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You are here: Home / Past Elections / Election 2012 / Friday Evening Open Thread: Spin Faster!

Friday Evening Open Thread: Spin Faster!

by Anne Laurie|  November 2, 20124:59 pm| 301 Comments

This post is in: Election 2012, Open Threads

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(Jack Ohman via GoComics.com)
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I had to go back to check the header “with apologies to The Onion” — parodying a Romney ad is just impossible at this point. Steve Stromberg at the Washington Post “Summing Up the Romney Campaign“:

… Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign on Thursday released a new ad that GOP advisers say epitomizes his years of running for president.

The spot depicts the former Massachusetts governor standing in front of a fluttering U.S. flag and repeating the word “America” for 25 seconds, before concluding with, “Not Obama.”

“The ad we’ve cut represents the sort of detailed, policy-rich alternative to President Obama that Governor Romney has offered this whole campaign,” Romney political adviser Russ Schriefer said…

Team Romney says it will run its new ad in swing states and, in a surprise move that is in no way a last-minute campaign gimmick, in Democrat-leaning Minnesota, Michigan and Pennsylvania, where Romney-aligned groups have already been buying airtime.

“It’s all about momentum,” said Charlie Spies, treasurer of pro-Romney super PAC Restore Our Future. “Mitt Romney is a perpetual motion machine,” Spies continued. “Did I say machine? I meant human. Mitt Romney is definitely a human. He’s a perpetual-motion Homo sapien. Actually, can you edit that to just read, ‘sapien’? Thanks.”…

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Apart from GOTV efforts, what’s on the agenda for the start of the weekend?

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  1. 1.

    J. Michael Neal

    November 2, 2012 at 5:01 pm

    I’m up in Duluth, sitting at Old Chicago waiting for game time. This week, the Gophers win 5-0 and 4-2.

  2. 2.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:02 pm

    2nd Disaster Relief free*

    *Just pay Shipping, Processing, and Service Fee [20% gratuity added on claims over $500.00]

  3. 3.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    I’m guessing Team Romney is just spending all that cash they have in any way they think will get them votes, EC be damned.

    They are looking for a popular vote moral victory.

    Either that or they’re going to steal the election and this gives them cover.

    I report, you start Happy Hour.

  4. 4.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2012 at 5:06 pm

    Dick Morris abandons the Romney Landslide ship:

    With that caution in mind, a danger signal comes from the latest Rasmussen Poll reflecting a two point gain for Obama. Whereas before the storm, Rasmussen showed Romney two ahead, he now has the race tied at 48-48.
    That is troublesome.

    However, we can all take comfort (?) in the fact that our pet moron troll will undoubtedly stay true to Romney through the bitter end.

  5. 5.

    PreservedKillick

    November 2, 2012 at 5:10 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Wow, that Dick Morris piece is…surreal?

    I’m amazed by that. An alternate universe.

  6. 6.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:13 pm

    @dmsilev:

    However, we can all take comfort (?) in the fact that our pet moron troll will undoubtedly stay true to Romney through the bitter end.

    Why wouldn’t he, as he will supremely enjoy rubbing our collective noses in “President-Elect Romney” a mere “FOUR DAYS FROM NOW!”?

  7. 7.

    freelancer

    November 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    New Left Media was at the Ohio Rally where Meatloaf butchered America the Beautiful. They engage in a bit of nutpicking with rally-goers.

  8. 8.

    PeakVT

    November 2, 2012 at 5:14 pm

    @dmsilev: [Rasmussen] now has the race tied at 48-48.

    Nobody could have predicted that.

  9. 9.

    catclub

    November 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    47% Off

    …way off.

  10. 10.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm

    @PreservedKillick: The sheer density of counterfactuals is pretty amazing.

    I was worried at first that he was changing his prediction, since Dick Morris is always wrong, but he still thinks Romney is going to win. Whew!

  11. 11.

    gex

    November 2, 2012 at 5:16 pm

    @dmsilev: Sandy is going to provide Rasmussen the perfect cover for their last minute adjustments to reflect reality.

  12. 12.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    @PeakVT:

    This is good news for John McCain!

  13. 13.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    @PeakVT: You get the feeling that some of the right wing pundits were actually surprised by Rasmussen’s shift. Wonder if any of them are accusing him of backstabbing Romney.

  14. 14.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:18 pm

    @catclub:

    More like “47% Off” way over-inflated mark-up in the first place (SRP).

  15. 15.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:19 pm

    Have had a bear of a week (although it did include ToL lentil soup, BG) and am planning a large, LARGE Friday night before getting up at the crack of dawn to head to Milwaukee for canvassing.

  16. 16.

    Cassidy

    November 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    25 seconds? I can do about 10 seconds at best. How do you say it for 25?

  17. 17.

    Evolving Deep Southerner

    November 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    I’m in Chicago on Water Street near the lake. Have heard I must try a Chicago Dog before I leave. Any of you Chicago folk have suggestions?

  18. 18.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparklemotion.*

    *Stolen from another BJ’er.

  19. 19.

    Maude

    November 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Has Romney gone 360 degrees on FEMA yet?

  20. 20.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    I went and voted this afternoon. (We don’t have unrestricted early voting in VA, but there’s a new category that allows it if you’re going to be a party or candidate rep inside a polling place.) It was very nice, and I had a lovely conversation with a couple of people in line ahead of me. The poll workers were putting in a lot of effort to make sure everyone had the forms filled out correctly, major kudos to them.

    We don’t have partisan registration, but judging from the relative lack of old white people or angry-looking middle-aged white males, I suspect it was almost all Democrats.

  21. 21.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    “Mitt Romney is a perpetual motion machine,” Spies continued. “Did I say machine? I meant human. Mitt Romney is definitely a human. He’s a perpetual-motion Homo sapien. Actually, can you edit that to just read, ‘sapien’? Thanks.”

    This is real? The poor Onion. They don’t stand a chance.

    Edit: Okay, I see it’s supposed to be a spoof. I’ll blame my slowness on being sick. Second day home on the sofa. Ugh.

  22. 22.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    November 2, 2012 at 5:23 pm

    Still at work. May go to Old Chicago in Lakewood (CO) for dinner (mr. hedgehog’s and my favorite hangout. We’ll be willing them our livers). GOTV tomorrow. We’ve both voted (vote by mail).

  23. 23.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:24 pm

    @Evolving Deep Southerner: Wiener’s Circle, on Clark just south of Diversey.

  24. 24.

    The Other Bob

    November 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    I once was a campaigning machine. One year I took 30 days off to volunteer on local and state campaigns.

    This year, I have not done shit. I have been feeling guilty, so I am walking for my friend who is running for real election on Sunday.

    If anyone is in Oakland County Michigan, vote Andy Meisner for Oakland Co Treasurer.

  25. 25.

    Yutsano

    November 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    @dmsilev: Tribe uber alles. Ras will get labeled as a librul plant now and all polls are junk. Like two weeks ago. Yay Groundhog Day.

  26. 26.

    J. Michael Neal

    November 2, 2012 at 5:25 pm

    @Violet: It’s pretty clearly a spoof. I think.

  27. 27.

    cathyx

    November 2, 2012 at 5:26 pm

    I just voted to legalize marijuana in Oregon. I don’t understand why the arguments against the measure were from the police. I would think they would like it to be legalized so they don’t have to waste their time with petty crime.

  28. 28.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @Violet:

    From The Comics Curmudgeon

    “Of course actual humans don’t say ‘We humans.’ And neither will Dawn, once she presses her awkwardly-placed reset button.”

  29. 29.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @J. Michael Neal: Yeah, I edited to say that. I’m slow. I’m blaming it on being sick.

  30. 30.

    ? Martin

    November 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @Cassidy: You turn the R into a prolonged growl like a grizzley bear. Helps if you put your hands out like a pair of claws and snarl a bit. Basically, just do your Dick Cheney impersonation.

  31. 31.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @Maude: Oh, yeah, 10/31:

    “I believe that FEMA plays a key role in working with states and localities to prepare for and respond to natural disasters,” Romney said in a statement. “As president, I will ensure FEMA has the funding it needs to fulfill its mission, while directing maximum resources to the first responders who work tirelessly to help those in need, because states and localities are in the best position to get aid to the individuals and communities affected by natural disasters.”

    And that’s always been his position, don’cha know. The article also has a nice quote from a disaster-relief expert pointing out that Romney’s current “I’m just saying the states should do most of it” position is the same as Bush’s.

  32. 32.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @shortstop: Good luck up there.

    Get yourself a New Glarus cherry beer.

  33. 33.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:29 pm

    @cathyx: I think quite a few of them freaking love wasting their time with petty crime.

  34. 34.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @cathyx:

    I seem to remember in LA the DA’s and Police Associations (some) thought it was good to go after real crime.

  35. 35.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:30 pm

    @BGinCHI: It’s going to be easier than Ohio was last weekend.

  36. 36.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2012 at 5:31 pm

    The Onion is clearly fully up to date on the zeitgeist:

    As part of his continued effort to torment the 34-year-old statistician and blogger, feared New York Times bully Derek Kriesel reportedly slapped a stack of opinion polls from Nate Silver’s hands Friday, scattering the surveys across the floor of the organization’s newsroom. “Pick them up, you little fuckin’ dweeb,” said Kriesel, who eyewitnesses confirmed kicked the papers down the hallway before Silver could gather them up. “Hey, Silverdork, I got a poll for you. It says there’s a 90 percent chance that I’m going to beat the shit out of you, what do you think of that?” At press time, sources said Silver was hiding in a supply closet and analyzing the latest electoral data as a menacing voice from across the hall called out, “Oh, Silver! Where are you, Silver?

