We’ll DIE DIE DIE for sure!

  93. 93.

    Jerzy Russian

    October 23, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.): Mr. Cole’s mother reads this blog, so please have some consideration when using swear words, as in A*n C***ter.

  94. 94.

    SatanicPanic

    October 23, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @Roger Moore: He’s not a real developer anymore and has been reduced to licensing out his name for other people’s hotels. Which is gonna be hard to do after he’s gone out of his way to piss off about half of America.

  95. 95.

    JenJen

    October 23, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    @kay: Getting into the weeds a little, but since (I think?) you’re in the area, and things look so much different down here in southwestern Ohio, I thought this analysis of Wood County was interesting, mainly because I’d never read a profile of that county before. Would love your thoughts.

  96. 96.

    David in NY

    October 23, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    OT, but interesting re the Senate:

    Mourdock (R) has just gone all Todd Akin:

    Mourdock: Rape Pregnancies ‘Something That God Intended to Happen’

    livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/mourdock-pregnancies-from-rape-something-that-god-intended

  97. 97.

    Beauzeaux

    October 23, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    This is really funny. Have you seen the Obamas together? How they look at each other? How they can’t keep their hands off each other when together?

    If that’s how things turn out after considering divorce, I may have to give it a try.

  98. 98.

    David in NY

    October 23, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @Beauzeaux: Yeah, my wife got all cuddly just watching them. And Ann and Mitt are the ice couple next to them.

  99. 99.

    Culture of Truth

    October 23, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    As far as I’m concerned, Mitt Romney needs to disavow Donald Trump, or he is responsible.

    Not fair? I don’t care.

  100. 100.

    debbie

    October 23, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @JPL:

    @kay: Besides the polls showing both Brown and Obama up in Ohio, what else is going on?

    It seems more than a few Ohio counties have “inadvertently” sent incorrect voting day information to communities “coincidentally” minority.

    Even better, a Mandel ad I saw this morning listed his strengths. The final one was “the integrity of a Marine.” I should think Marines everywhere would be offended.

  101. 101.

    debbie

    October 23, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    @ Culture of Truth:

    I can’t be the first to think of Trump as Romney’s Reverend Wright, can I?

  102. 102.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @JenJen:

    Wood County is the “bellweather” in NW OH. The article missed BGSU, which is hugely important to Obama. We were invited to an event he did there to help with getting contact #’s for students. We met Obama, which was fun.

    Wood has a really active Tea Party, but they actually got elected locally and did a terrible job, so that may end up helping him.

    The county chair there is younger, and he’s ambitious, so he’s going to be very motivated. He won a caucus and was an Obama delegate this year, so he’s very fired up.

  103. 103.

    Quaker in a Basement

    October 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    C’mon people! It’s plain as the nose on your face! The divorce papers will show that Obama isn’t a citizen!!!1!11

  104. 104.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    October 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    Trump’s investigators managed to snag a copy of Obama’s long-form birth certificate, the one with the infant footprints.

    BUT, he also got a source in the FBI to get Obama’s fingerprints…

    AND THEY DON’T MATCH! SCANDAL!!!!11!!

  105. 105.

    Scott S.

    October 23, 2012 at 8:36 pm

    The more Trump talks, the better things get for Obama. When Trump was in the race, my father — who is as Republican as the day is long — called me to tell me that if Trump was the nominee, he would enthusiastically pull the lever for Obama.

    If the Obama campaign isn’t already working to make sure Trump — and Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck and Ann Coulter– are all over the evening news for the next two weeks, they really ought to start working on that. They’re only popular with the looniest of the loons, not with non-crazy people.

  106. 106.

    MJ

    October 23, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @Original Lee: For your wife re: “apology tour”
    factcheck.org/2012/08/romneys-sorry-apology-tour-dig/

  107. 107.

    Culture of Truth

    October 23, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    Meanwhile, the Apology Tour stuff has been discussed so much that my normally rational Original Spouse is now saying that Obama did too apologize. I am looking for a good debunking of that

    Here’s your debunking: “prove it”

  108. 108.

    gex

    October 23, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @gelfling545: That was the response to me saying two things: Mitt Romney said he’d consider himself unqualified to be president if he overpaid taxes. Mitt Romney released tax returns showing he overpaid by 5%.

    It was so maddening. Without discussing any other issues, just the word of their candidate, we shouldn’t vote for him. And that was the response. It’s all blind allegiance and hatred of the other.

  109. 109.

    maya

    October 23, 2012 at 8:42 pm

    With Trump’s $$$ you’d think he could afford better hair transplants – perhaps from one of the Kardashians even.

  110. 110.

    lamh35

    October 23, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    what would be worse, Obamas divorce or Obama as young cocaine dealer (allegedly some other possible conspiracy from trump) and Gloria Allred finding Mitt Romney’s jumpoff????

  111. 111.

    MikeJ

    October 23, 2012 at 8:43 pm

    Thabk god we have trump to tell us about family values:

    She does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.

  112. 112.

    MikeJ

    October 23, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    @MikeJ: And why has the comment editor (you know, click to edit an existing comment) been coming up with an empty frame for me all day?

