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Hot air and ill-informed banter
Imperialist aggressors must be defeated, or the whole world loses.
Jack be nimble, jack be quick, hurry up and indict this prick.
“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”
Republicans are the party of chaos and catastrophe.
Bark louder, little dog.
Our job is not to persuade republicans but to defeat them.
Make the republican party small enough to drown in a bathtub.
This really is a full service blog.
… pundit janitors mopping up after the GOP
When do the post office & the dmv weigh in on the wuhan virus?
We still have time to mess this up!
The republican caucus is already covering themselves with something, and it’s not glory.
Trump’s legal defense is going to be a dumpster fire inside a clown car on a derailing train.
Come on, media. you have one job. start doing it.
You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.
if you can’t see it, then you are useless in the fight to stop it.
No one could have predicted…
If you’re pissed about Biden’s speech, he was talking about you.
If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!
🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵
Everybody saw this coming.
The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.
It may be funny to you motherfucker, but it’s not funny to me.
Jerzy Russian
I lost track of how many “rape guys” there were. Was it three?
Legalize
I think there were 7 or 8?
gogol's wife
@Jerzy Russian:
Three if you count Ryan.
Robin G.
Funnily enough, if you tell women that getting pregnant is proof they weren’t raped, and tell college students buried in debt to borrow money from their parents, and call Latinos “illegals”, and make the Yellow Job-Stealing Menace a central part of your platform (a racist dogwhistle I think was seriously underexamined), and go out of your way to stop African-Americans from voting… turns out they’ll stand in line for six hours for the sheer pleasure of voting against you.
Strange, how that works.
General Stuck
This should be interesting to watch as it plays out in the wingnut trenches.
Iz our top wingnuts learning? Or just scared.
Comrade Jake
OT, but this epic takedown of Jennifer Rubin by Conor Friedersdorf over at the Atlantic is pretty entertaining.
Lol
@gogol’s wife:
Number three was John The Rape Thing Koster who was running in WA-01. His concession speech is a font of delicious tears.
Steve
That’s odd, I actually thought Alec Baldwin might have been advising the GOP on women’s issues.
schrodinger's cat
How are the emoprogs taking the news of the Obama victory. So far we have only concentrated on the wingnut meltdown.
Mark S.
It’s important for progressives to understand where pro-rape Republicans are coming from.
/amy sullivan
gogol's wife
@schrodinger’s cat:
Good question.
the Conster
Lots of conventional wisdom spewers this morning grappling with the dawning reality that the Goopers have a real base problem that supports these nutjobs, and if the media hacks want to keep propping up Republicans, their default inclination, the Republicans have to find a way to be less unmitigated repulsive neanderthal losers. Unfortunately for the Village, it’s not going to happen until the deliberate lying to and fleecing of the rubes stops. It’s an impossible situation for the Goopers to be in, and it’s going to be fun to watch them try to double their way down out of the dilemma.
maya
@General Stuck: I smell another Bush in 2016 and I can’t get it off my shoe.
Trakker
Ya’ know what really pisses me off? Tuesday, after winning re-election, the President tried to call the Republican Speaker of the House and the Republican Senate Minority Leader and both refused to take his call (asleep was the weak excuse).
Why this hasn’t gotten more attention I don’t know but it typifies what Obama has had to put up with from these Gynormous Fking A’holes (GFAs) on the right. No wonder the country flipped the GOP the mighty single digit salute.
Metrosexual Manichean Monster DougJ
@gogol’s wife:
I agree…good question.
Violet
This is so true. Someone asked me this on Wednesday, “Did the rape guy win?” and I had to respond, “Which one? The first one? The more recent one? The less well known ones?” Their jaw just kind of dropped.
merrinc
But, but, but…I read on Facebook that what Akin said was no worse than what Biden said! Of course, the genius who made that comment didn’t provide an example of Biden said. Whatevs. All of Team Rape – with the exception of the ever-odious Steve King – went down to defeat. Hell hath no fury, baby.
