Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

People identifying as christian while ignoring christ and his teachings is a strange thing indeed.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

The arc of the moral universe does not bend itself. it is up to us to bend it.

There are some who say that there are too many strawmen arguments on this blog.

Whatever happens next week, the fight doesn’t end.

The snowflake in chief appeared visibly frustrated when questioned by a reporter about egg prices.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

“Perhaps I should have considered other options.” (head-desk)

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

Radicalized white males who support Trump are pitching a tent in the abyss.

Yeah, with this crowd one never knows.

The words do not have to be perfect.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

SCOTUS: It’s not “bribery” unless it comes from the Bribery region of France. Otherwise, it’s merely “sparkling malfeasance”.

Giving in to doom is how authoritarians win.

It’s pointless to bring up problems that can only be solved with a time machine.

Consistently wrong since 2002

“But what about the lurkers?”

They think we are photo bombing their nice little lives.

Let there be snark.

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Their boy Ron is an empty plastic cup that will never know pudding.

Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.

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In the Senate, welcome Senators Warren, Donnelly, Murphy, King, Heitkamp (hopefully), Kaine and (hooray) Tammy Baldwin (our first openly gay Senator).

In the House, Bachmann is only 400 votes ahead, while Maine, Maryland and Washington appear to have approved gay marriage and Colorado and Washington state to have legalized recreational marijuana. Minnesota’s gay marriage vote is on a knife edge.

We may not have taken the House back, but in my books tonight counts as a big fucking deal.

What else are you celebrating tonight?

ETA: “Signed, sealed, delivered”. Hee.

EATA:

Tammy Duckworth, a true American Hero, has been elected to the US House of Representatives, replacing a deadbeat teabagger, Joe Walsh.

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  3. 3.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    In California, the “three strikes” law is being narrowed to make it so that the third “strike” will only be a serious, violent felony, and that some people who got ridiculous third strikes will be re-sentenced.

    That’s one.

  7. 7.

    suzanne

    In Arizona’s new CD-9, it looks likely that the district will start off blue, with Kyrsten Sinema, an openly bisexual woman winning.

  9. 9.

    Mnemosyne

    OMG the girls are so tall now! I haven’t really seen them recently.

    And, of course, Mrs. O is wearing a sleeveless dress with a cardigan and looking fabulous.

  15. 15.

    Spaghetti Lee

    I am celebrating, in my home district, the DEFEAT of DEADBEAT TEABAGGER SCUMBAG Joe Walsh, and my new congresswoman, the honorable Tammy Duckworth. I hope Walsh finds a nice therapist and takes up beekeeping or something, because he just got kicked out of the political arena so hard he won’t be able to sit for a week.

  21. 21.

    Suffern ACE

    That I can call John Snunununu a LOOser. And that I expect not to have to hear from him for a few years.

  23. 23.

    shirk

    I didn’t tear up when they announced he had won, but I am now that he’s walking out for the acceptance speech. Reminds me of how cathartic four years ago was.

  26. 26.

    trollhattan

    Is that Oprah directly behind him with the flag sticking out of her hair? A Zelig moment.

  28. 28.

    BGinCHI

    Watching Obama and fucking sleepy.

    I’m glad we dodged the shit-covered bullet of stupidity.

    I’m gonna sleep so soundly tonight and dream of Jack Welch falling down a deep, deep well.

  29. 29.

    Mnemosyne

    Oprah, stop manuvering yourself to appear on camera in the background! It’s not about you!

  30. 30.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    what are you celebrating

    being able to think charitable thoughts about the majority of my fellow citizens for the next 4 years

  32. 32.

    Corner Stone

    What else are you celebrating tonight?

    I just want to thank the good lords that I will never, ever, have to read the fucking “Rmoney” spelling. Ever. Ever, again.
    Fuck.

  39. 39.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    I’m hoping that the pot legalization things, whether the Feds fight them or not, allow columnists and reporters to move beyond the deep, abiding need to use stupid pseudo-hippy-dippy belittling language when writing about the issue.

  41. 41.

    dmsilev

    The Onion: “‘I Want To Congratulate The President,’ Romney Says In 240,000th And Final Lie Of Campaign”

  43. 43.

    Corner Stone

    @trollhattan:

    Shoutout to Onion Joe, who’s out back hittin’ on some biker chicks.

    Hell. They’re all doing body shots on the back of the Harley whoever Joe wakes up with.

  45. 45.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    Tomorrow is going to be one long, hung over, tired day. But FSM is it worth it! 4 More years, baby!

  46. 46.

    trollhattan

    Yes on the campaign team kudos. They executed nearly 100% of their plan, which is mindboggling.

  47. 47.

    Petorado

    Obama never fails to take the classy route. Best man for the job he just won again. Great speech so far. Glad we had had, as a nation, the wisdom to do the right thing.

  48. 48.

    KG

    Nevada Senate race, 54% in, Heller up by 6,289, that’s less than .6%.

    Meantime, Obama sounding presidential again

  49. 49.