  37. 37.

    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)

    November 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    Interesting post by David Frum over at the Daily Beast entitled “A Pre-Election Challenge for ‘Real Conservatives'”… In particular, the reader comments are intriguing. The short version is that conservatives are trying to decide if Romney failed them (since he isn’t a “true conservative”) OR if it is time for a little self-reflection among the party faithful as to whether they can compete in the future for hearts and minds with such a strident platform.

    I think we’ll see still more conservatives stepping away from the party (a la Charles Johnson) and a circling of the wagons among the movement faithful.

    I know I’ve commented on this point several times in BJ over the last year, but I find it a very interesting spectacle. If nothing else, there should be some enjoyable wingnut-on-wingnut crime to take note of in the coming months….

  38. 38.

    22over7

    November 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @cathyx:

    You’d think, but no, there’s so much money being made by the law enforcement/prison complex, that it’s going to be a real slog to get them to give up that cash cow. Arms manufacturers sell to both sides, local cops get huge amounts of equipment and the power that goes along with it, local politicians get to be “tough on drugs”, what’s not to love?

  39. 39.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @dmsilev:

    we can all take comfort (?) in the fact that our pet moron troll will undoubtedly stay true to Romney through the bitter end

    Why do I suddenly have an image of Gollum riding thermals all the way down into the Cracks of Doom while gloating over his preciousssss!

  40. 40.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:32 pm

    @Evolving Deep Southerner: Portillo’s at 100 W Ontario.

    Closer than ss recommends, though the place she mentions is great.

  41. 41.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Wonder if any of them are accusing him of backstabbing Romney.

    Oh, man, I hope so! DougJ, we’ve got a trolling project for you!

  42. 42.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:33 pm

    @shortstop:

    You’re a good man, Charlie Brown.

  43. 43.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    @BGinCHI: Despite neither drinking beer nor eating hot dogs (ah, but once I did both, sometimes even at the same time), I try to spread the local culinary love.

  44. 44.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ: That’s giving him too much credit. He’s more like Orc #34154.

  45. 45.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:35 pm

    @shortstop: I meant get it for me.

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 5:36 pm

    @Maude:
    A perfectly lubricated weathervane never stops twirling, twirling, twirling to victory!

  47. 47.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 5:37 pm

    This talk of Old Chicago kept confusing me, so I had to google it. When I was in HS there was a place in the west (I think) Chicago suburbs called Old Chicago, it was an indoor amusement park under a clear dome surrounded by a shopping mall that was supposed to be old timey looking. I don’t remember any of the stores being in use, you just had to walk all the way around the square to get to the amusement park. We were scandalized when we found the cigarette machine cost 75 cents. We all agreed that if cigs cost $1 everyone would quit.

  48. 48.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:38 pm

    @trollhattan: I’m stealing this for all sorts of conversational contexts.

  49. 49.

    Mustang Bobby

    November 2, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    I am getting up at the crap of dawn tomorrow to go vote at the Coral Reef Library in Perrine, Florida. It’s the last day of early voting, and I intend to be one of the first in line. Wait times have been as long as three hours there. Fortunately it’s shaded, people pass around water, and I have a Stuart Pawson murder mystery novel that I will take along.

  50. 50.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:39 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Forward, not backward; upward, not forward.

  51. 51.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    Our county Hans Von Spakovsky-led electoral board has issued rules that polling place observers are only allowed to observe, and not allowed to talk to voters or assist them, if, say, they are being incorrectly steered to a provisional ballot or denied the right to vote. None of this has any basis in law. Our county Dems are suing over it.

  52. 52.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:40 pm

    @Mustang Bobby: I’m glad they finally fucking named a town in FL for Valerie Perrine.

    About the hell time.

  53. 53.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    @dmsilev:

    He’s more like Orc #34154.

    Yeah but the Orcs were generally a bit more realistic in assessing their prospects; they knew when they were getting stomped, what with being “the infantry in the last war” (as JRRT so charmingly put it in one of his letters). They weren’t all screaming UNLIMITED CORPORATE NAZGULLL!! right down to the last nanonsecond before the hot lava took them into its tender embrace.

  54. 54.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:41 pm

    @BGinCHI: I hope I didn’t sound like a pious-ass food nazi, just like the oppressive, nanny-stating First Lady loving her vegetables and dancing and whatnot. At the moment I happen to be eating a milk chocolate donkey.

  55. 55.

    Cmm

    November 2, 2012 at 5:42 pm

    I have to go to work overnight and I have been reading BJ for the last couple hours instead of sleeping, so getting a few more hours of sleep is my immediate agenda. And fervently hoping tonight is significantly less shitty than last night.

    Oh and I would happily support legalization, not that there is any chance of a ballot initiative here in GA anytime soon. I friggin hate arresting people for minor possession. Plus, at this point most of the violent drug related crime is pot dealers robbing and shooting each other. Legalization helps make that go away, or at least sends the dealers back to the harder to get products that are a bit easier to keep some kind of lid on.

  56. 56.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @muddy: I remember that place! They had the first coaster I’d been on that corkscrewed. We were wowed. It was a simpler time.

  57. 57.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @shortstop: You didn’t. Your sweetness is legendary even above Foster Ave.

    Five bucks you ate the head first.

  58. 58.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Hell, she’s got a whole *state* named after her.

  59. 59.

    elmo

    November 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    Tomorrow the loggers are coming to take away the giant oaks that fell all over my property in NoVa during Sandy. So I can start repairing the fences.

    Meanwhile, I keep hearing that hte President is going to be in VA tomorrow, but I can’t find out WHERE. I would love to go, but I can’t get any info. How do people find out where these rallies are supposed to take place? Help?

  60. 60.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    @LanceThruster: Thanks, my bud; just doing what we can. Wisconsin ain’t going down without us, but might as well make the margin as wide as possible so Scotty and Reince and Paul will cry harder.

  61. 61.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    @shortstop: I know the tradition is to start eating chocolate bunnies from the ears, is it then correct to eat a chocolate donkey starting from the ass?

  62. 62.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @BGinCHI: Right back hoof. Ex-boyfriend taught me. It was a more complicated time.

  63. 63.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    @LanceThruster: Win.

  64. 64.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 5:46 pm

    BTW, Jack Ohman will be decamping “The Oregonian” and coming to our local rag, from where he will skewer California poly-ticks. I canna wait.

    He’s replacing Rex Babin, who died far, far too young of cancer. Rex shredded the Governator better than pretty much anybody. Of course he had lots of material to work with.

    http://sacbee.mycapture.com/mycapture/folder.asp?event=1453156&CategoryID=58848

  65. 65.

    BGinCHI

    November 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    @shortstop: Women are so mysterious.

  66. 66.

    dmsilev

    November 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Five bucks you ate the head first.

    That’s the humane way; they don’t suffer as long.

  67. 67.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:47 pm

    @shortstop:

    Sweeeeet!

    [as Scott Tenorman cries after realizing he ate his parents in a bowl of chili, Radiohead arrive at the scene]
    Thom Yorke: Uhm, excuse me?
    Stan: Who are you?
    Jonny Greenwood: We’re that band Radiohead.
    Scott Tenorman: [raises his head] Jesus!
    Ed O’Brien: Jeez, what a li’l crybaby!
    Colin Greenwood: Are you gonna cry all day, crybaby?
    Thom Yorke: You know, everyone has problems; it doesn’t mean you have to be a little crybaby about it.
    Ed O’Brien: Come on, guys, let’s go. This kid is totally not cool.
    Thom Yorke: Yeah, that’s the most uncool kid I’ve ever met.
    Phil Selway: Little crybaby!
    [Radiohead leave the scene]
    Scott Tenorman: No, wait! Waaiittt! Oh, my God, Oh, my Gaawwwd!
    [buries his face on the table]
    Cartman: [walks over to Scott’s end of the table] Yes! Yesss! Oh, let me taste your tears, Scott!
    [starts licking Scott’s tears off his face]
    Cartman: Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!
    Kyle: Dude, I think it might be best for us to never piss Cartman off again.
    Stan: Good call.
    Cartman: Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! My-yummy!
    [licks the tears off the table and off Scott’s face]

  68. 68.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    @shortstop: One time when we were there a guy died from trying to move from one slot to another on that centrifugal force thing where you stand up and the floor drops out. It was pretty exciting when we saw it on the news that night, we had apparently missed the whole thing. Probably in the bathroom smoking pot.

  69. 69.

    Joel

    November 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    I think I’m going to whine about large public events happening in the tri-state area.

    DID YOU KNOW THAT THE CONNNECTICUT INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW IS BEING HELD IN HARTFORD THIS WEEKEND? THOSE THREE WHEELED EXPERIMENTAL VEHICLES COULD BE USED TO RESCUE PEOPLE STRANDED IN NEW JERSEY!

    etc.

  70. 70.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 5:48 pm

    @Cmm:

    Oh and I would happily support legalization, not that there is any chance of a ballot initiative here in GA anytime soon.

    If only there were a way to manufacture bullets made of out dense, highly compressed grass. Then it would become a 2nd Amendment issue.

  71. 71.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    @LanceThruster: That’s some good stuff right there.

    We once had parakeets named Billy and Montana, but no one got the joke and thought we’d chosen Montana in the way that people used to name children silly western-sounding things. So we changed their names to Sacco and Vanzetti.

  72. 72.

    Roger Moore

    November 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    @cathyx:

    I would think they would like it to be legalized so they don’t have to waste their time with petty crime.