MikeBoyScout
Speaking of the rape guy, John the rape thing Koster brings us a delectable dose of Bitter Wingnut Tears covered Schadenfreude.
Shorter John the rape thing Koster:
No redistribution came my way so America has failed teabagging woman hating gay hating conservatism, so SOSHULEEZIM!
I’m so glad we kicked this piece of shit to the curb.
nhoj
Gerson is trolling DougJ with calls for Burkean waterboarding:
These changes call for another, more hopeful conservative tradition: that of Edmund Burke. He saw social change as a constant. The goal was to ease a nation’s way through change while retaining what is strongest in its traditions. Burke insisted that the present was better than the past and that the future could be better still if change were grounded in a society’s basic character. And he believed that politics had to suit a society’s real circumstances, not an idealized version of them
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/michael-gerson-renewing-the-republican-party/2012/11/08/4d3f6294-29d8-11e2-96b6-8e6a7524553f_story.html?hpid=z2
Smiling Mortician
@gogol’s wife: I think it’s four if you count Ryan. There’s Akin, Mourdock, and the “some girls rape easy” guy.
arguingwithsignposts
Just noticed that the NY Times big fancy interactive doesn’t include vote totals for the third-party folks.
Any place to get a good breakdown of how Gary J and Jill S did?
askew
Wow, Alec Baldwin hasn’t looked that good since Working Girl era.
I keep hearing that the GOP needs to tweak their message and be more inclusive to win races in the media. Alex Wagner was the first person I’ve heard in the media say it isn’t their message or their messenger, it’s their policies. She said that hauling a brown person on stage to deliver the same message isn’t going to do it. It’s too bad the rest of the media doesn’t get that.
Disco
Erick Erickson today:
“The GOP also has a chance in 2014 to again replace its own side with fresh faces in primaries.”
Oh please do this. Please pull another 2010 and nominate and elect the most bass-ackwards knuckle-draggers you can find. That’s a sure path to long-term majorities.
Frankensteinbeck
@Trakker:
I think we’ll see more of this. They’ve lost their bid to kick him out. We might see a couple of months of screaming craziness, but mostly we’ll see a lot less fanatical obstruction and a lot more whiny insults. Clinton era-ish. Everybody knew the impeachment wasn’t going anywhere. They were just being assholes.
schrodinger's cat
@gogol’s wife: I have a new cocktail recipe,
Epic Win = 1 part vodka + 2 tsp simple syrup + Juice of Half a lime+ a dash of salt+ 1 part wingnut tears + 1 part firebagger tears.
In case tears are unavailable substitute with seltzer.
jwb
@Trakker: And then Charlie Cook has apparently been running around complaining that Obama never talks to the GOP leadership. God, the meteor can’t get here fast enough.
NotMax
@Jerzy Russian
Maddow had a piece this week identifying 9, including Ryan.
arguingwithsignposts
@jwb:
Yes, he was on two different post-election analysis programs on CSPAN spewing that shit. Worse, he’s saying that Obama hasn’t talked to the avg. Dem congressperson in the past year either.
Mark S.
@Trakker:
We’re talking about Boehner. You try waking up after twelve martinis.
redshirt
So, where did the Overton Window move after this election? Yes, Dems rocked just about everywhere. But the Repukes got us talking about the legitimate rape and should employers allow their employees to use birth control.
Who really won?
Marc
@schrodinger’s cat:
They’re moving on to “Obama will sell us out in a Grand Bargain”. And “liberalism won; Obama is a minor thing”.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/07/obama-progressives-left-entitlements
Although you have to wade through a few thousand incoherent words to get to the betrayal part.
/start Greenwald bullshit
“Consider the very first controversial issue Obama is likely to manage, even before the glow of his victory dims, literally within the next couple of weeks. It is widely expected – including by liberals – that Obama intends (again) to pursue a so-called “Grand Bargain” with the GOP: a deficit- and debt-cutting agreement whereby the GOP agrees to some very modest tax increases on the rich in exchange for substantial cuts to entitlement programs such as social security and Medicare, the crown legislative jewels of American liberalism.