    Helen

    @Xecky Gilchrist: Yes yes yes. I am in NY. Cuomo wanted pot legal and same sex marriage legal. He got the latter, YAY. He actually thinks the former will be more difficult. Let’s see.

  50. 50.

    JustAnotherBob

    @MobiusKlein:

    2014, Dems take back the House.
    Book it.

    Celebrate Wednesday

    Start working on 2014 on Thursday

    Two years of Democratic control could fix a hell of a lot of problems.

  52. 52.

    Soonergrunt

    Tammy Duckworth, a true American Hero, has been elected to the US House of Representatives, replacing a deabeat teabagger, Joe Walsh.

  53. 53.

    Joel

    Is Heitkamp in? I know she’s leading but the precincts are so small in ND that the percentages change fast.

    If she wins, thats +1 on my prediction. If Berkeley pulls it off in Nevada, thats +2. Didn’t think she had a chance and it looks like a long-ish shot. But you never know. Presidential coattails are what made that race even competitive, IMHO.

  55. 55.

    The Nameless One

    @JCJ: Looks so right, doesn’t it?

    Congratulations, America. You all should be very proud of this moment, even those who don’t believe it.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    What else are you celebrating tonight?

    I’m celebrating baiting a couple moron ass repubs into mini-Romney sized bets over a “40% tax rate” coming to be shoved up their ass.

  59. 59.

    Keith G

    I am celebrating the wonderful speech I am hearing.

    Welcome back, Barak. This time please stick around.

  62. 62.

    Laura

    Can I be the shallow female here and say that the ginger Kennedy taking over for Barney Frank is quite attractive?

  70. 70.

    trollhattan

    @Joel:
    NBC had called it for her awhile back. Don’t know whether others concur.

    I’d predicted the call for Obama would be at 9:00 PST and he beat it my 45 minutes. Still holding out for 330 EVs.

  71. 71.

    Keith G

    I am celebrating the wonderful speech I am hearing – a very great statement.

    Welcome back, Barak. This time please stick around.

  72. 72.

    Arclite

    Listening to Big O’s acceptance speech. Damn, he’s good. He really is a terrific speaker.

  76. 76.

    Geoduck

    As noted, my state (WA) confirmed gay marriage and legalized pot. Also good, it appears we’ve staved off the most dangerous GOP candidate for governor to come along in many a year, Rob McKenna. He’s a lying two-faced weasel who as Attorney General dragged the state into the anti-Obamacare lawsuit against the wishes of every other elected official in the state. My Congressional district got re-done, and we’ve been cut loose from the mouthbreathers, giving us a new Democratic rep. Bad news, local gadfly Tim Eyman is back with another idiotic referendum to help blow further holes in the state budget.

  80. 80.

    trollhattan

    @me:
    Only if Rupert pulls the plug. I think they’ll pat him on the back for being so gosh darn brave tonight.

  82. 82.

    Mnemosyne

    @LAC:

    The guy standing next to her (who’s partially off camera right now) looks a lot like Steadman.

    I’m just sayin’.

  88. 88.

    Yutsano

    So we’re looking at a 55-45 Senate. For what was projected to be a bloodbath, I’LL TAKE IT!!

  89. 89.

    shirk

    Holy shit.
    211 of 280 precincts reporting, and Graves is up on Bachmann:

    MICHELE BACHMANN 124470 49.62%
    JIM GRAVES 125627 50.09%

    Oh, please please please please please please please….

  91. 91.

    JGabriel

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    Holy Cow.

    If President Obama had given a speech like that during the campaign, it would have been a frickin’ landslide.

    Amazing.

    .

  92. 92.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    Erick, Son of Erick, has a post up blaming Rmoney for being a failure. Erick forgets that the Republican party put up as shit list of candidates and they chose the least shittiest and lost. There’s lots of whining, gloom and doom over there.

    I’m enjoying it immensely.

    Shit, I can barely see the President through all of the confetti!

  93. 93.

    SatanicPanic

    “We are not as cynical as the pundits believe” OHHHHHHHHH that was good. What a speech! So proud of our prez!

  94. 94.

    Neil Armstrong was a government employee

    I wonder how Republicans, especially Sarah Palin, feel about being defeated, twice, by a “community organizer”? And that means of defeat came through partially by a massive but intelligently targeted organizing of GOTV efforts?

  95. 95.

    Mnemosyne

    Was that Rachel sniffling into her microphone?

    Also, too, I cannot WAIT to see what Onion Joe Biden’s acceptance speech will be.

  100. 100.

    Mary G

    We’ve gotta work on getting Republicans out of local positions where they are in charge of elections.

  104. 104.

    Bubba Dave

    Oh, yeah, THAT’S the guy I knocked on doors for in Ohio in ’08, and gave more $ than I could afford this year. THAT’S my president.

    BubbaDave +4 and tearing up and unashamed

  105. 105.

    me

    @dmsilev: I think he’s been too aggressive with his idiocy and Rupert and the Koch’s will have had enough. He’ll probably collect wingnut welfare at the Heritage Foundation and write a column at the WSJ but I don’t think he’ll be a big money man any more.

