Ladies and Gentlemen, your Republican Party (from TPM):
DOSWELL, VA — The crowd at Mitt Romney’s rally here Thursday lacked the partisan fire of the people who showed up to celebrate Paul Ryan’s addition to the ticket or the over-the-moon optimism of the ones who appeared in the wake of his first debate victory. Instead the prevailing mood was one of exhausted, hard-earned hope. Romney was still in the game and that was enough for now.
“I’m cautiously optimistic,” Errol Hoffler, 72, told TPM, citing Obama’s struggles to win over independent voters in the polls. But he still had his concerns over what he acknowledged was a tight race.
“He’s ignoring the Constitution, trying to become a dictator and make us dependent on the government,” he said. “I don’t think a good portion of America realizes what he’s doing — if they did he’d lose in a landslide.”
Yes, a dictator. Making us dependent on the government, by, you know helping make health care a little more affordable. Oh, the horror. Sadly, Mr. Hoffler is the least of the douchebags.
Consider Kurt Johnson:
Kurt Johnson, 62, a who works in the chemical business in the Richmond area, said he was “enthusiastic” about the election but worried too many people see Obama as “hip, cool, and sympathetic.”
“Michael Jordan could be president on that basis,” he said. “I don’t mean to sound glib, but are we electing someone to know the top hip hop songs — or to get the job done?”
Get it folks? The President is a Negro! He probably plays rap music in the Oval Office. And everyone know the Founding Fathers would only have approved of country music. Don’t worry Mr. Johnson. You don’t sound glib. You just sound like an ignorant, raging racist asshole.
Lisa Beazley, 51, said she was “praying very hard and hoping people have common sense” ahead of election day. The stakes felt especially high for her, having lost her job as a medical assistant earlier in the year.
“I wasn’t looking for a miracle, it’s a tough job,” she said of the president. “But [the recovery] is just not here.”
Beazley hoped Romney would make “big changes” in health care and economic policy, but she was afraid Obama’s message might have too big a following to put a Republican in office.
“I still worry Obama has a shot,” she said. “There’s a lot of people out there that do depend on the welfare system and it worries me. I’m not saying I’m against the system — we all need it from time to time — but you also have to help yourself. You can’t be on it forever.”
See, when Ms. Beazley collects unemployment — as she presumably did upon losing her job — that is something you need from time to time. But, Those People just stay are welfare forever, driving around in Cadillacs while their sons eat T-Bone steaks.
Ugh. But God forbid we point out that these people are ignorant and racist lest we make David Broder’s corpse have a sad.
A new wingnut trope I’m seeing these days is that people only voted for Obama in 2008 “to prove they weren’t racist”. So now that the total non-racist nature of white American society has been proven, white people are all now supposed to do the default thing and vote for Romney.
f space that
Well it is only about 30 miles north of the former capitol of the CSA.
That’s almost exactly the theme of a recent George Will column – sure, making a black guy President ALMOST proved we aren’t racists, but to REALLY prove it, we need to fire him!
Just Some Fuckhead
Imagine how surprised Ms. Beazley will be to find out the welfare reform act from almost 20 years ago put a 5 year lifetime cap on welfare assistance.
She’ll be free to vote for Democrats.
@f space that: Yea and the same motherfuckers are 30 miles north of Flint.
It makes perfect sense. Everyone knows god only listens to country music and approves of cutting back social programs and regulations. It’s in the bible and the constitution. So pray with me………..sigh.
I am so gonna enjoy watching these people cry in their don’t tread on me t-shirts Nov 07. Although 4 more years of them yelling “impeach” and hearing how Faux is saying Obama stole the election with food stamps or whatever is going to get a bit tiring.
You make it sound like making David Broder’s corpse have a sad is a bad thing.
@LD50: That’s been around for a while. The common wingnut-meme form goes something like:
“You voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you’re not a racist, now vote against him to prove you’re not stupid!”
