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You are here: Home / We’re Going To Need A Bigger Popcorn Bucket

We’re Going To Need A Bigger Popcorn Bucket

by Tom Levenson|  February 7, 201312:30 pm| 114 Comments

This post is in: Good News For Conservatives

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What part of this sentence does not fit with the other:

“We, the free men and women of this great nation, affirm everyone’s natural right to speak their mind but we cannot and will not abide the unjust, personal broadside your aide Jonathan Collegio leveled against a man whose family has dedicated itself to advancing the cause of liberty for over half a century…”

Thus, via TPM, we learn how, in the midst of the latest skirmish within the GOP, our friends across the aisle remain Unclear On The Concept…

Mine with extra butter, please.

Popcorn, 2008

Image: Andrew Stevovich, ‘Popcorn’ 2008

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114Comments

  1. 1.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 7, 2013 at 12:37 pm

    Freedom for me, but not for thee.

  2. 2.

    Yutsano

    February 7, 2013 at 12:45 pm

    Shorter conservatives: RESPECT OUR AUTHORITAH!! Don’t you know who we ARE? How DARE you criticise your betters?

  3. 3.

    soonergrunt (mobile)

    February 7, 2013 at 12:47 pm

    The stupid, it burns.

  4. 4.

    low-tech cyclist

    February 7, 2013 at 12:48 pm

    I never cared for popcorn. Pass the chocolate chip cookies, please.

  5. 5.

    Baud

    February 7, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    They will not abide. Don’t you even think about them abiding. They are without abidability.

  6. 6.

    Capri

    February 7, 2013 at 12:49 pm

    It occurred to me that the answer to the R’s problems is to undo the gerrymandered state districts – the ones that are so deep red that any Bozo with a R after their name can get elected. If the only republicans that get elected are ones that can succeed in semi-diverse districts, the Bozo problem takes care of itself overnight. Sure, you’d have a few less Republicans in office overall, but they’d all be able to talk in public.

    These nutso rep.s are the equivalent of rare orchids that can only survive in an artificial hot house. This problem is going to be solved by taking down the greenhouses, not by trying to convince folks to only grow daisies in them.

    One of those unintended consequences thingies…

  7. 7.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 7, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Ok, how about we call Bozell “vile fascist dogshit”.

    Fire me, Kkkarl!

  8. 8.

    maya

    February 7, 2013 at 12:50 pm

    Is there a place they send Republican candidates to to become “disciplined”?

  9. 9.

    Forked Tongue

    February 7, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    Let us not forget that Bozell’s dad was so dedicated to the cause of liberty that he moved the family to Spain so they could know the joys of living under Franco.

  10. 10.

    Raven

    February 7, 2013 at 12:52 pm

    @maya: How bout that judge in Miami?

  11. 11.

    Alex

    February 7, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    That letter is hilarious. Really, read the whole thing.

    It almost peaks when it starts listing his illustrious uncles, but the last two lines turn it into AMAZING.

  12. 12.

    Baud

    February 7, 2013 at 1:03 pm

    @Alex:

    Bozell has two uncles. Scandalous.

    I also like the Left is capitalized. That’s right, motherfuckers, we are a proper noun. Respect.

  13. 13.

    Paul in KY

    February 7, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    @Capri: They know they would lose the House if they did that.

  14. 14.

    SteveM

    February 7, 2013 at 1:10 pm

    Oh, they’ll patch this up in time to get Marco Dreamboat elected president in 2016.

  15. 15.

    Ash Can

    February 7, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    crunchmunchmunchmunchmunch
    crunchmunchmunchmunch

    ::waves pennant that reads “GO INJURIES!”::

  16. 16.

    jibeaux

    February 7, 2013 at 1:11 pm

    I might have demanded his firing for having used the word “like” unnecessarily three times in one short sentence. I’m guessing that having a guy who does that plus says “hater”, though, represents their youth outreach, and they can’t afford to let him go.

  17. 17.

    RobertDSC-iPhone 4

    February 7, 2013 at 1:12 pm

    Rooting for injuries has never felt so good.