  115. 115.

    catatonia

    Yeah, they are tall.

    That’s a goddamn good looking family. It’s almost unfair that people can be that smart, talented, good looking. And, evidently, decent. Many people, in our celebrity drenched culture that edifies the beautiful, the talented, the famous, the glib, the successful, see all that and feel small and insignificant. They default to pettiness and bitterness, and thus become easy picking for the demagogues who Circe-like sing the same old sordid racist shit song, and they buy into it.

    OK, this doesn’t make a whole hell of a lot of sense. I’m +8 and damn glad Obama won. But life is still unfair and always will be, because some people pull the triple cherries genetically and some people don’t. If faith moves mountains, resentment causes tectonic shifts, and I think that’s the root of a lot of the hatred of this man.

  116. 116.

    BlueDWarrior

    How is Berkeley looking in NV.
    the two biggest counties aren’t reporting fully but Heller’s lead is stubbornly around 5K-8K.

    It’d be hilarious if the D+I Senate Split ended up at 56
    (Heithkamp and Tester look like they are holding on even if not by much in the raw vote count)

  118. 118.

    SuperHrefna

    I love the President. I have hope for the country now. Things are messed up, it is true, but with his cool, intelligent, compassionate head in charge we will get what needs doing done. So happy, so very, very happy.

  120. 120.

    digitals3rf

    The balls on this sack of shit Bitch McConnell. Already he’s talking about how Obama has no mandate, needs to kiss the butt of the Republican House, blah blah blah. I hope Reid eliminates the filibuster and stomps his turtleness.

  127. 127.

    Soonergrunt

    NBC just projected that Congresswoman Crazy-eyes Michele Bachmann will be defeated by her Democratic challenger.
    A few seconds ago, the challenger, Greaves, was up by 187 votes with 78% of the precincts reporting.

  128. 128.

    JordanRules

    @Helen: I couldn’t believe his mind went there at that moment. Really Chris? It was ridiculous! As was his earlier tweety-gasm about how Romneys mormonism wasn’t an issue and how we don’t have religious tests in this country and nobody goes there with respect to candidates religion. Mercy.

  132. 132.

    Mnemosyne

    Had to turn off MSNBC because Tweety’s yammering was driving me up the wall, so it’s probably time for bed.

  133. 133.

    trollhattan

    @Elizabelle:
    Am wondering whether they can retain enough of this campaign organization to target winnable districts. I’d love to see 2006 redux.

    Also, too, shut up Tweety.

  134. 134.

    Helen

    @Helen:

    BWA HA HA. O’Donnell just looked at Tweety and said “I don’t care that he didn’t mention other politicians.

    Oh here goes Tweety again.

  140. 140.

    Seanly

    Great sppech, great results, great night not just for Democrats but also for America.

    Obama has a beautiful family. He gives a great speech.

    Great, great news about all the Senate seats and throwing out some of the worst representatives.

  141. 141.

    Angela

    Agree: shut up Tweety! And now Ed jumps in. Thanks Rev Al, and now Rachel will jump in. Please.

  142. 142.

    Cermet

    Hell, LBJ is smiling now – he, more than just about anyone help make it possible for a Black to become president in the US of A.

    Here in Maryland, besides Gay Marriage now allowed by law, we had the “Dream Act” pass so children who were not born in the US but attended school/High School here as their parents paid taxes can pay instate fee’s for college. This IS a big deal because this state is run and controlled by non-Hispanic whites – Hispanics are a very small group here. Also, this state verwhelmingly voted for President Obama.

  143. 143.

    JCT

    Hah- great call to my first-time voter son. Reminded him that the first time I voted I was also a college freshman, but Reagan won. That truly sucked.

  144. 144.

    Laertes

    In California, prop 40 was an orphan. The original “no on 40” people dropped their opposition when a court rendered it a moot issue. “Yes” was the only sensible vote.

    27% voted no. John Rogers is once again revealed as a prophet.

  152. 152.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Soonergrunt:

    NBC just projected that Congresswoman Crazy-eyes Michele Bachmann will be defeated by her Democratic challenger.

    Hold yer horses. I have a long-suffering friend in MN-6 who says that Bachmann’s camp thinks the remaining precincts are good for her. I don’t want to celebrate early on this and be disappointed.

  155. 155.

    Elizabelle

    @trollhattan:

    I think they need to keep Organizing for America together and doing backup on policy support and 2014.

    Lesson learned from healthcare, please.

    Channel that energy. Don’t let it rest. President Obama and the Democrats in office can not do it alone.

    We need to have their backs.

  157. 157.

    Mnemosyne

    I should probably let the pron-watchers among us know that Measure B seems to be winning pretty handily here in Los Angeles County, so resign yourselves to seeing condoms used in your porn from now on.

    You’ll get over it.

