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You are here: Home / Gun Issues / Gun nuts / The Other, Other Derperation

The Other, Other Derperation

by Zandar|  January 17, 20133:54 pm| 118 Comments

This post is in: Gun nuts, Flash Mob of Hate, The Dirty F-ing Hippies Were Right, Very Serious People, Wingnut Event Horizon

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And speaking of POTUS trolling the hell out of the right this week, apparently people sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because morons too stupid to know they are morons stand ready to announce to the world what their secret villainous master strokes are to pretty much everyone (and people in law enforcement) who then say “Hey, thanks for the tip.  I’ll clear my afternoon schedule and we’ll chat.” (h/t Roy Edroso)

Were an angry group of disenfranchised citizens to target in a strategic manner the substations leading to a city or geographic area—say, Albany, for example—they could put the area in the dark for as long as it took to bring the substations back online. Were they committed enough, and spread their attacks out over a wide enough area, perhaps mixing in a few tens of dozens of the residential transformers found every few hundred yards along city streets, they could overwhelm the utility companies ability to repair the damage being caused or law enforcement’s ability to stop them…

How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted area? Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being.

Progressives seeking to undermine the Constitution seem to think they hold all the cards. I would warn them that they are not remotely prepared for what will happen if they attempt to cross Constitutional boundaries and natural rights.

It could be a cold, dark winter.

Tread carefully.

It was at this point the wingers stumbled onto The Other, Other Operation…

Idiots.

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  1. 1.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    The wingtards who talk about this sort of shit don’t seem to understand that they will reap the whirlwind of public anger on this.

  2. 2.

    Poopyman

    January 17, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    Frankly, I didn’t believe Gun Counter Gomer was really that stupid. Clearly I’m wrong, and I hope you all accept my apology. I won’t make the same mistake twice.

  3. 3.

    ? Martin

    January 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    I just hope the wingnuts don’t figure out that the 2nd Amendment protects their right to strap on a suicide vest.

  4. 4.

    Chris

    January 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    I’ve said this before: whenever wingnuts come to the conclusion that their ideology is well and truly fucked in the political arena, you’ll have a binge of terrorist attacks that’ll last a few years as they lash out the only way they know how. It’s no coincidence that the big spikes in militia recruitment came after 1992 and 2008.

  5. 5.

    Another Halocene Human

    January 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted area? Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being.

    Dumb fuckers. Just because you’re a stupid dumbshit and lazy to boot doesn’t mean everyone is. People cope, come up with backup strategies, and move on. It’s rare that any human action (other than a full-out war) wreaks the devastation of a natural disaster. Fooking forget about it.

    All I can think about right now is that time when LA’s bus drivers went on strike and the strike went on a little too long and so-called gypsy cabs replaced the transit system in a few days.

    (A century ago, cities like New York created the medallion system and exclusive transit franchises to reduce what they considered to be the negative externalities of unregulated jitneys. The free market will provide, in a big enough city, but it comes at a price. In a smaller city… ugh, forgetaboutit. Hope you like walking.)

  6. 6.

    Gravenstone

    January 17, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    I was half expecting them to conclude with, “And what if we were to prevent utility workers from affecting repairs by holding the substations under cover of sniper fire?”

  7. 7.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    January 17, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    Those people are so willfully and comprehensively stupid that their attempts to sabotage the grid would result in little more than a bunch of fried idiots.

  8. 8.

    General Stuck

    January 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    You know your shit is all fucked up when Paul Ryan tells you that and you’re a republican.

    Ryan hinted that he’ll use his budget resolution this spring to restate the GOP’s long-term goal of smaller government in the future, but he emphasized that the GOP must set it sights lower right now.

    “We will present the conference with a budget and then bring it to the floor, we discussed some of our aspirations for what that budget hopes to achieve,” he told reporters. “So that’s from the budget perspective. But as far as what we’re going to achieve with respect to sequester, and debt limit, and CR, we’re just trying to facilitate a conversation.”

    So now you just want to talk about shit, instead of threatening to destroy the motherfucking world. I say “stfu with that shit, then maybe we can have a chat over tea and crumpets”

    Fucking wingnuts, children of the damned.

  9. 9.

    NotMax

    January 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Not quite totally on topic, but this is somewhat bizarre:

    A Schofield Barracks soldier was shot and killed by police early Tuesday after he repeatedly rammed multiple police cars with his truck in Waikiki. Several police officers were injured in the incident.

