Sometimes These Things Happen by John Cole| March 11, 20134:21 pm| 101 CommentsThis post is in: Clown ShoesFacebookTweetEmailFail.
True, false, who’s to say? the story is out there and it would be irresponsible not to talk about it.
Are those mouth breathers any worse than the Village? Hell, the Village’s willful misrepresentation of the sequester and it’s effects is far more damning.
Of all the hatecunts, the Dimbarts are the stupidest.
That last line of Krugthulu’s post made me LOL.
But its intertube search tagline is “Global Satirical Newspaper of Record” OF RECORD! That could have fooled anyone.
And for anyone who had to slog through an Econ 101 textbook, these graphs scream authenticity:
“The filing says that Krugman got into credit card trouble in 2004 after racking up $84,000 in a single month on his American Express black card in pursuit of rare Portuguese wines and 19th century English cloth”
“Through his lawyer, Bertil Ohlin, Krugman explains that despite his travails with spending and debt in his personal finances, he stands by his pseudo-Keynesian policies.”
Anyone could have been fooled by that. Even a Woodward.
@BGinCHI: See how easy that was?
Yeah, but the Village’s Potemkin village of a sequester-is-a-bust meme is being shredded to pieces by local news. Fucking local news is showing the big money boyz (and grrrls) what the job of “journalist” really means.
Even the stupid people I know are noticing and grumbling about the GOPers.
And Kthug says he said nothing until it hit some wingnut internet racket pub. So, it’s PK’s fault. Don’t blame the Sons and Daughters of the Holy Breitbart.
Trolling wingnuts. So easy, a caveman could do it.
I’ll give it another six months before Breitbart just up and posts whatever crazy Uncle Harry does in his Facebook forwards about FEMA camps, and the WH dog chief of staff and crap.
As the comments to the Krugman post note, bankruptcy filings are a matter of public record. Thus, any report this rumor (other than one that points and laughs at the rumormongers) is a de facto admission that the “reporter” has no regard for the truth, whatsoever. Not that this will change anyone’s view of the Breitbart Online Mausoleum And Tribute Act, of course.
Now, having failed, they need to take Feces-Flinging 101 all over again. “OK, guys, it’s ‘ready, aim, fire,’ not ‘ready, aim, soil yourselves’.”
Jeez, what a thing to read just when I’m paying credit card bills. When you read about my bankruptcy filing it won’t be fake…
He should have stayed quiet until Scarborough picked it up as part of his anti-keynesian jihad.
‘Course Joe can speculate about Kthug’s BK, but no one can speculate about dead interns in Morning Joe’s congressional office.
Those must be some really nice granite countertops to have gone bankrupt. Seriously though, once it’s out in the wingers world it never goes away. PK will always be bankrupt from now on. We still have people at work who believe we found WMDs in Iraq.
@Sloegin: It’s true. There’s now a plaque in the Hall of Memes, and it’s there forever.
@Smiling Mortician: It felt good, too.
The Moar You Know
@Sloegin: So do I. You gotta wonder how that feature of the human brain came into existence. It can’t be good for survival:
“Uggg, why are you standing by that dried-out pond?”
“There’s water here”
“Ummm, don’t know how to tell you this, Uggg, but the pond went dry a year and a half ago. We’re moving out tomorrow in search of water. Half the tribe has died and we can’t wait anymore.”
“Huh, that’s interesting.”
“No, it’s not, Uggg. It’s a fact. No more water. All gone.”
“Why are you still standing there, Uggg?”
“There’s water here.”
Tell me how these people survive to breeding age. Anybody. I’d love to know.
Given that the right wing creates its own reality, Krugman’s “bankruptcy” will now become an article of faith to go with Obama’s Kenyan birth, and the murder of Vince Foster.
None of them care what the liebrul New York Times has to say.
@geg6: The Obama admin has been going around the Village(hence the whining) and courting local media for months. I think that is partly the reason for their more honest coverage.
The wingnuts, who are utterly detached from anything happening outside the Beltway, are walking into a buzzsaw. The Village has been trying to mitigate any potential damage to Republicans by blaming it on Obama, but I don’t think it will ultimately work.
This. It never changes.
This is new to me. Rightwingers repeat some bs from Fox/teaparty/ wingnut media. I say, I suppose you heard that whopper from Fox, etc. Oh heavens no, we never listen to Fox, etc. Somehow, they independently came up with the same exact spin all by themselves. It’s kind of interesting that they are pretending not to follow rightwing world even though it’s obvious they are.
