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Open Thread

by $8 blue check mistermix|  February 8, 20133:35 pm| 136 Comments

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Looks like whatever I did helped some but not others. I can’t do any more from where I sit. Cole and his site people will have to take a look.

Here’s another open thread for we few, we happy few, who can see the site.

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  1. 1.

    S. Holland

    February 8, 2013 at 3:38 pm

    I am one of the few, uuhh happy few, who can see the site! Am I alone in here?

  2. 2.

    Nalbar

    February 8, 2013 at 3:39 pm

    Nope, you are not alone

  3. 3.

    srv

    February 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm

    Is there a term for these brownouts? Maybe Tunchouts?

    Anyone have John’s support number? Maybe we could call his mom.

  4. 4.

    Corner Stone

    February 8, 2013 at 3:41 pm

    Nope, site still loads “Strange Ranger” when coming to it cold.
    The bork, it is strong with this site hmmmm??

  5. 5.

    Peej

    February 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm

    I’m having no problem whatever coming in on my iPad using Safari.

  6. 6.

    Comrade Mary

    February 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    Front page loaded perfectly and my credenza is intact. Yay ^2!

    Thanks, mistermix!

  7. 7.

    freelancer

    February 8, 2013 at 3:44 pm

    What was that gmail address that Cole gave out to address rebuild issues?

  8. 8.

    Maude

    February 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    For me on updated FF, the site loads with all of the posts. The comments needed to be F5’d.
    Still knows my name.

  9. 9.

    gbear

    February 8, 2013 at 3:45 pm

    I’m one of the few, but I’m still at work so I’m not one of the happy. I got here via Internet Explorer. Haha all you browser snobs.

  10. 10.

    srv

    February 8, 2013 at 3:46 pm

    @freelancer: Maybe John took all the money and moved to Newark.

  11. 11.

    Davis X. Machina

    February 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    Never had any problems, OS X 10.7, Firefox and a ’09 era Macbook.

    Is it a ‘mobile’ thing? I have been informed by my children that it is possible to look at the Internet using one’s cellphone, of all things.

    I refuse to believe such codswallop, but there you are.

  12. 12.

    Schlemizel

    February 8, 2013 at 3:47 pm

    For he today that sheds his bits with me shall be my brother
    And gentlemen in England now a-bed
    Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
    And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks

    – Hank 5 by Billy S

  13. 13.

    Riley's Enabler

    February 8, 2013 at 3:48 pm

    It’s showing up fine on my desktop/Firefox (new posts! new comments!) but on the iphone it gives no steady love.

    72 and sunny in TX today. Say what you will about our politics, our winters they do not suck.

  14. 14.

    The Dangerman

    February 8, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    Still hosed in Chrome.

    Time for a theme song for this crisis:

    A bork is a bork,
    of course of course,
    and no one can post with this site borked,
    of course,
    that is of course,
    unless the bork,
    is fixed by the famous Mister Cole*

    *or Tunch, whoever runs the place

  15. 15.

    Comrade Mary

    February 8, 2013 at 3:49 pm

    @Maude: If it is partially fixed but it still knows your name, then you have balloon-juice cookies hanging around. Try clearing cache and just the site cookies (Tools | Options | Privacy | remove individual cookies).

    You will have to re-enter your credentials one more time, but it should be fine (I think) after that.

  16. 16.

    freelancer

    February 8, 2013 at 3:50 pm

    @srv:

    Why choose New Jersey?

  17. 17.

    aangus

    February 8, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    I was only 11 when I first heard this….

    just sayin’

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZsweuaqAf8

  18. 18.

    Arm The Homeless

    February 8, 2013 at 3:51 pm

    @Riley’s Enabler: We have three blooming Azaleas in our yard and a lovely coating of pine sperm on everything here in N Florida. These past two winters have been very odd, but I am sure it’s just sun spots or something…

  19. 19.

    mai naem

    February 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    chrome here

  20. 20.

    catclub

    February 8, 2013 at 3:52 pm

    @Corner Stone: It loaded the Stranger Ranger thread for me, until I restarted Firefox.
    Now it shows this thread.