    The 25th Infantry Division said in a statement that it’s cooperating with the Honolulu Police Department as officers investigate. The unit won’t release the soldier’s name until his family members are notified.  Source

  10. 10.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    January 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    I believe the correct term is terrorism.

  11. 11.

    Mudge

    January 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    There is a small but finite possibility that such a terrorist cell would have been infiltrated by the FBI. They appear to be drawing more attention to themselves. I have no problem with each member of such a group being paranoid about every other member.

  12. 12.

    Tonal Crow

    January 17, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    Bend over terrorists, because here comes the FBI (that you previously have lavished such extensive praise upon).

    Also too, terrorists, remember Gitmo that you didn’t want closed? And the President (who declares enemy combatants) is still black.

  13. 13.

    Xenos

    January 17, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Progressives seeking to undermine the Constitution seem to think they hold all the cards. I would warn them that they are not remotely prepared for what will happen if they attempt to cross Constitutional boundaries and natural rights (emphasis added).

    O Lord, fuck these people so very much…

  14. 14.

    Comrade Dread

    January 17, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Were an angry group of disenfranchised citizens to target in a strategic manner the substations leading to a city or geographic area—say, Albany, for example—they could put the area in the dark for as long as it took to bring the substations back online. Were they committed enough, and spread their attacks out over a wide enough area, perhaps mixing in a few tens of dozens of the residential transformers found every few hundred yards along city streets, they could overwhelm the utility companies ability to repair the damage being caused or law enforcement’s ability to stop them…

    How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted area? Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being.

    Progressives seeking to undermine the Constitution seem to think they hold all the cards. I would warn them that they are not remotely prepared for what will happen if they attempt to cross Constitutional boundaries and natural rights.

    It could be a cold, dark winter.

    Tread carefully.

    Sounds like a terrorist threat to me.

    Please remain where you are, sir. A helpful CIA representative will be with you shortly to walk you through the various methods you wholeheartedly approved for the government to use against terrorists.

    Remember to confess quickly! If you hold out too long you could jeopardize your credit rating.

  15. 15.

    ? Martin

    January 17, 2013 at 4:09 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    The wingtards who talk about this sort of shit don’t seem to understand that they will reap the whirlwind of public anger on this.

    Anger? Maybe from the shortsighted ones, but most of the country will come to realize that after the inevitable collapse of the US economy, mass burials, formation of a new government, rebuilding of cities, and reconstruction of lives it’ll have all been worthwhile as you can once again buy a 12 round magazine rather than just those shitty 8 round ones. Freedom!

  16. 16.

    Chris

    January 17, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent):

    I believe the correct term is terrorism another vile campaign by the Department of Homeland Security to discredit brave American patriots! FTFY and WOLVERINES!
    /wingnut

  17. 17.

    Frankensteinbeck

    January 17, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    And how long, dear moron, before your guerrilla fighters are met at the substation by armed police, FBI, or the national guard because your pattern is really god damn obvious? I know, i know, there’s no point describing the flaws of a wet dream.

  18. 18.

    Derelict

    January 17, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Yep, sounds like a terrorist threat against vital parts of our national infrastructure. That it’s specifically intended to make civilians suffer in order to make a political point makes it all the more special.

    What is it about rightwingers that makes them think the way to get people to love you is to hurt them as much as possible?

  19. 19.

    pat

    January 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    Damn, maybe they really ought to go live out their dreams in Syria or Somalia. I hear there’s a lot of that shit going on over there.

  20. 20.

    ? Martin

    January 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    @Derelict:

    What is it about rightwingers that makes them think the way to get people to love you is to hurt them as much as possible?

    Well, it is for their own good, you know. They would realize that if they really took the time to think about what was at stake here.

  21. 21.

    SatanicPanic

    January 17, 2013 at 4:16 pm

    He’s probably hoping the FBI will show up to question him so he can pretend he’s a brave freedom fighter.

  22. 22.

    Chris

    January 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    Hope they’re literally wearing brown shirts! Though if they’re not, we’ll just have to report as if they were.
    /Glenn Reynolds

  23. 23.

    D. Mason

    January 17, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    I’ve seen something pretty similar to whats described when tornadoes ripped through the area leaving us over 70% out of power through the region (north Alabama) for about a week. Essential functions were coming back online the first day after the disaster because of a little thing called generators. The stupid runs deep with this asshole.

  24. 24.

    Feudalism Now!

    January 17, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Most peopl around Albany would steal the dumfbucks guns and burn them for heat. Albany is pretty unflappable. Ice storm before Columbus Day weekend? No problem. They used to close State Street next to the capitol and truck in snow for people to ski down it. There is no stupid like upstate stupid I guess.