@ranchandsyrup: I wish PK would have held out for a Scarborough mention too, but Scar is probably more satire-savy than the Breitbart crew.
“the fact that i believed it is evidence that it makes sense”
What’s even funnier about the Daily Currant post is googling the other names it mentions to complete the farce.
Herman (Hyman) Minskey is an economist who theorized about speculative borrowing bubbles. Died 1996.
Bertil Ohlin, Nobel prize winning Swedish economist. Died 1979.
Brilliant sense of irony Daily Currant!
Sure wish the Friends of Hamas would pay me to speak.
@gbear: You’re prolly right. I was just hoping that Joe’s seething hatred of Kthug would cloud his judgment.
@chopper: I can’t believe I missed that one.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Just turned on MSNBC in time to hear Tweety call Paul Ryan “a killer rabbit, if you will”.
I like the detail that the Boston.com or whatever it was./s just piped the story through from a source and is blaming them. Undoubtedly, like most online papers, they spend far more effort, sweat, tears and money on vetting comments than their actual stories.
Does it mean, what I think it means?
DougJ is a friend of Hamas, Krugman is a friend of Hamas, therefore DougJ=Paul Krugman?
@schrodinger’s cat: ZOMG KUNSPIRACY!!
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I can tolerate Tweety when he’s landing the zingers. I guess I can’t help myself, but somebody’s got to do it and if it’s Tweety, then so be it.
Of course, Paul Ryan would so not get the reference, which makes it all the better.
If he’s lighter than wood.
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog? LOOK AT THE BONES!
That’s not quite true. They could simply be incompetent enough not to know that bankruptcies are public records, so that they honestly believe that repeating rumors is the best they can do. I’m willing to believe either theory for why the Breitbrats are doing what they’re doing.
@Roger Moore: Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity. Although with the Breitbrats both is an acceptable answer.
Why won’t he show us the long-form certified certificate his non- bankruptcy?
Boston.com fell for it too. Morons.
As has been said, bankruptcy filings are public records and can easily be accessed. The fact that the so called “reporters” at breitbart didn’t even bother checking is all we need to know. Say what you will about “both sides do it” but I don’t see someone like JC, Doug, Mistermix or any of the other front pagers here make that kind of mistake and they aren’t journalists per se, they are just bloggers. Can you imagine someone like Ezra Klein committing that kind of journalistic malpractice and the fallout that would ensue?
@kc: Scav mentioned that in a comment above and Breitbart mentions boston.com so most of us aren’t morons.
I’m not sure that I necessarily agree with that. Stupidity is probably a better default assumption than malice, but the Breitbrats have enough of a track record that we don’t have to rely on default assumptions. They’ve been malicious enough times that it’s reasonably safe to assume malice, though it’s almost always aided and abetted by stupidity, ignorance, and/or laziness.
And true to form, they posted a classy retraction:
@kc: Boston.com sez that it ain’t their fault. Prolly Obama’s fault, then.
“Error 404: Not Found?”
If only all Breitbart articles read like that.
I meant that the Boston Globe people are morons, not y’all. Though if the shoe fits . . . :D
Not anyone who ever studied international economics. Bertil Ohlin was one of the developers of the Hecksher-Ohlin Theorem, most of which was blown to bits by Krugman’s Nobel-winning work in international.
It’s cute. Too clever by half.
Damn, what a pathetic excuse!
McMegan Alert! Somebody tie DougJ and TomL to the mast, stat.
Also, too, when the hell did she slither over to Daily Beast? Was it before Sully decamped? Anyway, here’s the punchline: she’s “writing” a financial advice column. Her blurb sayeth this:
And she’s saying things like this:
Get it? Blenderella didn’t buy that Thermomix until her retirement was all squared away, and as to kidz being #2….
@Yutsano: Are you kidding? With the Breitbrats, “both” usually IS the answer. Stupid and malicious are not mutually exclusive, but for them, only a way of doing business.
@Trollhattan: She followed Sully from Atlantic. Apparently this will be a running advice series by her.
Earlier this morning I tried to search on Boston.com for the article and couldn’t find it. I looked under the business section and blogs. You could link to it from business insider but it wasn’t that easy to find without the link.