  21. 21.

    Schlemizel

    February 8, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    @Arm The Homeless:

    I never had an allergy until I lived in FL. Then one day I walked out of my house & everything was a lovely shade of gold, the house the car, the street, even the air was golden with crap falling from the pine trees. Now I have some sort of hay fever every summer.

  22. 22.

    jl

    February 8, 2013 at 3:55 pm

    OK, open thread. I have a few items. First, pro-tip for politically active type here, DO NOT criticize Chris Christie’s weight unless you have an unlisted phone number.

    Second, heroic dogs are in the news today.

    Stella! Ornery dog leads to $1M Idaho lottery win
    By BRADY McCOMBS AP

    http://news.yahoo.com/stella-ornery-dog-leads-1m-idaho-lottery-win-201354312.html

    Homeless man sends his dog for help, dog saves the day
    By Claudine Zap
    The Lookout

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/homeless-man-sends-dog-help-152709057.html

    The hero dog’s name is ‘Buddy’. Dude, how can you beat that kind of Lassie action?

  23. 23.

    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist

    February 8, 2013 at 3:56 pm

    successful with IE in Detroit over VPN thru Germany.

    But I have nothing to say.

  24. 24.

    longtime lurk

    February 8, 2013 at 3:57 pm

    I can see the blog fine, so congratulations. I also want to congratulate this blog on its fine, intensive coverage of the Brennan confirmation hearing and all issues related to it. Major kudos!!

  25. 25.

    geg6

    February 8, 2013 at 3:59 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Yup, very strong borking. I’ve tried everything I can think of and nothing is working.

  26. 26.

    RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist

    February 8, 2013 at 4:00 pm

    Here’s a site question: I want to change my commenting Name. I’ve tried posting under a different name and emai laddress, but I get Moderated. Probably because FYWP is sniffing my IP Address.
    How is a change of Name accomplished? I kinda need to go a little more anonymous.

  27. 27.

    Schlemizel

    February 8, 2013 at 4:01 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    BTW _ I know a lot of people are familiar with that one soliloquy from Hank 5 but the background for it make the whole scene more dramatic.

    The English are about to meet the French in battle & are outnumbers 3 or 4 to 1. One of the Dukes wishes out loud that they had but 10,000 of the idle men currently in England by their side. Hank calls him out & says “No, we are much better off with out those guys” and then explains how they will never be able to feel like real men because they did not show up to get their asses handed to them on St. Crispins Day.

    Its really quite moving & particularly so when you think of the times you may have stood up in a losing cause & wished you had more by your side. Say, from 1999 through 2008 at least every day and way to often in many years around those.

    He that outlives this day, and comes safe home,
    Will stand a tip-toe when the day is named,
    And rouse him at the name of Crispian.
    He that shall live this day, and see old age,
    Will yearly on the vigil feast his neighbours,
    And say ‘To-morrow is Saint Crispian:’
    Then will he strip his sleeve and show his scars.
    And say ‘These wounds I had on Crispin’s day.’
    Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot,
    But he’ll remember with advantages
    What feats he did that day: then shall our names.
    Familiar in his mouth as household words

  28. 28.

    geg6

    February 8, 2013 at 4:02 pm

    @Davis X. Machina:

    I can’t get it to load in right in either my phone or my desktop at work. And I won’t even try it on my laptop at home since that thing crashes if you breathe on it too hard.

  29. 29.

    catclub

    February 8, 2013 at 4:05 pm

    @RossinDetroit, Rational Subjectivist: Post twice with new nym. Be patient.

    You automatically get moderated as both new and using the same email as ‘another’ poster.

  30. 30.

    geg6

    February 8, 2013 at 4:06 pm

    And the people I work with wonder why I despise all things Disney…

    http://wonkette.com/500514/disneyland-white-power-rabbit-makes-black-children-cry

  31. 31.

