This pretty much seems on purpose.
We report, you decide “ehhh, close the hell enough.”
Open thread.
Afternoon Open Thread
by Zandar| 80 Comments
This post is in: Open Threads, Blatant Liars and the Lies They Tell, Our Failed Media Experiment, Somewhere a Village is Missing its Idiot
Arclite
I blame John Stewart. If you can’t punch a Jewish hippie, who can ya punch?
Culture of Truth
BENGHAZI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Xecky Gilchrist
Breaking: correlation and causation are EXACTLY THE SAME THING, say a bunch of dentists and engineers who are pretty much the same thing as scientists.
The Moar You Know
One of these things is not like the other.
ETA: Oh, OF COURSE this is work of notable fact checker Greta Van Susteren, known worldwide for her commitment to accuracy in reporting. And copyediting.
Shaky
embassy, twitter feed — whatevs. Oh, BTW, BENGHAZIII!
scav
Taking over the White House (for a period), Taking over the White (period), Same confusuion.
Ash Can
Isn’t it a very real possibility that they don’t actually know the difference?
Mnemosyne
Some bad news for fans of good writing about bad movies: Roger Ebert is battling cancer again.
feebog
Reading comprehension, how the fuck does it work?
Comrade Jake
How do you politely tell someone they’re an idiot in such a way as to minimize the chance they’ll ever totally fuck something up again? I’m asking for a friend.
PeakVT
Totally missed out on this non-issue. I had to dig for some background. More.
Villago Delenda Est
Oh, fuck the Islamist asshole Egyptian leader sideways with a rusty halberd.
I’m so sick of these hurt fee fees religious assholes.
scav
Also breaking, WV has its own sheriff-shooting, we’ll hope Approximating Pronouncements managed closer to the mark this time. via Guard
Ridnik Chrome
To whoever it was who posted the query about cooking dry beans in one of the threads below, the trick is to put the beans in cold water, bring the water to a boil on the stove, let it boil for about two minutes, and then turn the heat off and let the beans soak for 2-4 hours. After that they should cook in an hour or less.
The Moar You Know
@Villago Delenda Est: Seconded. There seem to be a lot of assholes who need the halberd treatment recently.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@Comrade Jake: Generally, when I need to convey something like that, I tell them about how I screwed up, and how I don’t want them to repeat the same mistake.
Amir Khalid
BBC reports the death of novelist and screenwriter Ruth Prawer Jhabvala at 85.
Arclite
Good news: CT will pass comprehensive gun control in the wake of Sandy Hook.
scav
Oh fun, the pope’s causing flutters again. Pope Francis reminds Catholics of ‘fundamental role of women’
wait for it
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@scav: Shit!
scav
@Belafon (formerly anonevent): on several fronts no less!
Amir Khalid
I Googled it, because I had trouble believing a journalist at Susteren’s level could get it that badly wrong. And it turns out she could, and did. Oy.
Litlebritdifrnt
@scav:
If only he’d have been armed … oh wait.
catclub
@Comrade Jake: ” minimize the chance they’ll ever totally fuck something up again?”
Only solution that comes to mind is killing them. It probably already has. Good luck to your friend.
Calouste
In a culture where progression in the journalistic profession is based on merit, this would be close to a career-ending mistake.
Joel
Greta Van Susteren is yet another terrible thing OJ Simpson brought upon humanity.
Hill Dweller
Sec. Hagel and President Obama are giving back part of their salaries in a show of solidarity with the government employees being furloughed.
catclub
@Ridnik Chrome: Anybody remember “Home in your Pack”, a backpacking book of the early 70’s? He would soak beans in the morning and carry them all day, when they would be ready to cook.
So this is not quite progress.
GregB
Greta is suffering from the mind rot that happens when you soak in a fetid pool stinking racism, sexism and propaganda for too long.
She should opt for a brain lift next time.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@Calouste:
Headline: Journalism is dead
Story: Journalism is deadline driven, and pressure to publish as quickly as possible can lead to…
Wag
@scav:
I’m liking the new Pope more and more.
JPL
@Ridnik Chrome: A neighbor soaks her beans in cold water and red wine. They are delicious….
JPL
The Twitter feed has been saved btw.
geg6
@Villago Delenda Est:
And the misogynist child rapers in Rome and the bigoted money changers of the prosperity mega churches and the barely closeted KKKers of the Southern Baptists and…well, pretty much anyone in any sort of power position in any church or religion that exists or has ever existed in this world. Add those and I think you really have something here that I could sign onto.
Calouste
@scav:
Even more interesting, he seems to suggest that the Bible should be seen as a book written by humans influenced by the mores of their times, rather than the divine and infallible word of God. Heck knows where that is going to end up, but cooperation with the fundigelicals is going to be less smooth, that’s for sure.
catclub
@Wag: Me too.