  25. 25.

    scav

    January 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being.

    So they saying they don’t need their Holy 2nd Amendment sticks™! to protect them against the ebil ebil government? Nah, no doubt they’re just going for the easier non-moving targets. When the BBC News Quiz remarked that faced with a loaf of unsliced bread, Americans would shoot it into smaller pieces, I think they were on to something.

  26. 26.

    celticdragonchick

    January 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    This sort of shit can actually be really hard to combat.

    How long did ELF get away with burning large ski resorts and Humveee dealerships?

  27. 27.

    General Stuck

    January 17, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    If it is going to happen, it will need to be with multiple domestic terrorists attacks, and come from some portion of the ruling class and authorities loyal to them. Something akin to a Jericho scenario, with a number of nuke explosions in key cities, to break down civil order enough to coup the country, or at least split it into feudal camps and a cage match for who will rule the roost.

    Wingnuts bought more guns that are needed to arm both the Chinese military and Indian one combined. Just in the last month of 2012, 2.7 million firearms purchased. If you want to go for an assault weapons ban, and make all of them illegal to be confiscated, then there could be bigger problems than random nuts killing some people. Food for thought, anyways.

    But no reason to get excited, the thief he kindly spoke.

  28. 28.

    Comrade Dread

    January 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Which is really amazing. What do they think the response of the cops, FBI, CIA, NSA, and the government is going to be in response to a major act of domestic terrorism?

    They’re not going to side with or negotiate with terrorists.

  29. 29.

    Sterling

    January 17, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    So they’re threatening to do what a winter storm will do to us here in New England anyway? Frightening.

    Also, the gun nuts in my neighborhood will be thrilled when their power is out during the playoffs.

  30. 30.

    celticdragonchick

    January 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    @D. Mason:

    The stupid runs deep with this asshole.

    Dedicated assholes can still make things really expensive and difficult for everybody else around them, depending on how obtuse they want to be.

  31. 31.

    Richard W. Crews

    January 17, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    I think the anti-government 2nd Amendment justifications are nonsense. Antiquated nonsense. Fudgin” Branch Dividian Waconess. See how it ends. There ain’t a wacko “patriot” in suburbia that has a wife who will live through the toilet not working, much less all dreams held in 401-Ks and equities when your checking account is closed . You think there’s someone to shoot at? Tip the couch over in front of the picture window and … ? March on ??? You and what army?:

    Get real? They will drone your posterior while you’re sneaking over to the neighbors for a bucket of water while everything you ever planned on dissolves and the world never even notices.

    You tell me what the Federal Government of the United States Of America has to do that will ever get an organized group of NOT-CRAZY people ( I’ve been to Tea Party big events) to act in an armed manner.
    Then, after you finally stretch out all logic and history, whatever you put up, I will measure against school massacres.

  32. 32.

    RSA

    January 17, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    Were I to begin writing a sentence beginning with a subjunctive clause that relied on a subject-verb inversion, I would realize it made me look like a complete tool.

  33. 33.

    Chris

    January 17, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    That moment when they finally find out what their ragtag Wolverine Founding-Father-approved Militia of Last Line of Defense for FREEDOM is worth against the trained professionals.

  34. 34.

    jibeaux

    January 17, 2013 at 4:24 pm

    Somewhat off topic, the funny or die NRA parody is good….

  35. 35.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    January 17, 2013 at 4:25 pm

    @? Martin:

    I’ve got a few imploding models which I’ll sell for a song.

  36. 36.

    SatanicPanic

    January 17, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    @Chris: If all else fails he can always point to the postman

  37. 37.

    FlipYrWhig

    January 17, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Seems to be inspired by V for Vendetta. K for Konspeerasee!

  38. 38.

    celticdragonchick

    January 17, 2013 at 4:28 pm

    @Richard W. Crews:

    Get real? They will drone your posterior while you’re sneaking over to the neighbors for a bucket of water while everything you ever planned on dissolves and the world never even notices.

    Why the fuck do people here keep joking about using drones and tanks in the United States?

    Do you even remotely realize that if things are bad enough to use battlefield military hardware of that sort in a domestic law enforcement operation…then:

    1. Posse Comitatus is gone and…

    2. You can fucking forget about most of our rapidly dwindling civil rights as they are obliterated under the pretense of fighting a domestic terrorist insurgency.

    3. Government heavy handed over-reactions to insurgents almost always play to the propaganda benefit of the insurgents and serve to recruit more and more radicalized members who may not have been willing to participate before.