    Maude

    February 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    @Comrade Mary:
    It still has my name. I have eaten all the cookies.
    We are just starting the snow here. It won’t really come in until tonight.

  32. 32.

    Squirrel2634

    February 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    A simple F5 refresh brought it back for me.

  33. 33.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    February 8, 2013 at 4:07 pm

    @catclub:

    Post twice with new nym. Be patient.
    You automatically get moderated as both new and using the same email as ‘another’ poster

    Thanks. We’ll see if this works.

  34. 34.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:08 pm

    Just had lunch with one of the main bloggers at the Orange Satan. She used to be a student of mine.

    Very smart lady.

    What’s the B-J term for bragging about something? There must be one.

  35. 35.

    jl

    February 8, 2013 at 4:10 pm

    @BGinCHI: Student whoring, maybe. I would avoid that term, might produce misunderstandings and get you fired.

  36. 36.

    Bnad

    February 8, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    Using Chrome and was only seeing “Strange Ranger” since yesterday, then cleared my cache (back to the beginning of time) and it worked. But it looks like I need to keep re-clearing my cache in order to see new articles on the BJ front page.

  37. 37.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:11 pm

    @jl: Hmm, that’s definitely not what I was looking for.

    How about “blagging”?

  38. 38.

    EconWatcher

    February 8, 2013 at 4:12 pm

    @Schlemizel:

    Just saw that play last week at the Folger in DC. It was teh awesome. I’m working on memorizing the St. Crispin’s Day speech during my daily train rides.

    It’s amazing how Shakespeare can make you want to stand up and shout when he’s really on a roll, as he is with that speech.

  39. 39.

    Seanly

    February 8, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    No problems with the site using IE 8 (work has proprietary web apps that don’t play well with other browsers or IE 9).

    However, I am looking forward to an angry rant from a rum-soaked Mr. Cole. Something like “snargle, snargle, FO&D if site doesn’t work, snargle, snargle, I’m gonna go pet Lily”

  40. 40.

    Maude

    February 8, 2013 at 4:13 pm

    @BGinCHI:
    #33, commenting.

  41. 41.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    still in the odd but present camp I think. So. Maybe fit for the band of half-siblings and second cousins of varying moods?

  42. 42.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    @EconWatcher: Should I link to an article of mine on HV?

    Wow, I’m really full of myself today….

  43. 43.

    muddy

    February 8, 2013 at 4:14 pm

    I haven’t had the slightest trouble with the site (mac/chrome), and feel a little left out. I won’t be able to talk about the dreadful sitebork episode later. Just like the sleeping Englishmen on St. Crispin’s Day, o woe.

  44. 44.

    max

    February 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    I was having to close the browser (flushing all cookies) and restart to get things to reload, in Chrome, Firefox and IE. However, just now, a close and reload results in the front page now updating correctly.

    I’m thinking the problem was webcaches somewhere along the line not updating.

    max
    [‘Fixxored. Thanks.’]

  45. 45.

    EconWatcher

    February 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    Yes, please. Do you teach?

  46. 46.

    max

    February 8, 2013 at 4:15 pm

    Yep. My name just appeared on the front page.

    max
    [‘Thanks mastermix!’]

  47. 47.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    Just hold down the shift key and refresh the page and it will update correctly.

  48. 48.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    @BGinCHI: Stop being half-full of yourself, Unleash the article of HV! Stride that blast!

  49. 49.

    jl

    February 8, 2013 at 4:17 pm

    @BGinCHI: Sorry, I think ‘____ whoring’ is the conventional formula for any thing you are bragging about or advertising at a family safe blog like BJ (which should clue us all in on that point).

    You will have to pioneer a new term, ‘blagging’ is fine with me.

  50. 50.

    Comrade Mary

    February 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    Aw, fuck. Broken on Chrome again. (Clicked the banner to go back to the home page and got Strange ranger again. Luckily, I think the Next / Previous links inside each post are working.

  51. 51.

    Tonal Crow

    February 8, 2013 at 4:18 pm

    We’ll have fun fun fun now that site-work’s made this blog such a mess.