  158. 158.

    shirk

    Yeah, it doesn’t look like MSNBC has actually declared Bachmann’s race yet.
    Bachmann is back up on top with 81% counted, 138,440 to 136,750.
    I have to believe this one’s going to a recount, no matter who wins at first.

  160. 160.

    Elizabelle

    @hildebrand:

    Watch C-Span.

    First time voter caller on now “I’m very young. I also got my mom out to vote.”

    Q: why did he win?

    A: his supporters. They were out there knocking on doors, mentions voter registration.

  164. 164.

    Ash Can

    ::staggers in shitfaced drunk::

    I was just watching the local ABC station before turning off the TV — they were broadcasting the prez’s speech — and the news announcers mentioned more than once that the difference between Romney’s crowd and Obama’s crowd was striking; that Obama’s crowd looked much more like America looks now, and that the GOP has a big job on its hands to reach out to all the women and young folks and folks of color and etcetera, and that this would be the key to the GOP’s future, if it was to have any. So it looks like at least these newsies get it!

  166. 166.

    Nutella

    What is with these people in WI-01? Ryan’s such a nice guy who went to the same high school I did so of course I’ll vote for him to starve my granny because it will bring so much attention to our district!

    link

  167. 167.

    piratedan

    Tweety is talking about who is representing the Dems on TV, yo Tweety… if the cabinet members don’t get invited by the shows, how do they get the pub? Maybe you should talk to someone about who the fuck you invite on your OWN show.

  169. 169.

    Arclite

    NBC Just called Virginia for Obama. WOW.

    @ John Cole: Why weren’t you able to deliver West Virginia to Obama?

  172. 172.

    robertdsc-iPhone 4

    We can retire the “Black Jimmy Carter” tag now.

    Fuck you, GOP. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.

  173. 173.

    Cacti

    They still haven’t called Florida?

    I have a hard time believing that Mitt can make up 63,000 votes with what’s left.

  175. 175.

    SectarianSofa

    Guns are gonna be outlawed! Again. Just like in 2008. Wingnut tears, you glisten in the moonlight!

  176. 176.

    HelpThe99ers

    It’s been a good night.

    Locally, one less Tea Partier: Sean Patrick Maloney defeated Nan Hayworth in the NY 18th.

    Pluses by addition: Elizabeth Warren (!!)

    Pluses by subtraction: Allen West, Michele Bachmann (maybe).

    Post-election analysis: seeing how much the 2010 GOP wave may have receded.

  177. 177.

    Greg

    Sounds like I turned off MSNBC right no time. Couldn’t let Tweety harsh my buzz.

    The one time in my life it looks like every single vote I made has gone my way. I’m especially pleased that it looks like Inslee is going to pull it out against that asshole McKenna.

    and Gay marriage, super yay!

    I honestly don’t care much about marijuana, but I sincerely hope that the end of its prohibition here is the first step down the road of dismantling this country’s bloated prison/police industrial complex.

  179. 179.

    You Know Who

    Congrats Obama. A victory for more spending, more debt, more dependency, moew qwlfare, a military stripped to the bone…Greece here we come..right down the drain of bankruptcy but hey queers can marry and get taxpayer funded sex change operations.

    This country is screwed now. Hope the House can hold off Obambi until Rubio in 2016 if we survive as a nation that long.

    The public has finally learned, as a majority, that they can vote themselves largesse from the taxpayer. Despotism here we come.

  180. 180.

    trollhattan

    Jerry is on my teebee machine telling me Prop 30–his tax package for schools–is passing and the anti-union Prop 32 is failing, despite the Koch anonymous ratfucking ($11M worth).

  181. 181.

    Cacti

    @Ash Can:

    I was just watching the local ABC station before turning off the TV —they were broadcasting the prez’s speech—and the news announcers mentioned more than once that the difference between Romney’s crowd and Obama’s crowd was striking; that Obama’s crowd looked much more like America looks now, and that the GOP has a big job on its hands to reach out to all the women and young folks and folks of color and etcetera, and that this would be the key to the GOP’s future, if it was to have any. So it looks like at least these newsies get it!

    The Latina Repub on CNN who’s name I didn’t catch made a salient point. She said that Mitt terrified hispanic voters and “self-deported” from the White House.

    Filthy liar Ari Fleischer also made the point that Dubya won 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, while Willard took about 27%.

  182. 182.

    Viva BrisVegas

    Can I just congratulate America on making a very wise choice.

    In the present circumstances Mr Obama is the best President that your country could have. Certainly he’s too good for half the country, but they get the benefit anyway.

    That’s democracy for you. You always need to consider the worst option before you get to the best.

  184. 184.

    Villago Delenda Est

    I wonder what happened to that “insurmountable” 5 point lead for Rmoney in Florida?

    I guess the UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH wasn’t nearly as decisive as some hoped it would be.

  185. 185.

    WaterGirl

    The really good news is that Obama was elected again and we get to keep health care and medicare and social security. And some really great people got elected to the senate! And we proved that out-organizing the other side can bring victory even in the face of dark money.