Indeed, Obama already sought in his first term to implement sizable cuts to those programs, but liberals were saved only by GOP recalcitrance to compromise on taxes. In light of their drubbing last night, they are likely to be marginally if not substantially more flexible, which means that such a deal is more possible than ever.”
/end Greenwald bullshit
The dead-enders at No Quarter are more bitter:
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/
Those tears sure are sweet!
NotMax
@ arguingwithsignpostsYup, there is.
Steve
@Smiling Mortician: Wasn’t there also a guy in Pennsylvania who couldn’t tell the difference between an out-of-wedlock pregnancy and rape, or something like that?
General Stuck
AND
Idiots.
JPL
Although the house districts are gerrymandered, I’m hoping that enough people benefit from health care in those districts that it becomes irrelevant.
My middle name is not pollyanna btw…
NotMax
Let me make that more legible.
@arguing with signposts
Here.
arguingwithsignposts
@Marc:
That showed up Wednesday in threads here.
@NotMax: Thanks. Apparently, all those glibertarians broke for Romney in the end. Imagine that.
schrodinger's cat
@Marc: I wonder what BJ’s own emoprog, the deBoer has to say about this? Has he been here to lecture us yet? I haven’t been online much the last 2 days.
ETA: Thanks for the update. Those tears are sweet indeed.
jibeaux
@MikeBoyScout: You’ve got to hand it to them on the gay marriage thing. If the courts decide for it, they’re activist judges thwarting the will of the people. If legislators decide for it, they’re activist legislators thwarting the will of the people. If the people decide for it, well….God’s gonna strike you down!
(S)He’s taking his time on Massachusetts, is all I’m saying.
Jerzy Russian
@Comrade Jake: Thanks for the laughs.
Schlemizel
I saw that Rove spent $37 million total on the Senate races they lost & a grand total of $1.3 million on the two the GOP won. Looks like the more he spent the worse he did
Villago Delenda Est
@General Stuck:
Oh, it’s the latter.
These twits do not know how to learn.
schrodinger's cat
Did anyone read Bobo this morning? Apparently Asian and Hispanic Americans like the government unlike the freedom loving WASP immigrants. What an idiot.
MikeBoyScout
@38 jibeaux:
The only thing I want to hand to bigoted assholes like John the rape thing Koster is their ass. That piece of shit soft peddled his teabagging hate filled philosophy this whole cycle hoping he could sneak in. F*ck him!
PsiFighter37
@Schlemizel: But he made money, which in all reality is what he cares about.
Grifters gonna GRIFT, bitches.
kindness
Actually this election cycle the response would have been easy:
None of them did.
I can savor that.
joes527
@Comrade Jake: I notice that Jennifer Rubin and George Will are full steam ahead. I don’t think they paused even a minute to ponder how laughably wrong their opinions before the election were. They wen straight to producing more laughably wrong opinions.
And they are getting published.
And read.
Villago Delenda Est
@askew:
They’re paid very well NOT to get it, and as long as they’re paid well, they will continue NOT to get it.
That, you can take to the bank.
Culture of Truth
Apparently not a hoax
Nov. 9 (Washington Post)- For the chairman and chief executive of Murray Energy, an Ohio-based coal company, the reelection of President Obama was no cause for celebration. It was a time for prayer – and layoffs.
Robert E. Murray read a prayer to a group of company staff members on the day after the election, lamenting the direction of the country and asking: “Lord, please forgive me and anyone with me in Murray Energy Corp. for the decisions that we are now forced to make to preserve the very existence of any of the enterprises that you have helped us build.”
On Wednesday, Murray laid off 54 people at The American Coal Co., one of his subsidiary companies, and 102 at Utah American Energy, blaming a “war on coal” by the administration of President Barack Obama.”