    I find nothing humorous about this at all.

  39. 39.

    Eric U.

    January 17, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    I think my kids would smother me in my sleep if I were to knock out the power on my block. Reddit must be surfed obsessively, and that ain’t going to happen if the power isn’t on.

  40. 40.

    Maude

    January 17, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    @Mudge:
    They could stand off and face each other and begin the attack.
    They don’t sound smart enough to take out a lamp, never mind a sub station.

  41. 41.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    @Sterling:

    So they’re threatening to do what a winter storm will do to us here in New England anyway? Frightening.

    See, the part that they haven’t told you libtards about is that they’re going to go door-to-door, and put a cup of sugar into the gas tank of EVERY DAMN PORTABLE GENERATOR that those candy-ass New Englanders have, for use in case of a major outage.

    “Cry havoc, and let slip the dumbfucks of War!”

  42. 42.

    Obliterati

    January 17, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    Oh whatever. I’m as worried about a wingnut freedurm war as I am about an alien invasion.

    Gun nuts are too old, too fat, too lazy and too stupid to pull off any of their bullshit threats. And if they did manage to lever themselves off the couch long enough to stumblefuck their way to an act of domestic terrorism, the Police State would crush them flat.

    Our worry these days is lonewolf nutjobs suffering a psychotic break, not organized guerrilla campaigns.

  43. 43.

    Ash Can

    January 17, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted area?

    Gee, I dunno. Why don’t we go ask New York Fucking City, just last month?

    It’s a wonder these people haven’t all killed themselves by now from forgetting how to swallow and choking to death.

  44. 44.

    MikeJ

    January 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    @celticdragonchick: Operation Backfire got 18 of them. Of course one fled to Syria, so he’s got other problems now.

  45. 45.

    FormerSwingVoter

    January 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    I love how it never actually occurs to this guy that, if folks were to repeatedly attack vital infrastructure, that law enforcement might start looking for said folks.

    Also: “disenfranchised citizens”? I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means….

  46. 46.

    Baud

    January 17, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    If terrorists took out Albany’s electrical grid, we’d have no choice but to invade Iraq.

  47. 47.

    NonyNony

    January 17, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    @celticdragonchick:

    I am actually worried about real honest to Grod militia idiots.

    I’m not actually worried about Bob Owens because, well, Bob Owens.

    Of course I also don’t joke about drones or unleashing the military on these clowns either. Frankly these guys all get taken out by good police work (which is how most terrorists get taken down) and because most American citizens are good people and don’t really want to have people who think that the tactics used by the PLO or the IRA are things that we need to have in this country as neighbors. One nice thing about our system of elections is that even with the Kenyan Usurper in office, there’s always another election coming. So as long as you’re not hurting too badly there’s no real reason to resort to violence in the streets when you might win the next election. And as long as that dynamic continues, there’s more incentive to call the cops on your terrorist sympathizing neighbor than there is to join him.

  48. 48.

    Dean Martin

    January 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    Always such elaborate conspiracies and fears!
    If terrorists wanted to cause havoc or huge expenditures, all they’d have to do is start many simultaneous forest fires.
    Little to no money needed and no need to stick around where they could get caught as snipers.

  49. 49.

    ? Martin

    January 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    @Chris:

    That moment when they finally find out what their ragtag Wolverine Founding-Father-approved Militia of Last Line of Defense for FREEDOM is worth against the trained professionals.

    It is interesting that surrounding the plans against the confiscation of guns to prevent a citizen uprising against a tyrannical government, not only do the wingnuts not raise the option of using guns, or seem concerned that the government would use the guns against them.

    Honestly, if anyone steps forward and proclaims that the government is being unlawful here, then tell them to STFU and grab their gun and prove the very point they keep screeching about. Stop whining and act, and if you don’t truly believe in the cause, then shut up and face reality.

  50. 50.

    Forum Transmitted Disease

    January 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    I would pay good money to see this. Those “residential transformers” run 13kV cable as thick as my arm, what’s Wingnuts McKnuckledragger going to do, cut the lock and toss in some iron filings to take it out?

    Which it would, but…have you ever seen an exploding transformer? Mr. McKnuckledragger will be spending the rest of his short life in a burn ward screaming what’s left of his lungs out. Ain’t enough morphine to help when 90% of your skin’s been arc-flashed off.

  51. 51.