    Fuck you, GOP.

  18. 18.

    MikeJ

    February 7, 2013 at 1:13 pm

    @Capri:

    It occurred to me that the answer to the R’s problems is to undo the gerrymandered state districts – the ones that are so deep red that any Bozo with a R after their name can get elected.

    Gerrymandering actually makes it harder for any individual Republican to win, but maximizes the number of Republicans.

  19. 19.

    jibeaux

    February 7, 2013 at 1:17 pm

    @Alex: it’s like the violent bizarro world of that hymn “let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me.”

  20. 20.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 7, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    @Baud: I also have uncles. Respect me.

  21. 21.

    Ash Can

    February 7, 2013 at 1:19 pm

    @SteveM:

    Oh, they’ll patch this up in time to get Marco Dreamboat elected president in 2016.

    I see a wisp of something in my crystal ball, something along the lines of Obama sweet-talking Rubio into helping out with immigration reform efforts, maybe giving him a prominent platform for contributing to the drafting of new policies, engaging him to the extent that when reform is passed, Rubio is so delighted with the success of the effort and all the congratulatory phone calls his office is getting from happy Hispanic constituents that he gives the Prez a big ol’ hug as the cameras roll…

    Now, my crystal ball can be plenty goofy sometimes. But then again, so can the Republicans.

  22. 22.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    February 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    @MikeJ:

    Gerrymandering actually makes it harder for any individual Republican to win, but maximizes the number of Republicans.

    Here in CA some of the Gerrymandered districts were so deep red that Republicans didn’t have to worry about a challenge from the Left, but they damn’ sure had to worry about a challenge from the right.

  23. 23.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 1:22 pm

    Any Cali residents have an update on the one man insurgency?

  24. 24.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    Man, what a mess going on out here in SoCal. Two people dead, one cop dead, two other cops shot, police have shot at two sets of innocent people thinking they were the suspect, and a military base now locked down because they think they may have him there, but who the fuck knows.

  25. 25.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    February 7, 2013 at 1:25 pm

    @Cassidy:

    So far they suspect him of killing two civilians and one police officer. They also suspect him of wounding two other officers.

  26. 26.

    Corner Stone

    February 7, 2013 at 1:27 pm

    @? Martin: Well, shit. Let me pack a couple things and head West so I can see about cleaning this mess up.

  27. 27.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 1:28 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: I read his manifesto Raven linked to and all I could think was “wow”. If even half of that is true, and this guy is half as good as he thinks he is, there might be some dead cops for a little while. That’s just one of those einformation overload things where you don’t really know what to think.

  28. 28.

    schrodinger's cat

    February 7, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    @SteveM: Can’t be dreamboat with a receding hairline.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    February 7, 2013 at 1:30 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Always.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    February 7, 2013 at 1:32 pm

    @SteveM:

    I thought Christie was the GOP savior. It’s so confusing.

  31. 31.

    Raven

    February 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    @Cassidy: I’m watching the LA news online. Dudes are on high alert.

  32. 32.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:33 pm

    Twitter says that the guy at Point Loma isn’t Dorner, so this may not be over yet.

  33. 33.

    Raven

    February 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    Just a taste for thosen who missed it:

    Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I’ll tell you. It’s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don’t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.

    The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD’s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba’ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.”

  34. 34.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm

    @Raven: The couple that was killed in Irvine, one was the daughter of an LAPD officer and apparently killed in revenge, along with her boyfriend.

    So yeah, high alert. This sounds like Lethal Weapon movie playing out.

  35. 35.

    Raven

    February 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    My mom lived in Torrance right next to the Del Amo Mall.

  36. 36.

    Belafon (formerly anonevent)

    February 7, 2013 at 1:39 pm

    @Ash Can: Someone needs to sell that. Be able to buy all sorts of sporting stuff with “Injuries” printed on them. I want the foam finger version.

  37. 37.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:45 pm

    Yeah, news just broke in and said that Dorner isn’t at Point Loma. They don’t have him yet.