  52. 52.

    Elizabelle loves typing her info continuously

    February 8, 2013 at 4:19 pm

    When I called up Balloon Juice, I got the Stranger Ranger frontpage and had to scroll through “next post” at the top to get here.

    Woo hoo.

    Access to the blog and nothing to say except: BBS. Off to get car reinspected. New tires.

  53. 53.

    22over7

    February 8, 2013 at 4:20 pm

    Seems a bit fragile in chrome, borked to death on my IE whatever number it is, and forgot my name (snif). But we’ll give this a try.

  54. 54.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    February 8, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    I heard there would be site work, but I haven’t seen any changes. OTOH, I’ve been using IE, which is like being lobotomized and colorblind. I’ll check it on Chrome and Safari when I get home.

  55. 55.

    Mike in NC

    February 8, 2013 at 4:21 pm

    @Schlemizel: Most of our neighbors have the same experience. But after 5 years here I no longer get an annual sinus infection in the Spring.

  56. 56.

    Elizabelle loves typing her info continuously

    February 8, 2013 at 4:22 pm

    And in moderation too.

    The gods may not find my comment worthy of inclusion.

    FWIW: watched Downton Abbey’s episode 5 last night (I think); the Dowager Countess et al at Ethel’s luncheon.

    Many, many hints of times be achanging for the landed gentry.

    Young non-landeds not wanting to go “in to service” anymore. They think they can be bankers or lawyers? The horror.

  57. 57.

    PeakVT

    February 8, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Looks fine on this iPad mini (testing at best buy). This keyboard would drive me nuts, though.

  58. 58.

    PeakVT

    February 8, 2013 at 4:23 pm

    Looks fine on this iPad mini (testing at best buy). This keyboard would drive me nuts, though.

  59. 59.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    @EconWatcher: I’m an English Prof: Shakespeare, etc.

    Here’s a link to the opening but it looks like there isn’t a direct link to Shakespeare Studies out on the web:

    http://www.questia.com/library/1G1-188159141/o-for-a-muse-of-fire-henry-v-and-plotted-self-exculpation

  60. 60.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    February 8, 2013 at 4:26 pm

    Clear Your Browser’s Cache

    Site works fine now in Chrome and FF after clearing the cache.

  61. 61.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:27 pm

    Maybe this is a re-education camp and this is how they separate us.

    It would explain a lot.

  62. 62.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 8, 2013 at 4:29 pm

    @BGinCHI: Hey, I’m an English prof too! Taught Merchant of Venice earlier this semester. What a weird play.

  63. 63.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 8, 2013 at 4:30 pm

    @jl: Why is the name for such things “whoring”? Shouldn’t it be “pimping”? You’re pushing something out into the world to get it some attention.

  64. 64.

    Cassidy

    February 8, 2013 at 4:31 pm

    I think mine is working. Of course, not it will completely go to shit.

  65. 65.

    Comrade Mary

    February 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate: Yeah, this works once. Or maybe twice. Then it stops working. (Chrome, I’m lookin’ at YOU. Et my damn cookies, too.)

    Firefox seems OK for me after a cookie and cache clearance, but not other people.

    Does anyone else get the feeling that the server is rolling the dice on every load to determine our individual TOLERANCE FOR FRUSTRATION scores?

  66. 66.

    Maude

    February 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    @22over7:
    There other sites that Chrome borks.

  67. 67.

    Regnad Kcin

    February 8, 2013 at 4:32 pm

    @Mike in NC: Very sorry to have misread that as “anal sinus infection”

    off to get my head checked

    ETA: no issues w site: MacbookAir 10.8.2 / Chrome or FF or Safari

  68. 68.

    Maude

    February 8, 2013 at 4:33 pm

    @Comrade Mary:
    I bet Tunch has something to do with this.
    No more fat jokes.

  69. 69.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: Why “weird”?

