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Afternoon Open Thread

by Zandar|  March 19, 20135:11 pm| 72 Comments

This post is in: Bring On The Meteor, DC Press Corpse, Somewhere a Village is Missing its Idiot

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Hard hitting journamalism from the Dee Cee Examiner:

Why no, I can’t possibly imagine why the paper is ceasing daily publication and laying off most of its staff.  Why do you ask?

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    pacem appellant

    March 19, 2013 at 5:13 pm

    OT: Who’d rather be playing SimCity right now instead of reading blogs/(not) working?

  2. 2.

    Zifnab

    March 19, 2013 at 5:14 pm

    @pacem appellant: Depends. Are the servers down?

  3. 3.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 5:15 pm

    A treat for all the 9/11 troofers out dere.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvv-Yib1Xg&feature=youtu.be

  4. 4.

    MikeJ

    March 19, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    @pacem appellant: John Riccitiello?

  5. 5.

    Violet

    March 19, 2013 at 5:17 pm

    That’s some hard-hitting reporting right there. Pretty much sums up our political class. More concerned about he said, she said than doing actual reporting.

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    March 19, 2013 at 5:21 pm

    I saw Django Unchained over the weekend. I’m glad it was the first movie I saw after Lincoln. As a depiction of slavery’s horrors (accurate as far as it goes, so I’ve heard), Django strikes me as an indispensable complement to Lincoln. And Tarantino’s mental attitude is an equally necessary antidote to Spielberg’s self-important high-mindedness.

  7. 7.

    Julia Grey

    March 19, 2013 at 5:23 pm

    Apparently the Cypriot parliament has voted down that great “deal” they were offered by the European central bank.

    Nobody knows what happens next, but at least people’s bank deposits are not going to get an automatic haircut.

  8. 8.

    Julia Grey

    March 19, 2013 at 5:24 pm

    Apparently the Cypriot parliament has voted down that great “deal” they were offered by the European central bank.

    Nobody knows what happens next, but at least people’s bank deposits are not going to get an automatic haircut.

  9. 9.

    Suffern ACE

    March 19, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    @Violet:

    That’s some hard-hitting reporting right there. Pretty much sums up our political class. More concerned about he said, she said than doing actual reporting.

    I think someone should ask Priebus if his balls are indeed tingly on MTP this weekend. Opinions differ on that matter.

  10. 10.

    Josie

    March 19, 2013 at 5:28 pm

    Well, even though it isn’t journalism, I kind of like knowing that one Republican is calling another “numb nuts.” It makes me smile.

  11. 11.

    ranchandsyrup

    March 19, 2013 at 5:29 pm

    This all presumes that Obvious Anagram actually has testicles.

  12. 12.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2013 at 5:31 pm

    @Violet:

    More concerned about he said, she said than doing actual reporting.

    Agreed. We need less stenography and more investigational journalism. Instead of just reporting that Steele called Priebus “numb nuts”, somebody needs to be asking the tough questions. Are his nuts really numb? Does he actually have nuts that might be numb in the first place? Why is nobody looking for these important answers?

  13. 13.

    eric

    March 19, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    @Trollhattan: true genius

  14. 14.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    I think someone should ask Priebus if his balls are indeed tingly on MTP this weekend

    Doesn’t that presuppose one very critical, if teeny detail?

  15. 15.

    The Moar You Know

    March 19, 2013 at 5:34 pm

    This has been the second GOP douche that Malkin has attempted to score publicity points off of in the last two days. Her star has really fallen, hasn’t it?

  16. 16.

    Mandalay

    March 19, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    Ohio’s AG is not messing around about threats arising from the Steubenville rape case:

    “Let me be clear. Threatening a teenage rape victim will not be tolerated,” DeWine said in a statement on the attorney general’s website. “If anyone makes a threat verbally or via the Internet, we will take it seriously, we will find you, and we will arrest you.”

    Good for him.

    I hope that direct threats made on the internet will eventually become like DUI cases: people without self-control will still do it, but they will almost certainly face charges and prosecution if they are caught.