  38. 38.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    @? Martin:

    Sounds like another graduate of our excellent mental health facilities.

  39. 39.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 1:47 pm

    @? Martin: She was the daughter of the retired Captain who “represented” him at his hearing.

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    February 7, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    @Raven: “We are the ones we have been waiting for.”
    Or is that more of a slogan and not a manifesto?

  41. 41.

    Roger Moore

    February 7, 2013 at 1:48 pm

    @? Martin:

    Two people dead, one cop dead, two other cops shot,

    If only the police had been armed and properly trained, none of this would have happened./NRA

  42. 42.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    @Ben Franklin: Nope. Former LAPD. Claims he was terminated unjustly because he reported another officer for excessive force, career as a police officer and anvy career ended over it, and has declared war on the LAPD.

  43. 43.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    Another confrontation in Corona. Officer grazed by shoulder-fired weapon (no doubt it’s ‘select’ fire)

  44. 44.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    February 7, 2013 at 1:49 pm

    @Raven:

    Oh, shit. If those Barretts are firing full-house .50 cal BMG rounds the max range is 6800 meters and the max effective range is between 1800 and 2000 meters.

    Heaven help the cops on this one.

  45. 45.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    @Cassidy:

    Sounds mental, to me. Brain tumor? He was depressed. Psychotropic drugs or anti-depressants. You make it sound like this is a labor dispute.

  46. 46.

    Raven

    February 7, 2013 at 1:51 pm

    @Corner Stone: Here’s the whole document, have fun.

  47. 47.

    Raven

    February 7, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    @Ben Franklin: You need to read up on this, there’s plenty of information. Start with what HE said.

  48. 48.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:52 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Yes. No need to worry about our police being armed to the teeth. They are highly trained, after all. :)

  49. 49.

    replicnt6

    February 7, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Is this what they mean by “crying uncle”?

  50. 50.

    Seanly

    February 7, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    Me loves some internecine squabbling on the right. I’m rooting for both sides to step it up a notch (or several).

  51. 51.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 1:53 pm

    @Ben Franklin: Not saying he didn’t crack. I’m saying chalking it up to a “mental health patient” gone wild ignores significant portions of the story. The sad part is that in this day and age, we don’t know how much of it is true, yet his whole version sounds entirely plausible.

  52. 52.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 1:56 pm

    @Raven:

    The question is, what would you do to clear your name?

    Well, I would kill the daughter of my former Captain and her fiance, then I would go kill a couple more cops.

    Yep, that would take care of y reputation.

  53. 53.

    patroclus

    February 7, 2013 at 1:57 pm

    My uncles actually did fight for liberty – one was a Naval officer who served in a tanker off Okinawa during WWII and the other was an Air Force pilot for something like 30 years. Neither were right-wing blowhards who grifted off the media for decades though…

  54. 54.

    peach flavored shampoo

    February 7, 2013 at 2:00 pm

    Officer grazed by shoulder-fired weapon

    Come again?

  55. 55.

    The Dangerman

    February 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    Turns out that the poor Asian women this morning were approaching a high value target in the wrong color vehicle and with the headlights turned off. Wonder if they even speak English if the Cops were ordering them to stop?

    At any rate, KACHING! for them, there should be a nice settlement in their future.

    ETA: Anyone else having flashbacks to the SLA shootouot back in the 70’s? Last time I can recall anything quite like this matter. Probably will have a similar outcome.

  56. 56.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

    @peach flavored shampoo:

    OK, officer grazed by bullet fired from a shouldered weapon….

    But that was from TeeVee News, so there it is.

  57. 57.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    February 7, 2013 at 2:05 pm

    @Cassidy:

    Not saying he didn’t crack. I’m saying chalking it up to a “mental health patient” gone wild ignores significant portions of the story.

    Isn’t chalking it up to mental illness something that the NRA does whenever there’s a horrific shooting?

  58. 58.

    Paul in KY

    February 7, 2013 at 2:07 pm

    @Cassidy: He’s probably not as good as he thinks he is.