    If they aren’t spending their time on petty crime, they might be forced to confront dangerous crime. And if there isn’t enough dangerous crime around, there might be layoffs because we don’t need so many police. Obviously unacceptable.

  73. 73.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    @shortstop:

    At the moment I happen to be eating a milk chocolate donkey.

    I saw a similar show in TJ.

  74. 74.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:49 pm

    @muddy:

    How do you eff that up? Seems like it should be doable, no?

  75. 75.

    monkeyfister

    November 2, 2012 at 5:50 pm

    I thought this was a great video ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZENtH3psXl4

  76. 76.

    elmo

    November 2, 2012 at 5:51 pm

    @shortstop:

    I like that.
    Our first goats were twin boys, very cute. I wanted to name them Castor and Pollux, naturellement, but partner ixnayed that. So we settled on Milton and Dante.

  77. 77.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 5:52 pm

    @shortstop:

    I call the horses in the stable down the way “Thunderbolt & Lightfoot.”

    Lot’s of great duo names…Starsky & Hutch, Batman and Robin, Romney & Snide…

  78. 78.

    Cassidy

    November 2, 2012 at 5:53 pm

    @? Martin: worst campaign ad ever.

  79. 79.

    Culture of Truth

    November 2, 2012 at 5:55 pm

    The hosts of Fox & Friends on Friday suggested that NBC should postpone a Hurricane Sandy telethon until after the election because making sure that the event did not benefit President Barack Obama was more important than helping storm victims.

    Fox & Friends guest host Eric Bolling floated the idea that NBC had rushed the concert “to make President Obama look presidential.”

    “It does look like they are trying squeeze things in,” co-host Steve Doocy agreed. “Where are the conservative performers? There aren’t any on the list I saw.”

  80. 80.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    @LanceThruster: We also considered Hither and Yon, Questo e Quello, and Yellow and Blue for the birds.

    I used to know two Jack Russell brothers named Pilot and Runway. Hilarious.

  81. 81.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 5:56 pm

    MJ supplies a nice chart with list of favorite RW Obama conspiracies. Bonus: a few I’d not heard of before!

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/10/chart-obama-conspiracy-theories

  82. 82.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    @elmo: Obama and Clinton are going to be in a place called Bristow, VA tomorrow:
    11/3BristowVA
    Grassroots Event with President Barack Obama & President Bill Clinton
    Featuring a special acoustic performance by Dave Matthews

    Saturday, November 3rd

    Doors open at 7:00 PM

    Jiffy Lube Live
    7800 Cellar Door Drive
    Bristow, VA 20136

    Link: https://my.barackobama.com/page/s/see-president-obama-and-president-clinton-in-bristow

  83. 83.

    El Cid

    November 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @Culture of Truth: Yeah, tell those fucking yammering “victims” of this storm to keep their greedy hands in their pockets and not be ruining our election because they need ‘food’ or ‘water’ or ‘medicine’ or ‘flat screen TV’s’ or whatever it is that Obama’s going to give them to buy their votes.

  84. 84.

    Smiling Mortician

    November 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @freelancer: Holy shit, man. Proof positive that the three years since 2009 have done NOTHING to improve the unfortunate mental condition that runs rampant in Teabagville.

  85. 85.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 5:59 pm

    @LanceThruster: I guess he thought so, but maybe he got to far into the center and gravity was stronger than centripetal acceleration? Of course at the time we said we wished we’d seen it (15) but really I’m glad we did not.

  86. 86.

    Evolving Deep Southerner

    November 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    @BGinCHI: And thank you as well. That’s within walking distance.

  87. 87.

    Roger Moore

    November 2, 2012 at 6:00 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    Lot’s of great duo names…Starsky & Hutch, Batman and Robin, Romney & Snide…

    Abbot and Costello, Pete and Repeat…

  88. 88.

    Raven

    November 2, 2012 at 6:04 pm

    @Roger Moore: Cuff and Link (Rocky’s turtles)!

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    @Violet:
    “Jiffy Lube Live”? I’ma not touching that, even with this here 3.5m pole.

    Remember when the wingers claimed the onliest way Obama could draw crowds was with free beer? I guess Dave Matthews and the Big Dog=beer. They should be pleased.

  90. 90.

    quannlace

    November 2, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    If I was blowing out my candles on my Birthday cake, on my wish list.

    1. Power back to everybody, right now.

    2. No more storms of any kind, for two weeks at least. Whether sprinkles or pennies from heaven.

    3. Romney sent back to whatever of his dozillion homes.

    4. The election being decided late Tuesday night. And no later.

    5. Can little kids finally have a normal Halloween next year?

    6. And can Donald Trump’s gerbil hair and a cyclonic event merge, and spin him out of the MSM for a decent interval?

  91. 91.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    My local news just reported that Alabama utility workers were turned away from helping repair storm ravaged areas in NJ because they are not union members.

  92. 92.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:08 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    José and Hose-B

  93. 93.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    @Raven:
    Rocket J. Squirrel Rocky, or da other guy?

  94. 94.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    @muddy:

    Yeah…like watching certain monster movie scenes through your fingers.

    xD

  95. 95.

    Arm The Homeless

    November 2, 2012 at 6:10 pm

    @hedgehog the occasional commenter: Hey, I know that place! Good beer selection, slightly better pizza.

    My favorite hole in the wall Thai restaurant is just north of 6th Ave. I wonder if that place is still there, in the same parking lot as Red Robin?

  96. 96.

    shortstop

    November 2, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    @Violet: That sounds truthy.

  97. 97.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:11 pm

    @quannlace:
    I grant you #4–it’ll be mid-evening left coast time. You’re on your own for the rest of that lot.

    –The tooth fairy’s assistant.

  98. 98.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @Violet: Next town past Manassas.

  99. 99.

    Ash Can

    November 2, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    OK, courtesy of an alert LGF commenter, apparently Dave Weigel was at a Romney rally this afternoon at which a Public Enemy song was played over the PA (“He Got Game,” I believe), and it was the uncensored version, i.e., complete with F-bombs.

    ETA to clarify: Weigel was tweeting about it.

  100. 100.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @shortstop:

    Let’s move onto the “Bonus Round” – triples!

    Dewey, Cheatem, & Howe.

  101. 101.

    SatanicPanic

    November 2, 2012 at 6:12 pm

    @Culture of Truth: A telethon full of conservative performers would be worse than a trip to the ER.

  102. 102.

    Raven

    November 2, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @trollhattan: The Metal Munching Moon Mice of Frostbite Falls!

  103. 103.

    harlana

    November 2, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @PreservedKillick: The entire republican party has become an alternate universe.

  104. 104.

    Elmo

    November 2, 2012 at 6:13 pm

    @Violet:
    Yaaaaaa, thank you!!! That’s not far from me at all.

  105. 105.

    Raven

    November 2, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    “Alabama power companies are denying a local TV station’s report that linemen who had traveled to New Jersey from Alabama (a right to work state) to help restore power to those hit hard by Superstorm Sandy were told they could not work there because they were non-union.

    The report by WAFF TV quotes a worker from Decatur Utilities saying he was told by crews in New Jersey they could not work there, after the utility receiving a call to assist in Seaside Heights, N.J.

    The Decatur employee told WAFF that crews were told to stand down, and that linemen from Trinity, Ala.-based Joe Wheeler are already headed back home. Moore said they are frustrated being told, “Thanks, but no thanks.”

    However, Decatur Utilities, based in Decatur, Ala., denied the report. “

  106. 106.

    Mnemosyne

    November 2, 2012 at 6:14 pm

    @muddy:

    I had a friend in high school whose father had lost a buttload of money investing in Old Chicago. It was probably one of the factors that led to him drinking himself to death.

    I have vague memories of going there (carnival rides in the winter — woo-hoo!) but there was no pot smoking for me since I was about 8 years old.

    ETA: As far as I can tell, the Mall of America in Minneapolis is the same concept as Old Chicago, but with actual stores.

  107. 107.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    @shortstop: Yeah, the NJ union folks are denying it. I live in a red state. Everything on our local news is through that lens.

  108. 108.

    jibeaux

    November 2, 2012 at 6:17 pm

    @Ash Can: that amuses me on at least three levels.

  109. 109.

    Anoniminous

    November 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @elmo:

    In case nobody else has already answered:

    Here.

    ETA: And I see Violet was on it.

  110. 110.

    Mnemosyne

    November 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    “It does look like they are trying squeeze things in,” co-host Steve Doocy agreed. “Where are the conservative performers? There aren’t any on the list I saw.”

    I know I would pay good money to see a duet of “America the Beautiful” by Meat Loaf and Kelsey Grammer, with a Ted Nugent guitar solo. Get on it, Fox News!

  111. 111.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @Cassidy:

    Rmoney’s latest campaign appeal…

    Homer: [melancholy] My campaign is a disaster, Moe. [angry] I hate the public so much! [melancholy] If only they’d elect me. [angry] I’d make ’em pay! [melancholy] Aw, Moe, how do I make ’em like me?
    Moe: Eh, gee, you’re kind of all over the place, Homer, you need to focus
    here. You gotta…think hard, and come up with a slogan that appeals to all the lazy slobs out there.
    Homer: [moans] Can’t someone else do it?
    Moe: “Can’t someone else do it?”, that’s perfect!

    —

    And thus, the push to the private sector was born.

  112. 112.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    November 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @Culture of Truth:

    “Where are the conservative performers?”

    They’re on the ballot.

  113. 113.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @Elmo: You’re welcome. Click on the link. They had a link to get tickets for it.

    Edit: I think the page I linked is the one after the “Get a ticket” link. I think they just want you to sign up.