    Here’s how it works:

    A –> B <– P
    /
    /
    Shy

    Each relationship is based on desire and money, expressed as a fraction: desire (or love, or hate)/money (value, debt, interest). This holds for all relationships in the play. Portia is a prize in a contest but even Jessica must bring a fortune (in a casket) to the marriage or it's no go.

    Discuss.

  70. 70.

    Regnad Kcin

    February 8, 2013 at 4:34 pm

    @Maude: some js libraries and Chrome are apparently intent on re-fighting the battle of agincourt

  71. 71.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 4:35 pm

    @BGinCHI: huzzah! That will keep my poor neurons frying for a nice solid bit. So absolutely out of my normal rut. Didn’t even know my epigenetics could be false, so will keep them firmly in line. thanks.

  72. 72.

    jl

    February 8, 2013 at 4:36 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: I am neither aware of, nor responsible for, all BJ internet traditions. I am merely relating my understanding of BJ nomenclature. And devising ways to disown responsibility for my comment, in the fine tradition of Henry the V.

    Shakespeare portrayed Henry the V as an Ahole after he got hisself crowned, amirite? As bad in some ways than his sad ol’ dad. Or not?

  73. 73.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    A –> B <– P
    /
    /
    Shy

    Isn’t that the code that borked this blog?

  74. 74.

    jl

    February 8, 2013 at 4:37 pm

    @BGinCHI: I read the play and come away with the stench of pious Christian hypocrisy in my nostrils. Is that OK?

  75. 75.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    @Baud: Never go in against a Venetian with death on the line.

  76. 76.

    SatanicPanic

    February 8, 2013 at 4:38 pm

    @jl: brogging?

  77. 77.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:39 pm

    @jl: That is very OK. I’d just add a healthy dose of gynophobia and you’re ready to go.

  78. 78.

    gelfling545

    February 8, 2013 at 4:41 pm

    On my macbook with Safari I can see today’s posts, on Chrome only yesterday’s.

  79. 79.

    danimal

    February 8, 2013 at 4:43 pm

    @Seanly: It has been a while since we’ve gotten an epic, drunken rant from our bloghost.

    I think the puppehs have mellowed him, and he lives in fear of His Tunchness.

  80. 80.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 4:44 pm

    Although given I watched The Enemy Within last night as remedial pop culture, I’m now struggling to decide if it’s a Space-based concentrate of the underlying Henriad (whee! new jargon!) or maybe the Tardis is involved and Leo Penn is actually Shakespeare.

  81. 81.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    @scav: If you rearrange the letters of his name, they spell Lone Pen, so I think you’re on to something.

  82. 82.

    mai naem

    February 8, 2013 at 4:47 pm

    I was just about to bitch about you guys bitching and moaning about the site cuz mine was working just fine and then karma or whatevah you call it hit me.

  83. 83.

    Soonergrunt

    February 8, 2013 at 4:48 pm

    I can see the site just fine on IE 9, Firefox 18 and whatever Chrome is part of Android 4.2 running on my phone and my Nexus 7.
    Honestly haven’t had any problems the last few days.

  84. 84.

    Trollhattan

    February 8, 2013 at 4:50 pm

    Test. Cache. Johnny. Prophylactic FYWP.

    There it is–couldn’t comment to the previous post, went straight to moderation.

  85. 85.

    Ultraviolet Thunder

    February 8, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    And I’m out of FYWP Mod Jail. So of course the whole site will now disappear completely.

  86. 86.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 4:51 pm

    I hope the site is finally fixed. I am this close to being productive.

  87. 87.

    JoyfulA

    February 8, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    I could see it before and can’t see it now on Firefox past about 2 p.m. est. I switched to Chrome, and it looks OK.

  88. 88.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    February 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    I’ve been reading this site on a Mac using chrome for the last few days and haven’t noticed any problems. FWIW.

  89. 89.

    mai naem

    February 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    I was listening to Stephanie Miller today. She had a funny email from some woman today who said every gun buyer should be forced to go to the only gun store in each state, have to walk past a gauntlet of gun control nuts, be forced to watch videos of mass shootings, then go through a mental exam, then walk out of the gun store past the said gauntlet of gun control nuts with dead body pics, then return in 72 hours after they are given time to think and make sure they really want that gun, walk past the same gun control folks and then they can buy the gun.