That’s not an excuse and I do think that the front page of the site should have an apology.
@Trollhattan: Yeah–she got there for a couple of months before Sully decided to run his own shop. I think that her arrival was one of the precipitating factors. When you think of how much damage she did to his (and all the other Atlantic writers’) reputations, what the hell else could he do?
Only though self employment could he guarantee that the editor would never again damage his ‘reputation’ by proximity to hers.
Will we get valuable advice about where to pay less for Pink Himalayan Salt and how rebuilt Thermomixes are just as good as new?
Are contributions to Friends of Hamas tax deductible?
It says something about McMegan that she can damage even Sully’s reputation.
Im pretty sure nobody there at the anti-feminist hatec#nt site cares about accuracy/honesty. The “story” is “out”, PK is BK, and always will be.
@Roger Moore: Heh. She tried that route at the Atlantic. If her kitchen videos would have gotten any sort of positive reviews, she’d still be fornicating that particular poultry.
So in this case, “running advice” is an instruction to any unfortunate readers. “Run, she’s hit the ‘send” key!”
Aren’t you in San Diego? WTF is with the local paper ‘o record? This here is some pernicious bullshit.
@Trollhattan: Does that woman understand that there are people who have incomes less than $100K per year? Of the three letters she responded to, one was paying down their house at $50K/year on top of regular living expenses and retirement, one explicitly had a $240K/year income, and one was a couple who had $1 million in assets at age 30. Definitely a representative slice of America.
Maybe the questions from people earning less than that are just incomprehensible to her, so she refused to answer. Or maybe people earning less than $100K are smart enough to know better than to go to her for advice.
@burnspbesq: Sorry, I forgot the snark tag. Of course, using Port and cloth, Ohlin, and Minsky made the joke obvious.
Gin & Tonic
@Face: Is “hatecunt” a new term? I don’t keep up with all the lingo, but I’m seeing that a lot lately. Twice in this thread.
Yes, I’m old, in case it matters. Kids, lawn, &c.
@Trollhattan: Poppa Doug Manchester happened. Media Matters had a good piece on this back in December. Poppa doug wants to recreate San Diego in Zombie Reagan’s image. Luckily his pet mayoral candidate lost or things would be even worse.
Brietbart is a truth laundering operation for the right wing. They take lies, rumors, gossip, obvious satire and cycle it through the rightwing media. When it gets in turn picked up by Politico et al and mentioned by some teabagging congress assholes, it loses some of its taint. Voila! Dirty lies become truth, or truth clean enough, and when it changes hands enough times it becomes accepted as the real article.
Brietbart.com is an essential mechanism to mainstream the rightwing fringe. It’s not going to go out of business due to tarnished credibility.
Grumpy Code Monkey
They are maliciously stupid.
How is this a fail? At least 27% of the population now has proof that Krugman has gone bankrupt.
And there is nothing anyone can do that can possibly change their mind.
And, the more we talk about it, the high that number will go. If you had enough money to fund a series of stories “Did Krugman really go Bankrupt?” we could easily get that number up over 50% in the red states.
So kinda like when Wr0ng Aga1n Cole thought the human with wings flying video was real.
Higgs Boson's Mate
Factual reporting is not going to make Breitbart the Huffpo of wingnuttia, is it?
Let me tell you that it’s a great gig. When they had me speak, I had to cover my own travel and lodging, but I’ll be set as soon as there check for 50,000 Ameroes clears…
@Chris: might as well be error 405: Facts not in evidence
We need a better class of troll around here. The current batch are boring and predictable.
@johnny aquitard: This Krugman story has increased Breitbart’s credibility. It got quoted more than it has in a long time, and a lot of people will take away the idea the Krugman is a bankrupt hypocrite.
Let’s put it this way, there are a lot more people who think Krugman went bankrupt today than there was yesterday.
They are winning.
JC, you forgot the photo that goes with the story:
Maybe she does, but they are not people one wants to be associated with. I’m fairly sure she understands that her maid doesn’t make $100K per year.
“I served with Hamas. I knew Hamas. Jack Hamas was a friend of mine…”
Uggggh. That explains it but wow, SD is a big metro area and deserves a decent paper. Can’t these assholes be satisfied with their GVs and their megayachts and leave important things alone? If ever there were a reason to soak the rich, this is it.
405 is Method Not Allowed. This was absolutely 406 Not Acceptable.