  114. 114.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 6:19 pm

    @Raven:

    The report by WAFF TV quotes a worker from Decatur Utilities saying he was told by crews in New Jersey they could not work there, after the utility receiving a call to assist in Seaside Heights, N.J.

    Given the difference in regional accents (how do you say the word “wire”? Ohh, that sounds fun, let’s all play “Who’s on First?” with electricity!), the utility workers in NJ may not have been able to understand a word the man was saying and concluded they were being pranked by teenagers.

  115. 115.

    Dream On

    November 2, 2012 at 6:20 pm

    Practical question:

    If the hurricane coverage has pre-empted any ads Romney or Obama have bought, do those campaigns get a refund from the networks? And are they allowed to shift that money and ads into other states? Or is it too late in the game?

  116. 116.

    gbear

    November 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    in Democrat-leaning Minnesota

    Fuck Steven Stromberg. Just fuck him.

  117. 117.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I know I would pay good money to see a duet of “America the Beautiful” by Meat Loaf and Kelsey Grammer, with a Ted Nugent guitar solo.

    You left out the catastrophic stage collapse at the end.

  118. 118.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:21 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    C-list at best (and even that’s too kind)

  119. 119.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    @Ash Can:

    @daveweigel
    __
    This is not the censored version. A crowd of Republicans just heard the line “fuck the game if it ain’t sayin’ nothin'”

  120. 120.

    Ash Can

    November 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    @jibeaux: It’s exactly the sort of thing that makes all of us do a double-take on the Stromberg piece that AL excerpted above and say, “This guy is kidding, right?”

  121. 121.

    Jay C

    November 2, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    @dmsilev: [Rasmussen] now has the race tied at 48-48.

    SO if Ras has it tied, one can assume that President Obama’s actual lead is probably 5-6 points??

    And a two-point Obama lead is most likely an FDR/Alf Landon blowout?

  122. 122.

    ranchandsyrup

    November 2, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    You ever wonder what kind of dude devotes his life to keeping the Hurricane Sandy wikipedia page free from the dreaded phrase “climate change”? Here ya go: http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2012-11/wikipedia-sandy

  123. 123.

    Mnemosyne

    November 2, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    @Violet:

    Interesting line in that story:

    “that implied a requirement of our employees to agree to union affiliation while working in the New York and New Jersey areas.” (emphasis mine)

    Makes me wonder if there was some kind of requirement that the outside crews get the same pay as the union crews while working in New York and New Jersey, which caused Hardin to bug out and return home.

  124. 124.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 6:23 pm

    @LanceThruster: I cover my eyes entirely, and my son was supposed to be the one to tell me when to look. Of course he would frequently tell me right at the wrong part.

  125. 125.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 6:25 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Don’t forget Kid Rock, they were breathlessly announcing him the other day.

  126. 126.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 6:26 pm

    @Mnemosyne: The Hardin guy won’t return phone calls now. Not surprising since the story probably isn’t true.

  127. 127.

    hedgehog the occasional commenter

    November 2, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    @Arm The Homeless:

    I think so–I love Thai food, the spousal unit not so much. We’ve been enjoying the OC mini-tours–good way to get introduced to new and different beers.

  128. 128.

    Bex

    November 2, 2012 at 6:27 pm

    @muddy: I remember the Old Chicago you’re talking about. It’s long-gone now, replaced by miles of residential development along US 55. It was out in the middle of nowhere when it was built. I think it was used in a movie once but can’t remember the name. Anybody remember the replica of the Leaning Tower of Pisa on Touhy at the northwest edge of the city? I lived near there and climbed to the top once long after it was abandoned.

  129. 129.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 6:28 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That’s sad about your friend’s dad. I think the concept of the amusement park was fine, so nice for kids in the winter. I didn’t understand the mall part, especially as it was not a regular mall, but was supposed to be olden-times.

  130. 130.

    hep kitty

    November 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    We need to develop a new vocabulary to enable us to express levels of craven mendacity and hypocrisy unsurpassed since the times of Hitler and Stalin.

    “Lying” just doesn’t cut it anymore.

    Granted, both Hitler and Stalin, were they alive today, would both be smarter than Romney, which makes it even more frightening.

    And that goes for all his surrogates, like Morris. What a shameless toe-sucking little bastard. A complete lack of self-awareness is the hallmark of a republican.

    And, regardless, Morris will never stop being wrong and will never go away.

  131. 131.

    Mark S.

    November 2, 2012 at 6:29 pm

    In five more days, I won’t have to read or hear anything more about Mitt Romney.

  132. 132.

    elftx

    November 2, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    @Evolving Deep Southerner:

    Billy Goats Tavern!!

    http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&sugexp=les;&cp=13&gs_id=8j&xhr=t&biw=1067&bih=613&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=37189454&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=billy+goats+tavern&fb=1&gl=us&hq=billy+goats+tavern&cid=0,0,9623985935237188403&sa=X&ei=rEmUUJeaJ-m6yAGwgIGwDg&sqi=2&ved=0CCIQrwswAA

    or any Portillos for an Italian Beef…sigh I am now officially homesick!!

  133. 133.

    Joel

    November 2, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    @Violet: @Raven: Did the prospective volunteers carve backwards B’s in their heads?

  134. 134.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:32 pm

    @Jay C:
    Ras tie = White House kegger starts early.

  135. 135.

    Joel

    November 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    @ranchandsyrup: That particular polar bear does not fear extinction.

  136. 136.

    hep kitty

    November 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    @Culture of Truth: This is all they can do now is whine. The President is out being and looking Presidential. They know they are being fucked six ways to Sunday. It’s all they got. Oh, the persecution. Endless tears.

  137. 137.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:34 pm

    @muddy:
    Willard’s campaign has been distressingly Osmond-free. Could they be Huntsman fans?

  138. 138.

    piratedan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:35 pm

    @El Cid: seems like the perfect opportunity for those stalwart conservative residents of Staten Island to stand up and show America that they can, in fact, build it themselves…..

  139. 139.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:38 pm

    @trollhattan:

    They only need to be anti-Obambi, it seems.

  140. 140.

    ranchandsyrup

    November 2, 2012 at 6:39 pm

    @Joel: Ha! How could people eat in the restaurant with that much backhair in public view? I guess that’s not the kind of place that has a jacket for people who show up non-compliant with the dress code.

  141. 141.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 6:40 pm

    @trollhattan: Maybe they don’t want people to remark upon the fact that one of the sons looks exactly like an Osmond. Oh Ann…

  142. 142.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 6:41 pm

    @Bex: No, I wasn’t aware of it. The time I spent in the area was south. Did you drop things off the top like the traditional experiment?

  143. 143.

    Brachiator

    November 2, 2012 at 6:42 pm

    When the Team Romney and the GOP can’t dazzle you with non-stop lying, they will resort to suppression of information. From the tax sites today:

    House Ways and Means Committee ranking member Sander Levin, D-Mich., has sent a letter to Congressional Research Service (CRS) Director Mary B. Mazanec requesting information about what led the CRS to withdraw a September report, “Taxes and the Economy: An Economic Analysis of the Top Tax Rates Since 1945,” by Thomas Hungerford, that found no correlation between tax cuts and economic growth. The analysis compared tax policy with gross domestic product (GDP) patterns over the last 65 years.
    __
    The report was first released in September but was removed from public circulation shortly thereafter, apparently after pressure was applied by Senate Republican leaders. In the letter dated November 1, Levin wrote that he is “deeply concerned” about the CRS’s decision to remove the report from its website. He said the impartial research and advice provided by CRS experts “informs and strengthens” the work of Congress, but its critical role hinges on the impartiality of CRS analysts and their “freedom” from political pressure.

    From the report summary:

    Throughout the late-1940s and 1950s, the top marginal tax rate was typically above 90%; today it is 35%. Additionally, the top capital gains tax rate was 25% in the 1950s and 1960s, 35% in the 1970s; today it is 15%. The real GDP growth rate averaged 4.2% and real per capita GDP increased annually by 2.4% in the 1950s. In the 2000s, the average real GDP growth rate was 1.7% and real per capita GDP increased annually by less than 1%.
    __
    There is not conclusive evidence, however, to substantiate a clear relationship between the 65-year steady reduction in the top tax rates and economic growth. Analysis of such data suggests the reduction in the top tax rates have had little association with saving, investment, or productivity growth.
    __
    However, the top tax rate reductions appear to be associated with the increasing concentration of income at the top of the income distribution. The share of income accruing to the top 0.1% of U.S. families increased from 4.2% in 1945 to 12.3% by 2007 before falling to 9.2% due to the 2007-2009 recession. The evidence does not suggest necessarily a relationship between tax policy with regard to the top tax rates and the size of the economic pie, but there may be a relationship to how the economic pie is sliced.

    Shorter, the war on the middle class is an illusion, except for that war on the middle class.

  144. 144.

    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 6:44 pm

    @trollhattan:

    I think Mitt was endorsed by Big Graham Osmond.

  145. 145.

    ericblair

    November 2, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @Raven:

    The Decatur employee told WAFF that crews were told to stand down, and that linemen from Trinity, Ala.-based Joe Wheeler are already headed back home. Moore said they are frustrated being told, “Thanks, but no thanks.”

    I heard that they were being turned back because they refused to get gay-married to each other before they went through the Holland tunnel. Plus, they were told that they couldn’t rescue any white people out of flooded attics until after they had gotten fresh T-bones and replacement 60-inch LCDTVs for all the blah people.

  146. 146.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @LanceThruster:
    Yeesh, the woo is strong in this one.

    Also, too, Calif. Appeals Court denies FPPC petition for force out of state campaign funders to reveal their donors. Next stop, Supreme Court.