  90. 90.

    gogol's wife

    February 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    If I use Firefox, I keep getting “Strange Ranger” with 37 comments, and I have to wait and click on the title of Anne Laurie’s earlier post on the right side of the blog and then keep clicking to “Next Post.” On Safari, it took me to this post.

    I hate blizzards.

  91. 91.

    Crusty Dem

    February 8, 2013 at 4:53 pm

    I’m just happy they’ve put Michelle Malkin behind bars. Wire fraud? Can’t say I’m surprised.

    http://www.capitolhillseattle.com/2013/02/08/director-alleged-to-have-embezzled-hill-womens-clinic-out-of-existence

  92. 92.

    Trollhattan

    February 8, 2013 at 4:54 pm

    @Baud:

    The Duke of Friday says, “Not on my watch, you don’t.”

  93. 93.

    WereBear

    February 8, 2013 at 4:56 pm

    I just did a roundup on the “Cats are crazed killers” meme that has been going around:

    Are cats responsible for bird depopulation?

    Verdict: NOT GUILTY!

  94. 94.

    freelancer

    February 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    @Crusty Dem:

    Because there’s more than one person named Michelle Malkin living in the States. The odious, raw-nerve Malkin you’re thinking of lives in Colorado.

  95. 95.

    WereBear

    February 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    Clear the cache, folks! It worked for me on Chrome.

    If you are not tech savvy, it probably has not been done since you got the computer. Do it… you will be amazed.

  96. 96.

    Tonal Crow

    February 8, 2013 at 4:57 pm

    @Crusty Dem: I don’t think that’s the Malkin of crazy-con fame.

  97. 97.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    @WereBear:

    Whew. For a while there, I thought there might be something I couldn’t blame Obama for.

  98. 98.

    Trollhattan

    February 8, 2013 at 4:59 pm

    @freelancer:
    Stop killing my buzz, dude/dudette!

    Can’t the countertops of Capitol Hill breathe free?

    “As if” Stalkin’ Malkin would ever set foot in, much less run a not-for-profit health clinic.

  99. 99.

    Villago Delenda Est

    February 8, 2013 at 5:02 pm

    OK, a couple of threads back Baud commented:

    I agree that a lot of people do seem to driven by the suspicion that someone out there is getting something that they don’t deserve, and that that is the cause of all of our problems.

    I agree with this as well. They’re right. There are a great many people out there who are getting something that they don’t deserve.

    Those people are called the 1%.

    This is going on, but those who are loudest about it (the teatards, etc) are failing to identify who the undeserving actually are. They’re not Black, or Hispanic. They’re mostly white, products of Ivy League legacy educations, and have trust funds.

  100. 100.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 5:03 pm

    @BGinCHI: aaahhh.

    seriously though, to totally discombobulate the thread, does thr Henriad include Riii (sic. ok not so serously). Because the two Hals is really a doubling of the Richard/Henry issue (and there’s the Hal/Hotspur doubling too). Shakespeare can really work a fugue on a theme.

  101. 101.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 5:05 pm

    @scav: Henriad is RII, 1 & 2 HIV, HV.

    RIII is the final play in what is usually called “the first tetralogy” (HVI parts 1, 2, 3, then RIII).

  102. 102.

    BillinGlendaleCA

    February 8, 2013 at 5:07 pm

    Now my Name and EMail addy disappeared. Now I’m going to go cut myself, or just go get something pierced(nose, eyebrow?).

  103. 103.

    Trollhattan

    February 8, 2013 at 5:08 pm

    Can we really be this lucky? Mein Gott, the debates….