Although the distinction between ‘In the Bible’ and ‘In the Gospels’ makes not much sense to me. For the moment, I will blame the translator.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@JPL:
Won’t somebody think of the twits?
Oh the inanity!
Trollhattan
Hungry? Here’s a gallery of unfortunate cereals.
http://www.smosh.com/smosh-pit/articles/6-most-unappealing-kids-cereal
Just wait ’til you get to the last one–the stuff of nightmares.
catclub
@geg6: “any sort of power position in any church or religion that exists or has ever existed in this world.”
So the Dalai Lama and Martin Luther King are on your shit list. Oh, well.
scav
@Calouste: yep. multiple fronts. Cautiously hopeful but there’s symbolic vapourware, there’s concrete practice and there’s dragging the entrenched bureaucracy.
drkrick
Five words and a buffer overflow. Perfectly understandable mistake.
JPL
@geg6: How are Otis and Koda?
MomSense
@scav:
Hey now, that is some good stuff.
ThatLeftTurnInABQ
@catclub:
Aside from the Old vs New Testament distinction, there’s the additional issue that Paul didn’t have much use for assertive women and it shows in the content of his letters, so best to keep it just to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Like any good Jesuit framing his argument, you’ll note that Pope Francis is careful to make statments picking out the evidentiary ground most favorable to his interpretation and excluding everything else.
MomSense
@GregB:
It could be all the botox.
Mnemosyne
@Calouste:
That’s always been the position of the Catholic Church and one of the sticking points between them and Protestants — traditionally, the RCC said that you needed a priest to properly interpret the Bible for you and Martin Luther and other Protestants said that people should be able to read and interpret it for themselves.
It looks like Pope Francis is belatedly reminding the Church that the person honored with the first sight of Jesus after his resurrection was not one of the “official” 12 apostles, but Mary Magdalen.
Anya
@Hill Dweller: I am sure this is after all the members of the party of personal responsibility, agreed to give back portion of their salaries so that they can share the sacrifice of the sequestration with every other person that’s effected by the cuts they enacted.
MattR
FWIW, the Twitter feed has been restored.
geg6
@scav:
OMG, that is one of the bugfuck looniest places in all of WV. And that is really saying something. This is a county in which Obama only got 8% of Ds in ’08 and I think he lost to a convict in ’12 for the D primary. I see Mingo County mentioned and all I can think of moonshiners.
Roger Moore
@Calouste:
Catholics have never accepted the fundamentalist idea that everyone can and should read and interpret the Bible for themselves. They have always maintained that it’s something that is best left to experts (i.e. the Church Fathers), so it’s a much less radical position for the Pope to take than it would be for a Pentacostal minister.
geg6
@catclub:
All religion is on my shit list. The one thing Marx was absolutely correct about is what religion is. Are there good people among the religious? Yes. But there are no good religions.
scav
@MattR: and the incident plus Stewart’s comment on Egypt (and Faux) is all over the news rather than a minor url on an obscure tweetfeed. Judge the hands as played. mmmmm.
gelfling545
@scav: But they did not shoot the deputy?
geg6
@JPL:
They are wonderful. Well, maybe not Otis so much. He’s gotten much more unsteady on his feet and lethargic the last few days. Don’t know if he’s come down with something or if it’s just a progression of the hip and disc problems he’s had for a couple of years now.
But they are getting along just great. No real fights (just some disgruntled growling and grumbling now and then). When Otis fell down last night and couldn’t get up and went into a panic, Koda was so sweet! She laid down beside him and kept bumping him with her nose. It was so cute!
Amir Khalid
A collision of sports and politics: During his playing days, Paolo di Canio always attacked up the right-hand touchline. He was also known for being a Mussolini fascist. Now he’s the new manager at Sunderland FC. But is he still an offensive right-winger?
Jebediah
@Trollhattan:
OK, that last one… multiple professionals signed off on that? Someone thought kids would be tugging Mommy’s arm saying “I want THAT?”
Cheeses.
gelfling545
@catclub: The the point of view in the gospels, especially the 3 synoptics, is quite distinct from other portions of the Bible.
lojasmo
@Comrade Jake:
Dunno. If you find out, let me know. I’ve got a whole lot of that to do at work.
lojasmo
@geg6:
Haven’t you heard? It’s not rape if they’re too young to give consent.
Rex Everything
Excellent post in The New Inquiry.
“With all the attacks on his leadership from the professional left, it’s all too easy to forget that Barack Obama is by far the most liberal president in American history….”
lojasmo
@geg6:
Buddhism? Not a religion?
scav
@lojasmo: Buddism more of a mixed bag than appeciated, for example (quick and easy link) Sōhei
Maude
@geg6:
#49
The Sheriff was cleaning up the drug trade. He had parked his car where he has lunch when he was murdered.