    But I also think Citizens United had a major victory today – I think that’s why we lost so many of the house races today. They basically bought the U.S. house of representatives. We are going to need a coordinated effort to out-organize the republicans if we want to take back the house in 2014.

  186. 186.

    Cacti

    @You Know Who:

    You finally showed up, Political Derp.

    How does it feel to be part of the loser/cracker/old fart party?

    Does it sadden you to know that the Southern Strategy is dead and buried?

  190. 190.

    Soonergrunt

    NBC just called the race for teabagger crazy man war criminal Allen West. They are declaring Patrick Murphy the winner of that race.

    It’s a rough night for the teabagger crazy people.

  191. 191.

    You Know Who

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Busing in illegals and bribing voters with taxpayer goodies can buy anyone an election.

    Just don’t ask successful folks like Mitt Romney from the dreaded Top One Percent the next time you need a loan or a job.

  196. 196.

    Soonergrunt

    @You Know Who: Please–since this country is no longer your cup of tea, you being fucking delusional and all, shoot yourself in the fucking head. But do it AFTER you spend the next couple of threads moping and whining.
    ETA: VICTORY!

  197. 197.

    Elizabelle

    CSpan replay of Romney concession. NOW.

    Snoozed through it live.

    And it will be Chris Matthews free!

  201. 201.

    elaine benes

    @WaterGirl:

    I’ve been thinking this as well. Obama’s got the perfect opportunity this term to move weed off/down the controlled substances list. I could totally see him doing it too.

  202. 202.

    Cacti

    @Soonergrunt:

    It’s a rough night for the teabagger crazy people.

    Nah.

    Crazy Al is going to make out like a bandit now.

    He’ll be a fixture as “Republican of color” on the all of the networks.

  203. 203.

    Randiego

    Are you kidding me? Wisconsin just elected a Republican State Senate; back to complete Republican control. Fuck me.

  204. 204.

    You Know Who

    @Cacti:

    The United States, as a project, may very well be dead and buried. Perhaps it is time for one or more of the several sovereign states to take matters into their own hands if we see more debt, more dependency, more taxes, and more tyranny.

    Welcome to the United States of Greece.

    The USSR was Upper Volta with rockets. Soon if the Democrat part continues to bribe voters with the taxpayer dime the USA will be the Netherlands with nukes.

  207. 207.

    trollhattan

    @You Know Who:

    Just don’t ask successful folks like Mitt Romney from the dreaded Top One Percent the next time you need a loan or a job.

    Because…Galt’s Gulch? Aspen? Kolob?
    Moar tears please, tub’s not full enough for my reinvigorating bath.

  208. 208.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    @You Know Who:

    Just don’t ask successful folks like Mitt Romney from the dreaded Top One Percent the next time you need a loan or a job.

    Meh. I wasn’t planning a move to China anyway.

  209. 209.

    Cacti

    @You Know Who:

    The United States, as a project, may very well be dead and buried. Perhaps it is time for one or more of the several sovereign states to take matters into their own hands if we see more debt, more dependency, more taxes, and more tyranny.

    Typical confederate party rubbish. When an election doesn’t go your way, start with the secession talk.

  210. 210.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    Every Nate Silver appearance on TV for the next 2 years should begin with “Kneel before Zod!”

  211. 211.

    trollhattan

    Looks like that knob Lundgren may hold his seat in the nation’s most contested House seat. They’ll be counting paper ballots awhile, methinks.

  212. 212.

    Nodakfarmboy

    So psyched about Heidi Heitkamp! Spent the last four days knocking on doors and making calls, and it appears to have paid off.

    Huge night for the North Dakota Dem-NPL!

    nodakfarmboy +5

  214. 214.

    Elizabelle

    Romney looks chastened.

    Good Jeebus. Did he think he had a chance?

    The perils of living in the FoxWorld bubbles.

    Paean now to the goodness of our religious leaders, with their principles. And the business leaders. And he believes in America.

    But not the one that turned out in 2008 and tonight.

  215. 215.

    Mnemosyne

    @You Know Who:

    Just don’t ask successful folks like Mitt Romney from the dreaded Top One Percent the next time you need a loan or a job.

    That’s right, companies don’t actually need employees — stores like Staples magically stock themselves and sell goods to customers with no need for human intervention by stockers or sales clerks, so anyone you see “working” there is only there out of the kindness of Mitt Romney’s heart.

    Thanks for bringing your vast knowledge of how business works to us today.

  217. 217.

    Hal

    What the fuck is up with Chris Matthews? How many times is he going to bitch about Obama not specifically mentioning Bill Clinton? Clinton was the second person he called. And it’s a speech at 145am. Obama probably knew people wanted to go the fuck home.

  220. 220.

    Another Halocene Human

    @PsiFighter37: Stupid little old ladies who vote for an Irish name with a “D” after it and who apparently don’t read the fucking paper. Or maybe it’s middle aged ladies, but most of them talk to people. Meh. Mass Dem’s dodged a bullet there. But come on, how scummy is he compared to Stephen Lynch, hennghhhhh?