What struck me when I read that article was how there was no one quoted under 50. At least explicitly and even then there were hints that they fell in the same age range (descriptions of them being retired school secretaries etc.) If I’m the GOP that has to terrify me.
Sweet Jesus, why , oh, why, is it impossible when interviewing these people, to just ask them a straight foward follow-up question? Like….”What do you mean ‘ignoring the Constitution? Do you have an example?” Or…” What ‘big changes’ are you hoping Romney will make in health care?”
it’s not that hard.
If only something would happen that would improve people’s access to healthcare, her job prospects might improve.
Interesting that she’s a Medical Assistant. It’s a quick and easy certification to get that gives quick access to low paying jobs in the medical field. It’s meant to be a stepping stone, not a career field.
Ugh, it just ratchets up my anger and frustration to read this stuff cause it’s everywhere. They actually believe all this stuff. That’s what’s so unnerving. They believe these patently untrue stuff about the President because they’ve been fed it constantly by conservative media. They live in a whole other universe.
Driving behind a Honda CR-V this afternoon late and in addition to the Romney Ryan sticker they had another one that read “RESTORE AMERICA”. I actually yelled “Racist” aloud in my own vehicle. So wish they’d been stopped by a traffic light as I would have pulled alongside and asked them “Restore America to what and to whom?”, just so’s they’d answer it.
In a sort of sick way, I almost miss Trollitical Observer chiming in about how the left is the real racists for pointing out the racism of the actual racists.
Then I have a good slug of cheap scotch and come back to my senses. (For the purists out there: I would NEVER take a “good slug” of good scotch, because that’s sort of a sin.)
@penpen: Yes, that’s almost verbatim what I’ve been seeing wingnuts say on Facebook. I swear they all receive a copy of the same daily script every morning on email.
“I don’t mean to sound glib, but are we electing someone to know the top hip hop songs — or to get the job done?”
Just to be clear, I wouldn’t necessarily vote for someone purely on the basis of their hip hop knowledge. But I sure would give them careful consideration.
Romney is none of these things, so I guess it’s a match made in heaven.
How much dumber are 30+% of Americans because of Fox News?
No, succeeding right wing propaganda machine.
Post deleted because FYWP.
I’m so sick of these fucking people. I’m ready to get violent with the next person who uses the word “socialist” without having clue one about the definition. And here in NC, even after the churches and wingnuts got their way on Amendment One, I’m still seeing signs that exhort “VOTE THE BIBLE.” In smaller text is, of course, “Take America Back.” I hate these people, I really do.
If Obama wins, I wonder if we’ll have wingnut riots and shit. Not the namby pamby tea party pussies prancing around with witch doctor signs, but the real deal. Like the anarchists provide at world economic events.
It would be kind of cool to see blubbery white boys taking to the streets to protest the man. After having been the man from day one. It is going to happen, whether this election, or ones down the road. The writing is on the wall. Painted in rainbow.
To maintain my cheerful disposition (hah!) I try to hold on to the sane realization that there aren’t really that many more ignorant m0therfnckers in the country than there have always been, even with the efforts of Fox News and the like to groom as many people as possible to keep them all fat and angry: it’s just that with an election coming up people like this, who existed anyway, have a rally at which to congregate and a reporter happy to stick a microphone in their gob.
@General Stuck: Where, the mean streets of fucking Mayberry? Where do you think you are, Belfast?
Shouldn’t it be: “You voted against Obama in 2008 because you were stupid, now vote FOR him to prove you’ve gotten smarter.”
Plus, it has the added benefit of all the words (except “Obama” and “2008”, I guess) having fewer than three syllables.
Mike in NC
Old white people want their country (the CSA) back.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
I had to stop one of my coworkers pulling a “Obama is allowing all sorts of voting fraud to occur so he can get reelected.” When I pointed out that even our own AG, Republican Greg Abbott of Texas, investigated and found no evidence of voting fraud, he gave me the look that says “And that just means it’s happening.” I did get a little irritated and point out that most of the cases I keep hearing about have occurred because of Republicans, and that those wouldn’t have been solved via voter ID. He rolled his eyes when I pointed out that what they did here in Texas amounts to poll taxing.