    I read the manifesto (not all of it, started skimming a bit after word 1,000). This guy seems like one of those avuncular seeming individuals who bottles it all up…until it goes.

  59. 59.

    Paul in KY

    February 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: It is hard to hide one of those.

  60. 60.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 2:10 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    Isn’t chalking it up to mental illness something that the NRA does whenever there’s a horrific shooting?

    I am not a member. How could this guy’s behavior, not represent a breakdown?

  61. 61.

    Corner Stone

    February 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    @The Dangerman: “Anyone who runs…”

  62. 62.

    the Conster

    February 7, 2013 at 2:15 pm

    @Raven:

    Not to diminish the scope of this situation, but I saw this whole thing go down on episode of Luther.

  63. 63.

    Paul in KY

    February 7, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    @The Dangerman: For a few hours, the armoured nuts who tried to reprise Ned Kelly had the LAPD whigging out.

  64. 64.

    JPL

    February 7, 2013 at 2:17 pm

    If I lived in CA and drove a dark colored Nissan truck, I would consider leaving it parked.

  65. 65.

    trollhattan

    February 7, 2013 at 2:21 pm

    They finally got to the bottom of the mystery money source of last fall’s no-on-Prop-30 campaign in California–engineers who want to privatize all state engineering. They sure went through a lot of hoops to hide their role and intentions.

    Corporations are people, my friends.

    A group that backs privatizing public infrastructure engineering work gave $400,000 to an opaque, out-of-state organization that injected millions of dollars – and plenty of controversy – into California’s initiative campaigns last year.

    New state campaign filings show that the American Council of Engineering Companies California made a $150,000 donation to a Virginia-based nonprofit in July and another $250,000 in September.

    That nonprofit, Americans for Job Security, in turn, gave money to another nonprofit organization based in Arizona, which then contributed $11 million to a California committee that opposed Gov. Jerry Brown’s Proposition 30 tax hike and supported Proposition 32, which sought to end payroll- deducted political contributions.

    The engineering business group’s donation surfaced Friday because California law requires political action committees to show their spending, including money that goes to issue-advocacy groups.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2013/02/05/5165855/private-engineers-group-gave-400k.html#storylink=cpy

  66. 66.

    handy

    February 7, 2013 at 2:23 pm

    @JPL:

    A dark-colored Nissan is not required..

  67. 67.

    MomSense

    February 7, 2013 at 2:25 pm

    From the article.
    “Collegio went on WMAL in Washington, D.C. Wednesday morning and said Bozell is a “hater” for opposing American Crossroads’ new offshoot, the Conservative Victory Project, a super PAC aiming to back disciplined Republican candidates to win back a majority in the Senate.”

    “disciplined Republican candidates” ????

    Is that another way of saying candidates who keep their wingnut on the down low?

  68. 68.

    trollhattan

    February 7, 2013 at 2:29 pm

    @Raven:

    Ugh, ugh, ugh. More 2nd Amendment remedies to personal demons. Not unlike the airline pilot in the Sierra Foothills last weekend, except for the shooting-himself-afterwards thing.

    No more bodies, please.

  69. 69.

    The Red Pen

    February 7, 2013 at 2:31 pm

    Mr. Collegio calling Mr. Bozell a “hater” publicly on WMAL radio this morning reflects the language of the establishment Republicans. It is the divisive language of the Left.

    They have a point.

    The divisive language of the right would be more like “usurper” or “Communist” or “pervert” or “traitor” or really any number of completely delusional accusations. The mild, and completely subjective, epithet “hater” is something a non-deranged person — like those on the left — might choose.

    I really have to hand them this point.

  70. 70.

    MikeJ

    February 7, 2013 at 2:32 pm

    @MomSense:

    “disciplined Republican candidates” ????

    All I can think of is Full Metal Jacket.

    Anyone who runs for office is a teabagger. Anyone who doesn’t run is a well disciplined teabagger.

  71. 71.

    Roger Moore

    February 7, 2013 at 2:34 pm

    @MikeJ:

    All I can think of is Full Metal Jacket.