    SatanicPanic

    January 17, 2013 at 4:40 pm

    @celticdragonchick: The joke isn’t “drones= funny” the joke is “wingnut fantasisies= unrealistic”

  52. 52.

    Baud

    January 17, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    @Forum Transmitted Disease:

    Hold my beer and watch this.

  53. 53.

    melissa

    January 17, 2013 at 4:42 pm

    Send in the National Guard. That’s the well regulated militia.

  54. 54.

    Bubblegum Tate

    January 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    @Comrade Dread:

    Please remain where you are, sir. A helpful CIA representative will be with you shortly to walk you through the various methods you wholeheartedly approved for the government to use against terrorists.

    At which point Gun Counter Gomer will squeal like a stuck pig that the EVIL LIBRUL GUBMINT is trying to SILENCE him just because he’s a CONSERVATIVE!

  55. 55.

    Ted & Hellen

    January 17, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    And speaking of POTUS trolling the hell out of the right this week,

    I thought trolling was a bad thing.

    Confuzed.

    Sadness.

  56. 56.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Why do I have the feeling that approx 1/3rd of all these so called “wingnuts” are in reality undercover FBI agents?

  57. 57.

    johnny aquitard

    January 17, 2013 at 4:45 pm

    Were an angry group of disenfranchised citizens

    Disenfranchised citizens? Like all those blah and hispanic people in Florida and Pennsylvania and Ohio and Arizona who were actually denied their right to vote because of Republicans?

    Oh wait, he’s talking about a bunch of racist white people who voted but their guy lost the election. So losing an election and then having the legitimate government duly elected by the majority propose legislation to protect school children is so totes disenfranchisement.

    Fuck these pieces of excrement. They’re nothing more than terrorists.

  58. 58.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    @? Martin:

    I just hope the wingnuts don’t figure out that the 2nd Amendment protects their right to strap on a suicide vest.

    Actually, one of Biden’s recommendations, which the President decided not to propose, was:

    Executive Order banning the sale and use of suicide vests in remote areas.

    Which brings up the existential question: if a wingtard blows his own ass up in the middle of the forest, and there’s no one around to hear, will anyone care? (Outside of the Forest Rangers in a theoretical cleanup crew, that is.)

  59. 59.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 4:46 pm

    Does anyone else remember when the Eastern Power Grid went down a few years back?
    I seem to recall neighbors hanging out with each other again, reconnecting with humanity and being human beings.
    I’m sure there were short tempers and irritation but it seemed like people were mainly all, “Hey, shit happens. Let’s walk over and talk to Johnny for a while.”

  60. 60.

    Baud

    January 17, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I seem to recall neighbors hanging out with each other again, reconnecting with humanity and being human beings.

    That is terrifying.

  61. 61.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    I love that in the comments at Bob Owens’ site there’s a moran talking about OPSEC.
    Yeah, hush hush and need to know and keep it close that we’re all totes going to blow up utilities.

  62. 62.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    January 17, 2013 at 4:49 pm

    @Ted & Hellen: There’s lots of good trolling. You, on the other hand, do it completely wrong.

  63. 63.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): Well, let’s hear your riddle then.

  64. 64.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    January 17, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    If someone of color had made the statements quoted above they’d already be in Gitmo. I wonder what action(s) these people will have to take before they wind up on a watch list.

  65. 65.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    January 17, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    Hopefully, every time a transformer goes out in this guy’s area he gets a visit from the FBI.

  66. 66.

    Zifnab25

    January 17, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    If someone of color had made the statements quoted above they’d already be in Gitmo.

    If someone of color had made the statement, s/he’d (a) never actually get on TV because who gives a fuck what colored people think, amirite? or (b) have a FAUX News lynch mob with pitchforks and torches on their doorstep inside ten minutes.

  67. 67.

    trollhattan

    January 17, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    Wow, I remember when the biggest threat to our free dumbs was hippies putting L.D.S. into our drinking water reservoirs. Who will deliver us from these Moronis?

  68. 68.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    January 17, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    @SFAW:

    Which brings up the existential question: if a wingtard blows his own ass up in the middle of the forest, and there’s no one around to hear, will anyone care? (Outside of the Forest Rangers in a theoretical cleanup crew, that is.)

    It could be argued that serving as fertilizer is the noblest thing to which they could aspire.

  69. 69.

    GregB

    January 17, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    The more shrill the asshole right gets the more they begin to sound like a Bin Laden or Zawahiri video warning of doom and full of threats of violence and apocalyptic bluster.

    Please feel free to throw this analogy at anyone who this describes. It tends to shock them, if they are the kind that can be shocked.