@quannlace: I know. Our media is awful. I wonder if they even know what a follow up question is.
If some pol, in his or her stump speech said e.g., “As Jeru The Damaja once memorably put it…” Now I’m paying attention.
True, I may never have read the Constitution or anything the Founders wrote, by I know that they are write, and that the Constitution says what I think it says.
James E. Powell
it’s just that with an election coming up people like this, who existed anyway, have a rally at which to congregate and a reporter happy to stick a microphone in their gob.
It’s more than that and worse than that.
The reporter doesn’t just stick a microphone in their faces, he presents them as those hard-workin’ Real Muricans who are good-hearted and honest and not one bit racist or ignorant.
As quannlace said above, why not ask them what they hell they are talking about? Why not get them to explain themselves? I mean, as a curiosity, or as part of doing one’s job as a journalism, isn’t the reporter even a little interested in how these people come to believe so many things that are plainly not true?
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
OT, but where is Mitt’s second tax return? I know he didn’t promise to release it before the election (I noted the weaselly “by the end of the year” at the time) but since releasing it after the election is a meaningless gesture, someone in the press needs to ask the question.
Our wonderful press. Such professionals.
Directly from a FB friend:
This was attached to some BS Lindsey Graham sob story on Fox. This person seriously believes that Obama is changing the law to become president-for-life!
@James E. Powell: Follow-up questions are the small H holocaust of political reporting. If you do it you’re as bad as that shitty Austrian vegetarian painter.
Yep, anyone who gets emails and communications from several of them has long ago figured this out. The first one I remember was “ACORN”!!!!!
Oh I don’t think she’d be wrong there, probably even more disappointed, but not wrong (isn’t that what’s most important you fricking blind puke.)
BTW the title of this post could be an update on a RatM song – seeing as they’re back on speaking terms last I heard, they can start off their set with “‘Holes on Parade” (que the wah pedal Tom…)
Wow. That’s some hyperactive bullshit. My comment was mostly snark, but not completely. Pry yourself from the boob tube ball games and think about stuff before popping off.
That makes my day.
Not quite as good as the sports reporter who said a manager was “literally sweating bullets,” but close.
Why are stupid people so attracted to other stupid people?
@LD50: I guess that’s what happens when the backbone of your party is old white people breathlessly forwarding each other mind-numbingly stupid, fact-free chain e-mails.
There is no point in talking to any of these people. It’s all about tribalism. They are bigoted morons. We don’t have to talk to them we just have to beat them.
And here she is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/60s-Mrs-Beasley-Doll-/230874518026?pt=US_Dolls_Bears_Toys&hash=item35c131920a
@General Stuck: Fuck you, the Hokies are stinkin it up and I’m in no mood.
@Raven: But look on the bright side. You’re just getting warmed up for when UGA throws away their SEC Championship opportunity and it goes back to UF.
@The Bobs: He released it a few weeks back, along with “summaries” of his 2010 and earlier returns.
@El Cid: All I want to know is where did all my freedoms go? I looked in my closet and under my bed and I can’t find them.
I predict Fox Nooz will call the election for Romney within 5 minutes of the closing of east coast polls. Like, what’s the problem with that?
@Cassidy: Someone asked earlier if anyone here made $1000 bets.
It is a highly fungible backbone with a short shelf life. The hippies and unicorns will pick their bones under the American sun.
@Jewish Steel: And you are cracking me up.
@dww44: “RESTORE AMERICA”
@merrinc: “Take America Back”
I’m thinking that like the “in bed” fortune cookie meme, most Republican slogans are improved by adding, “… for white people.”
@James E. Powell:
You really think so? Because the article I read presents them as a bunch of ignorant hypocrites who can’t quite suppress their own racism.