  17. 17.

    pacem appellant

    March 19, 2013 at 5:35 pm

    @Zifnab: They weren’t this morning, at least on the NA West 1 server.

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    March 19, 2013 at 5:36 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    And how does Michael Steele know that Reince Priebus’ nuts are numb? Did Steele actually test their sensitivity to, um, stimulation?

  19. 19.

    Ash Can

    March 19, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    LOL

  20. 20.

    Redshirt

    March 19, 2013 at 5:38 pm

    As we watch traditional media die, and cheer on the death, I start to get a bit uneasy. When the dust settles and all these MSM outlets are gone, will there be anything to take its place? Its much needed place in keeping tabs on the powerful and exposing that which the powerful wish to keep in the dark?

  21. 21.

    pacem appellant

    March 19, 2013 at 5:39 pm

    @MikeJ: He should’ve been forced to play during the launch. Maybe that will be his personal hell. Good riddance to the out-of-touch.

  22. 22.

    lol

    March 19, 2013 at 5:43 pm

    @eric:

    Love how it made all the truthers come out of the woodwork in the comments.

  23. 23.

    mdblanche

    March 19, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    @Redshirt:

    When the dust settles and all these MSM outlets are gone, will there be anything to take its place? Its much needed place in keeping tabs on the powerful and exposing that which the powerful wish to keep in the dark?

    Where have you been for the last decade?

  24. 24.

    ? Martin

    March 19, 2013 at 5:45 pm

    @pacem appellant:

    Electronic Arts announced today that John Riccitiello will step down as chief executive officer and as a member of the Board of Directors effective March 30.

    I guess John Riccitiello has time to play. Between shit earnings and this PR disaster, oh and this other PR disaster

    Major vulnerability in EA’s Origin platform lets hackers overtake PCs

    has proven too much.

  25. 25.

    Redshirt

    March 19, 2013 at 5:48 pm

    @mdblanche: They’re not gone yet. Also, I was on call. It sucked.

  26. 26.

    Woodrowfan

    March 19, 2013 at 5:50 pm

    Good bye. Good riddance. There’s still the Free Bacon and Moonie Times…

  27. 27.

    Just One More Canuck

    March 19, 2013 at 5:51 pm

    @Amir Khalid: it would be irresponsible not to speculate

  28. 28.

    Yutsano

    March 19, 2013 at 5:52 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Danger Will Robinson! That way lie madness.

  29. 29.

    mdblanche

    March 19, 2013 at 5:53 pm

    @Redshirt: I don’t know what can take their place, but even if they survive we still badly need something to supplement them.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    March 19, 2013 at 5:54 pm

    @Redshirt:

    Twitter will fill the void.

  31. 31.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2013 at 5:57 pm

    @Yutsano:
    I can think of several less icky ways of finding out that Priebus’s nuts are numb. For example, maybe Steele heard Reince complaining about it. Or maybe he kicked him there and got no reaction; it’s hard to imagine anyone being in the same room and not wanting to give it a shot. Maybe repeated kicks in the groin are why his nuts are numb.

  32. 32.

    The Moar You Know

    March 19, 2013 at 5:59 pm

    I hope that direct threats made on the internet will eventually become like DUI cases: people without self-control will still do it, but they will almost certainly face charges and prosecution if they are caught.

    @Mandalay: What floors me is that the people making threats are doing so via their Facebook accounts, using their real names.

    I just don’t get that.

    However, my point is that I disagree rather profoundly with you; while making threats is appalling and unacceptable, the infrastructure needed to successfully prosecute such cases would lead to the end of anonymity on the internet.

    And for better or worse I think we need that anonymity.

  33. 33.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 6:00 pm

    Lord/FSM, deliver us from thinkbelief-tank experts.

    SACRAMENTO — Tapping California’s oil-rich Monterey shale using hydraulic fracturing could boost the state’s economic activity by as much as 14.3% and create hundreds of thousands of jobs, according to a new USC study.