NotMax
@Culture of Truth
Someone needs to do a correlation of those laid off with those who didn’t show up on that stage with Romney, or who didn’t pony up the ‘suggested’ percentage of their salary to Murray’s choices.
some guy
we won’t have to wait long to see what Obama’s plan for the “Grand Bargain” is, as his first speech post-election (subject: the Grand Bargain) is scheduled for 1:50 pm today.
wonder how the Centrists around here will enjoy the taste of crow?
ericblair
@askew:
Charlie Pierce had a good summary in his blogpost a couple of days ago. Ignoring the layers of grifters on the Republicans, they’ve internally checkmated themselves and prevented any of the necessary changes. Any move out of the current xenophobic plutophilic reality-denying corner they’re in would get shot down in no time by one component of the gooper coalition or other, so the only path that doesn’t cause massive internal injury is to change nothing.
I was surprise at the extent of the delusion at the top of the Romney campaign, but based on the postmortem of the 08 financial crash I guess I shouldn’t have been. The bullshitters do believe their own bullshit, they do live in an echo chamber, and anything that reinforces their own bloated self-images is treated as gospel.
PsiFighter37
@Culture of Truth: Is the bunker stocked with canned goods and lots of glue the next stop for this clown? I sure hope so.
Also, too, I think it’s become quite apparent that a lot of rich white men born on third base hate the black man who hit a home run and surpassed them all.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@redshirt: My kids occasionally get me to talk about XBoxes, horses, and robots. And we never get one.
PsiFighter37
@some guy: It better be some equivalent of “I won, you lost. Take my deal or the filibuster’s history, bitches.” Or something. Just don’t offer the same shit sandwich from August 2011, please.
some guy
@PsiFighter37:
one would hope, especially after Boner and McConnell’s counter-offer was essentially Rmoney’s campaign plan.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Culture of Truth: He’s using Obama as an excuse. Coal is hurting because of natural gas, not Obama.
Roger Moore
@Robin G.:
Gee, you think it might have something to do with Asian Americans coming out even stronger for Obama than Hispanics? The Chinese immigrants I know have learned that the Republicans don’t like them because of who they are, and they have apparently decided to return the favor.
PsiFighter37
@some guy: He should tell them to drop an email in President-elect Romney’s comments and suggestion section on the website.
Chris T.
@Marc:
It is? Is it also widely expected that the moon will weep tears of honey? SOME SAY that Obama is a Mormon like Romney!
Villago Delenda Est
@Belafon (formerly anonevent):
Yeah, it’s an attempt to find someone in an elected office to blame for a structural problem with the market that coal outfits are facing.
We saw this in the NW with the spotted owl controversy. The wood products industry blamed environmentalist for the loss of jobs, when automation was actually driving that train. Far more palatable for the blue collar types to blame DFHs for their woes than their backstabbing employers eliminating their jobs purely on economic, not environmental, grounds.
This is a good example of a failure to seek information to use your (non-existent) critical thinking skills to determine what is really going on.
jibeaux
@MikeBoyScout: Oh, I mean hand it to them in the same way Clinton congratulated Ryan on his brass.
PsiFighter37
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): No shit, but it’s easier to blame the ni-CLANG than to figure out how to make coal a more attractive energy source…which should be indicative of how pie-in-the-sky the ‘clean coal’ crap is.
some guy
that’s no way to talk about Obama supporters pretending Obama didn’t announce reducing the deficit was his top priority.
Chris T.
@PsiFighter37: Someone should start a mock campaign for “White Coal: The Clean Alternative!” It’s that black coal that’s bad, you know!
Roger Moore
@Schlemizel:
I think you need to look at it a bit more carefully than the total money spent to figure that kind of thing out. You really need to look at how the race looked before they started spending money on it. If I were in Rove’s position, I might spend only token amounts on races that looked like sure things, more on close races, and the most on tough races that could give my party a real advantage. It’s a sensible way to spend, but it will look very inefficient if the electorate is generally against you. Similarly, it would be interesting to see how much was spent on the other side in those same races.