    California’s 3rd District Court of Appeal today denied the state’s emergency request to force an Arizona nonprofit to submit information related to its recent $11 million political contribution.
    __
    The decision makes it even less likely that Americans for Responsible Leadership will disclose its donors before Tuesday’s election. Ann Ravel, who heads the state Fair Political Practices Commission, said her agency will now ask the state Supreme Court to force ARL to comply. FPPC has requested emails, texts and financial transactions data related to the $11 million check the group gave a business committee last month. Funds have gone toward fighting Gov. Jerry Brown’s tax initiative, Proposition 30, and to support a measure restricting union dues collection, Proposition 32.

    http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolalertlatest/2012/11/appeals-court-denies-california-attempt-at-arizona-donor-audit.html#storylink=cpy

  147. 147.

    Fluke bucket

    November 2, 2012 at 6:45 pm

    @freelancer: thank you for that. The fact that it has the Meatloaf performance at the end was the cherry on top

  148. 148.

    Brachiator

    November 2, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Forgot to add: everyone should take a break from the electoral madness. I hear from reviewers and their kids that Wreck-it Ralph is big animated fun. Flight, with Denzel Washington is supposedly a moving, superior drama. The Master and Cloud Atlas are mixed bags, but have impressed and moved some viewers.

    And then there’s college football….

  149. 149.

    Joel

    November 2, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    @Brachiator: My wife refuses to watch Flight. She gets pissed when they show the TV trailers with the plane flying upside down.

    She is afraid of flying (as you might have guessed).

  150. 150.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 6:50 pm

    @Cmm: Stay safe out there! I’m always glad to hear a cop espouse your views. I’ve known quite a few others. Hard to say in public, for obvious reasons, but I feel like it’s not that uncommon.

    In fact, there are people in power all over this country that are pro-legalization but don’t feel safe in saying so. I think that tide is turning though, and quickly.

  151. 151.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    @Brachiator:

    He said the impartial research and advice provided by CRS experts “informs and strengthens” the work of Congress

    That’s crazy talk.

    ,but its critical role hinges on the impartiality of CRS analysts and their “freedom” from political pressure.

    Oh hai, I found the problem. [snap, crunch, mangle]. There, it’s all good now.

  152. 152.

    Mike G

    November 2, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    Rmoney’s latest —

    You know that if the President is re-elected, he will still be unable to work with the people in Congress,” Romney said. “The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy.”

    So Rmoney is basically running a protection racket now: Vote for me, or my cronies will kneecap the economy.

  153. 153.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:51 pm

    @Joel:

    She is afraid of flying (as you might have guessed).

    Not me…I’m afraid of crashing.

    It’s not the fall that’ll kill ya’…it’s the stopping.

  154. 154.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:52 pm

    @Joel:
    But…hardly anybody gets kil’t!

    I’d have more long-lasting problems with the pilot’s flying on booze and coke. (Oh lord, will that trip the FYWP filters?)

  155. 155.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 6:53 pm

    @redshirt:

    x2

  156. 156.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 6:54 pm

    @LanceThruster:
    Really, it’s just a poorly orchestrated landing.

  157. 157.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    November 2, 2012 at 6:56 pm

    @Mike G:

    The debt ceiling will come up again, and shutdown and default will be threatened, chilling the economy

    Note that his wording implies the economy is NOT chilled right now. [STACK CALL ADDRESS ERROR: SUBROUTINE_SPIN_BAD_ECONOMY not found]

  158. 158.

    Roger Moore

    November 2, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    Let’s move onto the “Bonus Round” – triples!

    Groucho, Harpo, and Chico. Moe, Larry, and Curly. Manny, Moe, and Jack. Athos, Porthos, and Aramis. Crosby, Stills, and Nash. The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly.

  159. 159.

    mai naem

    November 2, 2012 at 6:58 pm

    @trollhattan: I heard Marie and Donny Osmond being interviewed by Rosie ODonnell on her radio show on XM. It sounded like they’d been friends for a long time – I think because both have been on Broadway. Anyway, I got the feeling that neither of them, especially Marie, were wingnuts and even somewhat liberal. I don’t even think Mitt is particularly wingnut conservative. I think Money is his god and everything else he’s pragmatic on, but he’ll say anything that he thinks will get him elected.

  160. 160.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    @ThatLeftTurnInABQ:
    “Nice little recovery you got dere. Be a shame if somthin’ happened to it.” [drops hat brim slightly]

  161. 161.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 7:00 pm

    @LanceThruster: I grew up overseas and had almost a million miles in my BOAC booklet, took my first flight at 2 months old, when they used to hang a cradle from the ceiling on the 12 hour prop plane cross Atlantic flights. I *loved* to fly. It was always hard for me to decide where to sit, because looking out is favorite, but on the other hand, sitting right next to the engines is an exciting pantsfeeling on take-off.

    I loathe it now, just because of how unpleasant they make it, with the security and the shrunken seats and the lack of actual meal. I haz a sad.

  162. 162.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Wynken, Blynken, & Nod…Huey, Louie, & Dewey…Red, Ruff, & Soar…Ellis Dee (had to throw that in).

  163. 163.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 7:06 pm

    @muddy:

    I marvel at general aviation myself. Was shocked on my first commercial flight to see the wings BEND (made sense when I actually thought about it)! Love the sound of the control surfaces moving into position and locking. Even enjoyed dead air drops as kind of an E-ticket thrill.

    But you are right…TSA and DHS have destroyed the magic entirely.

  164. 164.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 7:08 pm

    @mai naem: Alan Osmond, the eldest Osmond, is a crazy wingnut. Check out this site he runs: http://thefamily.com/.

  165. 165.

    FlipYrWhig

    November 2, 2012 at 7:09 pm

    @Brachiator: Someone at LGM said that he or she was half-expecting _Flight_ to incur a blast of wingnut wrath as political propaganda, insofar as it appears to be about a black leader who manages a disaster rather well but gets criticized by ungrateful jerks for not doing it exactly perfectly.

  166. 166.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 7:11 pm

    @FlipYrWhig:

    Total fiction, eh?

  167. 167.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 7:12 pm

    @muddy: Yeah, flying is a pain now. Low budget bus with wings.

  168. 168.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 7:14 pm

    @The Other Bob: I once was a campaigning machine. One year I took 30 days off to volunteer on local and state campaigns.

    How do you DO that? After a couple of hours of talking to people I am drained. Drained. I get up the gumption every couple of days at best. Ugh.

  169. 169.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 7:15 pm

    @LanceThruster: Although I can live without the “excitement” of flying in DC-3s in the Middle East, where you might look out to see the flaps just flapping. Or when a window broke in the cockpit and they fixed it with electrical tape. Or when they could not hold pressure, so they flew along with a constant distance to the ground, despite the fact that they were going over mountains, up and down and. Oh, I lie, I do miss those days. Once the plane hit an air pocket and dropped about 1000 feet, I saw a drink hanging in midair for a second – ice at the top, then blobs of liquid and the glass below, until smash, and most people hurled. Proudly I say that I did not, and was just marveling over the anti-gravity I witnessed.

    And they gave stainless steel cutlery with the meals.

  170. 170.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    November 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    My boss has now walked off the ledge and said to me this evening “everything will turn out alright, Obama is going to win”. It is funny that he has only held this position since I told him about Nate.

  171. 171.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 7:20 pm

    @muddy:
    Since you flew BOAC did you ever fly Comets? (Hopefully after they dealt with the whole wings-ripping-off thing.) Neat looking planes.

    Always wanted to fly in a Connie, but they were mostly retired before I got to fly as a kid. Prettiest big plane ever.

  172. 172.

    slag

    November 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    @monkeyfister: Totally agree.

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    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 7:22 pm

    @West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.): OR if it is time for a little self-reflection among the party faithful as to whether they can compete in the future for hearts and minds with such a strident platform.

    I, for one, am not holding my breath.

    You are correct that there is a slow attrition occurring. But it’s either people who give up on the social programme for their own reasons (deciding they don’t believe in Angry Sky Daddy Is Watching You Masturbate, or who wake up one day struck by the radical notion that women are people, damn, why did I never see that?) or people who never bought into the social programme who, for whatever reason, are jarred out of the FOX bubble and see the President for who he is and realize that he and the Democratic Party as a whole are really not that radical on fiscal or domestic policy.

    I think there are also some people who are foreign policy firsters who have kind of gotten the picture as to Obama’s competence. But I put that out there with caveats because I’ve never met a foreign policy firster who wasn’t a little, um, out there.

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    Davis X. Machina

    November 2, 2012 at 7:26 pm

    @Violet:

    @muddy: Yeah, flying is a pain now. Low budget bus with wings.

    Been that way for a while. I saw Peoples Express taking black plastic trash-bags (double-thickness only, please) as checked baggage at the old Newark Terminal C in the early ’80’s. It was like some third-world country where the government had just fallen….

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    Yutsano

    November 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    @LanceThruster: I was flying from Seattle to Sacramento once on the same day as the big air crash in New York right after 9/11. That was a helluva white-knuckle plane ride, especially since it was showing on all the airport televisions. The cops having M-16s in the Sacto airport didn’t help.

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    Nethead Jay

    November 2, 2012 at 7:27 pm

    Climatesilence.org takes on Romney with Sandy: Damn, this is good…

  177. 177.

    Chris

    November 2, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    If I ever get a trio, it’ll have to be Yakko, Wakko and Dot.

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    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 7:28 pm

    @Roger Moore: Less police, higher wages. Same deal the longshoremen took, except without the outsourcing bullshit. Not seeing an issue, here.