    And all I can think of is a Republican candidate hiring a dominatrix to discipline him.

  72. 72.

    Omnes Omnibus

    February 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm

    @MikeJ: My mind went straight to BDSM. Two wet suits and a gimp mask territory, if you ask me.

  73. 73.

    drew42

    February 7, 2013 at 2:39 pm

    Bullshit. There’s no conflict.

    This is all just more chest thumping self-promotion on both “sides” of the GOP. There’s no disagreement in ideas or policy, just in how they want to brand themselves. And it’s not really even a conflict of branding — they’re just throwing it all out there to see which type of branding makes them more money.

    It’s hollower than Coke vs. Pepsi. It’s more like Diet Dr. Pepper vs. Dr. Pepper 10.

  74. 74.

    maurinsky

    February 7, 2013 at 2:42 pm

    Why am I reminded of the West Coast rap vs. East Coast rap wars of the 90s? Those last two lines are indeed the ones that made me laugh the most. Circular firing squad, assemble!

  75. 75.

    Roger Moore

    February 7, 2013 at 2:43 pm

    @maurinsky:
    With the rap wars, though, the firing squads were no joke.

  76. 76.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 2:44 pm

    @Cassidy: And the story right under the lead story at LATimes is:

    Deputies tied to secret clique to be fired
    …
    The seven belonged to an organization, dubbed the Jump Out Boys, that promoted aggressive policing, celebrated shootings and branded its members with matching tattoos, left.

    So, yeah. His story is hardly implausible. But that little rant quoted above sounds as much like a former neighbor of mine who was schizophrenic. That’s how he’d talk just as he went off his meds. Another day later he’d be completely incoherent, so that was our warning.

  77. 77.

    MomSense

    February 7, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    @? Martin:

    What???

  78. 78.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    @Paul in KY:

    He’s probably not as good as he thinks he is.

    They never are.

    But the LAPD response tells you something about how good they think he is. They’re actively guarding police stations. They’re not taking any chances with this guy.

  79. 79.

    TG Chicago

    February 7, 2013 at 2:48 pm

    I agree with those who said that you need to read the full letter. From the implication of Conservative Royalty to the explicit inclusion of “establishment Republicans” into “the Left”, it’s just amazing.

    To me, the most preposterous part of the excerpt in the post was the notion than Brent Bozell — head of the Parents Television Council — is dedicated to “advancing the cause of liberty”. Liberty through repression! Freedom can only come through censorship!

  80. 80.

    Tonal Crow

    February 7, 2013 at 2:49 pm

    @maya:

    Is there a place they send Republican candidates to to become “disciplined”?

    Gitmo sounds like a good option.

  81. 81.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    @? Martin: Ugh. Someone had to know this was not going to end well.

    On another note altogether, my apartment manager wants to conduct a meeting between the downstairs neighbor and I. I’m really not interested in anything more than an apology, but she’s a nice lady who has made a genuine attempt to resolve this and consider all aprties involved, so I said yes. We shall see what happens.

  82. 82.

    trollhattan

    February 7, 2013 at 2:50 pm

    @? Martin:

    Buddy of mine was a small city manager in LA county, and his city contracted with LA County Sheriffs for police services. He got to know both departments quite well and his tales comparing the sheriffs with their LAPD counterparts were hair-raising, to say the least.

  83. 83.

    Roger Moore

    February 7, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    @? Martin:
    Of course there’s no reason to assume that it’s an either/or situation. It’s entirely possible that he was wrongly terminated for exposing another cop’s improper use of force and that he’s a paranoid loon who’s doing something crazy that’s all out of proportion to the harm he suffered.

  84. 84.

    Tonal Crow

    February 7, 2013 at 2:52 pm

    @? Martin:

    Man, what a mess going on out here in SoCal. Two people dead, one cop dead, two other cops shot, police have shot at two sets of innocent people thinking they were the suspect, and a military base now locked down because they think they may have him there, but who the fuck knows.

    Where’s the NRA Klown Kar Posse Force?