When your enemies are hanging themselves you don’t have to ask follow-up questions. You just spool out more rope.
There appears to be a very large crowd for President Obama in
CO. Maybe they are only there looking for their freedoms but I doubt it. link
Stupid people are probably attracted to stupid people because the smart people either backed away slowly, speaking in soothing tones, or ran away screaming.
Epic fail… Did anyone else notice that WMR, Taco, et al, says that WMR stands for ‘William’ Romney, not Willard?
Okay .. why does it say reply instead of link? Anyway if you hit reply it will link to the speech…
@Bernard Finel, top;
These are simple people. The salt of the earth. The common clay of the new west. You know…morons.
Seriously, the biggest problem with middle class and lower class conservatives is that they are OK with living under a tarp and a refrigerator box under the overpass and roasting a sparrow on a stick so long as the other guy has neither a stick nor a sparrow.
@Raven: I don’t make bets with money I don’t have, but if I had disposable income, I would bet that UGA flakes out and then my Gators lose to Bama again.
Our local state senator, Greg Ball, who has Ambitions, has finally gone where we knew he’d go: his latest piece of campaign material warns us that people are using welfare money to gamble and buy booze and cigarettes, but our Greg Ball will prevent that from happening, while his opponent (whom he never calls by his real name, but refers to as “Whacky Wagner”) wants more people to be on welfare!
He just needed the young bucks and the T-bone steaks to have it all. Asshole. I was always planning to vote against him, but this just makes it easier.
@Cassidy: “Your” Gators suck.
@Soonergrunt: You get to run around strapped now?
@Mike in NC: hey! i’m an old white person (66 in 3 weeks). please don’t paint us all with the same brush.
@Raven: Spoken like a true dawg. Get one decent win and all of a sudden so cocky.
@Cassidy: 10 in a row last year, 7-1 this year. Tell me about it.
@Raven: You’re gonna choke. lol
You should unfriend that person immediately. Shame them into sense.
Don’t mean to rain on the parade, but it seems to me the first guy deserves our sympathy rather than ridicule. The second guy isn’t making a racial statement, he’s just saying the knowing lyrics to popular toooons isn’t a good reason to vote for a guy.
I don’t think either of these guys is evil/racist/assholish. They just have a different perspective. One that we – as liberals – can surely understand if we take about a half-second to put ourselves in something akin to their shoes.
@Cassidy: Look for me in the 1st row of the upper deck by the bugle. I’ll be doing the sissy gator chop.
Goddamn Hokies fumble on the goal line!
@shortstop: that’s the word-up that’s heard-up :)
@Stillwater: Thank you for your concern.
My own personal version of 2008 naivete was that I really thought white America was ready for a black president. I still think it would have been okay with it had George W. Bush and his Goldman cronies not turned the entire national economy into ‘Lord of the Flies’ writ large.
I used to be sympathetic to all the fear and anxiety and economic regression that’s made them so susceptible to the lies, but, at this point I’m past caring what the 60% of whites who’ve joined the Confederate Army think and I’m well into “yes, he’s black, just get the fuck over it, bitches,” territory.
@Stillwater: I have some lyrics for you:
But come on come on down sweet virginia
Come on honey child I beg of you
Come on come on down you got it in you
Got to scrape that shit right off your shoes
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Raven: Having a bit of a bad season there? Or is it just an old white guy thing?
I hope your lovely bride is on the mend. Working the diet to reduce inflammation will help as much as anything. It’s no fun.
The President of the United States of America is now giving a great speech. Being a partisan he probable loves GA, FL and all the teams. .
maybe his love won’t help CO teams though
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Two bad seasons and one good one. The Illini may be the worst team in college football, I think the Hokies will pull this out but they are bad.
She’s not making a great deal of progress but it’s looking like busting her ass slipping on the porch may have pushed her over the edge on the Sacroiliac joint dysfunction. That combined with her age and shit.
@Stillwater: Your concern, Toiletwater, is noted and summarily ignored.