  113. 113.

    TheMightyTrowel

    October 23, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    OT: Have finally managed to get my mom weened off CNN. She’s a stalwart lefty (i have three cousins working in MA campaigns – one for Warren, two for local candidates as well as a few union organisors – it’s in our blood), but loved her TV news. I haven’t quite got her reading blogs, but I think her blood pressure is better now that she’s not having to questions everything she knows whenever Wolf Blitzer opens his pie hole.

  114. 114.

    maya

    October 23, 2012 at 8:45 pm

    The Obama divorce scandal is already on the cover of the Inquirer. Seen it in the local super today. It was an inset right next to something about Mitt being arrested in a public park once.

  115. 115.

    TheMightyTrowel

    October 23, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    @maya: Toe tapping Mitt! I love it!

  116. 116.

    Frodo

    October 23, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    Given the last “bombshells” from the conservative swamp (Obama once hugged a black professor! Obama once spoke at a black church!), I strongly suspect Trump’s revelation is just going to be some more racist crap about President Obama being a blah person in White House.

  117. 117.

    LesGS

    October 23, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.): OT: Please don’t “insult” Ann Coulter by suggesting she’s trans. It hurts our (transfolks) feelings when people do.

    On topic: Even the majority of Freepers think dragging up possible past thoughts of divorce between the Obamas is a very stupid thing to do. Many of them are even saying it’s a terrible thing to spring on the Obamas’ daughters, that a lot of couples have tough times and even giving kudos to the Obamas for sticking together.

    Of course, a number of them are also being pretty disgusting in the very same thread…

  118. 118.

    Jay

    October 23, 2012 at 8:48 pm

    Because Trump and Romney are both gaping a-holes, I have to ask: when is Gloria Allred going to release what she has on the Mittster?

  119. 119.

    Jay

    October 23, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    @TheMightyTrowel: #widestance

  120. 120.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    @Frodo:

    I heard a rumor that Obama has a black child!

  121. 121.

    Linda Featheringill

    October 23, 2012 at 8:50 pm

    @kay:

    Do we have any info on early voters in Ohio?

  122. 122.

    Mnemosyne

    October 23, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @MikeJ:

    I just tried to edit something and got the “you do not have permission to edit this comment” message, so there must be something hinky going on.

  123. 123.

    TaMara (BHF)

    October 23, 2012 at 8:52 pm

    This seems very familiar. I’m sure I’ve heard this before. Somewhere…

    Remember the Alimony

    Trump needs new material. Something after 1961.

  124. 124.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    @Frodo:

    That’s the thing, though. I don’t know why it doesn’t bother people MORE.

    Why is Donald Trump still walking around with people shaking his hand and being seen with him?

    It’s like these repulsive grifters wake up every day and say “how can we make this country more horrible and sleazy?” Then they double down the next day.

  125. 125.

    James E. Powell

    October 23, 2012 at 8:57 pm

    This whole thing sounds like bullshit to me. People who have good stuff to release don’t announce that they are going to release it, they release it.

    Why fall for it?

  126. 126.

    j

    October 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    @Quaker in a Basement: It’s ALL designed to try to tie into that “Obama is a HO-MO and is secretly married to Kal Penn” BS Jerome Corsi is now trying to sell.

    Weak gruel is all they have left.

  127. 127.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    October 23, 2012 at 9:02 pm

    If it’s bigger than Trump’s combover then it’s REALLY big.

  128. 128.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    October 23, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Wow, I heard the same rumor but it was that Obama has TWO black children! I guess I’m further down the telephone line than you are.

  129. 129.

    gex

    October 23, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @David in NY: What I take from that is that there’s a difference between a marriage and a business partnership.

  130. 130.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    @Linda Featheringill:

    The early voting measure is so complicated I wouldn’t rely on it. We just have partisan ID’s ( as you know, we ID as partisans with a primary vote in OH) and because Dems didn’t have a primary, those numbers are stale.

    Plus, we have the added complication of everyone getting an absentee application.

    I’m just taking the campaigns word for it when they say early voting #’s are “fantastic”. It’s too freaking complicated for me to figure out :)

  131. 131.

    barath

    October 23, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    Just so everyone knows – Doug Kass likes to pretend to be a Democrat, and claims so frequently when he attacks Obama, but if you look at his donation record he gave the maximum to Romney in the *last election*, when no real Dem would have given to any GOPer.

  132. 132.

    Exurban Mom

    October 23, 2012 at 9:06 pm

    @Linda Featheringill: Lots of early voting going on. My county is up to double where it was this time four years ago in terms of early voters.

    Also, see this: abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/obama-campaign-sees-edge-in-early-vote/

    nut graf: “Public polls show Obama holds double-digit leads among people who have already voted in Iowa, Ohio and Wisconsin, states where in-person early voting is allowed. Obama also leads in North Carolina.”

  133. 133.

    JenJen

    October 23, 2012 at 9:12 pm

    @kay: Great stuff. Thank you so much. I’m such a county-level nerd.

  134. 134.