Trakker
@redshirt:
Great question. My feeling is that the Overton window moved farther left in this election than it did in 2008 or anytime since 1994.
I FELT the window move Wednesday morning as I looked at the results, but the main reason it has moved left is that the right no longer has any reliable hot-button issues to fire up their base anymore – except in the reddest of states. Really, this was a HUGE election. Even the NRA lost big time!
FormerSwingVoter
The “women’s issue” that made such a difference for us in this election was the belief that rape is a bad thing. I find it remarkable that this belief is held by only one of our two major political parties, but there you go.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Smiling Mortician:
Then there was the Repub whose daughter had an out of wedlock pregnancy that wasn’t aborted who said that it was just like rape.
These are some really fucked up dudes.
Anna in PDX
@Steve: I know, right? Maybe he had to take an anger management class or something, and learned to be a better person. It can happen… to non-right-wingers.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Marc:
GG is a hack whose fifteen minutes of fame expired long ago. He’s a product whose shelf life expired so long ago that there’s only fossil evidence that he even existed. GG should stick to what he knows best now…
his local Brazilian news.
Emma
@redshirt: We did. All the “rape pols” were defeated and we got a nice bump in the senate and Obamacare (which guaranteed those contraceptives) was, by extension, upheld.
Talking about it and then getting your arse handed to you? Perfect!
Marc
@some guy:
And if you’re wrong will you change your mind?
(Silly question, I know. But hope is in the air now)…
Anna in PDX
@Anna in PDX: I noticed after posting this rather nasty comment how it did not take into account our blog host. Sorry! Actually at least two conservatives CAN be taught – it happened with John Cole and to a lesser extent with Charles Johnson, but they are extremely rare exceptions! And I appreciate them very much.
MCA1
@PsiFighter37: That’s certainly my preference, too. The leverage has shifted utterly here. Great article by Jon Chait a few weeks ago on this in NY Mag laid out in great detail how, if Obama does nothing and refuses to accept any Republican proposal, the world becomes something closer to a liberal paradise on January 1, because the Bush tax cuts expire and the President was shrewd enough to keep control with himself over what spending gets cut (= defense) so he can protect whatever he wants. That’s balanced against the obvious point that if we actually let all the pre-scheduled things happen on 1/1, it’s basically austerity and we go back into recession, but again there are things the executive and Senate could do to mitigate all that. But, regardless, the longer a deal isn’t reached, the more the entire defense industry’s going to be lined up outside Boehner’s house screaming at him.
In short, the President’s holding the cards in this game, and it’s possible he intentionally eleventh-dimensional chess style set this up long ago (when he finally got over the delusion that these people could be worked with), specifically to break the stranglehold Grover Norquist has had on the GOP. That has to be forced through a structural trap, because there was no reasoning the Republicans to change, and this may be it.
I’m with you, and would like him to come out and give a nice political capital/mandate, bitches/obstructionism lost you the election lecture today, and then lay out an opening position that’s well left of where we were a year ago. We’ll see, though. I still have a nagging fear Bowles-Simpson’s going to get far more legitimacy than it should.
WaterGirl
Things you thought you’d never have to tell someone because it’s so obvious:
If the president of the united states calls, wake me up if I’m asleep.
Geez these fuckers are stupid.
Oh, and Doug, thanks so much for this picture. I glanced at BJ as I walked into the kitchen to make my lunch, and I can’t stop laughing. Seriously, every time it pops into my head I laugh out loud. I think this photo may have finally brought home to me that we really did win this one. I am now truly relaxed for the first time in months.
gwangung
You mean Asian Americans, whose immigrants are almost always mom and pop entrepreneurs? And work two and three jobs (like, um, a lot of other non-WASP Americans)? And emphasize getting education to get ahead in the world?
Yup.
Lancelot Link
I’m surprised there was so little in the news regarding the convenient death of Romney’s serial-rapist friend.
Liberal media, indeed.