Officers help up white sheets to keep the crime scene from being viewed. The suspect was shot by law enforcement and is in the hospital.
I find this incredibly sad.
flukebucket
@lojasmo:
Also being unconscious gives a free license to do whatever. They may have not said yes but they did not say no either.
Mnemosyne
@Maude:
I wonder if this is part of the string of murders being attributed to the Aryan Brotherhood right now. But don’t call them terrorists, ’cause they’re not Muslims. Just good ol’ boys waging a terror campaign, don’t’cha know.
ETA: If the drug trade he was cleaning up was crystal meth, odds are high that he was caught up in the ongoing murder spree by the AB.
Maude
@Mnemosyne:
I don’t know who killed him and I don’t know enough about what was going on in Mingo country.
I agree with you about the Texas shootings that terrorism is at the root of it. If they find that it is a white supremacist group, that fits terrorism.
The sheriff was going to lunch. How awful that he was killed.
geg6
@lojasmo:
I’m not sure of your question. Did I say it wasn’t a religion? Or are you trying to say it is not one? Whatever, it is still a religion as most understand the word to mean. And still just another opium of the masses. None of them are meant to enlighten you; they are all meant to control you. I am not, personally, interested in being controlled by anyone or anything but me.
geg6
@Maude:
Well, yesterday’s moonshiners are today’s meth dealers. If anyone would be perfectly comfortable with the dangerous job of cooking up meth, it would be the people who have been making moonshine, another very dangerous brew to cook up, for generations.
Doesn’t surprise me a bit. And it wouldn’t surprise if the AB was involved, considering that Mingo County is white trash central.
lojasmo
@geg6:
Sorry. I meant to say: DO you dislike buddhism along with all the other religious institutions. There is some question as to whether buddhism is “religion” per se. As an agnostic, I am not terribly interested in why some say this.
Jebediah
@geg6:
I’m sorry Otis is having troubles. Otto is starting to have some similar stuff.
It really is sweet when pups look out for each other! Last year Otto went temporarily deaf, and Juno went on guard duty – I have some pictures of the eighty-pound Otto laying down all relaxed at Starbucks with the ten-pound Juno sitting at attention next to him. Now that his hearing is back, she has gone off guard duty – when we are at starbucks she is back to looking for other dogs to play with or using her cuteness to try and scam treats from passers-by.
Morzer
@Amir Khalid:
Greta Van Susteren was desperately eager to be Sarah Palin’s bestest little Village buddy when the Grifterette was still relevant. I think we can all see rather clearly why they were natural soul-mates after this latest sad episode.
Honus
@geg6: Mingo was where Sid Hatfield was sheriff. He was shot, too, but in McDowell County on the steps pf the courthouse.
Trollhattan
@geg6:
A suspect is in custody, named (swear to bog) Tennis Melvin Maynard.
Jebediah
@Jebediah:
Well, if you say you have pictures, then make with the pictures already!
Here’s one and here’s another.
And here is Otto’s face.
Jebediah
@Jebediah:
Is anyone around to un-moderate me? It’s just links to pics…
Central Planning
@Roger Moore:
So I wonder why it’s the same people who feel a priest should interpret the bible are the same ones who think they know constitutional law and everything about the 2nd amendment.
Mnemosyne
@Jebediah:
I love Otto and Juno. It cracks me up how the little tiny dog is so protective of the big giant one.
Cluttered Mind
Sometimes I think if Obama were to give a press conference where he said something like “I am in control of the situation, and together with our allies we will be able to put a stop to the terrorists trying to kill all of us by blowing up the White House. The people of this country are safe”, Sean Hannity would be on the air that night showing a clip of Obama saying “I am-trying to kill all-White-people”
Mnemosyne
@Central Planning:
If you mean the RCC, they don’t. As far as I know, they continue to be strong supporters of gun control.
If you’re wondering why individual Catholics think that way, let me introduce you to a term: “cafeteria Catholics.” They’re the ones who pick and choose which of the church’s teachings they’re going to follow. It’s usually been applied to liberal Catholics, but we liberal Catholics can’t help noticing that the people calling us “cafeteria Catholics” are themselves defying the Vatican by supporting the death penalty and the Iraq War despite the Vatican’s opposition to both.
Jebediah
@Mnemosyne:
Yeah, she just adores her big brother!
Although, to be fair to Otto, most of the time he is protecting her – and, like an overprotective parent, he sometimes puts the kibosh on her fun times. She wants to play with every other dog she sees and he doesn’t always let her…
ETA: You should meet her in person. She is a hoot!