  221. 221.

    SectarianSofa

    @You Know Who:

    I’m not saying you should shoot yourself in the head, but if you wanted to play dick hockey with some wolverines, I say go for it. How’s that for an American project?

    Also I love Greece. Nice statuary, great people, and that olive oil is good stuff.

    Anyway, I look forward to reading more of your leaflets in the future. Go Team Socialism!

  222. 222.

    PeakVT

    Lots of House races still not called in Cali. Looks like the new redistricting commission did a good job of drawing competitive districts.

  223. 223.

    Cris (without an H)

    @elaine benes: Obama’s got the perfect opportunity this term to move weed off/down the controlled substances list. I could totally see him doing it too.

    I’d love for that to be true, but I suspect it’s not yet time for it. Obama still needs to retain his political capital for his priorities, and I don’t think he’s going to waste it on a legalization fight that his heart isn’t really in.

  224. 224.

    Cacti

    @Randiego:

    Are you kidding me? Wisconsin just elected a Republican State Senate; back to complete Republican control. Fuck me.

    Wisconsin is the state that gave us both Bob LaFollete, and Joe McCarthy.

    Political schizophrenia is in its nature.

  225. 225.

    piratedan

    @You Know Who: where the fuck were you when Bush was running up this debt? Sounds like you and your Galtian brethren should get thee hither to a place like Honduras who is screaming for capital to rebuild their nation into the utopia you seek. Sheeiit they hardly have a government there and as a bonus there’s no shoveling of snow and you can then sit smug on your verandas knowing that you damn well did build it, because it ain’t been built there yet, so you’re going to have to do it yourselves, think of the self satisfaction!

  226. 226.

    trollhattan

    @Cacti:
    I fucking LOVE tyranny and have a Gadsden flag tattooed on my tyranny bat. I’ll memorize some Sherman quotes and use it on our new confederacy.

  227. 227.

    Mnemosyne

    @You Know Who:

    Perhaps it is time for one or more of the several sovereign states to take matters into their own hands if we see more debt, more dependency, more taxes, and more tyranny.

    Oh, I would LOVE to see Alabama or Mississippi try to break off as a sovereign state. How do they plan to support themselves without the massive influx of federal dollars they currently get?

  228. 228.

    Hal

    oh yeah. Fuck all the trolls! Romney lost, and you suck. Even though I’m pretty sure that was only one person. But still, fuck everyone of you. HA!

  231. 231.

    joeyess

    @You Know Who:

    The USSR was Upper Volta with rockets. Soon if the Democrat part continues to bribe voters with the taxpayer dime the USA will be the Netherlands with nukes.

    Does that mean I can haz a hookah?

  232. 232.

    SectarianSofa

    Where’d that troll go? Come back here, fucker!

    Jesus, how long does it take to cut and paste that gubbledy-fuckwit nonsense? Get on it, already!

  233. 233.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    AHEM…

    There have been a couple of occasions in the past when a person or two from the BJ commentariat has chosen to slag off my Grand Rapids, MI as Jesusville. My reply has always been that the city proper has always been much more diverse and liberal than we have been credited. Now for some proof:

    GR voters decriminalize marijuana

  234. 234.

    Elizabelle

    @PeakVT:

    Yeah.

    Cali’s redistricting program might do a lot of good, applied nationwide.

    Shook up the game, probably to the good.

  235. 235.

    pseudonymous in nc

    So, is Who Gives A Fuck saying that the convoy to Galt’s Gulch leaves tomorrow, with Mittens in the front? If so, I need to gather some rotten fruit to wave them off.

  236. 236.

    Greyjoy

    Just don’t ask successful folks like Mitt Romney from the dreaded Top One Percent the next time you need a loan or a job.

    Why would I ask them, when they’re not providing those things in the first place?

    The 1% should likewise not come looking to me for a job or a loan the next time they tank the economy and want a bailout for their hedge fund. They can go stand in the fucking breadline like they want us to do.

  238. 238.

    Cacti

    @Mnemosyne:

    Oh, I would LOVE to see Alabama or Mississippi try to break off as a sovereign state. How do they plan to support themselves without the massive influx of federal dollars they currently get?

    The Mississippi Delta is already third world America. If they seceded, they’d surpass Haiti as the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

  239. 239.

    Elizabelle

    CSpan rebroadcast of President Obama’s speech.

    RE voting: “And by the way, we need to fix that.”

    Yesss.

  241. 241.

    pseudonymous in nc

    @Elizabelle:

    Cali’s redistricting program might do a lot of good, applied nationwide.

    It’ll take a lot for that to happen, especially when redistricting down to the block delivers such goodies like it has in NC. It’s nice to celebrate democracy and stuff tonight, but the US runs elections like a pack of amateurs.

    @Elizabelle:

    RE voting: “And by the way, we need to fix that.” Yesss.

    That’s nice, but there’s only so much the federal government can do, and even the VRA is headed for SCOTUS scrutiny. Those states that don’t really give a shit about fair elections aren’t going to change on their own.