  70. 70.

    jp7505a

    January 17, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    Since these folks are so anxious to use their 2nd amendment toys, maybe they should head off to Fla. and join the great python hunt. Seems the Everglades are being overrun by Burmese pythons and the stae is running a month long contest for hunters to come in and kill as many as they can.

    After a week the mighty hunters have bagged a total of 19. The aricle didn’t say how many hunters have been bagged by the gators. Maybe the disenfranchised citizens will do better since they are such experts with all forms of firearms.

  71. 71.

    NonyNony

    January 17, 2013 at 4:55 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Does anyone else remember when the Eastern Power Grid went down a few years back?

    Yes. A windstorm did exactly what Owens thinks would be the downfall of the US government. And life was fine.

    Honestly I don’t know what these idiots are thinking. We really are not as weak and selfish as they think we are in the USA. We can handle a few infrastructure outages over a short period of time. And it would be short because terrorists doing this kind of crap would be caught in short order – probably before they even start. There’s a reason why this kind of crap doesn’t actually happen.

    Where we lose our collective shit is when people get killed. Knock out the power during the winter when old people and kids freeze to death and that would actually maybe drive us insane as a country. Maybe not 9/11 insane, but up there. Unfortunately for the wingnut idiots, we won’t be getting mad at the people they would want us mad at. See also McVeigh, Timothy for the kind of angry you unleash when you kill people through terrorist acts in this country.

    So they fantasize about infrastructure attacks that don’t kill anyone and don’t do any property damage. That’s better than the alternative, I suppose.

  72. 72.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    It could be argued that serving as fertilizer is the noblest thing to which they could aspire.

    Not to pick nits, but …

    There’s lots of nobler stuff to which they could aspire; fertilizer is probably the noblest thing they could ATTAIN.

  73. 73.

    hoodie

    January 17, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    So, do these guys repair to the warmth of their solar-powered bunkers to provide blog updates on the revolution after completing this mission? I’m sure all the guys they inspired by knocking out their flat screens and fridges during the NFL playoffs will be waiting with bated breath to see the next phase of the plan, if only to know where to go with their baseball bats to beat the everloving fuck out of these morons.

  74. 74.

    David Hunt

    January 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    @FormerSwingVoter:

    Also: “disenfranchised citizens”? I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means….

    What do you mean? He’s using it correctly. It’s right here in my wingnut dictionary. Disenfranchised citizen: A white male Republican whose most radical political views have not yet been legislated into reality to create a society that functions in the exact fashion that he believes to be proper.

  75. 75.

    ? Martin

    January 17, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    Guns don’t kill people, exposure to Barney kills people, yo.

    Son of ‘Barney’ co-creator arrested on attempted murder charge.

  76. 76.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    @jp7505a: It’s a real live Whacking Day!
    Where’s Barry White when we really need him?

  77. 77.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    @NonyNony:

    I think McVeigh is actually a hero to a large number of them. And I wish I had written that as a joke.

  78. 78.

    Omnes Omnibus

    January 17, 2013 at 5:00 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): There is trolling and there is being a troll. There is a difference.

  79. 79.

    GregB

    January 17, 2013 at 5:01 pm

    The modern day political right is suffering from severe brain damage via lead poisoning from their gun ranges.

    I am convinced.

    I just learned that the GOP is currently plotting their efforts at appealing to minority voters at a plantation in Virginia.

  80. 80.

    hitchhiker

    January 17, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    Progressives seeking to undermine the Constitution seem to think they hold all the cards.

    That’s what this is really about. We’re smug. We’re so smug that we force them to lose their minds and spend their days and nights fantasizing about making us suffer.

    Bullies really hate it when they lose, don’t they? These people are scary, but not for the reason they think.

  81. 81.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Wow, I remember when the biggest threat to our free dumbs was hippies putting L.D.S. into our drinking water reservoirs

    Good God! They were going to stick Mormons into our water supply? With Magic Underwear or without?

  82. 82.

    dan

    January 17, 2013 at 5:04 pm

    The comments over there are chock full of nutty-ass shit (sounds like Crohn’s disease). All kinds of dark arts threatening kinds of stuff. Really actionable stuff, if the FBI wanted to go hard at them.

    My only comment was “I think you all should do whatever you think is right. Please proceed.”

    The comment went into moderation hours ago and was never posted. But if I said “start fires in subway tunnels”, they’d have posted that. Matter of fact … I’ll be right back …

  83. 83.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 17, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    @FormerSwingVoter:

    Also: “disenfranchised citizens”? I don’t think that word means what he thinks it means….