Also, too, the mobile version of this post appears to be well and truly fucked. Free-floating comments and zero background elements.
Staten Island folks bitchin like mad about not getting any help. “They are pumping water out of the tunnel for the marathon and we are pulling bodies out of the water”.
James E. Powell
My own personal version of 2008 naivete was that I really thought white America was ready for a black president.
Yeah, me too. I knew we’d never drag the 27% into the 21 century; the future is what they are most afraid of. But I thought that amorphous mass of politically unaffiliated white voters would be okay with it, that they would judge Obama as they would judge any white male in the same position. I was really wrong.
And another thing. I did not expect that the corporate press/media would aid and abet the racist revanche that began weeks into Obama’s administration. I mean, seriously, did anyone really think the Tea Party was about the deficit, or that what they were saying about the deficit wasn’t the same old Republican “they’re takin’ our money and givin’ it to the [insert racist epithet]”?
@Stillwater: Are you watching this parade with us or are you marching in it?
Random thought. This is admittedly unscientific, but hear me out.
It’s known that the president receives the BLS unemployment numbers the day before their official Friday release each month. I’ve noticed in past months that Obama has seemed relatively subdued the Thursdays before a crappy or mediocre jobs report. A prominent example, for me, was Obama’s convention speech the day before a disappointing report for August.
Today, Obama looked positively supercharged. Admittedly, quite a bit of that is likely due to The Math showing a resilient and widening polling lead over Romney, and some of it is from Chris Christie’s support, etc., but a part of me wonders if some of the bounce in his step today may have been due to his having previewed strong September unemployment numbers. Not that the figures will be spectacular, and not that it will make much difference this late in the game, but if I’m right about this, the BLS numbers could be decent to good, further showing an economy on a true mend.
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
The “voting fraud” your coworker implicitly has in mind is that people whom he thinks *should* be ineligible to vote because they’re freeloaders voting to burden productive people like himself, have been allowed to vote and that’s why the country’s in the mess it’s in. That’s the real justification he has in mind for restrictions to be put in place to reduce their numbers enough to prevent their political enablers from being elected to office, but he knows he can’t openly admit he’s for voter suppression of those “others” without appearing overtly racist. And so instead, he’ll stubbornly resist accepting the legitimacy of any purported facts or logic contradicting the need for measures to prevent voter fraud, at least the kind of measures he’s supporting.
@LD50: It’s not just right-wingnuts, I’ve heard it from purer-than-thou lefties and libertarians as well: “you liberals thought he’d be better than Bush just because he was black; I hope you’ve learned your lesson.”
@James E. Powell: I feel like this is really an excellent description of what I’ve been struggling to articulate.
As an historian, I see the long historical patterns. There are not, indeed, any more idiots in the American population than normal, the press at times has been equally horrific (and far, far more partisan), and the parties have been at times exceedingly nasty toward the opposition.
What frustrates the hell out of me is this – that the ignorant people are allowed to spew their idiotic nonsense, and the people who _give them that microphone_ are too craven to investigate further the source of *patently false* narratives.
When the meteor hits, can we *_please_* push the journalists in front of it. Just for that instant, where they’re all obliterated, the rest of us could bask in the satisfaction…
So thanks. That helped me feel better.
So are they saying he isn’t better than Bush? Because if they are, then one of us was in some other reality from 2000-2009.
Jay in Oregon
“Please continue, Governor.”
Some enterprising team needs to find a way to change a few of those to “VOTE THE BOOK OF MORMON.” Since everything conservative Southern churches have been saying about the Latter Day Saints for the past century is suddenly no longer operative for some mysterious reason.
@General Stuck: I disagree. The US has 8% unemployment and a much better safety net than in the 1930’s. During the depression it was 25% and we still did not have violent revolution.
Do the 92% with jobs revolt over an election?
I figure muddling through continues.
Unemployment was 47% when Germany decided to give Hitler a chance.
They rejected the Nazis in 1923 nearer to the hyperinflation.