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    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    What on earth makes any of you think Romney would deign to sell disaster relief to “you people”?

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    Chris

    November 2, 2012 at 7:29 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    If I ever get a trio, it’ll have to be Yakko, Wakko and Dot.

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    Litlebritdifrnt

    November 2, 2012 at 7:30 pm

    There is a radio ad running here in eastern NC whereby Walter Jones (R. dickhead) ends his doom and gloom speech with “vote on November 6, (scary music) WHILE YOU STILL CAN” perhaps someone would like to tell me where I missed the bit that Democrats do NOT want people to vote? Isn’t it the fucking republicans trying to stop people voting? (Thank the FSM for Bev Purdue who vetoed the voter ID law here).

  182. 182.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 7:33 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: It’s gotten progressively worse, though. Tiny seats, no food, no pillows, no blankets, no movie/tv unless you pay. And screw you if there’s a delay and you didn’t buy food you didn’t know you’d need in the terminal before you got on the plane. You have to pay the exorbitant in-flight prices for a box of crap.

    I doubt the airlines would allow you to check plastic bags these days. Too much risk they’d get caught in the luggage sorting machines and mess up everything.

  183. 183.

    The Other Chuck

    November 2, 2012 at 7:36 pm

    @Violet:

    @mai naem: Alan Osmond, the eldest Osmond, is a crazy wingnut. Check out this site he runs: http://thefamily.com/.

    Huh, did he pick up that domain after Charles Manson forgot to pay for the renewal?

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    slag

    November 2, 2012 at 7:37 pm

    @Nethead Jay: Yep. That’s the ad @monkeyfister linked to above. Surprisingly effective.

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    Ted

    November 2, 2012 at 7:38 pm

    That cartoon is TOO true. Anyone else heard about the wingnut “hail obama” meme?

  186. 186.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 7:41 pm

    @trollhattan: No, I don’t think so. But then I was flying at 2 mos. so who knows? The first ones where I was aware of the type were DC-3 and DC-6.

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    Roger Moore

    November 2, 2012 at 7:43 pm

    @Chris:
    Earth, Wind, and Fire
    Nina, Pinta, and Santa Maria
    Urd, Skuld, and Verthandi
    Clotho, Lachesis, and Atropos
    Aragorn, Legolas, and Gimli
    Daddy Bear, Mommy Bear, and Baby Bear

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    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    Is anyone else having trouble getting to Wonkette? I tried clicking on the link someone posted above and it keeps timing out. Same with GOS.

  189. 189.

    Villago Delenda Est

    November 2, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    @dmsilev:

    Rasmussen is once again getting their poll in line with reality so they can claim accuracy, when for fucking months they’ve been hanging out with the morons from Gallup in outlier territory.

    So fucking obvious.

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    mamayaga

    November 2, 2012 at 7:46 pm

    @Yutsano: I had a really serious scare on a flight into DC on October 10, 2001 (the automatic pressurizing equipment failed, the pilot didn’t know he’d left the intercom on and announced in a Darth Vader voice through his oxygen mask, “We’re going down.” We then heard him request an emergency landing in OH). That and the TSA nazis ruined flying for me. I had to do it several times a month for the next 10 years, however, and haven’t taken a flight since I retired.

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    Fluke bucket

    November 2, 2012 at 7:48 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: GOTV is what it is about for both sides. Always has been. Always will be. Whatever it takes to get them there.

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    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 7:49 pm

    I find it really interesting that the Weather Channel is discussing the superiority of the European model for Sandy and the upcoming nor’easter. The American model is not given as much credibility. Wonder how all those wingnuts feel about the superiority of the Europeans?

  193. 193.

    Mnemosyne

    November 2, 2012 at 7:52 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Everyone should go see Wreck-It Ralph, and I’m not saying that just because the mouse signs my paycheck. If you don’t believe me, believe The Onion’s AV Club.

    Special message to ruemara: if I knew the secret to selling a screenplay to the Giant Evil Corporation, me and my MFA in screenwriting wouldn’t be pulling an hourly wage in a secretarial job. Sorry. :-(

  194. 194.

    PeakVT

    November 2, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @Violet: They feel it’s the Democrats fault because TWC didn’t get a tax cut.

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    Kyle

    November 2, 2012 at 7:53 pm

    @LanceThruster:

    Speed never killed anyone. It’s sudden deceleration that’s the problem.

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    Uncle Cosmo

    November 2, 2012 at 7:54 pm

    @Violet: Same problem here with GOS. Victim of its own success, or of Thuglican mayhem? Fillum at 11.

  197. 197.

    Mike in NC

    November 2, 2012 at 7:55 pm

    @Mike G: Well, Bain was always pretty much a protection racket, from what I’ve read.

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    Mike G

    November 2, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    @Violet:

    Wonder how all those wingnuts feel about the superiority of the Europeans?

    The same way the Murka Uber Alles exceptionalism hive mind deals with many other aspect of life where the US is by objective measurement not number one, like health care, secondary education, infant mortality, etc.

    Denounce science and data as communist, raise the foam finger in the air and chant USA! USA! while turning Rush up louder. It’s basically the grown-up version of sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling lalalalalalalalalala to make reality go away.

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    pseudonymous in nc

    November 2, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    @Mustang Bobby:

    I am getting up at the crap of dawn tomorrow to go vote at the Coral Reef Library in Perrine, Florida. It’s the last day of early voting, and I intend to be one of the first in line. Wait times have been as long as three hours there

    Five hours elsewhere, and Prick Scott isn’t going to change the hours at all.

    Apparently, the constitutional amendment questions put forward by the legislature and written in gibberish [pdf] are what’s slowing things down.

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    Davis X. Machina

    November 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @Violet: which model has the hot hand for NE US winter weather varies from year to year — UK MET some years, one of NOAA’s suite others.

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    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 7:59 pm

    @LanceThruster: I see your Radio head and I raise you one Lyle Wins Oasis.

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    mai naem

    November 2, 2012 at 8:00 pm

    @Violet: I think Donny and Marie were the only Osmonds who were successful later on and they’ve had their shows in Vegas and on Broadway, both areas which are full of the gheys and the liberal commie pinkos. I figure Donny and Marie have got to at least become more tolerant after being exposed to that stuff.

  203. 203.

    daverave

    November 2, 2012 at 8:01 pm

    Speaking of flying, I’m hanging at home waiting for the spousal unit to arrive back in Sacto on United after an unscheduled five extra days in Noo Yawk City due to some storm or something. That will teach her to go to HS reunions. Fortunately she spent her time in Washington HEIGHTS, a good place to be when the world is flooding.

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    Nethead Jay

    November 2, 2012 at 8:02 pm

    @slag: Sorry, just scanned the thread quickly and didn’t see it.

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    MattR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:03 pm

    @Violet: I have recently discovered that international flights are much more tolerable once you get on the plane though the seats are still a bit too narrow in economy. Unfortunately you still have to deal with all the TSA crap. Hoping security at the Amsterdam airport is more reasonable. (Customs in Amsterdam was a complete joke. It will be more difficult to get back in the US as an American)

    +1 spacecake

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    MikeJ

    November 2, 2012 at 8:04 pm

    @Yutsano:

    I was flying from Seattle to Sacramento once on the same day as the big air crash in New York right after 9/11.

    I was Acela-ing from DC to NY that morning.

  207. 207.

    Baud

    November 2, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    @Violet:

    I tried clicking on the link someone posted above and it keeps timing out.

    An homage to Balloon Juice?

  208. 208.

    Lojasmo

    November 2, 2012 at 8:06 pm

    @elmo:

    Prince william county. Exact location TBA. I suggest the google.

  209. 209.

    PeakVT

    November 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I bet ConEd is in on the plot.

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    amk

    November 2, 2012 at 8:07 pm

    @Violet: The horse’s mouth.

    the mittbot’s base is hair-raising. literally.

  211. 211.

    MattR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:08 pm

    @MikeJ: That was the morning after one of my best friend’s weddings and a ton of his wife’s family were flying back to England out of JFK (and the plane came down near where his grandfather lived). A nice stress free, relaxing start to their honeymoon.

  212. 212.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:09 pm

    @Ted: In which state?

  213. 213.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    @Lojasmo: It’s that amphitheatre they built about 10 years ago just past Manassas. Was always a traffic nightmare when I went to shows there.

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    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:14 pm

    @different-church-lady:

    Pennsylvania, New York, Organ, Guam. You know, all the swing states.

  215. 215.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 8:15 pm

    I’ve been in two plane crashes, IF you consider planes sliding off the runways during takeoff to be plane crashes. On the second one (Qantas no less!), we had to use the plastic slides. I found them fun! Am I weird? On the first one, after we had all gotten off a plane, this Catholic priest came up to me, shaking, and asked if I had a light for his cigarette. I did! So I lit the Priest’s cigarette, and then since a Priest was smoking in the airport I figured I could too, so I did, wondering: Why is that Priest all pale and shaky? Shouldn’t he be the least scared of us all?

    Also too – on my return back from Australia, cuz I was flush with cash and absolutely dreaded the thought of 36 hours in coach in the middle sea – I upgraded myself to Business Class. OMG! On the other side of the curtain! Let met tell you, folks, it’s different over there: I had real silverware, including a steak knife. I was in shock – shit, I should hijack this plane just as a joke now! I joked! A joke, really.

    I had a bed and slippers and awesome headphones and my own tv and a little divider I could open or close. My FSM, it was like some other universe. Also – check this: At any time you could get up and go to this diner like area they had at the front of the section (behind yet another curtain – 1st class. What the hell is going on up there, I wondered) and get a sandwich or salad or cookie or candy bar or soda or beer or wine or bread…. It was all stars.