Although to be less humorous the proper code is actually 410 Gone, but nobody actually uses the right codes anyway. I can’t remember the last time I saw something other than 200, 403, 404, or 500.
@Roger Moore: Durfs gotta Durf. It’s literally all he has.
I know you don’t have control over which ads are placed on your site. And I further know you hate complaints about said ads.
But dear lord jesus, for the love of all that is holy, please please do everything in your power to get rid of that fucking “Power Companies Hate This” ad.
It looks like somebody is frantically decorating a strange dildo over and over and over, and it’s kind of giving me a seizure.
She wasn’t really a troll, but I miss TokoLoko. She was far funnier than the cudlips trying to wreck the place today. Even BOB was better than these bozos.
@Trollhattan: Poppa Doug’s politics underlie the real motivation–to get the rest of the development rights for the embarcadero and waterfront. He groomed a young gay republican through the city council and had him run for mayor. It was pretty close. Bob Filner quit his position in Congress in DC to run. Filner even had the Big Dog himself come and campaign. The stakes were high.
Lots of people in SD county subscribe to the LA Times. I used to get the N. County Times until the UT bought it. Most locals “get” that the UT’s editorial page is a pathetic joke.
@taylormattd: You do realise JC doesn’t read his own blog rite?
@Roger Moore: Durf thinks if he keeps criticising the FPers that they’ll shut up and listen to his divine wisdom. Protip: he’s not even an American citizen. That makes me larf even harder at him.
I kinda miss makoto too. She and I had some real tussles but she was at the very least entertaining.
She was at least trying to contribute to the blog rather than derail it. She didn’t always succeed, but at least when she blogstalked a FPer he deserved it.
The Breitbart piece is only the most obvious thing here…what is left of most newspapers is a rag full of ” content” provided by ” vendors,” not actual news reported by, you know, reporters. For The Globe to get all whiny that they never saw it or authorized it, isn’t it time to call bullshlt?
I completely disagree. MC’s entire schtick was based around gloating about how much smarter she thought she was than us, usually by saying very obvious things using words she made up herself and pretending that was a brilliant insight no one else has ever had. She was a libertarian with different mottos.
EDIT – Okay, after further thought, that STILL is more useful than our current trolls. They’re just conversation derailers.
Probably better to amend that when dealing with Breitbartlets: Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity and malice.
really embarassing episode for the boston globe. sheesh.
even more embarassing when you go to read the story that was posted on boston.com and see what a huge axe the writer had to grind. embarassing that there was no one there to filter a story like that. I mean if Krugman really did go bankrupt, and youre the major paper of record for really all of New England… the first story you run about it, shouldn’t be a spittle-flecked hatchet job. Just out and out embarassing lack of professionalism.
furthermore… it just raises troubling concerns about this practice normally. How much false journalism is flying at boston.com that doesn’t delete with high profile celebrities? How much shit has already been fed dumped out by this “vendor”?
Goddamn this is aggravating
They lost Tweety at least. He used to be one of Breitbart’s worst enablers.
Mr Stagger Lee
@The Moar You Know: No natural prey that thins the herd.
tomorrow marks 30 days till the Motor City Meathead misses his big promise to us!
Please feel free to post a link to this countdown clock to remind the nuge he only has a month to make good:
OMG! BOB! Talk about a blast from the past. I had the pie filter working overtime on his postings.
Who would have thought those were the good old days?
Well, Robert Nozick lived in a rent-controlled Cambridge apartment. So, balance requires that one of our guys be a hypocrite too.
And don’t forget the flying credenza. Those were the days for sure.
@Svensker: OMG Michael Gass!! I’m not sure if he qualified as a troll because he was a one and done, but that one thread supplied us with so many memes that I think we still use. A classic, that one is. I wonder if it’s easily searchable.
Once his time is up, can we all act like he’s dead and ignore him?
@Mnemosyne: That never works. Then he pees on the rug and eats all the food, all the while whining about mean libz in the interim.
I like this concept but, if you’ll forgive me, “lie laundering” is perhaps more precise.
Following the Krugman story links I ended up on a John Nolte story at Brietbart.com. His lead paragraph had this little gem of inadvertent but piquant truth:
“Late last week, many of the same elite media members who attempt to falsely link conservatives to every imaginable tragedy (most notably, Sarah Palin),”