    But despite that presidential fade-out and close call back home, Bachmann is again being mentioned as a candidate for higher office — this time as a potential challenger to first-term Democratic Sen. Al Franken in 2014. Bachmann has not signaled publicly her interest in such a race, but her advisers do not deny that she might consider it down the road.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/02/08/is_a_franken-bachmann_showdown_on_the_horizon_116953.html

  104. 104.

    liberal

    February 8, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    There are a great many people out there who are getting something that they don’t deserve.
    Those people are called the 1% landowners and other rent collectors.

    Fixt.

  105. 105.

    different-church-lady

    February 8, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    Didn’t fix the problem for me. Aint’ complaining, just reporting.

    Mac, Firefox 12.0

    ETA: well, maybe it did after all — that’s the first time my name and address has auto-filled all day.

  106. 106.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 5:11 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    The strategy apparently is to cause Franken to die from the internal pressure of snark suppression.

  107. 107.

    liberal

    February 8, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    @EconWatcher:
    Yeah. Goddamn, I love that speech.

  108. 108.

    Riley's Enabler

    February 8, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    @Arm The Homeless: PINE SPERM

    I just blew half a coke on my monitor. Thanks!

    (Azaleas are blooming madly here, poor things. Mosquitos will be the size of hippos this spring.)

  109. 109.

    Trollhattan

    February 8, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    @Baud:

    Hah!

    IIRC he was on SNL during the Victoria Jackson era, so that might give him a small window into the tacklebox of crazy that is Michele and company.

  110. 110.

    Comrade Mary

    February 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    OH, COME ON, CHROME!

    Now you’re working perfectly again with no tweaks.

    (Except that you et my credenza again.)

  111. 111.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    @BGinCHI: sorry doubled up my iiis making a pointless Wii joke (which now works even better), thats the Rich I meant. Still, typo lead to elucidation of the next set. I’ve indeed worked my way through all the H6s but damned if I have a clue what’s going on there. But I’ll now think of them as the other Henry/Richard blob rather than a prolonged Henry stutter and the Hunchback.

  112. 112.

    susan

    February 8, 2013 at 5:18 pm

    I’m trying to find people who will sign my “prosecute the criminal bankers” petition. I only need 99,997 more!

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/prosecute-criminals-banking-industry-please-begin-immediately/K0HxVzHb

  113. 113.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 5:20 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    It took me a long time for me to believe that VJ wasn’t trolling the wingnuts. I’ve now convinced myself she is a true believer. If she’s not, she is the best goddamn troll since Andy Kaufman.

  114. 114.

    PJ

    February 8, 2013 at 5:22 pm

    Everyone’s favorite free speech advocate/butterfly unjustly punished for daring to stick it to the man was apparently broken by the authoritarian state, as she apologized to the judge, and he vacated her contempt sentence, and she was freed to complete a sentence of drug treatment: http://gawker.com/5982913/teen-tearfully-apologizes-to-judge-she-flipped-off-judge-agrees-to-drop-contempt-charge-wishes-her-the-best

  115. 115.

    Jay in Oregon

    February 8, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    From the other thread:

    The Twitter hashtag to follow today is #INeedMasculismBecause

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23INeedMasculismBecause

    I don’t know if it started out as serious or as snark, but the tweets are about 50/50.

  116. 116.

    Trollhattan

    February 8, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    @Baud:

    one of the strangest transformations–or coming out parties–I’ve ever witnessed. Maybe not as surprising as Mamet, but a surprise nevertheless.

    No Toonces, nooooo!

  117. 117.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 8, 2013 at 5:25 pm

    @BGinCHI: Fair enough, but what the hell is Launcelot “Jar-Jar” Gobbo doing there, and what purpose is the random cross-dressing slapped onto the whole set of legal issues? I can come up with explanations, but it’s still goofy.

  118. 118.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 5:27 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    LOL. Thanks for the memories. I forget about Toonces. He was ahead of its time. Toonces would have been a star on the cat-friendly Internet.

  119. 119.

    mainmati

    February 8, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    @Comrade Mary: I have a small. credenza at work but the top drawer is broken so you are better off.

  120. 120.

    BGinCHI

    February 8, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: For some great readings of the Gobbo stuff, see Janet Adelman’s recent book on the play.