    As detailed in Money & Co. blog, the development of the 1,750-square-mile formation in Central California could have a transformative effect on the Golden State’s economy, with the state potentially reaping oil-related tax revenue of $4.5 billion in 2015 and $24.6 billion by 2020.

    “Based on the experience of other states, not only would state unemployment fall, but significant migration of properly skilled workers into California would occur,” said the report, which was conducted by USC and the Communications Institute, a Los Angeles think tank, and funded in part by a grant from the Western States Petroleum Assn.

    http://www.latimes.com/news/local/political/la-me-pc-fracking-could-boost-economic-activity-in-california-by-14-study-says-20130315,0,1515971.story

    Also, too, I know plenty of “properly skilled” California workers right now, thanks.

  34. 34.

    burnspbesq

    March 19, 2013 at 6:03 pm

    @Mandalay:

    A Republican elected official who knows his job and is willing to do it? I’m actually old enough to remember when that wasn’t big news.

  35. 35.

    kindness

    March 19, 2013 at 6:06 pm

    @Trollhattan: Don’t worry. California and the Monterrey area in particular have no water to be fracking. Seriously, they don’t. Fracking takes a ton of water and there isn’t any over there unless they want to use sea water and they don’t.

  36. 36.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2013 at 6:07 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    and funded in part by a grant from the Western States Petroleum Assn.

    So it’s a totally unbiased and uninterested source.

  37. 37.

    burnspbesq

    March 19, 2013 at 6:09 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    However, my point is that I disagree rather profoundly with you; while making threats is appalling and unacceptable, the infrastructure needed to successfully prosecute such cases would lead to the end of anonymity on the internet.

    Too fucking bad. There are some things that are more important than anonymity on the Internet, and being able to successfully prosecute criminals who use the Internet to commit crimes is one of those things.

    With all due respect, your priorities are backwards.

  38. 38.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 19, 2013 at 6:10 pm

    @burnspbesq: DeWine is a longtime hack who will revert to type very soon.

  39. 39.

    burnspbesq

    March 19, 2013 at 6:12 pm

    @kindness:

    Wait, what? Are you actually suggesting that providing drinking water to San Francisco is more important than providing water for fracking?

    What are you, some kinda pinko hippie wierdo?

  40. 40.

    gelfling545

    March 19, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    The IUPU campus was given the all clear about an hour ago & we talked to our family member who is on staff there. Blood pressure now approaching normal again.

  41. 41.

    burnspbesq

    March 19, 2013 at 6:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    That’s probably correct, but he’s doing the right thing right now in an important matter. I’ll deal with his reversion to mean when it happens.

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 19, 2013 at 6:15 pm

    @gelfling545: Quoi?

  43. 43.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 6:19 pm

    @kindness:

    It’s a head-scratcher where they plan to get it, but I always remember the saying, “Water flows uphill to money.” If a farmergiant ag company wants to resell “their” water at a high price instead of raising crops, then that’s what they’ll do.

  44. 44.

    Mandalay

    March 19, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    while making threats is appalling and unacceptable, the infrastructure needed to successfully prosecute such cases would lead to the end of anonymity on the internet.

    “would lead to the end of anonymity” => That ship sailed a long time ago.

  45. 45.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2013 at 6:25 pm

    @Trollhattan:
    Or they could set up a desalination plant if they really needed to. If their drilling is successful, it’s not like they’ll be short of power to run it with.

  46. 46.

    Baud

    March 19, 2013 at 6:32 pm

    @Mandalay:

    “would lead to the end of anonymity” => That ship sailed a long time ago.

    You’re sure right about that, Tim.

  47. 47.

    gelfling545

    March 19, 2013 at 6:33 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: 2 reports of “person with gun”.