If I wasn’t mostly joking, I would disagree with me too. Mostly
@Felonius Monk: Are you watching this parade with us or are you marching in it?
Dude, I don’t even know what that means. But a couple of old guys who express pretty benign statements about their political views doesn’t mean the GOP is a bunch of assholes. I mean, can’t we find enough shitty things said by people who actually matter to gripe about? Or do we have to dig into the weeds of 72 crazy year olds to find something to shit on?
I think this post and the comments says more about liberals than it does the GOP.
@Stillwater: Kinda privileged, aint ya?
Dude. I’m a liberal. Privilege has nothing to do with it. If you think scraping the bottom of the barrel for shit to feel good about, then have at it.
@Stillwater: you are loog conditioned to bend over backwards to accomodate the libertarian viewpoint. but youre polite. so you got that going for ya.
Do you not understand what will happen if Obama wins the EC and Romney wins the popular vote? There will be a sudden pressure by the right wing saying that Obama only won technically but because the country and world wants Romney, Obama should be decent and step aside because that’s what real America wants.
Of course they’re wrong and it is the law but once that happens?
I predict this will happen:
They’re talking up the mittmomentum so they can claim fraud in Obama wins the EC and there has already been signs they’re cheating already so if they try to steal the election they can claim that the mittmomentum was real and fuck Nate Silver because he’s gay…fuckers. I totally expect them to cheat and steal.
The N Clang will become the full N word and the media will make it more acceptable.
There will be more talks of militias (like Akin supported in the Oklahoma City bombing) and more talk of 2nd Amendment solutions…they won’t tell people to kill Obama but they’ll encourage it in such a way that their own hands don’t get dirty. And I predict that by the end of the year there will be an attempt against Obama, probably on Election Day if he wins the EC.
They’re creaming because they think that with Libya, they finally found an impeach window and they will do that within the first week.
Do you get the feeling that I’ve become a big ball of hate for Republicans and Right Tea Party nutcases and expect the very worst out of him? And that I really feel that Romney would rent his wife Ann and his kids to the highest bidder if it would guarantee him the Presidency.
Am I exaggerating? I wish but I honestly don’t know anymore. If chairs have nooses around them, I have no faith in the other side as decent human beings anymore and it’s sad and pathetic.
@Stillwater: Empathy, sure. Sympathy? Defend that one.
Get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.
Even if I put myself in their shoes, I wouldn’t come to the same conclusions they do. I suspect i’m much better informed than they are. I am not subjected to hate radio 24/7 nor do I watch much TV. I can honestly say that I have never watched any FoKKKs “news” program in my entire life. I have watched clips of notably heinous moments on FoKKKs. That’s it. So I don’t live in an alternate universe and I have more than a tenuous grasp on reality most of the time. In what world is Obama “ignoring the constitution and trying to become a dictator”? And that 51 year old medical assisstant who lost her job, what are her chances of paying for medical insurance until she’s old enough to get her Medicare vouchers
from Romneyy/Ryan? And does she really think she’ll be able to stay on unemployment under R&R? She’s one of the 47%, a parasite. They won’t be representing her. She’d be much better off under an Obama presidency where she can get healthcare under Obamacare. And the hip hop musci guy-yes, I would say he’s a racist. And Hoffer better prepare to use his Medicare vouchers efficiently and learn how to negotiate for the best health care deals in the insurance market. I don’t really care if they suffer as a result of their ignorance, but I hate it that the rest of us will have to suffer with them if Romney wins.
And yet, here’s an old white guy talking about another black man as a candidate – one who is not particularly known for his musical chops – and associating hip hop knowledge with qualifications, etc. I guess because the guy didn’t talk about Common going to the White House, or about Skip Gates having a beer (or maybe it was a Colt?), or about O’Sambo making chitterlings the official White House food, then it’s all good, and there’s no underlying racism at play, nosirree!