  242. 242.

    MikeJ

    @Cacti: The delta has casinos and shipyards in addition to cotton. My guess is you’ve never seen the Mississippi hill country.

  244. 244.

    Ash Can

    And another thing — all of the calls our phone banks were making (from the north/northwest side of Chicago) were to Wisconsin and Iowa. And both of those states have been called for Obama! North side represent, yo!

  246. 246.

    Elizabelle

    Take it away, Dr. Paul Krugman.

    Tomorrow — or I guess today — comes the cleanup; when thousands, perhaps millions, of right-wing heads explode, it makes quite a mess. Also, notice that the polls were right. I wonder if I can get invited when Nate Silver is sworn in as president?
    __
    OK, somewhat more seriously: one big thing that just happened was that the real America trumped the “real America”. And it’s also the election that lets us ask, finally, “Who cares what’s the matter with Kansas?”
    __
    For a long time, right-wingers — and some pundits — have peddled the notion that the “real America”, all that really counted, was the land of non-urban white people, to which both parties must abase themselves. Meanwhile, the actual electorate was getting racially and ethnically diverse, and increasingly tolerant too. The 2008 Obama coalition wasn’t a fluke; it was the country we are becoming.

    K Thug.

    For the win.

  247. 247.

    jze

    Parts of Obama’s acceptance speech should be as canonical to american politics as anything that kennedy has ever said.

  250. 250.

    trollhattan

    @pseudonymous in nc:
    Funny story. The CA redistricting scheme was a Republican initiative, that passed, and then the majority Democrats gamed the commission and map-drawing process, to the point the Republicans floated ANOTHER proposition, later abandoned, to suspend the state senate maps.

    Whew.

    Anyway, it may only be in a state with a dem supermajority that would you want to try this experiment.

    Also, too, term limits have made our legislature a clown house and the term limit proposition was funded by the Kochs, decades ago.

  253. 253.

    Elizabelle

    @Ash Can:

    Two fingers, please. Cannot have you drinking alone!

    My alarm’s set for 6 am. Got to get out and hoover up some national newspapers for the Obama archive.

  255. 255.

    ranchandsyrup

    So drunkkk and so happy. Great moment at the bar when it was called. Lots of strangers hugging and cheers-ing. Hilarious to come home and see the fb butthurtedness. Glad we went out. I would have gloated insufferably.

  258. 258.

    Elizabelle

    @pseudonymous in nc:

    Those states that don’t really give a shit about fair elections aren’t going to change on their own.

    Hello there.

    We are just going to have to drag them along to sanity.

    RE Voting Rights Act: that might be another “oh, no, what about my legacy?” moment for corporate America’s finest Supreme Court Chief Justice.

  259. 259.

    Cacti

    I think this election will be historic in the sense of being the moment where the politics of the 20th century gave way to the 21st.

    In 2008, the Obama coalition was considered the vanguard of the electoral future. In 2012, he showed that it had staying power. The future is now, and the Republicans will start having to reinvent their coalition, or spend a long time in the wilderness.

    So, historic for us nerdy political types.

  260. 260.

    Ripley

    @You Know Who: There there, hush now – hush and go to sleep. You have lost and you are a failure, but you’re a big boy – you’ll always be mama’s big, strong boy.

  261. 261.

    Hal

    Buy buy Allen West! And bye to Mia Love, the Utah Congressional candidate who was supposed to tear the Congressional Black Caucus a new one when elected. Oh well, you can still spend your time lecturing black people on hard work so they can be just like you and Herman Cain.

  263. 263.

    j

    @joeyess: Upper Volta hasn’t been called that since the coup in 1984. It’s now known as Burkina Faso. The troll* needs to keep up with current events circa 3 decades ago.

  264. 264.

    smith

    @Cacti:

    That’s basically what Steve Schmidt said. He said Republicans should quit their opposition of gay marriage and he was very upset at the loss of Latino support to the Dems.

  267. 267.

    Ash Can

    @Elizabelle: ::pours Elizabelle a cyber-bourbon::

    To PRESIDENT-ELECT ROMNEY!

    ::busts a gasket laughing::

    And to Reality Cabbage, for keeping us entertained through all the tough times.

  268. 268.

    Hal

    GOP must realize they cannot rely on old white people for very much longer. If you can’t beat a black President in 2012 with 7.9 unemployment, than you are truly fucked.

  269. 269.

    Yutsano

    @opie_jeanne: I’m fine, I just got lost trying to find the place and my gas was getting low so I just headed on home. We have a couple meet-ups coming up so I’ll be sure to be around for those!

  270. 270.

    ThatLeftTurnInABQ

    @jze:
    Both JFK and BHO in their different ways use citizenship = rights + responsibilities as a core around which their sense of politics is built. One of the things which happened tonight which is little remarked or appreciated but which will loom larger over time is that the angry ghosts of the 1960s are finally be laid to rest, so perhaps it is appropriate that we heard echoes of JFK in Barack’s victory speech tonight.