    Well, their candidate did not win, obviously. That means they never had a vote at all. Unless their candidates win every position, unless the propositions they favor win, and the ones they oppose lose, they’re disenfranchised.

    These sorry ass motherfuckers do not know how good they have it.

  84. 84.

    catclub

    January 17, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    In 1933 Germany had 47% unemployment and decided to go for Hitler. We had 25% unemployment then and did not go that route.

    Now, Greece and Spain have 25% unemployment and show no signs of breakdown of civil society. I blame the safety net programs. They seem to be either muddling through or getting a little better.

    Greece has has more violence than Spain and has a worse safety net.

    The US has 8% unemployment. How many revolutions against the incumbent government have come under such conditions?
    We also have a better safety net than in 1933.

  85. 85.

    Tonal Crow

    January 17, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    @trollhattan:

    Wow, I remember when the biggest threat to our free dumbs was hippies putting L.D.S. into our drinking water reservoirs. Who will deliver us from these Moronis?

    Dunno, but hippies dealing in L.D.S. are doing it wrong.

  86. 86.

    Comrade Dread

    January 17, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    @catclub: Greece is getting worse and the nationalist fascists are gaining power.

    Yay for austerity!

  87. 87.

    Haydnseek

    January 17, 2013 at 5:09 pm

    @Chris Brown shirts? Hell, as soon as Homeland Security and the ATF agents show up, they’ll be wearing brown pants.

  88. 88.

    Emma

    January 17, 2013 at 5:12 pm

    @? Martin: I don’t think so. When it hits the fan and people start seeing food shortages and no electricity and no gas and things blowing up, they’ll scream for the federal government to fix it. Americans love to grumble and to vote the bastards out, but missing American Idol and not being able to visit Disney World? Please. They’ll ask the president to fly a few drones.

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    January 17, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Mitt underwear AND sister wives. [shudder]

  90. 90.

    Jim

    January 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    Does Confederate Bob realize he’s making the claim that Patriots don’t need extended magazines, or AR-15s, or even pistols, to stage effective attacks on the government?

  91. 91.

    pattyp

    January 17, 2013 at 5:19 pm

    Living in Florida, I’ve been through half a dozen such situations, caused by major hurricanes. We cope by sweating a lot, swearing a lot, taking cold showers and eating canned pre-cooked food. This guy is a pansy if he thinks that represents the collapse of civilization.

  92. 92.

    dan

    January 17, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    @Emma: True. It’s ironic that their fiendish plan would result in the government taking more of a role in people’s lives.

    I can see this idiot Bob Owen as Baldrick. “I have a cunning plan.”

  93. 93.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    @Emma:

    When it hits the fan and people start seeing food shortages and no electricity and no gas and things blowing up, they’ll scream for the federal government to fix it.

    This is the kind of sad yet amusing part. The idiots think depredation will drive the Patriot Response ™ in people but what it would actually do is make people irritated with government.

  94. 94.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 5:26 pm

    @Jim: Confederate Bob is actually confusing attacks on the “government” with attacks on the service and quality of life of all his neighbors (all the wingnut neighbors, whatever).
    people are going to join an uprising that has denied them power, heat, access to clean water, food on grocery store shelves, etc? In some kind of revolt against a govt that can’t protect a power substation?

  95. 95.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    January 17, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: You are correct. T&H, got that?

  96. 96.

    scav

    January 17, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    Aren’t those examples of infrastructure actually owned by companies so they’ll likely get fussy too? Destroying the private property of Corporate Persons. Where does that fit into The Free Market Bible™?

  97. 97.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    January 17, 2013 at 5:40 pm

    @RSA:

    Oh you liberal elitist. :p

  98. 98.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    January 17, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    @RSA:

    Oh you liberal elitist. :p

  99. 99.

    Denali

    January 17, 2013 at 5:42 pm

    @Cornerstone,

    You win the Internet today! (the hippies,the water supply, the drugs and the Mormons) trifecta or quadfecta, your choice!

  100. 100.

    Jim

    January 17, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Very god points.

    My point, however, is that even in Bob’s mistaken view that denying services to the public is an effective attack on the government, his examples don’t require much beyond bolt cutters and perhaps the standard hunting rifle. There is no need for unfettered access to any of the controversial weapons like AR-15s and extended magazines. None. Much less background checks. So he’s arguing against himself.

  101. 101.

    redshirt

    January 17, 2013 at 6:08 pm

    I encourage everyone (except the infirm, pregnant women, and children) to read Free Republic on a regular basis.