  48. 48.

    gogol's wife

    March 19, 2013 at 6:35 pm

    OT, so can I say how much I can’t stand Alessandra Stanley? Today’s brilliant piece basically says, “Oh, thank God Lena Dunham didn’t take her clothes off this week, because she’s not model-thin so she’s not supposed to take her clothes off, and how can men actually find her attractive.” It’s clothed in mealy-mouthed “feminism,” but that’s the basic message:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/arts/television/lena-dunham-gives-girls-season-a-romantic-finale-on-hbo.html?_r=0

    I’ve never seen Lena Dunham’s show, but the way Stanley describes her you’d think she weighed 300 pounds. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    I’m still disgusted with Stanley for gratuitously comparing “Downton Abbey” to “Fifty Shades of Grey.” Don’t ask what the logic was; it was nonexistent.

  49. 49.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 19, 2013 at 6:36 pm

    @gelfling545: All was resolved with no one hurt? Scary though.

  50. 50.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 6:42 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Out of curiosity I looked up what water conveyance might be in the neighborhood, and came up with the Hollister Conduit.

    http://www.usbr.gov/projects/Project.jsp?proj_Name=San%20Felipe%20Division%20Project

    And farther south, the SWP Coastal Branch.

    http://www.water.ca.gov/recreation/brochures/pdf/Coastal_Branch_Brochure.pdf

    Surely, some over-watered customer can spare a few thousand AF for a struggling oil exploration company? Think of the children.

  51. 51.

    Higgs Boson's Mate

    March 19, 2013 at 6:54 pm

    @Trollhattan:

    Just because the San Andreas fault runs through the area is no reason not to start fracking immediately.

  52. 52.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 6:57 pm

    @Higgs Boson’s Mate:

    Why, it will usher in the dawn of a new era of more and smaller, gentler earthquakes–we will bring seismic democracy to the entire region!

  53. 53.

    Redshirt

    March 19, 2013 at 7:01 pm

    @Trollhattan: I hate to say it, but maybe there’s something to this? By releasing geologic pressure in small doses you avoid a big snap?

  54. 54.

    Trollhattan

    March 19, 2013 at 7:09 pm

    @Redshirt:

    Have worked with geos and hydro-geos, but never seismologists so don’t have much insight. The geos think you might be able to trigger fault slippage but question whether you could control the response to any extent.

    California is experimenting with a Japan-style quake early warning system, with early success. All it does, though, is give you some seconds of warning one is about to hit (presuming you’re not on top of the event, then good luck to you!)

    Hardly any tornadoes here, though.

  55. 55.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2013 at 7:14 pm

    @Redshirt:
    Sadly not. It turns out that most of the energy on a big fault is released by the occasional maximum scale earthquakes rather than by the more frequent smaller ones. So increasing the frequency of small quakes is unlikely to do much to defuse the larger ones unless it’s a truly massive increase. And since there’s already a fair amount of tension on the San Andreas, there’s the real worry that the increase in smaller quakes would actually trigger a full scale event. If you want to experiment on earthquake faults, please do it in your own state, not mine.

  56. 56.

    bootsy

    March 19, 2013 at 7:33 pm

    As horrid as the Post is, I must correct anyone who doesn’t realize that the “Examiner” (and their hit-trolling website, which occasionally lets fact-based reporters post there for free) is the same thing as the Koch’s Reason and other billionaire-criminal rags… It’s the sole creation of a similar shit-stain named Philip Anschutz. I figured it was always designed to lose money, but was presented as if it was a daily paper to lend credence to its stories.

  57. 57.

    Maude

    March 19, 2013 at 7:36 pm

    @Roger Moore:
    Hasn’t there been small earthquakes from fracking?

  58. 58.

    bootsy

    March 19, 2013 at 7:39 pm

    @bootsy: Also, when I worked for a minor conservative ‘publicity firm’ (actually lobbyists) in DC, they would boast about their causes being on the front page of the Examiner…

    Of course, said firm actually wrote the stories for the ‘journalists’. I have to imagine this is what it’s like at the Post, too, at least for Krauthammer and his ilk.

  59. 59.

    Southern Beale

    March 19, 2013 at 7:42 pm

    The Washington Examiner is shuttering its doors? The one owned by right-wing Christian Sugar Daddy Phillip Anschutz? Playing the world’s tiniest violin…

  60. 60.