  271. 271.

    Another Halocene Human

    @Mary G: We need to take control of elections away from the parties. California, Wisconsin have interesting models.

    PA, OH are case studies in what not to do.

  272. 272.

    Cacti

    @Hal:

    Oh well, you can still spend your time lecturing black people on hard work so they can be just like you and Herman Cain.

    In fairness to the Herminator, at least he never voluntarily joined a church that teaches black skin is “loathsome” and a curse from God.

  273. 273.

    MikeJ

    @Yutsano:

    We have a couple meet-ups coming up so I’ll be sure to be around for those!

    End of November don’t we have out of towners?

    First round is on you, deadbeat.

  274. 274.

    DPS

    @You Know Who:

    Perhaps it is time for one or more of the several sovereign states to take matters into their own hands

    Ooh, I know what to say to this one: “I wish a motherfucker would.”

    It seems to me that the lessons imparted by President Lincoln and Generals Grant and Sherman were never given a chance fully to take root, and that such a development could have a salutary remedial effect.

  275. 275.

    Elizabelle

    Scott Brown’s concession speech rebroadcast on C-Span now.

    Senator-Elect Professor Elizabeth Warren up next!

  276. 276.

    Elizabelle

    I think Scott Brown has a bright future, actually.

    He is a Republican that a lot of people can work with. Not as hardcore an ideological warrior as his fellow GOP Senate candidates who went down to defeat.

    Brown should have a brighter future than Paul Ryan.

    Not speaking, necessarily, of the hardcore GOP.

  277. 277.

    DPS

    By the way, everybody fantasizing about dick-waving from Nate Silver had better limit their expectations. I think the best you can hope for is some sober and restrained innuendo, a number of tables and charts, and a link or two.

    You will have to wave your dicks (or, if you do not have a dick handy at the moment, whatever waveable object is available) on his behalf.

    Sam Wang, on the other hand … well, let’s just say he’s not called Wang for nothing.

  278. 278.

    Another Halocene Human

    @You Know Who: Wow, Congresswoman Ros-Lehtinen, don’t you have something better to be doing, like thanking your donors for your victory and kissing that Castro picture you keep in your desk (because, let’s face it, part of your victory relies on ‘fear of a Communist America’) instead of screwing around on blogs?

    Tsk, tsk.

  279. 279.

    moew qwlfare

    I have no idea what my new handle means, but I love the sound of it. Sounds like kittehs giving the Black Panther salute while planning victory marches through our collective soul.

  280. 280.

    Another Halocene Human

    @WaterGirl: But I also think Citizens United had a major victory today – I think that’s why we lost so many of the house races today. They basically bought the U.S. house of representatives.

    Bingo. I understand they dropped something $1.5mill to get crazy teabagger Ted Yoho into FL-3, and I’m sure they’re the reason so many other races were close.

    This is going to be a slog, but we need to tip the scales here.

  282. 282.

    Cacti

    So, with recreational MJ legal in Washington and CO, is anyone else fantasizing Denver or Seattle as the new, American Amsterdam?

    They could make a killing from pot tourism.

  283. 283.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @You Know Who:

    That’s what scares me the most, “moew qwlfare”. I have no fucking idea what it is but it sounds absolutely scary!

    I won’t sleep a wink tonight.

  284. 284.

    DPS

    Elizabeth Warren is the first woman senator from MA. Did not realize that. I guess when Teddy Kennedy is senator for 500 years that limits things, but still I was surprised to learn that. Right on.

  285. 285.

    Another Halocene Human

    @trollhattan: Also, too, term limits have made our legislature a clown house and the term limit proposition was funded by the Kochs, decades ago.

    Term limits empower monied interests, full stop.

  287. 287.

    James E. Powell

    @You Know Who:

    First, I give you props for showing up. I didn’t think you would.

    Second, if your posts here over the last month or so reflect your actual beliefs, your passions, and you weren’t posting here because you were paid, or because you just enjoy irritating total strangers, then you must really feel bad right now. If you really believed that Romney was going to win, that all those things you claimed were true, then you have to feel like the whole universe just doesn’t like you. That’s a hard thing, man.

    Third, you really need to take a break. You have to face up to the fact that you were pretty much wrong about everything. Why not spend some time reflecting on why that is so, why you are so out of step with the rest of the country. And don’t post anything anywhere until you can come up with something new. All your stuff is so stale, so 1994.

  288. 288.

    Bobby Thomson

    Oh, fuck taco. Fuck him sideways with a rusty pitchfork. Fuckin’ dumbass racist who thought it was hilarious to call the president a mulatto and was wrong about everything.

  289. 289.

    different-church-lady

    @Chyron HR:

    I… I don’t understand. How could the polls have all been so badly right?

    My nomination for comment of the year.

  290. 290.

    different-church-lady

    @You Know Who: Considering how accurate your predictions of the election were, I view your comment as a harbinger of reduced deficits, a rocking economy and a rock solid military.

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