    For the record – I’ve made 2 non-stop flights to China in coach. Brutal.

  216. 216.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    November 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Violet: Europeans don’t rely on JEEEZUUSSS for weather they do science, not that the National Weather Service is run by evangelicals but if RobbedMe wins and the House has it’s way, then yeah better break out the prayer rugs.

  217. 217.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: I think the Euro was updated this past year, as was the GFS model. The Euro has been very accurate for the last two Atlantic hurricane seasons at least. Not sure about the accuracy of northeast weather out of hurricane season.

  218. 218.

    MattR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Violet: @Raven:MSN is reporting that its garbage

    But workers for Joe Wheeler, based in Trinity, Ala., are unionized and are going home after being deployed to Denton, Md., according company spokeswoman Mandi Philips.
    __
    “I don’t know how we got thrown into the mix,” she said, adding that the crews are coming home because their work is done.

  219. 219.

    The Other Bob

    November 2, 2012 at 8:16 pm

    @Another Halocene Human:

    How do you DO that?

    At that time was working for a state legislature, so that helped.

    Still, like I said, I USED to be a campaign machine. I got burnt out. Today I only help my friends. Its pretty easy to door knock for people you respect.

  220. 220.

    jibeaux

    November 2, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Bobby Jindal is having a butthurt meltdown on Twitter. Fun, fun.

  221. 221.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    @Ted:

    I get filtered when I try to link to it

    We all know how painful that can be.

  222. 222.

    Cmm

    November 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    @Chris:
    Tinker, Evers and Chance

  223. 223.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 8:18 pm

    @Ted: You’ve been reduced to Ted?

  224. 224.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    @LanceThruster, @BGinCHI: And now for something truly sad:

    I was in Dresden for a day in the summer of 1990, during the strange interregnum between the vote for reunification & the actual act, & I didn’t have time to seek out the slaughterhouse district & find Schlachthof-Fünf. No biggie, there were more than enough still-looking-bombed-out thingies to wander around, including the ruins of the Frauenkirche.

    I was back for a day 20 years later, wandered around the rebuilt church (bei mir they should have left it like the Kaiser-Wilhelm-Gedachtniskirche in Berlin, but hey, it’s their country & their euros), dropped in on the Hotel Gewandthaus to see how much pricier my single room had become (try 15x), & then asked around about the slaughterhouses. I hoped there might even be something of a Vonnegut walk.

    No one in any of the places I asked (including the main tourist office) even recognized his name. :(

  225. 225.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @MattR: I do not even want to talk about the miserable international flight I was on back from London earlier this week. Horrible experience. Jam packed flight because everyone changed their reservations when they couldn’t get to the NYC area. Bumpy too because we flew over the storm.

    The improvement in space and service I usually experience on international vs domestic flights seems to be vanishing.

  226. 226.

    Mark S.

    November 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    If non-white people are not allowed to vote, Romney wins in a LANDSLIDE!

  227. 227.

    Arm The Homeless

    November 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @pseudonymous in nc: There are plenty of ways to cobble together a functional party in this state, but ever since the voters neutered the cabinet, the neo-porkchoppers have taken control, and somehow the south of the state has become the power-base for Dems, leaving the rural, but populist counties to go uncontested.

  228. 228.

    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:20 pm

    @Ted:

    So in other words, the current expectation is that Romney LOSES. George H.W. Bush, Dole, McCain and now Romney–where do you guys keep finding these losers?

  229. 229.

    Ted

    November 2, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @redshirt:

    That’s my real first name. Got a problem with it?

  230. 230.

    GeneJockey

    November 2, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @Ted:

    I’m white. Should I stay home to insure an Obama victory?

  231. 231.

    Davis X. Machina

    November 2, 2012 at 8:21 pm

    @Violet: The Great NE Model Wars are at least as bad as Mac v. Intel wars

  232. 232.

    Cmm

    November 2, 2012 at 8:22 pm

    @redshirt:

    Thanks for the good wishes, I appreciate it. Not sure if it is harder being a lib in copland or a cop in libland, but I yam what I yam.

  233. 233.

    Davis X. Machina

    November 2, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    @redshirt: That’s UNLIMITED CORPORATE TED to you, buster.

  234. 234.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:24 pm

    @Ted: What if it’s an off white? Say, a sort of eggshell? What happens if the Antique Linen block turns out? I understand the Ecru community is very motivated this year.

  235. 235.

    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    If only 1% of the black voters magically turned white, Romney would WIN IN A LANDSLIDE. Scared yet, libs?

  236. 236.

    jibeaux

    November 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    DAMMIT DO NOT ENGAGE I REPEAT DO NOT ENGAGE JINDAL ON THE TWITTERMACHINE IS FUNNIER ANYWAY.

  237. 237.

    amk

    November 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    Hey AL, Can the stoopid troll.

  238. 238.

    Violet

    November 2, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    @Davis X. Machina: Heh. As an avid hurricane watcher, I know all about the model wars. People are funny about stuff like that.

  239. 239.

    Mark S.

    November 2, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    If only white slaveholders could vote, like the goddamn Framers intended, Romney would win every MOTHER FUCKING STATE

  240. 240.

    MattR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:27 pm

    @Violet: I still can’t believe we actually got out of Newark airport on Wednesday night. We actually ended up in a bigger plane so they could fit some of the folks who had been stuck and there were actually a couple empty seats (and I think it is nicer when the configuration has no middle seat between the middle and aisle. The plane was supposed to be 3-3 but instead was 2-3-2) The worst part is going to be getting home from the 8 hour flight on Monday to discover my power is still out (or that our car service can’t pick us up because they are all out of gas – they were rejecting requests to go to JFK when we flew out)

  241. 241.

    MikeJ

    November 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @redshirt: My two close calls:
    Was in a DC9 climbing out of Memphis. 60 seconds after takeoff, we nose over and level out about 1000’AGL. The pilot comes on to apologize for the little “dipsy doodle” (as the pilot called it), seems a private plane strayed in front of us.

    Another time, 737 about 5 minutes out of STL, still climbing, right engine dies because of an oil pump. Returned and made what I was incredibly happy to call a boring landing.

    Not really trouble, but several times when sitting in the first row I’ve heard the ground proximity warning system going. “TERRAIN! TERRAIN! PULL UP! PULL UP!” Of course every time I’ve heard it we were on standard approach, but somebody forgot to flip the switch before final.

  242. 242.

    Roger Moore

    November 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @Cmm:

    Tinker, Evers and Chance

    Spahn, and Sain, and Two Days of Rain.

  243. 243.

    West of the Rockies (formerly Frank W.)

    November 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @Another Halocene Human: Thanks for the reply, AHH… As I said, it’ll be real interesting theatre watching the far-right start flinging poo in all directions, looking for whom to blame for Romney’s loss on Tuesday.

  244. 244.

    Arm The Homeless

    November 2, 2012 at 8:28 pm

    @different-church-lady: The Taupe people will never submit!

  245. 245.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:29 pm

    @Ted: Perhaps you need to ask yourself how things transpired in your life that resulted in your coming to the conclusion that being supremely annoying was something to be proud of.

  246. 246.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    November 2, 2012 at 8:30 pm

    @jibeaux: Shouldn’t he be more concerned about what Alabama is going to do to his bayou Bengals?

  247. 247.

    Mnemosyne

    November 2, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    I don’t know about anyone else, but I’m pretty impressed that a talking stuffed animal is able to articulate his fingers enough to type.

    Bravo, sir.

  248. 248.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 8:31 pm

    @Mark S.: Yo, where your property at?

  249. 249.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Ted: No Sir! Not at all. It’s a fine name – short for Edward, I assume?

    You should go by Ned next time.

  250. 250.

    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:33 pm

    @Ted:

    UNSKEWED POLLS! UNSKEWED POLLS!!

  251. 251.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:37 pm

    @Ted: What if Frum is off by 2%?

    What happens if a white person votes for Obama?

    How much wood could a wood chuck chuck if a wood chuck could chuck wood?

  252. 252.

    Anne Laurie

    November 2, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @quannlace: Happy birthday?

  253. 253.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    @Ted: That’s not a very confident troll.

    You know, at this point, anyone could become PO simply by using bad logic and odd bolding choices. Troll free for all.

  254. 254.

    Anne Laurie

    November 2, 2012 at 8:39 pm

    P.S. For deliberate readers: New Open Thread up top.

  255. 255.

    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    You guys do not get it.

    What if ALL THE POLLS ARE WRONG? Then Ted can make up whatever numbers he wants, and he can spend FOUR MORE DAYS pretending that ROMNEY WILL WIN.

  256. 256.

    Ted

    November 2, 2012 at 8:40 pm

    Oh, and I am afraid for you losers that True the Vote and Project ORCA will be out and OUT IN TOTAL FORCE.

  257. 257.

    Lojasmo

    November 2, 2012 at 8:41 pm

    @Jay C:

    No. Ras usually autocorrects in the last week. The popular vote will be close.

  258. 258.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:44 pm

    @Ted: Until you give me a Pantone number you’re all talk.

  259. 259.

    Mr Stagger Lee

    November 2, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    @Ted: What you need to do to insure that 74% White vote, is for you and your buddies to ride in white sheets plus the ones for the horses to ride up to where all those uppity negras live and SCARE them from voting!(Also be sure to have some dramatic music play in the background) Then at last the Mittster wins you can relax with your girl on the beach live in happiness ever after especially with a image of Jesus reigning glory hallelujah! Re-Birth of a Nation Ted Re-birth of a Nation!