    Suffern ACE

    March 19, 2013 at 7:52 pm

    @Southern Beale: yep. I’d forgotten about that lovely guy. Whenever you go to see a movie at a regal cinema, you’re contributing to some god awful cause and keeping the weekly standard afloat.

  61. 61.

    Roger Moore

    March 19, 2013 at 7:53 pm

    @Maude:

    Hasn’t there been small earthquakes from fracking?

    There have been earthquakes in areas where fracking is taking place that otherwise haven’t had any, but proving causality is always tough. I still think that people who want to play with that stuff should avoid doing it near me.

  62. 62.

    pacem appellant

    March 19, 2013 at 8:02 pm

    @? Martin: I got an unsolicited offer from EA to work there. It was two days after the Sim City release and still hadn’t completely been able to build a city yet. I replied “no thank you”.

  63. 63.

    danielx

    March 19, 2013 at 8:04 pm

    Now if only the Washington Times would go the same way…

  64. 64.

    Left Coast Tom

    March 19, 2013 at 8:11 pm

    @burnspbesq: The water concern isn’t in an area that affects SF’s supply (the Tuolumne River), its on the Salinas River, which affects the Monterey County wine appellation.

    Water for growing wine grapes is definitely more important than fracking.

  65. 65.

    Mike in NC

    March 19, 2013 at 8:14 pm

    Michael Steele as head of the RNC was pure grifter, merely looking for a paycheck, and never seemed to actually believe any of the crap he said on TV. On the other hand, Reince Priebus is a true believer who must think that Mitt Romney simply wasn’t a real conservative. That can only be a good thing.

  66. 66.

    Burnspbesq

    March 19, 2013 at 9:20 pm

    @Left Coast Tom:

    Appreciate the info, but you may want to think about recalibrating your snarkometer.

  67. 67.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    March 19, 2013 at 10:54 pm

    @Baud:

    I was thinking that the walls of toilet stalls in public restrooms would be the next go-to place for their former readers-to-be.

  68. 68.

    AxelFoley

    March 19, 2013 at 11:00 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    @Roger Moore:
    And how does Michael Steele know that Reince Priebus’ nuts are numb? Did Steele actually test their sensitivity to, um, stimulation?

    It would be irresponsible not to ask.

  69. 69.

    Starlit

    March 19, 2013 at 11:45 pm

    @Violet: Is this part of that “online journalism” output that’s in every city now? The outfit that said it was part of the SF Examiner? ‘Cause if it is, it seems kind of lame.

  70. 70.

    Another Halocene Human

    March 20, 2013 at 11:08 am

    @Amir Khalid: It’s accurate in the brutality, psychology, and immorality, although some of the details are fictitious or anachronistic.

    The ending is also problematic, but maybe somebody will follow up with a better movie.

    Like many viewers, I felt that sarcasm and black humor and revulsion approached the subject better than the kind of ‘serious’ takes that unconsciously romanticize slavery while attempting to condemn it.

    Though there really needs to be a good F. Douglass biopic.

  71. 71.

    Another Halocene Human

    March 20, 2013 at 11:11 am

    @Southern Beale: I wondered why everyone was dissing the Examiner but realized that I was confusing it with the Washington Monthly. Please don’t go away, Washington Monthly.

    @danielx: I thought the Moonies sold their controlling interest and it was barely hanging on.

  72. 72.

    Another Halocene Human

    March 20, 2013 at 11:17 am

    @gogol’s wife: I’ve never seen Lena Dunham’s show, but the way Stanley describes her you’d think she weighed 300 pounds. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    Gabourey Sidibe can take her clothes off any time. Don’t mind the view.

    I wonder if that ID-iotic column ran in the same section with an article about an exhibit in the Metropolitan Museum of Art. Shall we install Ashcroft curtains over the 18th century European collections, lest little minds be corrupted with the notion that normal female fat deposition patterns are, er, normative?

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