    Strontium 90

    October 23, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    Wasn’t Breitbart going to do some vetting or some such? Wait, he was silenced before the truth could come out…

  135. 135.

    kay

    October 23, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @JenJen:

    It was the first place Sherrod’s campaign manager set up shop. She’s from Iowa, and she ran Kirstan Gillibrand’s campaign prior to this one. She wanted Michigan or Ohio in 2012 and she chose Ohio, a decision I hope she doesn’t regret, considering how much shit they’ve thrown at Brown.

  136. 136.

    Uncle Ebeneezer

    October 23, 2012 at 9:23 pm

    @Quicksand: Oh man. I’ve read hundreds of comments by SL (some of my favorite snark) and never made the connection on his name. And I’ve done so on more than one occasion while wearing a freakin’ “2112” tee shirt!! Doh….

  137. 137.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 23, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @Jay in Oregon: Ha!

    Perhaps we on the Left should just ignore Trump. He’s really not all that fascinating — kind of like Palin. I used to watch Celebrity Apprentice, but after Trump went full Birther, I gave it up.

    President Obama and Michelle seem to be a very contented, committed, loving couple. This “reveal” is nonsense.

  138. 138.

    Jimmy Jelly

    October 23, 2012 at 9:39 pm

    This is complete and utter bullshit. After years of wingnuts digging endlessly for scandals involving the president and, after all of these efforts, having to resort to the invention of scandals out of thin air, it makes absolutely no sense that Trump has finally found anything of significance. If there were any dirt, they’d have found it already and thrown the black guy out of office long ago. After this stunt, Trump should be chained to Romney’s leg and promptly thrown overboard.

  139. 139.

    David in NY

    October 23, 2012 at 9:58 pm

    Ignore Trump. Yes.

  140. 140.

    Heliopause

    October 23, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    If true, this would be news, why? Who cares? Does anyone give a shit?

    Wouldn’t change my personal opinion of Barack Obama in the slightest, and I’m guessing this means that BJ FPers are officially adopting the position that the personal lives of major politicians are of no interest.

  141. 141.

    Shrillhouse

    October 23, 2012 at 10:25 pm

    If people find out that the Obamas went through a rough patch and almost divorced, the president is doomed. No one will vote for someone who shows loyalty and commitment. Sorry folks, but that’s politics 101./Halperin

  142. 142.

    tam

    October 23, 2012 at 10:45 pm

    @Jimmy Jelly:

    If there were any dirt, they’d have found it already and thrown the black guy out of office long ago.

    The reason I’m not worried about Trump’s “surprise” is I can’t believe his oppo researchers would be better than the Clintons’.

  143. 143.

    KXB

    October 23, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    Radar is saying the “surprise” is that Obama sold coke as an undergrad.

  144. 144.

    YellowJournalism

    October 23, 2012 at 11:02 pm

    @j: Kal Penn should be so lucky. Michelle would totally kick his ass in a fight for POTUS, too.

  145. 145.

    Smedley the Uncertain

    October 23, 2012 at 11:18 pm

    @GregB: I hope it was consensual??

  146. 146.

    karen

    October 23, 2012 at 11:43 pm

    The cocaine dealer in college thing would be the right wing’s wetdream because it is KILLING THEM that there will never be a stained blue dress in Obama’s life or a love child and FINALLY they would have something they can hang the black stereotype on.

  147. 147.

    WWStBreitbartD

    October 24, 2012 at 7:44 am

    Yet I’ll bet the same people denouncing Trump support Gloria Allred Trying to Unseal Court Records In Someone Else’s Divorce.

  148. 148.

    Jason

    October 24, 2012 at 9:07 am

    @JGabriel: Actually, I think Doug was poking fun at the Great Orange Idiot.

    Doug Kass may be an investor, but I’ve never seen him delusionally stupid.

  149. 149.

    nemesis

    October 24, 2012 at 9:39 am

    Oh snap! Gamechanger right there.

    And never forget: BIRF CERTIFICATE!!1!

  150. 150.

    g

    October 24, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Release sensitive and private information about the President’s personal life?

    Trump obviously is too dumb to understand that doing something like this results in blow-back, telling the whole world that he’s the kind of low-down gossip-hound who’d do this.

    Although, to be fair, I don’t think Trump’s reputation can be damaged any further than it is.

  151. 151.

    g

    October 24, 2012 at 10:04 am

    @kay:

    Why is Donald Trump still walking around with people shaking his hand and being seen with him?

    Indeed, it’s a puzzle.

  152. 152.

    g

    October 24, 2012 at 10:05 am

    What’s truly hilarious to me is that he’s decided to TWEET his bombshell! Like, a 140 character phrase from him is going to derail an election.

  153. 153.

    patrick

    October 24, 2012 at 11:25 am

    good thing Newt wasn’t the republican nominee, as his marital situation would have totally defused this stunning revelation….I mean, come on, just think if this had come out in 2008, when Obama was running against McCain….oh, wait…didn’t McCain divorce his crippled wife to marry a beauty pageant winner?

  154. 154.

    tinare

    October 24, 2012 at 11:43 am

    @KXB:

    Well, there goes Republican’s criticisms of the President as lacking business experience. He ran a small business in college!

    :)

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