Interestingly, this not-racist guy chose NOT to mention any cool, hip white person as an example, or quasi-“white” music genre as being a poor reason to vote for someone. Now why, I wonder, would that be? Could there POSSIBLY be another reason besides whatever evokes sympathy or (gasp!) empathy? Thinking, thinking …
But thanks so much for your concern! It has been duly noted, and will be given all the consideration it deserves.
Ms Beazley is a Medical Assistant. MA’s are the women (almost always) who take your vitals at the docots office. They make about $11.hour and MA jobs are rather plentiful, so it hard for me to work up much sympathy for Ms Beazley.
If I took your comment at face value, I’d guess you were one of those liberals Robert Frost warned us about–“the kind who won’t take his own side in an argument.”
But since you don’t recognize how comparing Obama to Michael Jordan or implying that he’s only elected “to know the top hip hop songs” is a racial statement, I’m pretty sure I know which side of the argument you’re actually on.
So Greg Ball earns his living from a gummit paycheck. Did anyone ever tell Greg that as a result of living off the gummit teat that he was only allowed to purchase certain items with his income? No, thats never happened, but there might be welfare folks using their gummit checks to buy (gasp) lotto tickets and 40’s. So fucking what. Once that check is in hand, that money cant be limited to only purchases that are acceptable to Mr Ball or that would be gummit overreach, right?.
Since I (and my family – brother, sister, and bother-in-law) are the exceptions, we live surrounded by this Faux News/Rushbimbo noise and racial resentment. As I think Digby noted a month ago, when my friends lose their jobs and get unemployment. take food stamps, or retire with Medicare and Social Security, they are surprised, and think there must be some special benefits for the “those people” since they get T-bones and drive Cadillacs while they are reduced to eating peanut butter and cat food.
@Stillwater: Wow. You should apply for your Punditry license because you can pull it outta your ass with the best of em.
There has been a crushing lurch to the far right by the gop. The party acknowledges it cant win forever with old white angry folks dying of in years to come. gop solution? Move farther right. Folks who were interviewed do in fact represent a very large component of the overall conservative spectrum.
Question: who is the latest moderate gop member to be elected to office? Now, lets count the number of far right radicals elected to office. Numbers tell us something if we believe in science and shit.
Paul in KY
@Kitty: Your FB ‘friend’ is an idiot. But I assume you already knew that.
Paul in KY
@Nora: ‘Whacky Wagner’, has a ring to it…
Paul in KY
@Raven: Go Canes!!!!
Is that one of those trick questions like “Where do they bury the survivors?”
Hi Ms Beazley, I’ve got the Welfare Reform Act of 1996 on the line for you.
This belong here in this thread from the author of The No Asshole Rule.
Check out the rest of his site as well.
Bernard, I’m sorry to inform you that you are not keeping up with your wing-nut tropes.
Cadillacs and t-bones is so eighties. The current trope du jour (thanks to Iowa Rep, Steve King) is gucci bags and massage parlors.
Please try and stay current. These wing-nuts can be fabulously creative in their use of language.
Reading thru this thread has been entertaining. It’s all out war, I tell ya! Liberals v conservatives! Cage match to the death!
Argument, of course, has nothing to do with it. Even attacking some old dude who just doesn’t matter doesn’t matter. It’s about emotional intensity! And the fear of fucking losing, bro! No one likes a loser. Those fucking losers are losers, bro! Know what I mean?
Now, who’s teeth are we gonna kick in next?
How does that license attacking an individual dude out there who’s just honestly expressing his views? He might be wrong about those views, of course. And we might disagree with what he’s saying. We may even have the facts on our side. But why attack him personally? Is it really a battle between life and death?
Look, I’m not saying that GOP people aren’t crazy on average. I’m not even saying their ideas deserve respect. But the folks who hold those views are exactly the same type of folks as our mothers and fathers, our children…
We disagree with them. That’s all. We try to persuade people that our side has the right ideas. That our policies are better. But this incessant attacking – of a 72 year old dude!!! That’s fucking ridiculous.