  85. 85.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 2:53 pm

    @Ben Franklin:

    How could this guy’s behavior, not represent a breakdown?

    Maybe he’s just really pissed off. Just because someone does something outside of our cultural norms doesn’t mean they have a mental health issue. Not every criminal is crazy. Most of them are just criminals.

  86. 86.

    Dave

    February 7, 2013 at 2:55 pm

    Oh hey nice artwork; is it yours?

  87. 87.

    Cassidy

    February 7, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    @Dave: It’s not really art. it’s pixels on a conputer screen.

  88. 88.

    Another Halocene Human

    February 7, 2013 at 2:56 pm

    Test.

  89. 89.

    trollhattan

    February 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    @? Martin:
    Here, in comments, when Sandy Hook was still unfolding, a gun fondler confidently proclaimed, “I guarantee he got his weapons illegally.”

    Take nothing to the bank and draw no conclusions on this LA savagery while it’s still occurring, other than the dead are yet more senseless gunfire victims.

  90. 90.

    Tonal Crow

    February 7, 2013 at 2:59 pm

    @? Martin: Well said. Defining every murderer (or even every mass murderer) as “mentally ill” perverts the term and cedes vital territory to the NRA.

  91. 91.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 3:04 pm

    @Tonal Crow:

    Where’s the NRA Klown Kar Posse Force?

    Hiding, as usual.

  92. 92.

    The Moar You Know

    February 7, 2013 at 3:18 pm

    Sounds mental, to me. Brain tumor? He was depressed. Psychotropic drugs or anti-depressants. You make it sound like this is a labor dispute.

    @Ben Franklin: He’s not crazy.

    He’s been pushed beyond his breaking point, but he is not crazy.

    A problem is that they let current and retired LE buy any kind of weapon they can afford in this country. Class 3, full-auto, “destructive device”, you name it, they can get it legally. We might want to change that in light of what’s going on here today.

    Fucking glad I sold my dark blue Nissan pickup two years ago. This is a bad day to be driving a pickup truck around SoCal.

  93. 93.

    bemused

    February 7, 2013 at 3:22 pm

    LAPD on the manhunt shot and injured two women who were delivering newspapers in a blue pickup. The pickup was riddled with bullet shots.

    I think I would not want to be driving or outside at all anywhere in the area if police are this edgy/panicky.

  94. 94.

    Gravenstone

    February 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm

    @Tonal Crow: I imagine Chet will be along shortly to tout the merits of MANPADS and Barret .50 BMG rifles for home defense purposes.

  95. 95.

    trollhattan

    February 7, 2013 at 3:27 pm

    @bemused:

    A good question for LAPD is how they mistook two women for a very large blah man. Sheesh.

  96. 96.

    GregB

    February 7, 2013 at 3:33 pm

    @Capri:

    Actually these GOP redistricting morons did exactly what I figured they’d which was to bite off their nose to spite their faces.

    In many states they made the Democrats’ districts more blue and watered down their districts to make more of them.

    They didn’t figure in future demographic shifts it seems.

    Idiots.

  97. 97.

    El Caganer

    February 7, 2013 at 3:35 pm

    After reading (some, not all) of the California shooter’s manifesto, I don’t think he’s any crazier than the Unabomber. Make of that what you will.

  98. 98.

    Another Halocene Human

    February 7, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    @El Caganer: The Unabomber was pretty deranged.

    So was Lee Harvey Oswald.

    OTOH, that Texas college shooter in the 60s was just butthurt, as I understand it.

    omg, fywp

  99. 99.

    El Caganer

    February 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    @Another Halocene Human: Whitman? He’s the one who had a brain tumor.

  100. 100.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    @trollhattan: Well, truck matching description rolls up with lights off while its still dark out. It looks suspicious.

    Would be nice if our local law enforcement knew that this was SOP for the folks that deliver the paper so they don’t wake everyone up shining their headlights in bedroom windows, though, and went the extra step to at least get a look at the driver. What a colossal fuckup.