    The cross dressing has a number of reasons, but the first is that no woman would be allowed to do that in the early modern context. But of course it also allows for the sexual confusion that is important to late in Act 5.

  121. 121.

    different-church-lady

    February 8, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    @susan: I’ll sign it as long as we can get a bit more specific about what laws we’re going to prosecute them on.

  122. 122.

    different-church-lady

    February 8, 2013 at 5:33 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    But despite that presidential fade-out and close call back home, Bachmann is again being mentioned as a candidate for higher office — this time as a potential challenger to first-term Democratic Sen. Al Franken in 2014.

    I’m not sure how the people of Minnesota are going to react to the sight of a woman throwing herself headlong into an industrial grade wood chipper.

  123. 123.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    @FlipYrWhig: But many of the plays seem to have that complete mix of high and low, slapstick and solemn. That whole doorkeeper knock knock joke. I think I’ve heard that explained as pleasing the mixed audience types (blame the groundlings) but I’ve seen it pulled in some early opera too, and I think earlier operas were complete olios of dance, song, recitation, vaguely linked. Just a not unusual thing to do at the time?

  124. 124.

    different-church-lady

    February 8, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Yeah, mistermix, everything seems to be back to normal for my rig. Nice work.

  125. 125.

    Soonergrunt

    February 8, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    @Jay in Oregon: What the fuck is ‘masculism’?

  126. 126.

    Baud

    February 8, 2013 at 5:41 pm

    @Soonergrunt:

    If you have to ask, you ain’t got it.

  127. 127.

    Gravenstone

    February 8, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    Branagh’s take on St. Crispin’s Day

  128. 128.

    Ash Can

    February 8, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    What the fuck is ‘masculism’?

    Maybe masculism is to masculinity as Christianism is to Christianity.

  129. 129.

    Hill Dweller

    February 8, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    @Gravenstone: Saint Crispin’s makes some great shoes.

  130. 130.

    jl

    February 8, 2013 at 6:44 pm

    @scav:

    ” But many of the plays seem to have that complete mix of high and low ”

    That Shakespeare stuff is (at least) ‘two layers deep’! You gotta remember that.

  131. 131.

    scav

    February 8, 2013 at 7:10 pm

    @jl: I can remember that while also remembering he’s also a pragmatic playwright that had to get bums on seats (and on feet in the other area). Not everything had to part of a deeply considered Gesamtkunstwerk.

    Eta: sometimes a clown is just a clown and a cheap joke is a cheap joke. Lots of things can be read from the palm of a hand.

  132. 132.

    muddy

    February 8, 2013 at 7:22 pm

    I took my son to a performance of Macbeth when he was 11. He was horrified and thought it would be awful. I said nothing with sword fights and fart jokes is awful. There were some real belly laughs that night, he was really into it after a few minutes adjusting to the language. Who’d have thought a tragedy was so damn funny?

    The worst is kids reading it out haltingly in turns in HS, I’m glad I knew better before I had that experience.

  133. 133.

    muddy

    February 8, 2013 at 7:25 pm

    And after gloating that I had no siteborking, altho a bit sad that I could not join in on the St. Crispin’s-ish group experience, it acted badly. Now I don’t know whether or not I should be pleased.

  134. 134.

    Rosie Outlook

    February 8, 2013 at 7:56 pm

    All together now: FVCK YOU WORD PRESS!

    I am using an IPhone and having no problems. I gave up trying to read Balloon Juice on a computer. Life’s too short.

  135. 135.

    FlipYrWhig

    February 9, 2013 at 12:16 am

    @BGinCHI: true, but there’s no good reason to have wacky sexual confusion dominating the end of the play in the first place. And Antonio has nothing to do, and Shylock just wanders off into oblivion like Poochie returning to his home planet. Needs some editing, I say. Then maybe this Will Shake-scene will have a future in the theater.

  136. 136.

    Steeplejack

    February 10, 2013 at 3:20 pm

    Hoping to rebuild my cookies here.

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