    This kind of terrorist talk happens there every day. You think you know how crazy these 27%ers are? Dive into the forums and find out how wrong you are – they’re crazier than you even think.

  102. 102.

    John Fremont

    January 17, 2013 at 6:48 pm

    @NonyNony: Recall, that this was the crowd that sent out all of those bullshit emails about the blah people killing each other , shooting at first responders,and stealing TV sets after Katrina.

    They also high fived each other over that guy who flew his plane into the IRS building a few years ago.

  103. 103.

    Glyph_2112

    January 17, 2013 at 6:50 pm

    Obama is being compared to Hitler so much, I am beginning to think Hitler wasn’t that bad of a guy. I mean was the “death camps” just the conservative talking points for Urban development?

  104. 104.

    amk

    January 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    @Belafon (formerly anonevent): aka al-qeada.

  105. 105.

    Bill Arnold

    January 17, 2013 at 7:11 pm

    I keep having visions (sort of a thoughtworm) of winggunnuts training legions of suicide squirrels to attack substations.
    That, and wondering about how much lead poisoning happens at gun ranges.

  106. 106.

    redshirt

    January 17, 2013 at 7:26 pm

    By this logic, if everyone revolted all at once, together, there’s no force in the world that could stop us. PEOPLE POWER!

  107. 107.

    Studly Pantload, the emotionally unavailable unicorn

    January 17, 2013 at 7:40 pm

    What excites these gun-toting yahoos who proclaimed at protests a couple summers ago that they came in peace, “THIS TIME,” isn’t going to excite enough people for an armed revolution. Despite the fact that about 27% percent of our nation is comprised of knuckle-draggers, only a fraction of that amount could possibly get behind the idea of breaking up the relative social order they enjoy and putting theirs’ and their families’ lives on the line because of — what? Moderatly high taxes on the rich? Better background checks for gun sellers and buyers? Sure, there’s a black guy in the White House, but his lease is up in early ‘017.

    Now, if they proclaim they need their guns because of an actual coup of our democracy – well, who the hell do they think would try to pull off such a coup? The would-be overthrowers would need military support to orchestrate such a thing, as well as the support of big business. Do any of you see a bunch of Commies calling the shots for the military and big business? No, the only entity that could get their support would have to be comprised of rabid right wingers (see also, Business Plot, The, c. 1933).

    And if the fascists really did try to take over, the wingnuts wouldn’t be fighting them, they’d be cheering them on at the local victory parades before heading home for their victory feasts.

    What Hank Hill used to say about Bobby applies to these nuts: “The boy ain’t right.”

    -Studly, late to the party as usual

  108. 108.

    SiubhanDuinne

    January 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Does anyone else remember when the Eastern Power Grid went down a few years back?

    You kidding? I was therefor the great, original, “where-were-you-when-the-lights-went-out?” blackout of November 1965.

  109. 109.

    J R in WV

    January 17, 2013 at 7:54 pm

    @celticdragonchick:

    Come on now, so far every home-grown terrorist since Terry Nichols has been working closely with the FBI…

    So the weapons the Reicht-wind-nuts use, other than carbines, won’t work. The FBI, on the other hand, will have heavy weapons, in helicopters, along with drones.

    So don’t worry, be cool.

    JR

  110. 110.

    S. cerevisiae

    January 17, 2013 at 8:23 pm

    Perhaps if we built a large wooden badger…

  111. 111.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    @Jim: You’re right. My points are God like.

  112. 112.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 9:26 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    I was there for the great, original, “where-were-you-when-the-lights-went-out?” blackout of November 1965.

    Really? Your nom makes you look a lot younger.

  113. 113.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 9:27 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I said, “a few years back”, not a few lifetimes back.

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 9:28 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Are you dropping us a hint that your real name is Todd?

    (Most of the youngsters here won’t get that one.)

  115. 115.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 9:29 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    Age-ist bastard.

  116. 116.

    Corner Stone

    January 17, 2013 at 9:35 pm

    @SFAW: “Old People: Should they be recycled or do they offer societal value?”

  117. 117.

    SFAW

    January 17, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Hey! Get offa my lawn, you whippersnapper! Or I’ll come over there and … and … wait, where was I?

    ETA: And type louder, so I can hear you better.

  118. 118.

    Central Planning

    January 17, 2013 at 10:56 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    I know, i know, there’s no point describing the flaws of a wet dream.

    What possible flaws are there in a wet dream?

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