    Glad that we know a bit more about the murders here from the weekend, though. Homicides are unusual here and almost never random. We tend toward the dramatic, though. The bioweapons guy was still the high point.

  101. 101.

    Hob

    February 7, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    @? Martin: Did you read the manifesto? That is not how someone who’s just righteously super-angry at injustice writes. That’s someone who’s lost all awareness of how human beings talk to each other and how they’re likely to respond to being shot at. For Christ’s sake, he even tells the children of the victims that they’ll get over it because their dad was a bad guy and anyway he’ll get a commemorative plaque. Not to mention that he seems totally obsessed with military acronyms.

  102. 102.

    Maude

    February 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    BJ WP forgot my name again.
    If this former LAPD officer killed people, doesn’t that make him a killer?
    I don’t care why he did it. He’s a cold blooded murderer.

  103. 103.

    GxB

    February 7, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: An ex of mine would site Sean Connery (several years ago but yes even in his wrinkled state) as an exception.

  104. 104.

    Roger Moore

    February 7, 2013 at 3:54 pm

    @Hob:

    That is not how someone who’s just righteously super-angry at injustice writes.

    And he’s not behaving how somebody who’s just upset about injustice behaves. If you think somebody has wronged you, you go after that person, not their daughter and her fiance. In what universe does “the LAPD wronged me by ignoring my complaint about excessive force, so I’m going to murder their families to prove how wrong they were” make logical sense?

  105. 105.

    schrodinger's cat

    February 7, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    @GxB: Rubio is no Connery or even Patrick Stewart for that matter. While there are some exceptions, receding hairline does not a dreamboat make.

  106. 106.

    Tone in DC

    February 7, 2013 at 4:04 pm

    Rubio is no Connery or even Patrick Stewart for that matter. While there are some exceptions, receding hairline does not a dreamboat make.

    Somewhere, Carrot Top is smiling.

  107. 107.

    Tone in DC

    February 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    Would be nice if our local law enforcement knew that this was SOP for the folks that deliver the paper so they don’t wake everyone up shining their headlights in bedroom windows, though, and went the extra step to at least get a look at the driver. What a colossal fuckup.

    Hope this ends soon. It reminds me a bit of 2002 around here.

  108. 108.

    ? Martin

    February 7, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    @Hob:

    That’s someone who’s lost all awareness of how human beings talk to each other and how they’re likely to respond to being shot at.

    Like I said farther up, he sounds like my schizophrenic former-neighbor. I was just trying to refute the assertion that all criminals like this are crazy. They aren’t necessarily. Doesn’t really matter in this case – he’s dangerous and has guns.

    Now reporting he may be in Big Bear. They’re just grasping at straws here.

  109. 109.

    trollhattan

    February 7, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    @? Martin:

    Apparently the truck, or the same model truck, was found in flames. This is like a runaway “24” episode. Does he have a hovercraft hidden in the woods?

  110. 110.

    Ben Franklin

    February 7, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    A problem is that they let current and retired LE buy any kind of weapon they can afford in this country. Class 3, full-auto, “destructive device”, you name it, they can get it legally. We might want to change that in light of what’s going on here today.

    He was terminated in 2008, but his wallet and BADGE were found in Riverside(?)

    No one on the news has asked a single question about the badge.

  111. 111.

    J R in W Va

    February 7, 2013 at 7:29 pm

    How can any person or group fashion that sentence without having heads explode all around?

    Not that I’m jumping to defend the subject, Bozo’ell – or perhaps Collegio, whoever he is….

  112. 112.

    polyorchnid octopunch

    February 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm

    The long recitation of Bozell’s family members reveals that the writers are really into aristocracy, and hate democracy and America.

  113. 113.

    schrodinger's cat

    February 7, 2013 at 8:52 pm

    @Tone in DC: To be a dreamboat
    hair is a necessary, but not a sufficient condition.

  114. 114.

    A moocher

    February 8, 2013 at 12:24 am

    @trollhattan: hovercraft? That’s more “Neuromancer”….which would be cool. Except nothing about this situation is cool.

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