  260. 260.

    Drew

    November 2, 2012 at 8:47 pm

    @Ted: For Tuesday night, remember: down the highway, not across the street.

  261. 261.

    1badbaba3

    November 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Culture of Truth: Ah, Petunia and Pals. The Pals, of course being The Dumb One and The Other Dumb One. And the beauty of it is that it doesn’t matter if there is a male guest host ‘cos the nickname will always fit. Those wily pox snooze fucks. That’s entertainment!

  262. 262.

    Chyron HR

    November 2, 2012 at 8:49 pm

    @Ted:

    Oh, and I am afraid for you losers that we’re going to administer POLL TAXES and LITERACY TESTS for TOTAL FORCE VICTORY.

    Why not? As George W. Bush (the last guy you mistook for the Messiah) famously quipped, “The Constitution is just a goddamned piece of paper.”

  263. 263.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 8:51 pm

    @Arm The Homeless: I am one of the polka dot people. Which color should I go with? So confusing.

  264. 264.

    different-church-lady

    November 2, 2012 at 8:55 pm

    @muddy: Clearly you need to split your ballot.

  265. 265.

    Mike in NC

    November 2, 2012 at 8:59 pm

    “Ted the Erection Swallower” has a nice ring to it.

  266. 266.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 9:03 pm

    @MikeJ: There’s nothing past Manassas. The commuter rail ends at Broad Run.

    :-D

    //

  267. 267.

    Redshift

    November 2, 2012 at 9:04 pm

    @trollhattan:

    “Jiffy Lube Live”? I’ma not touching that, even with this here 3.5m pole.

    My brother-in-law used to live in nearby Manassas. Apparently locals refer to it as “The Lube.”

  268. 268.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 9:05 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:
    @Culture of Truth:

    “Where are the conservative performers?”

    They’re on the ballot.

    Katy Perry, Tim Tebow, and the Perry and Tebow family Tent Revivals! Yeeeeee-haaaaaw!

  269. 269.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 9:08 pm

    @different-church-lady: Never! I think the freckle color will win next week.

  270. 270.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 9:13 pm

    @Mnemosyne: What I loved best about that story is that they called the IBEW for comment and the IBEW had to clear up the fact that Seaside is not even represented by the IBEW. (So how could IBEW have turned them away when IBEW isn’t even the hiring hall [insert manic, circular ranting for another 30 seconds].)

    We’re about halfway up bullshit mountain here, at least.

    I guess the Decatur outfit learned well from FOX. The student has become the master, and all that.

  271. 271.

    Mark S.

    November 2, 2012 at 9:15 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    That’s his stage name.

  272. 272.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 9:16 pm

    @Violet: The Hardin guy won’t return phone calls now. Not surprising since the story probably isn’t true.

    Hahahahaha, sounds like somebody lied to the boss. Busted!

  273. 273.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 9:17 pm

    @Another Halocene Human:
    Katy Perry demands a recount!
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/25/katy-perry-ballot-dress_n_2015371.html

  274. 274.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 9:18 pm

    @muddy: The problem with an amusement park staycation is that people drive hundreds of miles to get away from IL weather. It’s okay for a few minutes in the fall and spring but the kids are in school then in full academic swing.

    What Mall of America got right was putting everything indoors and climate controlled. I presume Old Chicago was your oldschool outdoor setup.

  275. 275.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    @trollhattan: Katy Perry has more eyelash than brain.

  276. 276.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 2, 2012 at 9:19 pm

    @MikeJ: I was touring through Kaunas, Lithuania. Only found out about the events of the day 6 hours after the fact, by sheer accident, when I stopped into an Internet cafe to check NFL scores. I wrote it up for a diary at GOS but can’t provide a link until (& unless) that site decidees to load; you could look it up.

  277. 277.

    trollhattan

    November 2, 2012 at 9:22 pm

    @muddy:
    True, true, but you have to admit it’s a nice dress.

  278. 278.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    @Another Halocene Human: No, it was indoors.

  279. 279.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 9:26 pm

    @trollhattan: Yes, nice dress. Much better than cupcake boobs.

  280. 280.

    Uncle Cosmo

    November 2, 2012 at 9:36 pm

    @muddy: Liver spots are a bitch, ain’t they?

  281. 281.

    muddy

    November 2, 2012 at 9:38 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: I don’t know that I could notice if I had any, I think I have more freckles than the light blue background skin.

  282. 282.

    Mnemosyne

    November 2, 2012 at 10:00 pm

    @Another Halocene Human:

    I presume Old Chicago was your oldschool outdoor setup.

    Not at all — it was much more similar to Mall of America, where you had an enclosed amusement park in the center of an enclosed mall.

    The mistake they seem to have made was to fill the mall part with a bunch of souvenir-type places instead of Marshall Fields and JC Penneys so no one went there unless they were planning to go to the amusement park. And not that many people were going to the amusement park.

    I definitely remember going on the swings (which were kind of like these) but not a whole lot else.

    ETA: Here’s an article with photos at defunctparks.com.

  283. 283.

    MattR

    November 2, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    @muddy: After watching this video I say, leave Katy alone!!!

  284. 284.

    Ksmiami

    November 2, 2012 at 10:03 pm

    @The Other Bob: will do… Also wtf are the Romney signs doing in my bham hood? Idiots

  285. 285.

    Betsy

    November 2, 2012 at 10:04 pm

    @Brachiator: the Master was one dog of a movie, and three and half fucking hours long. Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Boring! First twenty minutes was interesting and intriguing; after that, all mind-fucking and boredom.

  286. 286.

    catclub

    November 2, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    @cathyx: Maybe they were getting their supplies from seizures?

  287. 287.

    Betsy

    November 2, 2012 at 10:06 pm

    @Brachiator: the Master was one dog of a movie, and three and half fucking hours long. Ugh! Ugh! Ugh! Boring! First twenty minutes was interesting and intriguing; after that, all mind-fucking and boredom.
    @different-church-lady: if there were a way to steal someone’s pension in it, well, then yeah.

  288. 288.

    Bex

    November 2, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    @muddy: Sorry to say I didn’t. Don’t think I knew about that tradition then. My friend and I were concentrating on getting back down because the tower was not in very good shape.

  289. 289.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 10:09 pm

    @pseudonymous in nc: Apparently, the constitutional amendment questions put forward by the legislature and written in gibberish [pdf] are what’s slowing things down.

    Sad the Dems didn’t do a better job of getting the word out: just vote “NO” all the way down! It’s “NO’s” all the way, folks!

    // no warranty express or implied. offer not valid if you think forcing women on Medicaid to have babies they don’t want and racking up five figures in medical bills to the taxpayers, if all goes well, six figures if it don’t, instead of paying for a nice $250-300 early term abortion, is a good fucking idea.

  290. 290.

    nastybrutishntall

    November 2, 2012 at 10:20 pm

    @LanceThruster: ALWAYS 27% OFF. WAY WAY WAY OFF.

  291. 291.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 10:21 pm

    @jibeaux:
    OMG! He hasn’t even sobered up and baleeted everything yet! Random people are mocking at will!

    Loved this one: The simple fact is that our President is a great campaigner and a great marketer…of himself.

    The fact is…

    Bobby Jindal is Gary Ruppert? The plot thickens!

  292. 292.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 10:26 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Darrell, his brother Darrell, and his other brother Darrell.

    xD

  293. 293.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 10:32 pm

    @different-church-lady: xD

  294. 294.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 10:33 pm

    @different-church-lady: What happens if a white person votes for Obama?

    Rip in the space-time continuum, duh. Which is why when they enter the early vote tallies on Tuesday, shit is going to start flying.

    What can I say? I love me some good ‘splosions.

  295. 295.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 10:35 pm

    @trollhattan: Gasp! You mean Katy Perry experimented with more than S-E-X with fur-rin-ners?

    HIDE THE CHILDREN!

    Also, who let her on Sesame Street? FIRE THE DAMN BIG BIRD, ALREADY!

  296. 296.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 10:36 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    Thanks for that. As an aside, Schlachthof-funf was a reminder thast two of my favorite words to pronounce in German were 5 & 12.

  297. 297.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 10:38 pm

    @nastybrutishntall:

    That number is really starting to bug me.

  298. 298.

    Another Halocene Human

    November 2, 2012 at 10:40 pm

    @Mnemosyne: That kind of kills me, in a way.

    I, for one, did not enjoy Mall of America. Endured would be more like it. But I could see someone getting a kick out of Disney even though I’m more of a skeptic. Okay, a lot of a skeptic. And EPCOT has an epic mold problem that has made me violently ill every time I’ve been.

  299. 299.

    LanceThruster

    November 2, 2012 at 10:42 pm

    Jeez, that Alan Osmond site (thefamily.com) is creepy.

    I shouldn’t have gotten off the boat.

  300. 300.

    redshirt

    November 2, 2012 at 10:51 pm

    I’m sure I’d hate it in truth, but I’ve always wondered if living in a mall wouldn’t be awesome. Mall of America, specifically. Waking up, stepping down the escalator for an Orange Julius, then to “Stretch Your Back” for a back stretch, and finally to the florist to smell the roses. What a life! And that’s just the morning.

  301. 301.

    Mnemosyne

    November 3, 2012 at 12:14 am

    @redshirt:

    I remember reading a YA (Young Adult) book when I was a kid about a boy and girl who set up housekeeping at a mall (though chastely, since this was the 1970s and it was a kids’ book) but I don’t remember the title of it. Basically, they would pretend to be mannequins during the day and then run around at night.

    No, it was not From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler, but it was along those lines.

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